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This thread is for cleaning up pages that violate the No Lewdness, No Prudishness policy.

Do not use this thread for reporting pages that need to be cut for violating The Content Policy. Report pages that appear too lewd or gushy to have on the wiki using the "Report Page" button on the sidebar, with the checkbox saying "The page may violate the Content Policy" checked. That will create a thread on the Content Violation Discussions subforum. The thread will be opened by a mod if the report is valid, and if it's deemed necessary, the page will be cleaned according to the Content Policy. (The list of pages that were deemed problematic can be found on The Content Policy's page.)

No Lewdness:

"Lewdness" is more than just being about something sexual or potentially sexual. Here are some signs of lewd writing:

  1. Personal opinions on hotness. Examples should stand on their own without the introduction of YMMV material. Adding your own thoughts and feelings on an example is an opinion, same as calling an example good or bad. Don't do it. Don't try and extend your feelings to a larger group of fans either, e.g. "...and fangirls everywhere rejoiced". You're not fooling anyone.
  2. Overly detailed examples. The example doesn't need to be an exact sensory account of the event. Too much of that and you end up sounding like you're writing porn. When in doubt, drop a few adjectives.
  3. Unrelated fanservice mentions. If the hot bits aren't related to the example, they don't belong in the example.
  4. Pornographic writing. If you're writing porn, it should be somewhere other than the wiki. Keep it Family Friendly.
  5. Titillation links. Tell, don't show. We don't need screen shots to illustrate NSFW fanservice. If a reader is really curious, they can go look it up on Google. (See also Weblinks Are Not Examples.)
  6. Pedo gushing. We don't need to describe children sexually. This should be cut immediately. We're not interested in hosting pedophilia fantasies. Period. If a work contains children having sex, even if portrayed negatively, report it as a potential violation of The Content Policy using the "Report Page" button in the sidebar.
  7. Talking about actors instead of characters. An actor is not the character they play. When you're writing an example about a work, refer to the character, not the actor. This applies to non-sexual references, but too often it's tropers writing about how they find certain actors hot. That doesn't fit in character examples.
  8. Thinking a page with a Not Safe for Work subject is license to be lewd. Even when we discuss porn, we are about just stating the facts.
  9. Fanfic Recs for underage sex. We will not host any recommendation for fics that have explicit sex involving people apparently or actually younger than 16. Period. We categorically do not recommend fics with sex in which at least one participant:
This applies even if all parties are underage.

No Prudishness:

  1. Don't cutlist or gut pages just because they're about sexual topics. Sex exists. It's used in media a lot. You'll just need to cope with that fact. Relationships, fanservice, and sexual activity all fall into their own tropes as a result.
  2. Don't be a Bluenose Bowdlerizer. We're not looking to censor all sex off the wiki. If the sex and sexuality is an honest part of the work and relevant to the example, it belongs there.
  3. The wiki is not rated G. We aren't sanitizing the wiki for small children. Sex and sexuality are part of media and we aren't going to ignore them. This wiki is Family Friendly, not Unsupervised Small Child Friendly. This isn't an excuse to make work pages dirtier than the work itself, as the above No Lewdness section makes clear, but neither is it an excuse to make those pages cleaner than the work itself.

For further explanations, please read this thread

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 6th 2024 at 3:54:01 AM

Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
He/Him
#1001: Aug 12th 2022 at 10:24:56 PM

Re Septimus' post: would it make sense to start a cleanup thread for Loli?

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1002: Aug 12th 2022 at 11:35:06 PM

We can just search for the word and remove them.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#1003: Aug 12th 2022 at 11:43:19 PM

[up] How would you do so in a convenient way? It's not a wiki word to my knowledge, so you can't use the Related page to hunt down wicks that mention "loli".

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1004: Aug 12th 2022 at 11:45:21 PM

I meant using the search bar.

And I just found out we can only search for titles.

Edited by Delibirda on Aug 12th 2022 at 8:46:40 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#1006: Aug 21st 2022 at 8:47:12 PM

Characters.Made In Abyss had is review closed on keep/clean.

  • Innocent Fanservice Girl: Since she's a child, this characteristic is mainly used to embarrass Reg rather than for fanservice, but otherwise she follows the usual trappings of this trope. Deconstructed to some extent—she also demonstrates total obliviousness to Reg's discomfort with her examining and probing his body while he was unconscious.
  • Godiva Hair: In the anime, whenever Riko goes topless (such as being suspended naked from the ceiling as a punishment), her hair will cover her chest.
  • Butt-Monkey: Very rarely does anything ever go right for his dignity. He's been placed in several humiliating scenarios, most prominently in regards to other characters observing or attempting to observe his penis. It happens so frequently that it practically becomes a Running Gag.
Is there a problem with these if applied to 12-yos (the first one smells more like natter and could simply be placed at Please Put Some Clothes On) and is there's anything else on work or characters pages?

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Tonwen HoMM Fan from Axeoth Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
HoMM Fan
#1007: Aug 21st 2022 at 9:01:37 PM

The Innocent Fanservice Girl is actually correct use (because the trope is a mess and I'm finishing a wick check on it, the description is all over the place and fanservice isn't actually a required part of the trope despite being dead center in the name.)

The other two... well I think they're also correct, but that's got more to do with the work itself being creepy rather than the troper writing the examples out.

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Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#1008: Aug 26th 2022 at 12:37:21 AM

On Recap.Star Trek Enterprise S 02 E 011 Precious Cargo, the example for Purple Is Powerful reads thusly:

Kaitaama (a princess/diplomat) wears a purple gown, which doesn't survive the episode unscathed.

I think the mention of the clothing damage violates the "unrelated fanservice mentions" part of No Lewdness, No Prudishness.

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Acebrock He/Him from So-Cal Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: My elf kissing days are over
He/Him
#1009: Aug 26th 2022 at 12:39:32 AM

I don't think that example has enough context, regardless.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#1011: Aug 26th 2022 at 4:44:06 PM

So do I comment it out and remove the mention of the clothing damage?

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MisterToodleoo That guy who stays for the closing credits. Since: Jul, 2018 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
That guy who stays for the closing credits.
#1012: Sep 4th 2022 at 8:49:11 AM

The Horrible Live-Action Films paragraph on Snakes on a Train features the following sentence: “Not even the few minutes of topless women in the middle are enough to save it.” Should that be cut?

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Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#1013: Sep 4th 2022 at 8:54:06 AM

Don't see a particular problem with it, just a snarky complaint typical for Horrible/.

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mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#1014: Sep 4th 2022 at 9:05:05 AM

It's not even explicit. Fanservice is one thing that can make a movie enjoyable for some so the entry just notes that it also failed at that.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1015: Sep 6th 2022 at 11:19:31 AM

Found this while dewicking a cut The Human Centipede fanwork page. It's from this page.


Root Her!, an utterly insane Jurassic Park fanfic that revolves around an extra named "Joffrey" (apparently named after the actor who played him) getting raped to death and eaten by a female velociraptor while Muldoon watches and masturbates. It would normally be horrifying were it not for the fact that the author was obviously having a blast trying to think of the most ludicrous Purple Prose and unusual euphemisms imaginable to refer to what's going on; the act of Muldoon jerking off is referred to as him "energetically pumping his purple shotgun", the raptor is described as a "carrion-scented Aphrodite", Joffrey gets sprayed with "putrid velociraptor love Tabasco", the word "velocigina" is used at one point... it just goes on and on in a carousel of WTF-ery. Read the Topless Robot MST-ing of it here.
  • The worst thing about this? The author actually seems to be a competent writer.

Edited by Delibirda on Sep 6th 2022 at 8:20:58 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Lots of coffee
#1016: Sep 6th 2022 at 11:20:40 AM

We probably shouldn't allow any porn on SBIG if only because it would bloat the page to ridiculous length (similar to why the fanworks page for SBIH was cut).

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 6th 2022 at 2:20:48 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1017: Sep 6th 2022 at 11:26:35 AM

Agreed, that just attracts gushing about porn.

Optimism is a duty.
MonaNaito Since: Jun, 2011
#1018: Sep 6th 2022 at 4:39:20 PM

[up][up] Agreed.

(Jophery C. Brown (his character in Jurassic Park was The Danza) was a legendary stuntman whose career spanned over 400 films/TV shows.)

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#1019: Sep 9th 2022 at 3:47:00 PM

I found this on Breast Expansion:

  • Bruce Almighty tries this on his girlfriend almost as soon as he got the powers of God, despite the fact that the girlfriend was played by Jennifer Aniston (in real life a 36C, according to those who claim to know).

Can someone rewrite this? It's basically just gushing about an actress' cup size, and is otherwise way too low context.

worldwidewoomy I wanna be a cowboy, baby from the bottom of a can of vanilla Coke (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
I wanna be a cowboy, baby
#1020: Sep 9th 2022 at 3:52:43 PM

just trimming off everything related to the actress could work. here’s my attempt:

Bruce Almighty: Almost immediately after receiving God-like powers from God himself, Bruce attempts to invoke this on his girlfriend.

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ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#1021: Sep 9th 2022 at 3:58:17 PM

[up]that's a ZCE. invoke what? trope names aren't self explanatory, remember.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#1022: Sep 9th 2022 at 4:00:44 PM

No need to be coy, just say he tried to make her breasts larger. (The OG example was also a ZCE for the record)

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worldwidewoomy I wanna be a cowboy, baby from the bottom of a can of vanilla Coke (Plucky Ensign) Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
I wanna be a cowboy, baby
#1023: Sep 9th 2022 at 5:01:29 PM

whoops. lemme try again:

Almost immediately after receiving God-like powers from God himself, Bruce attempts to make his girlfriend’s breasts bigger.

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ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
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