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Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

EarthTraveler from Undisclosed Location Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: In denial
#10351: Jan 24th 2023 at 4:26:48 AM

Proposal for Kissing the Ground:

Jonas: Ah... good to be home. (...) Nothing against Mexico, but I swear I kissed the ground when we got back.
Daniel: It's true. ...It was weird.
lonelygirl15, "Playing Doctor"

R3Ked uwu'd too hard Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
uwu'd too hard
#10352: Jan 24th 2023 at 10:45:06 AM

For UsefulNotes.Toledo Ohio:

"Toledo, Ohio! Stay a while! There's a Burger King down the road."

Also [up][tup]

Edited by R3Ked on Jan 25th 2023 at 10:26:01 AM

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#10354: Jan 24th 2023 at 9:36:20 PM

The page quote for Brooding Boy, Gentle Girl doesn't mention genders at all. Even the attribution gives no info because Mako is a gender-neutral name.

isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#10355: Jan 25th 2023 at 5:48:52 AM

A few years ago, I added this quote to Violin Scam.

Hawkeye: What's that, a new watch?
B.J.: Yeah. Got it off a patient. Twenty bucks! Goes for $150.
Hawkeye: The patient had to send the money home, right?
B.J.: How'd you know?
Hawkeye: His kid outgrew his tonsils and needs a set of new ones? The cat needs a "whiskerectomy?"
B.J.: I got taken?
Hawkeye: We gotta do something about that apple-pie-and-hot-dog face.

I felt it reflected the scam aspect as BJ is scammed by a patient. It was removed today claiming it isn't.

Thoughts?

Edited by isoycrazy on Jan 25th 2023 at 8:50:28 AM

R3Ked uwu'd too hard Since: Mar, 2020 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
uwu'd too hard
#10356: Jan 25th 2023 at 10:26:36 AM

I put the Toledo quote in.

Khoshekh6 Since: May, 2022
Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#10358: Jan 25th 2023 at 7:14:50 PM

Violin Scam has two con artists working together, but this looks like one person conning a naive guy who thought his $20 was going towards some good.

isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#10359: Jan 26th 2023 at 2:42:11 AM

Those are typical versions. I recall in the the Discworld series, Moist vonLipwig would run these scams solo with the fake ring version.

And even if there is only one conman in this grift against BJ, does it take away from the type of scam which this one reflects? Had there been two men involved, his words after the fact would make them a better fit?

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#10360: Jan 26th 2023 at 2:51:07 AM

The quote page for https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Anime/CreamyMamiTheMagicAngel has the last part of the theme song first in unromanized Japanese and then in English. I dont think this is kosher.

I posted this before but I post it again so it wont get buried.

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isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#10361: Jan 26th 2023 at 3:39:26 AM

For the Ancient Keeper, reflecting the page's image of the Grail Knight from Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade I would suggest his conversation with Indy about his long time waiting.

Indiana Jones: Who are you?
Grail Knight: The last of three brothers who swore an oath to find the Grail and to guard it.
Indiana Jones: That was seven hundred years ago.
Grail Knight: A long time to wait.

ShinyCottonCandy Industrious Incisors from Sinnoh (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Industrious Incisors
#10362: Jan 26th 2023 at 4:08:24 AM

[up]It’s generally preferred not to have the pic and quote from the same source, actually. Not a rigid rule, but will likely get replaced quickly.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#10364: Jan 26th 2023 at 6:09:20 PM

Back in September RWBYraikou888 changed the quote on Thomas & Friends with no edit reason, from one of the classic songs:

"It's Thomas The Tank Engine,
Hip, hip, hip, hip, hooray,
Chugga-Chugga, Chug Chug,
Chuff, Chuff, Chuff,
He rides along the way,
And when you hear that whistle,
It can only be one train,
Our favorite little engine,
Thomas is his name."

to the HIT era theme song:

They're two, they're four, they're six, they're eight,
shunting trucks and hauling freight
Red, and green, and brown, and blue,
they're the Really Useful Crew
All with different roles to play,
'round Tidmouth Sheds or far away
Down the hills and 'round the bends,
Thomas and his friends

I personally prefer Thomas’s Anthem as I find it more iconic and memorable to most fans and the general public, and the ERC is from one of a few Audience Alienating Eras (even if I grew up with it).

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Jan 26th 2023 at 9:10:19 AM

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#10365: Jan 27th 2023 at 3:49:17 AM

The quote on Dramatic Drop sounds more like a threat than actually describing the trope. None of the alternatives on the subpage are any good. Cut?

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
TVRulezAgain Since: Sep, 2011
#10367: Jan 27th 2023 at 3:15:03 PM

I was going through QuoteSource.The Bible to make sure it was up-to-date and I noticed a couple of quotes are on multiple pages.

Jeremiah 31:15 is on both Death Wail and One-Woman Wail

Proverbs 16:18 is on both Pride and Pride Before a Fall.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 is on both History Repeats and The Oldest Ones in the Book.

Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#10368: Jan 28th 2023 at 9:37:33 AM

So, per the Real Life Maintenance thread, the quote on Female Misogynist (a trope marked NRLEP for being "Too Controversial") should be cut to keep the thing about tropes marked "Too Controversial" to prevent edit wars over who is or isn't an example, or simply name-call or shame people consistent.

Just checking here just to be safe.

Victor of HGS S320 | "There's rosemary, that's for remembrance. Pray you, love, remember."
HeartOfStone Since: Feb, 2022
#10369: Jan 28th 2023 at 6:30:59 PM

The current quote for Violence is the Only Option isn't terrible, but I think it could be better.

"I don't even call it violence when it's in self defense; I call it intelligence."

I don't think this quote quite captures the trope. It's a quote advocating violence, even if it's only advocating it in a context of self-defense. The trope isn't that violence is the best option or the right option or the most intelligent option, but the only option. It's implicit that characters subject to the trope would really rather avoid violence, including violence in self-defense. Therefore I don't think a quote advocating violence is ideal.

I think a better quote would be something that tries to capture a character's slow, sinking dread as they realize they absolutely have no choice but violence, and it's something they really do not want to do, even in self-defense. I think this quote from Disco Elysium would be a better choice:

The Detective: As the leader of this group — reconsider your actions. This does not need to end in bloodshed.
Mercenary Leader: You're right. But you see...
He pauses and smiles
Mercenary Leader: I want it to end in bloodshed.

Edited by HeartOfStone on Jan 28th 2023 at 6:40:40 AM

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#10370: Jan 29th 2023 at 9:27:02 AM

[up][up]We're in favor of cutting that quote, yes.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#10371: Jan 29th 2023 at 9:27:58 AM

Romantic Plot Tumor has a quotes page but no quote. Looking through the page these are my personal favorites for it:

"Pearl Harbor is a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours, about how on Dec. 7, 1941, the Japanese staged a surprise attack on an American love triangle. Its centerpiece is 40 minutes of redundant special effects, surrounded by a love story of stunning banality."
Roger Ebert, May 25, 2001

"How many folks complain about the The Marx Brothers movies that have all that bullshit romance filler in the movies? Romance and story filler about characters THAT NOBODY IN THE AUDIENCE CARES ABOUT. This is pure executive thinking. Who goes to a Marx Bros. movie to watch Zeppo and his ilk? Every second of the "story" makes you twitch around in your seat. Today we have huge budget animated features with nothing but Zeppos in them, and no Grouchos."

"The trademark sense of isolation is another point the game misses like a champ, when you are given a spunky female sidekick. This is another peculiarly American habit that seems to always go unchallenged: why does a love interest subplot have to be shoehorned into everything? Imagine if there was some kind of parallel universe where every game and movie, regardless of genre, was required to incorporate at least one line dancing competition. We'd think they were all raving lunatics! And yet here's us forcing in an out-of-place, cheesy romance scene that's more agonizingly painful to watch than any of the actual horror the game is supposed to be about."

I think the Pearl Harbor one is the best personally. Any opinions on which to use?

Edited by Bullman on Jan 29th 2023 at 11:29:01 AM

Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#10372: Jan 29th 2023 at 2:34:54 PM

[up] I think the third quote fits the trope the best, though it's a bit long. Can we cut the first sentence? (I think the Roger Ebert is the funniest one, but doesn't fit the trope as well, b/c the romance isn't a "tumor" in Pearl Harbor; it's the main plot.)


[up][up][up] @ Heart Of Stone: I'm confused how the new quote fixes the problem you raise. The quote you recommend has the same issue as the Malcolm X quote: the speaker favors violence rather than being forced into it.

Edited by ShaiPa on Jan 29th 2023 at 4:40:03 AM

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#10373: Jan 29th 2023 at 2:40:37 PM

[up] The Detective is the one the trope applies to, not the Mercenary Leader. Maybe a follow-up line from the former might help clarify that.

HeartOfStone Since: Feb, 2022
#10374: Jan 29th 2023 at 2:43:24 PM

[up] Hmmm. Maybe it's not as clear as I thought, being familiar with the story and the context. The Player Character (The Detective) is the one who wants to avoid violence and is being threatened by someone who is going to force him into a fight.

ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#10375: Jan 29th 2023 at 2:50:13 PM

[up] Yeah, it comes off as the Detective still wants to avoid violence, but the Mercenary is urging him on. But I think your initial analysis is right: both quote treat violence as the preferred option rather than the only option.


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