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Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

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Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#10101: Nov 27th 2022 at 10:54:22 PM

[up][tup] to the suggested quote.

Edited by Twiddler on Nov 27th 2022 at 10:54:31 AM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#10102: Nov 27th 2022 at 11:06:14 PM

Do Villain Pedigree and Continuity Creep have effectively the same quote? Also, I'm not sure either demonstrate their ideas.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#10103: Nov 28th 2022 at 8:08:46 AM

It is OK to have a quote by Adolf Hiter on the page for Written by the Winners?

New theme music also a box
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#10105: Nov 29th 2022 at 6:32:39 AM

The page quote for Dirty Old Monk only has context for the trope with the accreditation. I think this one from the quote page is better. Thoughts?

My vow of poverty has made me rich, my vow of obedience has made me a lord. My vow of chastity? Ah...
Flavor Text for the Abbot, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: Career Compendium

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#10107: Nov 29th 2022 at 7:54:24 AM

Any other comments?

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
antenna_ears from California Since: Apr, 2020 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#10108: Nov 29th 2022 at 8:58:52 AM

[up][up][up] [tup] New quote is more interesting to me.

Still need a little more consensus on my suggestion for Weapon-Based Characterization:

"Weapon choice, it is so personal, non? You pick a gun and it tells me who you are."
Chamber, Valorant

Edited by antenna_ears on Nov 29th 2022 at 8:59:13 AM

Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#10109: Nov 29th 2022 at 9:00:03 AM

I like it Switched out the Dirty Old Monk quote

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#10110: Nov 29th 2022 at 9:11:13 AM

Reposting this from the last page since it seems to have been missed:

Alrighty, I came here before for one Better Call Saul page, now I'm here with another - specifically, it's Nightmare Fuel page and it's Awesome Moments page. For NF, how's this one from Lalo Salamanca sound?

"<You know what I was thinking about this morning? The smell of burning leather and horsehair stuffing. Do you remember? Hotel Tulipan. You were so polite to that guy. And he turns his back on you? Makes that big deal to show he's not scared... You took your time with him. And his wife listening from the side. That asshole was so proud of his beautiful Spanish, his books, his antiques. But when it burned, it all smelled like shit. I never told you this, but... I went back inside. I went through the flames, the smoke. It was so hot the rubber on my shoes melted a little. Yes, I know it was very stupid, but... I'm sentimental. I wanted a souvenir.>"

Meanwhile, for Awesome, I'm torn between two:

Lars Lindholm: You - you are - you are the worst lawyer, the worst lawyer ever!
Jimmy McGill: Hey! I just talked you down from a death sentence to six months' probation. I'm the best lawyer ever.

Or, Nacho Varga's last words:

"And you know what else, Hector? I put you in that chair. Oh yeah, your heart meds? I switched them for sugar pills. You were dead and buried and I had to watch this asshole bring you back. So when you are sitting in your shitty nursing home and you're sucking down on your Jell-O night after night for the rest of your life, you think of me, you twisted fuck."

Thoughts for any of them?

MinisterOfSinister From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye! from In the Hall of the Mountain King Since: Jan, 2014 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
From 'Ell's 'eart Oi stab at ye!
#10111: Nov 29th 2022 at 9:25:07 AM

[up] That NF quote looks fine. How about the first one for Awesome? It's more demonstrable to anyone who doesn't know much, if anything, about the show. (I would be one of those.)

Edited by MinisterOfSinister on Nov 29th 2022 at 5:27:46 PM

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#10112: Nov 29th 2022 at 3:53:57 PM

From over the page:

Should the quote on Creator Backlash be moved to the in-universe version Old Shame?

I agree. It would be better on Old Shame.

How about these from the Creator Backlash quotes page (which needs a massive clean-up):

"Then all of a sudden, the album's called Cherry Pie, the record's called Cherry Pie, I'm doing cherry-pie-eating contests, the single's "Cherry Pie", right? If I'm lying, I'm dying. And my legacy's 'Cherry Pie', everything about me is "Cherry Pie", I'm the "Cherry Pie guy"... I could shoot myself in the [censored] head for writing that song."
Warrant lead singer Jani Lane

"To this day, no one hates it more than me."
David Fincher on AlienĀ³, his feature directorial debut

"If I had the time and a sledgehammer, I would track down every copy of that special and smash it."

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#10113: Nov 29th 2022 at 5:16:02 PM

[up]I think the first one is the clearest. The second and third, while more succinct, doesn't really show that the quoted is the creator of the work, and requires additional information outside the quote itself to even tell us what the work being backlashed against is.

ETA: Looking through the Quotes/ subpage, I think this is also good:

"Ah, yes, I wrote the 'Purple Cow,'
I'm Sorry, now, I wrote it;
But I can tell you, Anyhow
I'll Kill you if you Quote it!"
Gelett Burgess, Confession: and a Portrait Too, Upon a Background that I Rue

Edited by Adept on Nov 29th 2022 at 8:20:46 PM

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#10114: Nov 30th 2022 at 3:20:46 AM

Yeah, I saw that one, but I skipped over it because I'm not sure it's clear to people who don't know who Burgess was that it's definitely real rather than in-universe. Plus, it rests on people being familiar with the "Purple Cow" poem to understand that this quote is laid out and structured to mock the original poem.

So, I was wondering if it had a potential "Fan Myopia" issue associated with it, which is why I didn't suggest it. But, if other people think it does work, then I've got no problem with it.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
he/him
#10115: Nov 30th 2022 at 3:26:37 PM

Literature.Solomon Kane currently has this:

"He never sought to analyze his motives and he never wavered, once his mind was made up. Though he always acted on impulse, he firmly believed that all his actions were governed by cold and logical reasonings. He was a man born out of his time — a strange blending of Puritan and Cavalier, with a touch of the ancient philosopher, and more than a touch of the pagan, though the last assertion would have shocked him unspeakably. An atavist of the days of blind chivalry he was, a knight errant in the somber clothes of the fanatic. A hunger in his soul drove him on and on, an urge to right all wrongs, protect all weaker things, avenge all crimes against right and justice. Wayward and restless as the wind, he was consistent in only one respect — he was true to his ideals of justice and right. Such was Solomon Kane."
Robert E. Howard, "Moon of Skulls"

That feels a bit much? I'm wondering whether to trim it or cut it completely and replace. If we trim it, how about:

"He was a man born out of his time — a strange blending of Puritan and Cavalier, with a touch of the ancient philosopher, and more than a touch of the pagan, though the last assertion would have shocked him unspeakably. An atavist of the days of blind chivalry he was, a knight errant in the somber clothes of the fanatic. A hunger in his soul drove him on and on, an urge to right all wrongs, protect all weaker things, avenge all crimes against right and justice."
Robert E. Howard, "Moon of Skulls"

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#10116: Nov 30th 2022 at 6:45:41 PM

I don't have a problem with that.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#10117: Nov 30th 2022 at 7:15:37 PM

Sorry to double-post. Chess with Death has both accuracy and formatting problems.

Death looked long and hard at the board. The abbot waited to see what long-term, devious strategies were being evolved. Then his opponent tapped a piece with a bony finger. Remind me again, he said, how the little horse-shaped ones move.

The above is how it appears. I believe the formatting problems are being caused by the use of the AC code to capitalise what Death is saying. Also, the original quote never directly refers to Death, so the actual quote should look like this:

The opponent looked long and hard at the board.
The abbot waited to see what long-term, devious strategies were being evolved. Then his opponent tapped a piece with a bony finger.
REMIND ME AGAIN, he said, HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE.

We could change the first sentence to "[Death] looked long and hard at the board." if "The opponent" doesn't make it clear the opponent is Death. That's what the current quote is doing, but it's failed to clarify that the reference to Death there is a substitution of the original quote.

I'm not sure what to suggest about the AC formatting, beyond checking whether we're okay with the odd formatting, or whether we should use ordinary capitals.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 30th 2022 at 7:28:15 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#10118: Nov 30th 2022 at 9:24:09 PM

I like the Purple Cow quote for Creator Backlash; I think it's clear on its own, and knowing that the meter emulates the poem is a bonus.

See-Thru Specs came up in Trope Talk and I noticed its page quote doesn't actually demonstrate the trope (glasses that give the wearer True Sight). One possible replacement:

"Have you got truth glasses?! They're not allowed on this show!"

Edited by Noaqiyeum on Nov 30th 2022 at 5:30:05 PM

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#10119: Nov 30th 2022 at 10:05:40 PM

Company Cross References has a pothole and is entirely reliant on it and a note to explain the quote's relevance.

Edited by Karxrida on Nov 30th 2022 at 10:05:52 AM

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#10120: Dec 1st 2022 at 10:13:40 AM

[up] I'm not too fond of that quote, for the reasons you gave. I'm okay with just cutting it, since there's no quotes page to draw a replacement from.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#10122: Dec 3rd 2022 at 1:09:15 PM

[up][up][up] yes agree! I've actually considered bringing that quote up a few times to recommend cutting it.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#10123: Dec 4th 2022 at 4:40:10 AM

Okay, I've changed the Old Shame and Creator Backlash quotes. I've moved the old quote from CB to OS and moved the Purple Cow poem from the quotes page to the CB main page. I also agree with cutting the Company Cross References quote.

Is there any feedback on the Chess with Death formatting?

Edited by Wyldchyld on Dec 4th 2022 at 4:42:01 AM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#10124: Dec 4th 2022 at 3:55:36 PM

Succession Crisis has an overly long top page quote.

You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#10125: Dec 4th 2022 at 4:25:51 PM

The Narrator doesn't add anything, I don't think - the verse is clear enough.

Any thoughts on my post about See-Thru Specs?

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable

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