General Page Quote Discussion:

Real After All should be fine cut down to the last two lines. And with the excessive potholes removed, of course.

She Cleans Up Nicely has a weird quote that seems to be talking more about a staircase than anything else. Some good replacements on the quotes tab. This is my favorite (with or without the last line):

Trimmed Real After All and linked here in the edit reason.

Ignore this, I misread the quote

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 29th 2021 at 8:45:41 AM

Can I get a second opinion on the current quote for The Three Faces of Adam? I feel it's a bit too long and blocky for the main page.

Perhaps just shorten it to, "a man in his twenties brags about what he has put himself into, a man in his forties brags about what he has put into himself, and a man in his sixties brags about what he has left behind"?

That, or replace it with the one on the quotes subpage:

Speaking of overly long quotes, I Coulda Been a Contender! is also at least a paragraph long. Unfortunately it doesn't have a quotes page from which to look for alternatives. Any ideas on how to trim it down?

Edited by Adept on Aug 31st 2021 at 3:40:04 PM

Narm.Literature currently has two page quotes:

I personally like the Oscar Wilde quote better, but I'd appreciate more feedback.

I’d say just use the last part of the quote after “You don’t understand!”

Use the Wilde quote.

That's a bit vague though, since it doesn't explain what he used to be a contender for.

Reptilian Conspiracy and Snake People have the exact same quote. It illustrates Reptilian Conspiracy much better.

Unfortunately, neither have a Quotes page, and I don't have any ideas. For now, can I just cut it off of Snake People?

Just cut from the latter.

Would this make a good page quote for Role-Ending Misdemeanor, or is it too dicey?

Bit too soon, I'd say. If it were an in-universe quote it would be perfect.

I really don't like the quote on Baleful Polymorph. It's a weird song quote that doesn't really say anything about the trope. The quotes page has plenty of alternatives.

Foe Romance Subtext's quote was changed (seemingly unilaterally) a few years ago.

Former:

Current:

I prefer the former.

Yeah, the Spider-Man one is better. (Although the Zeroth Law example is pretty funny.)

The Harry Potter one is excellent. Big improvement on the current one.

Re: I Coulda Been a Contender!, I generally don't like using the Trope Namer as the quote because, y'know, we just quoted it already. But one option would be to cut that speech down to this part that sets out the context:

Edited by johnnye on Sep 3rd 2021 at 12:04:46 PM

Evolutionary Stasis and Jungle Jazz have the same quote. Personally, I think it fits better for Jungle Jazz, as at the very least rhyme and syllabic meter are apparent, but I don't know if it's that good for either.

In context it has nothing to do with Evolutionary Stasis anyway, so cut it.

Looks good.

Simba: è nato un re has a blue-text-ridden quote from a reviewer.

With the original page quote for Chivalrous Pervert being removed, May I suggest this (from the pages quote section)?

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Sep 8th 2021 at 3:43:34 AM

The quote for Troubling Unchildlike Behavior is about losing your virginity at the age of 12, which is unconstitutional to the trope because:

1.) The trope goes on to state that teenagers (implicating those as young as 13 since an age specification isn't given of the teen range) having sex, let alone any other mature behavior, isn't this trope because it's the norm in real life for them to do those things. Well, I know age ranges have bizarre cut-off points for what's considered acceptable behavior and what's not at certain times, but really, what difference is one year going to make? Because you'll be a "teenager" next year? Well that's just nonsense; the word "teenager"—which isn't even a century old yet—means nothing other than having the consistency of the "teen" suffix at the end of your age for the next seven years; "adolescent", the real denotation of a person going through puberty, is the more meaningful alternative, and most 12-year-olds definitely do qualify as adolescents in that regard. 13 isn't even the age of consent around half the globe!

2.) Speaking of the AOC, there are some countries which set it at a minimum of 12 provided the older party doesn't succeed a specified age and isn't exploiting the inexperience of the younger party.

3.) Most 12-year-olds, especially girls, have already hit puberty and have reproductive bodies, making their desire to experiment with their peers understandable.

4.) I haven't watched Red Dwarf, the series the quote source is from, but for those who are unsure of the context, the quote example could come off as very insensitive if the girl in question was raped and her virginity loss was thus beyond her control.

Edited by TVGuy2001 on Sep 7th 2021 at 1:07:21 AM

Twelve year old girls having full on sex is seen as disturbing and antithetical to childhood in the context of the quote and I think that's what truly matters here. I'm also not really comfortable removing removing on the basis that a 12 year old girl having sex is, like, the norm, when it isn't, at least not in most Western society. (And when people say "teens having sex" they usually mean high schoolers anyway. 12 year olds having full on penetrative sex is rarely encouraged in at least fiction.)

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 7th 2021 at 7:29:58 AM

Yeah, a twelve year old losing their virginity absolutely qualifies as Troubling Unchildlike Behaviour

^^ Even when the 12-year-olds are using contraceptives? It's important to acknowledge that at age 12 most children are learning about safe sex through sex education at their school, so while they aren't encouraged to it, teachers recommend at least using birth control if they're going to break the law and engage in intercourse.

Edited by TVGuy2001 on Sep 7th 2021 at 10:13:53 AM