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The Grand and Unified Appearance Trope Clean Up (now on ThighHighBoots):

Currently on the table: Thigh-High Boots

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

edited 8th Apr '14 9:23:55 PM by Madrugada

 1 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 1:37:37 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk

Currently on the table: Thigh-High Boots

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

edited 8th Apr '14 9:23:55 PM by Madrugada

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 2 lu 127, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 1:39:41 PM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Edited to split up the first post for pinning.


This thread is replacing the current Eye Colour Clean-Up TRS as it's becoming clear that the issue is not confined to eye colours.


Common Issues

Bad Names

Frequently this sort of trope will be named after the bit of appearance it's troping, but leave out the meaning of the characteristic. Just having blond hair isn't a trope, but despite the name, Hair of Gold isn't just about having blond hair. It's about blond hair used to illustrate a certain personality type. We will be changing the names of such tropes in order to help with that.

Zero Context Examples

Appearance tropes are the most likely tropes to have no context associated with them. All Zero Context Examples are bad and are not allowed on wiki pages but they are a special sort of evil when it comes to appearance tropes as they further the idea that the appearance is the trope and not the meaning behind it.

All Zero Context Examples should be commented out on pages when you find them with the following message left on the top of the page:

%% %% Zero Context Example entries are NOT allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them. %%

Shoehorning

Everyone wants to apply as many tropes as possible to their favourite characters. As such people tend to apply tropes to characters even when they don't really fit just so they have a longer trope list. Appearance tropes are especially prone to this. If you have a chance, go through the wicks of an appearance trope and check for misuse. If not, just remove the misuse as you find it.


The Tropes:

This list will grow as we work:

Tropes In Progress

Ongoing Trope Watchlist

Please cut any Zero-Context Example you see for any of these tropes.


Crowners:

We have a lot of tropes to cover and only room for one crowner at a time at the end of the thread. As such we'll have a larger list of crowners here as well. I will try to make sure that all crowners get a chance to be pinned.

Hair of Gold:

Shiny Midnight Black:

Power Blonde:

Show The Forehead:

edited 11th Apr '14 2:14:39 PM by shimaspawn

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 3 Septimus Heap, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 1:56:13 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Is this thread going to be a mega-TRS thread or a super-thread? Sounds like the former to me.

  • Adds lens*

 4 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 2:00:45 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
It's going to be sort of a cross between a TRS megathread and a large scale maintenance effort. Either way it's a large scale clean up of multiple pages.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 5 Septimus Heap, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 2:08:37 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
This reminds me that Characters.Septimus Heap has some Zero Context Stuff - particularly eye colour ones - that needs fixing - will do asap.

Seeking for Light
Should Icy Blue Eyes be on the ongoing watchlist, as it's in the same vein as the other blue eye tropes?

edited 3rd Dec '12 2:18:33 PM by Nocturna

 7 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 2:56:56 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yes it should. Thanks.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 8 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 3:10:36 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
All right, the two next tropes on my agenda are Purple Eyes and Hair of Gold. Both of these are in desperate need of renames and clean up as they're both massively misused for just the trait when they have something deeper behind them.

  • Purple Eyes: This trope is used to indicate that a character is rare, unique, or special in some way. If purple eyes are just something common in the setting, i.e. things like My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, they should not be listed as part of this trope.
  • Hair of Gold: This is about blond characters being a blend young, innocent, sweet, charming, chaste, friendly, and noble. Not just any blond.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 9 Septimus Heap, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 3:15:53 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Purple Eyes could use a rename to something akin to Purple Eyes Of Uniqueness (placeholder), while Hair Of God fits within your previous proposal of Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold. And the wick and example cleaning while we are at it.

 10 Madrugada, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 3:39:08 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Changing Hair of Gold To Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold (custom displayed as "Hair Of Gold; Heart Of Gold") would be an excellent move in my opinion.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
 11 tdgoodrich 1, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 4:30:18 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Son, You Gotta Take It On The Chin
I'm behind this idea. With the lowered TRS cap, the less time we waste with appearance tropes, the more time we can spend on other issues.

While we're at it we should probably throw the Bob Haircut page and its (probable) future splits (Ascetic Bob Haircut, Sci-Fi Bob Haircut '20s Bob Haircut) onto the list.

edited 3rd Dec '12 4:34:22 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Seeking for Light
Also support Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold.

 13 Deboss, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 5:23:01 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'd point out that a lot of Anime actually doesn't use the majority of the hair colors tropes. Most of them just slap whatever color they want in there, with a few exceptions (ie:Phenotype Stereotype and The Ojou (I think? The "idealized noble woman" trope for Japan that's tall and has knee to ankle length black hair). There's also works that are exceptions (Inuyasha).

Also support Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold.

edited 3rd Dec '12 5:23:30 PM by Deboss

 14 Troacctid, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 5:50:34 PM from California
Thoughts on Power Blonde?
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 15 Deboss, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 6:02:19 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Feels like "Aversion of [list of blonde tropes] so we can apply a trope". Specifically, both the Blonde Bimbo (or Blonde Ditz) and Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold.

edited 3rd Dec '12 6:02:34 PM by Deboss

 16 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 6:10:54 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yeah, it looks like attempting to have some place to shoehorn people into.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 17 Madrugada, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 6:45:57 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Power Blonde? Not A Trope, at least as written now..
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
 18 Deboss, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 8:18:36 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Hm, the only other thing I can really think of that involves power and blonde are either racism or a connection with lightning (and that's rather unlikely from my experience).
 19 Oreochan, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 9:01:31 PM from Pennsylvania
I also think Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold is a great name for Hair of Gold. Also, wasn't Power Blonde a product from the Everyone Loves Blondes TRS thread? I agree that Power Blonde doesn't appear to be trope.

As for tropes that probably need to be renamed... how about Rose-Haired Girl? Most of the examples are just "girl has pink hair" and they don't mention any traits in description such as being cheery, passionate or energetic.

Also, I plan to do a cleanup of Raven Hair, Ivory Skin because despite the note, people are still using it for anyone with pale skin and dark hair.

As a sidenote, Icy Blue Eyes is misspelled in the OP.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 20 lu 127, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 10:09:45 PM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Power Blonde looks like a coincidence instead of a trope.
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 21 shimaspawn, Mon, 3rd Dec '12 11:50:30 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Beauty Mark is an incoherent mess of "sometimes people have moles on their faces."
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
What do people think of Hair And Heart Of Gold?

 23 lu 127, Tue, 4th Dec '12 7:42:38 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Ok, I think we need 'em one at a time or we'll keep getting sidetracked. Imma hook a single prop for Hair of Gold.
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Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold is a good name.[tup]

But can I request Shiny Midnight Black to be the next up? It's... not really a trope.

edited 4th Dec '12 7:12:09 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
 25 Troacctid, Tue, 4th Dec '12 3:09:02 PM from California
I like Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold better than Hair and Heart of Gold. The repetition has a good ring to it.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
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