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Anakin becomes SnokeIn [[www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0650.html strip 650]] it's shown that Anakin was saved, but Padme becomes Darth Vader. He is given cybernetics that might let him become [[starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Snoke a guy who is "about 6 feet tall"]]
The original players who left DM of The Rings are the starting playersFrodo is the GM who is actually trying to make a good campaign with little railroading. Sam is Jim. Merry didn't like the setting and thus didn't get involved. Pippin is Ben. Furthermore when they left Frodo was leaving to play Star Wars the RPG!
- The problem with this guess is that that strip made it quite clear that Star Wars exists in the DM of the Rings universe. The Lord of the Rings has also been mentioned in Darths & Droids.
- Ben does recognize Dooku's miniature from a campaign he played a few years ago, but since it's a bonus strip, it's probably not canon. The two universes are likely unrelated, for the reason stated above.
The GM's name is George.He will reveal it eventually.
- And the last sentences of the comic will be:
- "GM: Well, you won. How was the campaign?
- Sally: Super! Thanks, George!
- Pete and Jim: Yeah, most parts were awesome.
- Pete: ...but you could cut the talking a little.
- Ben: Well, I've got to admit, this was pretty good.
- GM: Yeah, kinda epic. Wonder how good would be a film made out of this..."
- No the GM IS George Lucas if he was born in 1970 and thus hadn't lost his writing talent yet.
Addendum to the aboveGeorge will hand off the game to his friend, Walt, after he's done with episode 6.
The GM is David Morgan-MarI ask you: has David Morgan-Mar ever not been the GM in any of his numerous webcomics?
- Also, the in-universe DMM takes ideas from the other players' antics and uses them in Wands And Warts.
- And in that universe, David uses his ideas for Notes and Nazis, and in that one, for Mutants and Miscreants, and so on.
Pete was the DM in DM of the Rings.
- His justification for being substitute GM was that he had the most GMing experience of everyone in the group, aside from the GM himself.
- His Railroading-heavy GMing style seems to resemble that of DMotR's DM.
- His first name is Pete. Maybe his last name is "Jackson?"
- Aside from the Railroading, the two styles are pretty different. (DM of the Rings wants to tell a story and couldn't care less about fights, experience, and loot, Pete couldn't care less about story, but will want to design encounters, and has more of a loot and experience focus.)
The players (and GM) are Time LordsWhen they're done the game, they'll decide that it would make an awesome movie and time-travel to find a younger George Lucas. The differences between the game and the not-yet-future movies? YOU try figuring out what actually happened when you have five different people telling you what happened. And also, we didn't have any Doctor Who WMG for this yet.
- No, you fool, they are obviously Haruhi Suzumiya. All of them.
The Game Master will turn out to be the GM of the "DM of the Rings", who learned his lesson from that campaign. Ben was one of the players.It'd explain why the Game Master is doing a space opera.
Steve from Irregular Webcomic is the GM.At some point he'll say something to the extent of 'This campaign's a bit stroppy!'
After finishing Star Wars, they'll start a new campaign- The Order of the Stick.Pete is Belkar, Annie is Elan, Ben is Roy, Jim is probably Haley, and Sally is Varsuuvius. They'll get a new player for Durkon, obviously.
- Really? Seems that Sally and Annie should be switched. Sally is more crazy, but story-oriented, thus explaining Elan's trope-happy-yet-incredibly naive personality, and well...Soul. Splice.
- Belkar must be the least optimised character in the entire Order (at least since Elan Took A Level In Dashing Swordsman). No way is he Pete's character.
- Durkon is obviously played by a a more relaxed Pete, note how Dwarves are one of the most cheesed out Core races of Dungeons & Dragons, and Clerics are so powerful when not used as a heal bot that this troper's friend refuses to play one after his last one out shown the Fighter and Wizard simultaneous, while still healing back in 3e.
- They could have the new player Corey to play Belkar, if Pete is Durkon.
The GM is a GIRL!It's so obvious.
- Don't they refer to him as, well, "him"?
- Only in-character, when the GM is using male NPCs.
- Pete is shown as being of the mind that girls don't play RPGs at all. I forget whether he knew the GM previously, but if he didn't, he doesn't show the same sort of reaction to the GM that he did with Sally or Annie. If the GM were a girl, then either A. Pete knew her previously and thus wouldn't likely be all "OMG a girl?!" at Annie, or B. he would've gone, "OMG a girl GM!?" at some point.
- Short hair?
- I thought of this myself, but unfortunately they do refer to the GM as 'him' in strip 100.
The GM's name is Luke.And he'll play Luke Skywalker in Episode IV, when Sally takes over as GM.
- At least partially Jossed; Corey is playing Luke, and the regular GM is still GMing.
The players are the same ones as the Fantasy and Space themes in Irregular Webcomic!.Jim is Kyros and Serron. Ben is Iki Piki. Sally is either Draak or Dwalin. Annie is Paris and Alvissa. Pete could be Mordekai.
Newcomer Corey is going to be Luke.Pete's nephew Corey seems to like computers a lot, so much that, when he is told that role-playing games are played with paper and dice, and in person, he seems surprised. Given his status as a newcomer to the Tabletop RPG scene, it makes sense that Corey will be Luke.
Greedo is a Red Herring.The set up for Jim's characters dying is to throw us off. He really is going to be Han Solo next, but the writers are trying to mess with us.
- They did say in a translation thread (for the strip where Anakin kills the Greedo of the movies) that "That solves that problem", meaning Greedo is dead, so this does seem likely.
- I'm calling it confirmed with the latest page. A pilot whose sidekick is Chewie? Unless they have something really elaborate planned, it has to be Han.
- I knew it! Greedo is Harrison Ford! The faux-Italian/Spanish accent was unexpected though.
Boba Fett is, in reality, Sio Bibble...Having survived the destruction of Naboo, he goes insane (unless he was always insane, and stopped the pretense of being otherwise) and steals Jango Fett's rusty suit from a museum, thinking himself to be Jango's son. During the carbonite scene, Han pulls off a good fight while trying to avoid going into the carbon freeze, only to be defeated when Boba uses Summon Bigger Fish on him, pushing him into the chamber. The switch is turned on, and Han is encased in carbonite. Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
Pete is a defense attorneyLet us count the signs: He wears a suit for his job; Sometimes he has to show up late due to working with his clients; He's been inside a prison; His job entails giving speeches; He's very good at working the rules of the game to his advantage. The signs are all there.
"Bria Tharen" is actually named Jyn Erso.She changed her name from Jyn Erso to Bria Tharen to disconnect herself from her father Galen Erso. After all, name changes happen a lot in this setting: Luke Amidala changed his name to Adam Lars, then to Luke Starkiller; Freddo changed his name to Greedo, then to Han Solo; Padmé changed her name to Darth Vader, Montoja Inigua changed his name to Doctor Evazan, etc.
- Confirmed. Although it's just something Jim comes up with on the spot.
Future In-game Roles WMGs
Annie will play Lando after Vader diesThey need a PC to blow up the second Peace Moon as discussed in strip 1482.
The players in episode 4 are the children of the original players.
- Episode 4 is called "A New Generation". They've got similar names to the original generations, but who's to say it's not Jim Jr., or named for their parents' sibling or old friend?
Annie will play Han Solo, Jim will be Leia, Pete is still R2.The latest comic has Jim suggest Annie to play a pirate now that Anakin is "dead", with Padmé dying Jim might want to play a similar character as Leia. Ben might switch to Luke who could be a GM PC, while Sally can do some character jumping between C3 and Chewbacca (admit it, she would love it and she created the character). In episode 5 she could take control of Yoda again.
- Well Jim just pre-emptively gave baby Leia his blaster.
In Episodes IV-VI, Han Solo will be played by Annie and Jim will play Leia (or vice-versa).Han and Leia's initially antagonistic relationship in episode 4-5 will be represented by Jim and Annie's current relationship troubles, then at the end of episode 5 they'll get back together to coincide with the scene of Han being frozen in carbonite. Luke will be a DM PC, Ben will play Obi-Wan until his death, then switch to Luke. Sally and Pete will reprise their roles as C-3PO and R2-D2 respectively.
- Han's Big Damn Heroes moment at the end of Episode 4 seems like the sort of unexpected character development Annie would be fond of. Not likely Jim would be subtle enough to play Han's original, mercenary character.
In Episodes IV-VI, Han Solo will be played either by Jim or by Ben.Jim seems to fit the character well (although we all know how well the Irregulars stick to the character from the movies), and Ben dies not long after they met Han (who at that point was an NPC) in a bar, and he was a good character to take over.
After Qui-Gon dies, his player will roll up a new character - Han Solo.You can't get more Han Soloy than Qui-Gon's player. Similarly, Annie will probably take over Luke after Anakin turns evil.
- Problem: What does he do while he's waiting for Han to actually join the plot?
- "Let's see this new character you've rolled up, Jim. Huh... you named a former Jedi after a dinosaur? Oh, excuse me, after Count Dracula and a dinosaur..."
- Yeah, Qui-Gon dies two movies and 30 years before Han Solo's ever on screen. Maybe at that point the player will leave, and come back later, but that's a stretch. And why would Annie stop playing Anakin after he turns evil? If it were by her own actions (which, given recent strips is very likely) why would she stop playing the character she's deliberately built?
- Games get really hard to manage if you have players on both antagonist and protagonist sides working against each other.
- That just adds more opportunities for jokes, doesn't it?
- Games get really hard to manage if you have players on both antagonist and protagonist sides working against each other.
- Jim has officially slipped into the high heels of Amidala as of Qui Gon's death.
- Which makes Han fit as his next character even better.
- How so? As Padmé, he'd have kids (Luke and Leia) and then if he takes over as Han he'd be hitting on his own (in-game) kid. That'd be kinda... off in some ways.
- If Jim plays Han, Annie has to let Vader become an NPC and switch to playing Leia... Or it could be the other way around. Again.
- Which she has done, so this is quite possible.
After Qui-Gon dies, his player will roll up a new character - Amidala.It'll take a lot of persuading from Ben and Annie, because Jim won't want to play a female character. But it'll happen.
- A recent strip showed that Jim may be interested in Annie. He's going to try to express that through role play - and he'd balk even more at playing a gay character.
- This would explain why Amidala goes on the full adventure in Attack of the Clones, and the adventure only starts when she arrives.
- It would also explain the fact that Amidala is totally cool with Anakin massacring an entire village full of Sand People.
- Meh, Sand bastards had it coming. And considering it's D&D, he probably killed them for XP.
- And after Annie makes Anakin go evil and Amidala dies they both roll up new characters: Han Solo and Leia. And Obi-Wan rolls Chewie.
- Meh, Sand bastards had it coming. And considering it's D&D, he probably killed them for XP.
- Also, he recently got to know that he can earn XP with good roleplaying. So he will "abuse the rules" by having all those Amidala/Anakin scenes with Annie.
Pete plays Chewie.Being incredibly strong, good with ranged weaponry, and gave up speech and wearing clothing as negative traits.
- Alternatively, Sally could make up the Wookiees. I mean, they are like giant teddy bears.
- Ewoks more so. Waitaminute...
- Umm..what? R2's alive in all 6 movies, so why not just keep playing him?
- Jossed. Ben seems to have taken over for Chewie after Obi-wan's death.
Jim will take over Anakin letting Annie play 'that queen chick'It would make the slaughter of the sandpeople make more sense. And maybe some more of the 'Jim and Annie relationship causes Anakin's decent' from the other direction.
- Jossed — for now, at least. It's possible that Jim and Annie will switch characters later, but rather unlikely.
- Impossible now that Anakin's dead. However, Annie does end up playing Padme as Vader.
Sally will switch to C-3PO when she realizes how ridiculous Jar-Jar isFandom wishes aside, there's only a handful of scenes with Jar-Jar in them for the rest of the trilogy, so she needs a new character (or to be Put on a Bus, but nobody wants that). Who better than the prequels' other comic-relief scrappy in desperate need of image rehabilitation? As far as an in-universe justification, it's been two years since the first campaign, more than enough time for Jar-Jar and his accent to become an Old Shame.
- Alternatively, she will take over Mace Windu, Yoda, or some other Jedi. Someone that can actually fight.
- Somewhat confirmed. Sally has thrown a tantrum and refuses to continue playing. Whether she will re-enter as another character remains to be seen.
- She just changed to Dex, but seeing that Ben is pointed to Kamino, and she make her character to stay at the diner, she probably need to change character...again.
- This troper is starting to think she's going to end up playing all the really weird minor characters that show up, sorta like a freelance NPC.
- As of this comic, she's taken over C-3PO, so it looked like this one was right...
- ... until she started playing Mace Windu in this one. Ain't no stoppin' her.
- And then she changed back to Jar-Jar to make the senate speech, and is currently controlling C-3PO again while the GM is away. So, uh, maybe she'll play both C-3PO and Windu and switch between them, or something?
- And now, as of this strip, she has switched to Yoda, and the GM has put his foot down and said "NO MORE CHARACTER SWITCHING!" meaning she'll probably be Yoda from now on. She might still do some switching, though...
- ...There is no way the writers weren't watching this page.
- This troper is starting to think she's going to end up playing all the really weird minor characters that show up, sorta like a freelance NPC.
After Qui-Gon dies, Jim will either take over as GM or help the GM make the planets for the next game.Remember, Jim knows geophysics, and he helped explain Naboo a little bit better with the things he picked up from the map the GM had and Sally's underwater thing.
- Much later than the original WMG, but Jim did run the Dark Forces campaign between Episode III and IV
Ben will re-enter as Lando Calrissian after Obi-Wan is killed in Episode 4This explains why there is no mention of what would become a major character until halfway through the second to last movie.
Jim will play Luke, Annie will play Leia and Ben will re-enter as Han Solo after Obi-Wan is killed in Episode 4 (and Lando when Han is frozen). Pete will control both the Droids and Sally will play Chewbacca.Prior to Obi-Wan's death, Han is only a NPC. Pete controlling both the droids may end up being through the Leadership feat or something.
In the Original Trilogy setting, Jim will play Leia and Sally will play Han.
- Just a hunch. It would seem like Sally would want a giant teddy bear as her best friend (even though she's trying to act "grown up" in the AOTC setting). And with Jim playing Amidala all gung ho, Leia would be a natural extension. "Into the garbage chute, Flyboy!"
- I'd venture that Sally will want to play Chewie instead. Think about it, it's exactly the kind of character someone who likes to play "cute" aliens would want to play, but at the same time wants to look good in front of her friends. "Okay, so he's basically a furry teddy bear alien... but he's totally tough and strong! I swear! "
- Jossed. Jim plays Han, Annie plays Leia and Darth Vader, and Sally plays Threepio.
Sally is going to take over as GM for the next campaignThe shift in tone will be because she'll have grown up even further by that time. Various retcons or inconsistencies will be because she doesn't have the previous GM's notes. This will explain the change in quality between the prequels (not to hate on the current GM, he's not bad, he just doesn't have the natural storytelling aptitude Sally does) and go with the general theme of passing things on to a new generation that "A New Hope" was all about.
- I actually thought of this and wanted to add it. It makes perfect sense, as her role in Attack of the Clones has switched almost solely to description and playing NPCs. Also, don't know if a GM ever roleplays himself, but I have this idea that the GM's name is Luke....
- I third this one. The GM even seems a bit to be grooming Sally for the role, making a point of having her do the "set design" for Kamino.
- I fourth this one but because it seems in universe time has passed just as time between movies does, and having Sally GM for the current players kids (except Pete on R2),
- I fifth this, because the current group is cracking apart at the seams so badly it'd require an Author's Saving Throw to keep them all together. Sally's removed enough from things to look back later with rose-colored glasses and run a new game from the fragments of the old.
- Sixth-ing this, or some form of it any way (timeskip with maybe new players and an old standby). It's a cool DM trick to pull out really old characters, especially when they're -your- (or someone you know) character; it makes them that much more heroic. The current cast is pretty much playing characters with a vastly reduced role in the original three movies; they show up, look cool, and go away again (or they're dead). Having new kids of the old cast would make for one heck of "Luke, I am your father" meta-game moment (though may be too dark for the strip). At any rate (as that's unlikely), looking at them... Anakin, Padmé, Obi, Yoda, R2. Anakin becomes Darth; given the strips real life events, this is predicated by the as-yet unnamed conflict between Anne and Jim. Given what we know of the movies, at some point, Obi and Ana fight and both of their characters die (or go away at any rate). This would be Jim and Anne breaking up poorly. Come the big reveal in the original trilogy and the very emotional moment between Luke (who would suit Jim) and Vader, Anne surprises the group by showing up that session and reconciling with Jim. Han, Chewie, R2, Leia, C3, and Lando... Han and Leia are -Pete- and Sally. Ben becomes Chewie and the droids. R2 in the original is much less munchkin-y whereas Han is basically a no-name smuggler who somehow manages to hang with powerful people and thumb his nose at both rebels and empire. And he has a cool ship - one can see Pete getting a sidekick and such for being 'normal'. Or him just growing up. And then Sally could have a 'She grew up moment'. Though on the other hand, if Ben is Luke and Sally is Leia, then the 'He's my brother!' moment could be funny. ARGH!
- I'm going to go out on a limb and call bullshit on the "Sally will be GM" theory. It simply doesn't make sense. Consider the imagination shown by Sally in designing characters, races and planets for the prequel trilogy. Now consider the fact that basically every world visited by the characters in the original trilogy are single biome planets. Unless Sally undergoes some serious character decay (which seems incredibly unlikely given that her imagination is running strong at this point of the story), then the original GM will remain. Sally will continue with her current role of designing characters and creatures and adding variety to the maps created by the GM.
With the exception of Pete, none of the players will play their character from the third episode to the fourth..It's too big a leap, and everyone will adopt new characters for the new campaign... except Pete, who refuses to give up his XP. My guesses: Ben: Plays Luke. Jim: Plays Han Solo Annie: Plays Leia Sally: Plays C-3PO Pete: Plays R2-D2. The GM will have great delight in playing Ben's old character against Ben, and turning Annie's character into the main villain.
- I think that would be too obvious. Personally, I'm going for:
- Ben: Han ("Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star, or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?")
- Jim: Leia (if he likes playing Padmé)
- Annie: Luke (he's the most dramatic)
- Sally: Chewbacca
- Pete: R2-D2
- Partly confirmed. Pete stays as Artoo, Jim plays Han, Annie plays Leia, and Sally plays Threepio. However Ben stays as Obi-wan, a new player, Corey, joins as Luke, and Annie also plays Vader.
Sally will someday become the most epic DM ever.
- To the point where she'll make a living off of being a game designer. Look into your heart, you know it to be true.
Episodes IV-VI will be a different campaign played by different people and ruled by a different GMThe characters that were in episodes I-III will be reprised by the original players for the simple reason of them transplanting the characters into the campaign. Eventually, the old GM and players will return and assist the new GM and players, perhaps Episode VI?
During the escape from the Invisible Hand, Sally will temporarily take over PalpatineThe battle sequence at the beginning of Episode III will probably take more than one session in-universe (especially if deleted scenes are included), so they'll stop right around the time they fight Dooku, then come back next session and Sally will be back. She'll get bored and want to do something in-game, but there's no way to justify Yoda or Mace or some other character appearing out of nowhere, so the GM will just let her control Palpatine until they escape the ship. And he was originally meant to have average stats being just a politician, but Sally or Ben will point out that he's a retired Jedi and demand better stats for him. The change in Palpatine's personality and making him stronger will be responsible for Dooku dying, and Anakin's subsequent fall, and also convince the GM to use Schrödinger's Gun to make him the evil Sith Lord we all know and love.
Jim isn't coming backThe GM will keep playing Padmé as a NPC, then kill her off once it's certain Jim's not returning.
Jim is coming back, but as Palpatine:Jim gets bored of playing a "Girlie goody goody" so he opts to play as a Jedi again. The GM says no, but allows Jim to play as Palpatine (a 'former' jedi) to shut him up. Jim agrees, because this means he can play as a (former) Jedi with even more power and influence than Padmé (and even gets to run both sides and fight with Jedi). Order 66 occurs when Jim realizes that he really isn't allowed to be a true Jedi, so he says "If I can't be a Jedi, than no one can!" and orders the clones to kill them all.
Jim will be Luke, Ben will be Obi-Wan still, Pete will be R2 still, Sally will be C-3PO, and Annie will be Han.
- Although when Obi-Wan dies Ben takes over the new NPC they just got Leia.
- Sally may change characters a lot because she is prone to do so.
- Chewie will be an NPC thrown in that Sally makes up when Han first appears.
- Vader will not be a PC simply because they don't know who Vader is until Episode 5 in the Luke, I Am Your Father moment.
- Has Anakin's last name even been revealed in the comic? There's no way to avoid not showing the end of Episode III's "Anakin Becomes Vader"... but the reveal is that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker.
R2 will be, if only briefly, a GMPC.Whether that means Pete will permanently leave the character, I don't know. I see it happening something like this: Episode IV opens with Pete and some other player (Sally seems likely, as she's played 3PO before, but it could be anyone) as the droids, who land on Tatooine, get captured by Jawas (Pete fails his Fortitude save) and get rescued by Luke, another PC the GM was waiting to introduce. The session then ends, and Pete does not attend the following session so the GM uses R2 to introduce Ben's character back into the story. Pete may return to R2 afterwards, or else roll up a new character or leave the game entirely.
Jim plays both Han and Chewie.
- Jim plays Han and Chewie.
- I contend that this is foreshadowing that he will play two characters. Han and Chewie share practically every frame they're onscreen, not to mention (Movie)Han has certain traces of Jim's gung-ho attitude, making them the logical choices.
- Annie plays Luke.
- Pete plays R2-D2.
- Ben plays Obi-Wan for A New Hope. After that... ?
- Sally plays C-3PO in A New Hope, then switches to Lando (and briefly switches back to C-3PO for the beginning of Return of the Jedi).
- Vader is an NPC... for now.
- Leia is also an NPC, if only for A New Hope.
Jim will play a character who dies during the campaign.Both of the characters played by Jim have died. They will turn it into a Running Gag by giving Jim a character that will die during the course of the campaign. This can possibly mean that Jim will take over either Palpatine or Vader, who are the only central characters I can remember dying during the original trilogy. I think it's more likely that Jim will take over Palpatine and turn him into a Large Ham with Insane Troll Logic, explaining some of the stuff done by the Empire in the original trilogy ("Our moon sized battlestation got blown up? Build another one! And this time make it bigger!")
- Confirmed as happening off-panel. Jim has just died as Captain Antilles, & apparently he bit it with 3 other characters (including Kyle Katarn & possibly Bail Organa) each in their respective first sessions during the interim.
Ben will play multiple characters that get quickly killed soon after being introduced.Obi-Wan dies in the Death Star but there are no major characters that Ben can play as until Lando in the next movie. Ben will play as Biggs and give him lots of characterization before being hit with a string of bad rolls, killing him. Then he will play as Dack before being killed again by horrible rolls. He will then play permanently as Lando.
Pete will play Han, Sally will be Leia, Ben will be Luke.Lately, Sally seems to have jumped on the power gaming bandwagon to Pete's approval and their dialogue suggests a lot of interaction outside of the game. After the time skip, Sally and Pete will become a couple over the course of the campaign much to Ben's annoyance.
- Isn't Sally, you know, still a young teenager while Pete is at least in his 20s, since he's friends of the characters who were established as being in college back in Episode 1 (which is a couple time-skips ago by now)?
To repeat from the above: Ben will be Luke.This is mostly based on the "Well Done, Son!" Guy stuff that has been introduced with Ben recently. The only other logical choice is for Annie to take the role, but then who's gonna play Vader? ...Jim, maybe? Also, at complete random, I'm guessing Pete will be Lando.
Darth Vader will be an NPCAnnie and the GM went to considerable length to act out Vader's creation while everybody else was out of the room. Plus, Anakin is never referred as Darth Vader in the actual D&D storyline. Thus the GM will play Vader as an NPC as a means of preserving the Twist.
Annie will play Vader again after The RevealAfter the Luke, I Am Your Father Reveal, everyone in the party will know about Vader being Anakin. Annie will resume playing him after this point.
Nobody except Pete will be sticking with the same character throughout the game
- Ben is already planned to come in as Han. He will switch over to Lando after Han gets frozen in carbonite, and probably switch back later.
- Jim will be set up with Luke, who is much more suited to the GM's preference for Arc Welding.
- Annie will assume control of Obi-Wan temporarily (he had originally been planned as an NPC). Just as Obi-Wan mentors Luke in-game, she will be mentoring Jim in properly roleplaying a character. Jim will alternate between decent roleplaying and his more typical behavior. During/after the Death Star section, Annie will regain control of Leia.
- The Romance Triangle will follow the movies. It will start off as Jim and Annie's RL relationship carrying over into the game, but eventually Annie decides to pursue an in-game relationship with Han. There will be significant tension over this.
- Sally will realize that Threepio is a pretty crappy character stat-wise, and switch over to Chewbacca by the start of Empire.
- Sally and/or Annie may briefly take control of Wedge during the assault on the first Death Star.
Nobody except Sally will be sticking with the same character throughout the game
- (Timeframe: Jim has died on the Tantive IV). Jim will be unable to make the next session, before returning as Han. Annie is about to be captured and will play as Luke for a while. Ben returns as Kenobi until the Death Star escape then takes over Leia (low chance) or takes over Luke while Annie returns to Leia (better chance) for the rest of Episode IV. Ben's attendance becomes restricted (med school? residency?) resulting in Luke's Split the Party status in Episode V - and Pete doubles as Chewbacca after being caught on the split (bonus XP for being Huge and unintelligable). Dagobah is Ben and the GM running a secondary set of sessions to keep level parity. After Han is frozen Jim plays as Lando.
Luke won't be a PCIn an attempt to deliberately recreate the accidental PC-ifying of Anakin, the DM will introduce Luke, make a big deal of him being the Chosen One, and have him hang around while Jim's characters all get killed. The players, being players, will completely ignore this.
Jim will play HanWe now know that Annie plays Leia, and in the movies Han and Leia hook up by the end of the OT. Romantic sideplot developing as a result of their out-of-game relationship, anyone?
- Now that he'll be playing Greedo, it certainly seems viable that he would switch to Han after Greedo gets shot.
- Or maybe Greedo is the character who resembles Harrison Ford.
Jim will play multiple characters who get killed off almost immediately after being introducedHe apparently played several one-shot characters in the sessions before Episode IV started, and since then has played Captain Antilles (choked by Vader) and is about to start as Greedo (shot by Han). Future characters will include:
- Bail Organa (killed in the destruction of Alderaan).
- A rebel spy aboard the Peace Moon (shot by the other PCs).
- An X-Wing pilot during the attack on the Peace Moon (shot down).
- Luke's copilot on Hoth (dies in the crash).
Jim is about to reappear playing Obi-Wan.This will fulfill his intention of playing a character "with a really detailed background" who is unlikely to die - or so he and the rest of the party thinks. This will make it genuinely shocking (to the players) when he dies at the end of Episode IV, and bend the overall plot towards seeking vengeance on Darth Vader.
Ben will play Chewbacca following Obi-Wan's deathThus, the dream team of Ben & Jim (as Han Solo) is reunited at last. Or it could be flipped, with Jim taking Chewie and Ben taking Han, providing an interesting Love Triangle as Han and Leia's relationship from the films comes into play.
Ben will switch to playing Wedge Antilles, then Lando Calrissian after Ben's deathHe plays Wedge for the Death Star and the Battle of Hoth, and in this version it's Wedge who both conceives and executes the plan to destroy the AT-ATs (it seems like the kind of thing Ben would do). In this version Wedge is killed or captured after Hoth so Ben switches to playing Lando and plays him until the end of the game.
Ben will be Chewbacca, and Jim will be LandoOkay, my reasoning behind this. As we know, Obi-Wan will die at the hands of Darth Vader. Now, it'd be far enough along in the adventure that the GM will have him take over a convenient NPC, like how Jim became Padmé. The only really convenient NPC at that point is, of course, Chewie. Meanwhile, come Episode V, Han will have gotten himself frozen in carbonite, which is as much the fault of Jim being an idiot as anything. So, he temporarily takes over the previously morally ambiguous character of Lando for the quest to get Han back. When they get Han back, he switches between the two, much like Sally as 3PO and Yoda. This allows him to blow the shield bunker and also blow up the Second Peace Moon with Wedge. It also results in Lando's miraculous knowledge that the shields are still up when the fleet jumps out of hyperspace.
- And Ben would play Wedge as the WMG above. Nice Book Ends with the beginning of the whole story.note
Sally will play LandoShortly after Lando shows up, Threepio gets blown to pieces. Sally will decide she's tired of playing a comic relief sidekick and ask to bring in an actual adventuring character. It helps that a city floating in the clouds of a gas giant is perfectly consistent with the kind of setting she'd come up with. Sally won't want Threepio to be repaired, but Ben's Chewbacca will do it just to mess with her.
Most of the Players will play 2 Characters in the Final BattleThe exception being Corey, whose character will be on the Peace Moon II. And even then, he could play Wicket the Ewok.
Lando won't be a PC......except maybe during the rescue of "Greedo" in the 1st part of the 6th campaign.note Other than that, the other players already have characters for the Endor Campaign which makes Lando redundant. Of course he's not in that part of the campaign, he's in the "Space Battle" part, so by this point the players could have 2 PCs at once, as above. But still... for the whole story to be decided by a then NPC...
Sally will pull the same stunt that Annie did with Darth Vaderwhen Luke meets Yoda If Corey, not knowing who Yoda is, sees that Yoda is being played by Sally, he might think "This character is a PC, so he must be important", which would kind of ruin the part where Yoda pretends he's someone else in order to evaluate Luke. Thus, Yoda will be played by the GM until The Reveal
Luke: Sally? What? Who are you?
Episode VII roles BEWARE FILM SPOILERSThe film has been out for some time, so only spoilers about the two big twists will be tagged.
- Jim and Ben remain in their roles as Han and Chewie respectively.
- Corey will play Finn (and learn the hard way not to wield a laser sword if he isn't a Jedi). Luke becomes an NPC.
Finn/Corey: I attack the Stormtrooper <roll> 11.GM: <roll> He parries with his electro-baton, I told you unless you're proficient you're not gonna have much luck hitting things with it.Han/Jim: Himself included so far.Finn/Corey: Can I go back to playing Luke now?
- Alternatively Corey is on vacation for most of the campaign and only returns in time for the final session as Luke, and Finn is played by a new player: Sally's boyfriend.
- Sally might go through a tomboy phase and decide to abandon C-3PO in favor of Rey, and be a Jedi after seeing that no one else is. Furthermore the Ship Tease between Finn and Rey is translated into Corey and Sally deciding to get together (they would be in their mid teens at that point). 3PO likewise becomes a minor NPC.
Rey/Sally: I use Suggestion. "You will release me." <roll> 19!Stormtrooper: I will release you.Rey/Sally: I can't believe I did this on the first go... oh and: "you will leave your gun".
- Pete will play Kylo Ren. After seeing how much fun Annie had roleplaying Vader, he just drops the pretense and embraces his power hunger wholesale, he also decides to try and roleplay some more and ends up becoming a really annoying Thespian, somewhat screwing up his Min-Maxing this time and rolling up a Stone Wall instead of a Mighty Glacier that ends up being bested by Sally's character.
Finn/Corey: Just how many critical hits can your character take?! You were already shot in the splanch by Ben, went through several explosions and I just stabbed you in the shoulder with a fracking laser sword! How is your character still upright?Kylo Ren/Pete: Critical Resistance, and it only cost me a minor penalty to my control over the Force and my attack rolls, nothing I can't live without.Rey/Sally: We'll see about that.
- Possibly hinted at in Episodes 1503 and 1510. In both, Pete showed an interest in keeping Vader's helmet.
- Annie will play Poe Dameron, as Jim becomes more of a Roleplayer, she becomes more of a Real Man. Leia becomes an NPC similar to the webcomic's Palpatine/pre-Sally Yoda, a quest giver.
Poe/Annie: I line those PIEs up and bake them one by one.GM: Roll.Poe/Annie: <roll> 13, <roll> 16, <roll> 19, <roll> 16.Finn/Corey: Whoa.Poe/Annie: Best star pilot in the galaxy right here.
Rogue One rolesSo the next film covered will be Rogue One. So who's going to be playing who?
- Jim plays Jyn, and she's even more aggressive than she was in the film.
- Ben plays Cassian, who spends most of the story dealing with Jyn's lack of subtlety and fondness for explosions.
- Sally plays K-2SO continuing her droid rights plotline.
- Pete plays Chirrut, taking the Blind flaw but counteracting it with Force Sight seems like the sort of thing he'd do.
- Annie plays Bodhi, the troubled defector seems like the sort of character she'd enjoy.
- Corey plays Baze, he's fed up with playing melee characters and wants someone with a large gun.
- Confirmed for Sally and Pete. Jossed for Annie, who plays Cassian, and for Ben and Corey, who aren't in the campaign. Jim plays "Kyle Katarn" (Saw Gerrera), but whereas "Bria Tharen" (Jyn) is an NPC, but it's implied that upon Kyle's death, Jim will switch to playing Bria.
In the "Rogue One" campaign, Jim's character will be called Kyle KatarnSo that the continuity doesn't contradict this episode. Scarif will also be called "Danuta" instead. And the deaths of Jim's previous characters Bria Tharen and Bail Organa will be references.
- Alternatively, Jim's first character will be Saw Gerrera, renamed "Kyle Katarn", and then he'll take over Jyn, renamed "Bria Tharen". Bail Organa will die in the final scene with Vader.
- Confirmed. Jim plays Saw Gerrera, renamed Kyle Katarn, and Jyn is an NPC renamed Bria Tharen, who will potentially be taken over by Jim once Kyle Katarn dies. Danuta, however, is Jedha, not Scarif (which will be probably renamed Toprawa instead).
Future In-game Plot WMGs
Anakin gets tired of playing a good character.Making Darth Vader.
- More likely Darth is just the result of Annie responding in-character, if overly dramatically, to every nasty twist sprung on her. Imagine it - the GM says: "Your mother dies in your arms." Regular player: "Oh, that sucks. Do I still get XP for completing the mission?" Annie: "Okay, I'm traumatised and stricken with grief. Because I'm a brooding teenage boy I look for something to lash out at... okay, I've killed all these guys. That's going to leave me even more traumatised, isn't it?"
Annie will go Dark Side because she breaks up with her boyfriend.In a recent strip, she mentioned that she was already dating someone, and there's already her tendency to play Anakin as melodramatically angsty as possible. If something bad happens in the real world, say she gets dumped, it's quite possible she'll project that frustration into her character and make him do things like threaten and force choke his love interest, or slaughter sand people.
- And she implied she's lying because of who asked her. Plus Ben already said to Jim that she's not seeing anyone.
- To combine this with a previous theory, Jim will take control of Padmé as his character, and he and Annie will start dating, causing the romantic subplot between Anakin and Padmé. Anakin's switch to the Dark Side will be caused by a breakup with Jim, which will be why Anakin force chokes Padmé.
- All but confirmed now. At the second campaign's end, after Anakin and Padmé's wedding, Jim asks Annie out and she accepts. Two years later, when the third campaign starts, Annie is obviously upset about Jim and Pete mentions that they've been going out.
- Partially jossed - Annie and Jim have made up, but this hasn't stopped Anakin's fall to the Dark Side. Of course, they made up after Anakin had already slaughtered the younglings, so the partial bit is important - Annie is enough of a thespian to keep on going from the characterization that has already been established, and when the pre-making-up characterization includes manipulating your head of state into executing the rest of your organisation and killing innocent children looking to you for help...
Annie will have no remorse in killing sandpeople and younglings.As seen in strip 192, Annie has no remorse about blowing up the Trade Federation ship and killing anyone on. To her, it's merely to show that she's not to be messed with. After the sandpeople incident, she will make her character more cold and mechanical, making her more willing to kill Dooku, the younglings, and Ben's character.
- Sand People down.
Anakin will turn Palpatine to the Dark SidePalpatine seems to be a good character in Episode I. This could just be an act, but the writers do like inverting Star Wars plotlines.
- Getting more likely as of the final arc of Attack of the Clones. Annie is taking Anakin through his original development, but with no influence from Palpatine, so unless it's just coincidence that they're both evil by the end...
- In progress as of the climax of Revenge of the Sith. Anakin takes advantage of Palpatine's emotional instability after Mace's assassination attempt to convince him that democide against the Jedi is the only solution
Yoda is the SithSally doesn't protest when Anakin accuses Yoda and Windu of being Sith. Don't tell me SALLY knows how to separate in- and out of character experience.
The under-construction new moon of Naboo is the Death StarIt's an artificial moon-sized/shaped object, it's under construction, and its plans have been stolen. That's No Moon!!
- Yes! Building a moon! Dedication to the cause of the Peace Moon could also be why Annie joins the Dark Side.
Dagobah happens because everyone except Luke and the GM go on vacation.The GM uses an NPC to train Luke in a level of badass while the other characters are at Cloud City while their players are away. Annie and Lando's player are dating (or even on their honeymoon, considering how long three movies worth of RP could take), and Han and Leia's characters have their own business to attend to.
Anne will become a MunchkinAnne will eventually just think this is all a game, which leads in her killing the sand people and the Jedi.
- Jossed, Anne did these things because she was dedicated to playing her character as a character (but not necessarily as a heroic character).
The Game will also include...The game will continue on past the movies to include the Clone Wars series. Both of Them. I mean think of it; Ahsoka seems like the kind of person Sally would roll up.
- Addendum: They will, but it will be skipped over with another Time Skip.
Sio Bibble was behind everything all along.Not sure if David Morgan-Mar will be able to find enough images of Bubble in the second or third movies, but damn, the GM would have to be crazy not to reward that kind of persistence.
Anakin will become Darth Vader because of a Face–Heel Turn by Padmé.Look at how Jim's playing her: She's the one who's trying to spearhead creating an army, seeing enemies (like Bibble) where there are none, and is acting like a psychopathic lunatic in character. Therefore, when Padmé starts to go mad with power and trying to create her empire, Anakin will end up having to Shoot the Dog, at which point Obi Wan will show up, misinterpret what's happened with the force choking, and attack him.
The Peace Moon will become the Death StarSeem's pretty obvious to me. We haven't seen it yet, it's the size of a moon, and in theory it could bring about peace.
- Confirmed. It's never called Death Star in the comic, only as Peace Moon.
The Babies Won't Be Luke and Leia, They'll be Luke and HanAnd Bail was too smart to raise the baby himself. Han will be Leia's sweetheart who ran away to seek adventure, breaking her heart. She'll want nothing to do with him, at first...
- Jossed. They're still named Luke and Leia.
The Time Skip to the Original Trilogy Will Not Be PlannedThe players will get the Republic so thoroughly messed up at the end of the third leg of the campaign that the GM will get back to them after a weekend/month/whatever and say, "I have a solution..."
The Original Trilogy will be an entirely different psionics-only Space Opera setting.But Pete pesters the DM until he (or she, see above) throws up his (or her) hands in frustration and says "Fine! You get to be R2! Jerk. But I'm not changing the Empire setting!"
- Jossed. It's the continuation of the same campaign in the same setting.
Jango Fett is Darth MaulWhen he was bisected the wound was cauterised and he managed to live long enough to have his consciousness transferred into a clone body.
- Close but no cigar. Maul was Jango's partner.
Jango Fett is meant to kill Mace Windu.Jango is supposed to be a long-term recurring nemesis. Windu is just another NPC authority figure. For an NPC to kill off the hero's nemesis makes very little sense. Therefore, what the GM is planning is for Jango to shoot Windu in the arena fight, as part of his "destroy everything you ever cared about" scheme. Unfortunately, when they come to play that scene, the players will be feeling rules lawyer-y. So one of them will say: "Couldn't Windu block with his laser sword?" At this point the GM will feel obliged to roll some dice, with the odds carefully stacked in favour of the plot. And will then roll three ones in a row for Jango. Boba Fett will be meant to be a way of getting out of this unfortunate situation, and the GM will carefully plan out his big entrance in the later game. Unfortunately Ben will go and get himself killed by Annie before Boba can turn up, and with no plot-relevant motivation the younger Fett will be reduced to a bit part.
- This makes even more sense now that Mace Windu's part has been taken over by Sally.
- Jossed. The GM was pretty cool with Mace cutting Jango's head off, reminding Sally that he was a bad guy and Mace was a good guy. Sally, however, regretted her actions.
Jim becomes a munchkin (though not as bad as Pete) through the end of Episode 2 and the middle of Episode 3, and then sacrifices Padmé to undo his callousness.From the end of this comic and the rant below it. He takes "Pregnant" for the advantage hesitant enemies might give him and "Twins" to triple Padmé's Force Connection. Annie gets into more and more heated discussion about it with him, Pete trying to convince him to join the Dark Side, and moments after the event horizon of Anakin's forthcoming Face–Heel Turn, Jim realizes how awful he's being, waits for the twins to be born, and sacrifices his own character to show that he's truly willing to let go and role-play for the characters rather than the stats. Pete, of course, remains as R2 for the rest of the series, trying to
Mace Windu was going to be boring... Until Sally makes him a badass.Sally has already expressed irritation that she's stuck with Red Shirt types while everyone gets to be Cheddar Monks with Laser Blades. In Mace Windu she finally has a character who can keep up with the "main" players. So when the GM announces that Windu's supposed to be a Yoda-style wimp, Sally's going to Take a Third Option In Badass and turn her character into the Samuel L. Jackson-style Person of Mass Destruction we all know and love. (For that matter, Yoda's' resulting level in Badass / Windmill-On-A-Pogo-Stick fight might be a direct result of Sally upping the ante on what Cheddar Masters can do.)
- More or less confirmed. Sally played Mace during the fight scene, and now she's playing Yoda.
Annie will not return for Episode IV...As a result of lingering tension between her and both Ben and Jim. (This is an extension of the above suggestion that Annie ends up in a love triangle with the two of them). Ben and Jim will return but be fairly antagonistic despite still being on the same side in the game.
- Jossed. Annie plays Leia.
...but returns for Episode V - as LandoExplains her choice to betray Han (if he is played by Jim). They reconcile while playing, so Lando helps rescue him later.
- Also Jossed. Lando is an NPC.
The campaign for Episode IV gets derailed by the Random Encounter Table in the very first screen captureAt the start of the Episode IV campaign, the players are on board the Tanitive IV and about to land on Tatooine. Pete, still playing R2-D2, customized the Tanitive IV since acquiring it in Episode III, and is itching to test it out in combat. When the GM tells him he had no encounter planned to begin the campaign, Pete insists that he rolls one up. The GM does so and out pops the Star Destroyer. (One player asks if the large object the GM is adding to the game mat is supposed to be the planet.)
Anakin kills Padmé because Jim breaks up with AnnieAt this point, there is some crazy tension between Jim and Annie, in- and out-game. This is a natural explanation of Anakin going to kill Padmé, they will date in between and Jim breaks up with Annie in some jackass kind of way.
- Jossed, pretty much. They broke up, and then got back together before Anakin killed Padmé.
Anakin won't have a Face–Heel Turn"Darth" is either a personal name, or a title bestowed on private investigators. When Annie's character becomes Darth Vader, he's just going to be trying to create a decent galaxy for his kids to live in.
- In the D&D-verse, Darth is apparently a title used for retired Jedi.
The Peace Moon is NOT the Death StarThe whole Peace Moon= Death Star has been foreshadowed way too much. It just seems way too obvious, and Darths and Droids loves twisting the established Star Wars saga in different ways. Possibly the Peace Moon will just be a peace moon, and the players will destroy it/make sure it is never created, so a Death Star is created instead.
- Or, the Peace Moon is the "Death Star" in the New Hope screencaps, but it really is a perfectly harmless symbol of peace. Of course, the players blow it up anyway. The second Death Star may or may not be a second Peace Moon, but either way it's getting blown up too.
The Peace Moon/Death Star will be used to destroy Naboo, not AlderaanThe two planets are similar-looking enough to use Episode 4 Alderaan sceens as Naboo, and the plot has been tying the Peace Moon to Naboo for some time now. Its destruction would also have far more significance than a previously unknown planet.
- Recent events have left Naboo a devastated wasteland, so unless it is somehow healed this theory won't work, but I like it.
The Empire Are Going To Be The Good GuysOr at the very least not evil. Seems to be a lot of Nice Job Breaking It Hero moments. And every so often we get a monologue about how Jim's characters actions, via his playstyle, are pretty much completely responsible for every bad thing that's happened. One imagines the Expospeak by Palpatine in Return of The Jedi to Luke is going to be truly epic.
- The expospeak probably will be epic, since the establishment of the Empire happened between campaigns (when last we saw Palpatine, he had just appointed Darth Vader Supreme Commander of the Republic Military. When Episode IV begins, Darth Vader works for an Empire opposed by a Rebel Alliance...).
Palpatine will retroactively turn evil as the result of a Schrödinger's Gun.
- Seeing how the GM plays Palpatine as a Reasonable Authority Figure (which is in fact quite reasonable to assume from the first two movies if you watch them in chronological order), he may decide he was evil all along after the players dispose of his other villains quicker than he anticipated. My guess is that Mace and Anakin beheading Jango and Dooku respectively were Off the Rails events with both dying earlier than the GM intended, and the Grievous arc was also supposed to drag much longer. So he ran out of villains and decided to pull a retroactive twist on one of the good guys.
- Actually, if you pay close attention, you can see that the Separatists - particularly Count Dooku - know Palpatine is an evil Sith lord and that's why they want to rebel against the Republic. Dooku's been trying to tell the PCs for several weeks now, they just won't listen.
- I've said for YEARS that the Separatists should have been for the most part genuinely well intentioned (if duped by Dooku and with nasty backing) and after their defeat turned into the Rebel Alliance. Now we have the chance to see the story as I would have written it! (PS: the Separatists and Republic are fighting because the Sith lords, who wind up in charge either way, want to see whether droid or clone armies are more badass)
- Canonically, most surviving Separatist hold-outs did join the Rebel Alliance, once it formed, so obviously parts of the Separatist movement were genuinely well-intentioned but duped (just as many Republic loyalists were genuinely well-intentioned but duped).
- Are you saying you'd inflict the holiday special on the guys who make the comic? Monster!
- No, he's saying they'd inflict the holiday special on us.
- What if the GM (Sally, in her first go as GM) actually make it a kick-ass black comedy/dramatic campaign about living as an alien in a repressive, stupidly-petty, human-centric police state, a la Paranoia? Sally's love of journalism, seen during Revenge of the Sith's campaign, can explain all the weird infomercials, bad TV programs, and shitty music numbers. They're all part of her Crazy Awesome satire of the media.
- No, he's saying they'd inflict the holiday special on us.
Boba will be after Luke, not Han.Boba had three possible candidates on his hit-list: Anakin, for causing the death of his mother, Obi-Wan, for causing the death of his birth father, and Mace, for causing the death of the man that raised him. He won't be able to exact revenge on either of the latter two due to dying at others' hands, and canonically, by the time the Original Trilogy comes around, only a handful of characters ever knew he was Anakin Skywalker. Meaning Boba would not even know that Darth Vader is a person he wants revenge on. However, he hears of Luke's exploits at the Battle of Yavin, sees his name is Skywalker, correctly concludes that he is Anakin's son, and goes to seek revenge on him for his father's actions. The reason he captures Han is to lure Luke (much like Vader did), but he transferred Han to a place more advantageous to him before telling Luke he's got Han hostage, not knowing that Luke is already heading to Cloud City to rescue him.
- Jossed. Boba is after Obi-Wan, who he believes is still alive and wants to find out his whereabouts from Han.
- Sally has a bigger budget.
The players will run a The Force Unleashed campaign after episode III.
- Jim and Annie will be away on honeymoon.
- Pete will play Starkiller. How else do you explain the power discrepancy between Starkiller and every other Jedi?
- Sally will play Proxy. Technically only one character, but still lets her switch personalities when bored.
- Ben will play Juno, and get revenge on Pete for stealing the spotlight by repeatedly embarrassing him with attempts to romance Starkiller.
The aftereffects of Mace Windu's Heroic B.S.O.D. include going completely off the deep end, and an intentional Heroic R.R.O.D..Because how else could you go from "I will never kill again" to stabbing the seated chancellor in the face with a lightsaber?
Mace Windu's Heroic B.S.O.D. will be RetConned by the DM to have been caused by Jango's "a million clones hear a lone voice cry out in terror and be suddenly silenced" failsafe.Because the backlash of a sentient's death being broadcast straight by you to millions of other beings can really get to you, and this shouldn't be the first time that Mace has taken a life in battle within the D&D continuity.
The Jedi misinterpreted the prophecy.In Episode 146 the commentary mentions the confusion over what "bringing balance to the Force" means. Towards the end of Return of the Jedi, the correct interpretation will be brought back, perhaps explained by the Emperor.
It will eventually be revealed that, sometime between the second and third prequel arcs, Jar Jar Binks became a cyborg and joined the Separatists, becoming General Grievous.I had the Jar Jar / Grievous theory since I read the third prequel novelization. Both are generals, both aliens, both helped Darth Sideous's plans without knowing it. The lower arms, when detached from the top, would be under computer control.
- Jossed. Chancellor Valorum becomes Grievous.
Ben and Jim will be surprised to find out Annie has been Chaotic Neutral all along.Of course the GM knew the entire time. But Ben and Jim thought she was a good guy, when all along she has only been serving her own interests, which will come back and bite them in the asses in Episode III.
Anakin's fall to the dark side is running parallel to Annie becoming more munchkin like.Recently, Annie seems to be focusing more on stats and such than the role-play aspect. Also, in episode three, Pete, feeling outcast by the rest of the group, will take on the part of Palpatine, just so he can make them suffer. Palpatine's guiding and corruption of Anakin reflects the same of Pete and Annie. Meanwhile, Jim has started to love actual role-play, thus he'll decide to impregnate Padmé for the sake of Drama. Finally, by the end of the series, no one will fit the same niche as they started. GM will become the The Brain, Jim The Thespian, Annie the Munchkin, Pete The Loonie, Ben The Real Man, and Sally the GM.
- Judging by some of the recent strips, this WMG has very strong support. Anakin seems to be playing both sides, Jim has been working on his roleplaying, and Annie seems to be much more aware of the meta-game and such.
Anakin will turn to the Dark Side to kill Padmé.We know of the author's changing up of canon material, we know there is some tension between Annie and Jim, and we know in the original, Anakin became dark to save Padmé. So why not the opposite?
- And when he/she does succeed, some thing goes horribly wrong and results in Jim's character being resurrected as Luke.
The twins won't be named during Episode III...So nobody will know that Luke and Leia are related to Anakin and Padmé until The Reveal in Episode V, just like in the movies. Jim will probably find some way to lampshade it: "Yeah, I'm going to spend the last of my strength coming up with names instead of, y'know, not dying. Pete, hand me that die, will you?"
- Jossed. She did with some of her last words.
Mace Windu is the traitorDarths and Droids love inverting these tropes, so why not have Anakin protecting Palpatine?
Order 66 will be the result of a secondary fail-safe installed in the clones by JangoConsidering his grudge against the Jedi, it would make sense for him to set up a fail-safe that's both impossible to stop, and offs as many of his enemies as possible. The only real question would be what causes this fail-safe to activate in the first place.
- Considering Annie-kin's gambit to turn Palpatine against the Jedi Council has just Gone Horribly Right, the Chancellor may still give Order 66 himself.
Anakin is the Sith Lord who has infiltrated the Republic.Maybe this is a bit extreme, but there doesn't seem to be any reason whatsoever to expect Palpatine really being the Big Bad. What if Anakin is actually the villain, and has been studying Sith teachings in the Jedi Library, or something to that effect?
Padmé will become Vader and Anakin will become the Emperor.Or at least, they'll throw things for a loop by making Vader and the Emperor someone completely different. As it is now, only Anakin and Padmé have been particularly power hungry. Everyone else have been essentially pawns of the two.
- Possibly confirmed about Padme becoming Vader. At least, unless Vader is lying or delusional.
Palpatine actually becomes Anakin's apprentice Sith.Annie's offscreen discussions with the GM were about Anakin actually being the tribute-to-the-legends Sith Lord. Anakin will manipulate Mace Windu (who never knows what's actually going on) into attacking Palpatine to convince the Chancellor to become his Sith apprentice to stop the "corrupt" Jedi. Anakin will keep Palpatine in place as Emperor, though, because he's "an important symbol to the citizens of the" Empire.
- Everything except Palpatine becoming Anakin's Sith apprentice has been confirmed.
Anakin becomes Vader... but none of the the players know it.The GM gets everyone to believe that Anakin dies on Mustafar after the battle with Obi-Wan. Vader is an NPC (at least for A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back), Annie plays as Luke; the GM reveals at Cloud City that Vader is actually Annie's old character.
- Jossed. Annie plays as Leia while Vader is an NPC first. Then Annie takes over Vader, making all the players believe Vader is Anakin. Then in Cloud City she reveals that Vader is actually Padmé.
Anakin becomes Vader... but Vader doesn't know it.Vader/Anakin loses his memory after Mustafar. The players - or maybe just whoever plays Luke - figures it out before Cloud City, and that classic scene is actually Luke revealing to Vader that Vader is Luke's father, and was once a Jedi etc.
- Jossed. Anakin never becomes Vader... Padmé does.
Sallies campaign will be Knights of the Old RepublicInstead of doing a direct sequel to the campaign that The GM was running she would make a distant prequel where the Jedi are still alive and they are fighting a war against an army of the Sith. The plot of Knights of the Old Republic suits itself really well for a young DM's campaign since it is basically a McGuffin hunt but has enough Crazy Awesome moments and characters to suit her character. The campaign would just start with Jim as Revan and Ben as Carth. As the campaign went along more players would come in to play the various party members with of course Pete being playing HK-47. After they are done with the plot of Knights of the Old Republic they would probably stop for a little while but a year or two later Sally will make a campaign for KoTOR 2 explaining that campaign as being much Darker and Edgier as her getting a little older.
Yoda and Palpatine will swap bodies.I just came up with this idea because...well, who doesn't want to see Sally running the empire?
The "dreadnought" that R2 lent to Obi-Wan that's still on Tattooine is the Millenium FalconWhat other ships are there on the planet?
- Jossed. Mos Eisley is built from the ruins of the dreadnaught.
It will turn out that Pete's dreadnought is that one ship that appears to have landed nose-first in Mos Eisley
- Confirmed! Although really, what else were they going to do?
Admiral Ackbar will be an elderly Jar Jar Binks
Adam Lars is Adam LarsAdam Lars that the characters see is actually Adam Lars, son of Owen & Beru, not Luke Skywalker. Luke died while he and Adam were growing up, perhaps not surviving the development of the character sheet.
Beru and Owen are still aliveThey're so crazy prepared that they killed anyone (besides Adam) who could recognize them and then faked their deaths. This certainly wouldn't be the first time that the writers have greatly expanded characters who were killed off in a matter of minutes in the movies.
Vader let Adam blow the Peace Moon upIt doesn't seem likely that he'd stop politicking just because all his plans were horribly ruined. This time he's just using a rebellion to wipe out the Senate.
Luke's obsession with fulfilling the quest Owen and Beru gave him will span the rest of the trilogyThat funeral pyre is for melting the droids down, in addition to cremating Vader's remains.
The spread-spectrum black-body alpha wave suppressor Pete gives Corey will be important laterI'm not sure how yet, but it seems rather McGuffin-y.
- Perhaps "Con, cen, TRAAATE!"
The Underwater Oxygen Extraction Apparatus and Grappling Hook are Chekhov's GunsThus Luke survives being pulled under in the garbage compressor and later can swing across that gap with Leia.
- Well, the dianoga just pulled Luke under, so we'll see if half of this is confirmed or disconfirmed this Thursday.
- And now we're at the gap...
The Darth Vader who kills Obi-Wan will really be Boba Fett in disguise.
- After all, he's the one with the motivation, and the Darth Vader suit is the perfect disguise. Besides, Jango Fett disguised himself as a droid once. Who's to say his adoptive son can't disguise himself as a cyborg?
Dooku is Tarkin's father
- Dooku says that Anakin is like his teenage son, in that he's quite rebellious. Tarkin tells Vader that his father didn't care for his rebellious ways as a teenager. Neither is really evil; they just end up working with the villains due to no fault of their own. And to really drive the point home, they're both FRENCH!
- Well, not French French. Space French.
Luke's realization that he kissed his own sister will be the cause of the Big "NO!"
- Being Darth Vader's son will be a minor preoccupation at that moment.
The Lost Orb will be retrieved in Episode IV the same way it was in Episode I.That is to say, by blowing up the spacecraft on which it is held. If it was explosion-proof last time, it should still be explosion-proof this time.
- The Imperials will probably steal it back at Hoth then. OR Han takes it...
Vader's informant is Han Solo!
- At the start of a session the GM notes that Jim is running late and they should start without him. Obviously this is their reason for why Han shows up to the battle over the Death Star at the last minute, right? Well what if that's just a red herring? Vader mentions in the same strip that he has an informant who told him the rebels are launching their fighters. Maybe Han is (for the moment) playing both sides. Maybe he'll regret his actions and save Luke, or maybe that's still an elaborate cover. Maybe this will go on into Empire Strikes Back and Han deliberately leads the others into the trap on Cloud City. Who could have been conspiring with Annie all along. One way or another, the players will be stunned by how good Jim's roleplaying has become.
R2-D2 is Vader's informant.
- After all, it would be just like Pete to try to appropriate the Peace Moon, and you can't exactly take control of something if it's been destroyed by the rebellion!
The "Ghost" on the Peace Moon is Pete/R2.The Clone Troopers are all afraid of rumors of a "ghost" on the Peace Moon that keeps making wonky things happen. This will end up being the result of Pete's repeated attempts to install a backdoor into the Peace Moon's systems. Ultimately this will cause a fatal system crash on the Peace Moon and be the real reason it blows up. Pete did all of this completely by accident and will react with a Big "NO!" when the GM tells him what happened because he wanted to capture the Peace Moon and use its power, not destroy it.
Wedge is secretly Boba FettWe learn in Episode IV that Wedge is a shape-shifter, and they've already established that in the D&D universe Boba Fett is the son of shape-shifter Zam Wessel. It wouldn't be the first time the Irregulars turned two canon characters into a single comic character.
Vader's informant is LandoInstead of being an old friend of Han's Lando will be reworked into a rebel spy undercover on Bespin. He will be revealed to be the traitor and then have his change of heart. Since Luke has been so adamant about finding the traitor, this will make things more ironic when he ends up being saved by Lando.
The Traitor is a Random NPCSpecifically, the one who gives him a different rendezvous point, just to play with the expectations of the readers and surprise them with an unmemorable individual being the one responsible for so much.
- The general idea is still sound, but in that strip, Luke was the one giving the wrong redezvous point to Wedge.
The "Luke, I Am Your Father" scene will be turned on its headVader thinks Luke killed his son and took his name, and now Luke knows Vader is his father. So naturally, the iconic scene will end up being Luke telling Vader that he is his son.
- Confirmed! ...And then taken in a very unexpected direction in the next strip.
In Luke's confrontation with Vader and the Emperor, he will turn to the Dark SideWe know that Palpatine will use Force Drain on Luke, which comes right after Luke defeating and dehanding Vader. Palpatine will realise this is his chance to wipe out the Sith once and for all, and Vader, not wanting his legacy to end, will kill Palpatine. Luke will return to Endor as the second Dark Lord of the Sith, prepared to pass on his teachings to a new generation of Force users.
C-3PO is the traitorSally has been acting odd lately with her "droid empowerment" thing. It could just be covering up the fact that she's the traitor everyone's been looking for.
Vader will perform a proper Force Disintegration on Palpatine.According to this strip, Vader rediscovered Force Disintergrate and assumed it was a new power, but she did it wrong. At the climax of the final storyline, she will get it right and use it to destroy Palpatine.
Endor is actually a suicide missionWith the reveal of Han being the traitor, the mission to take out the shield generator in Endor is more so a chance to have him killed off by the Rebel leaders. The rest of the gang are also on the chopping block since they rescued Han from Jabba despite knowing what he did.
Despite what Annie said...
- Vader is actually Anakin after all, and Padmé really was the one that died. Annie and the GM could have just been lying when they said Vader was Padmé.
In Episode VII, the Map Won't Lead to LukeWhen the campaign gets to Episode VII, the map that everyone is trying to get a hold of won't lead to Luke. It will lead to the Lost Orb of Phanastacoria because the party is still trying to find it after having lost it again when the Peace Moon II blows up.
In Episode VII, Kylo Ren will be a confident, secure, well-adjusted antagonist.Because after Jar Jar, Palpatine, Anakin, and Padme, it's obvious someone's going to be portrayed completely opposite to canon.
When they do "The Force Awakens", Snoke will be Nute GunrayIt's unlikely that they will wrap up the plot with him in the old trilogy, and since we only see Snoke as a hologram they could easily change that to him literally being just a hologram.
The ship Rey ravages in the beginning of The Force Awakens is Pete's dreadnaught.While most parts of it were used to build Mos Eisley, she's raiding the leftovers. Even better if Rey is played by Pete who wants to restart his dreadnaught.
In A Universe the Players Inhabit WMGs
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on Dungeons & Dragons.Because where can you go from there?
- Nah, it would look too much like DM of the Rings. Plus, the film sucks waaaaaaay more than anything they've used so far combined.
- My guess is that the original guess meant the game, not the movie.
The nested strips will eventually finish on a screencap comic which uses faked screencaps from a nonexistent movie.The last line of the rant will be "The Comics Irregulars exist and are making a screencap comic based on Star Wars."
- Already done with this Comments on a Postcard strip. You don't remember the movie Comments on a Postcard? There you go.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on The Lord Of The Rings.And it will link to DM Of The Rings.
The nested 'in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually continue on The Matrix and Pirates of the Caribbean.I'm honestly shocked that I'm the first person to think of this.
- Confirmed on both counts!
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on the internet.And it will be a 404 Error: Not Found page.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will continue from the 404 Error: Not Found page to a world where the Internet does not exist.
350's "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist", they will show a bit from the Princess Bride campaign.
- Seeing as 349's and 319's strips have almost confirmed that the campaign that took place between Episodes I and II is indeed Princess Bride, 350 will show a bit of what happened in that campaign.
- Jossed, but it was a good shot.
- The Princess Bride could still show up in a later one, though. Of course, it would probably be different from the one in the Darths and Droids universe, as it would include Sally and Annie like the rest of the alternate universes do.
- Then again, maybe not- the Jaws one didn't have either of those two, just Ben, Jim, and Pete.
- And the Muppets one had Sally as the GM.
- Jossed, but it was a good shot.
In the universe the players inhabit, George Lucas never crashed his car.When he was young, Lucas wanted to be a race car driver, but he almost died in a car crash and went on to becoming a director instead. In the comic's universe, the reason Star Wars does not exist is because George Lucas never crashed his car and never decided not to become a racer, so he's a race car driver now.
- But didn't one of the captions say Harrison Ford is well known for playing Indiana Jones within the Darths & Droids universe?
The strips will eventually end with a screen cap comic based on a non-existent or unreleased work then say that in that universe Star Wars doesn't exist
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on Irregular Webcomic.This would mean that The Comic Irregulars don't exist, and thus cannot create a screencap comic based on another work.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will continue on to Top GearBuilding on a WMG on the Top Gear page, the presenters of that show are very RPG character-ish, and one could even figure out who'd play what:
- Jim-the impulsive Jeremy Clarkson (Hammer=Summon Bigger Fish?)
- Ben-the Only Sane Man James May
- Pete-the Stig (again taking Mute in exchange for phenomenal speed)
- Either Sally or Annie-Richard Hammond. Sally would fit a bit better though, with Richard's excitable nature and tendency to name cars.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will continue on to Kamen Rider Dragon Knight.They're going to run out of Western media to spoof eventually, and DK has plenty of action spots for everyone.
- Jim is Kit/Dragon Knight, the impulsive hero who doesn't know what the hell's going on (because he didn't pay attention to the GM's backstory). He tries to get a more powerful deck, but accidentally picks up the one the GM intended to be DK's Evil Twin.
- Ben is Len/Wing Knight, who actually did read the backstory and was rewarded by being made the savvy mentor and the Batman-esque badass (and he gets teased for giving his character a name that's one letter off his real name, even though he insists it was a coincidence).
- Annie is JTC/Torque, the mysterious, overly dramatic and morally ambiguous "tweener".
- Sally is Maya, mirroring her interest in reporting; initially she'd think the "spandex superheroes" thing is stupid, but starts feeling left out and the others convince the GM to make her a Rider too, resulting in him (reluctantly) derailing his plot by killing off Kace/Siren and handing her deck to Maya.
- Pete is Vic/Wrath, the most overpowered Rider in the story. In the interest of Min-Maxing, he takes a bunch of defects like Amnesia, which the GM is cleverly manipulating to make Wrath into The Dragon (which Pete doesn't really mind). For some reason, he's also convinced that if he beats the other eleven Riders, he'll be granted a wish.
D&D is not the top level.There are two (at least) higher-level webcomics based on The Princess Bride and Twilight.
This universe is what would happen if Pete were GMing.Everyone has to be that Minmaxed just to survive the campaign.
- Jossed. According to the Cast link at the top of the page, it's the usual GM; Pete is the Tin Man.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually continue on to Ralph Bakshi's The Lord Of The Rings.
Eventually a game will take place in Game of Thrones.
- Simply because it's the easiest way to explain the sheer mess that is Westeros.
The final "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will be based on religions and ancient myth.Thank about it, what are the oldest sources of tropes?
- The fourth-to-last meta-fic will take place in a world where the New Testament never existed.
- The third-to-last meta-fic will take place in a world where the Old Testament never took place.
- The second-to-last metafic will take place in a world where Classical Mythology never took place.
- The final metafic will take place in a world where NOTHING existed. It is revealed that the universe was created by people playing a tabletop RPG.
Differences in the "Ids & Idiots" universe.Let's break our guesses down one by one:
- What is the "_____balls" documentary?
- Who in the film got a breakout role in the first Futurama film?
- What was one of the actors primarily known for?
- What was the subject matter of nerdy YouTube videos?
- What never got a revival?
- What was never made into a film?
- What influenced Western culture in place of Forbidden Planet?
- What were the greatest Hollywood blockbusters in Forbidden Planet's time frame?
In this universe, Moonraker does eventually get made - it just isn't about space travel.The authors state that in the Darths & Droids universe, 'Moonraker was never made. James Bond fans never had it so good.' I suggest that in this universe, the 1979 space-travel film was never made, but subsequently, Moonraker will be made as the first Bond movie to be set entirely in Britain, and to feature a heroine who decides not to have sex with James Bond. This will inspire a series of other Ian Fleming adaptations:
- The Spy Who Loved Me is a Bottle Episode thriller about a woman defending herself against two mobsters in an isolated American motel. James Bond does not appear until near the end.
- Octopussy is about a war criminal drinking himself to death to avoid facing up to the fact that his ill-gotten gains have not brought him peace. James Bond plays a cameo role as the detective investigating what really happened all those years back.
- Quantum of Solace is a serious drama about a marriage going sour. James Bond does not appear, as his presence in the Framing Device of the book was irrelevant to the plot.
The last nested universe will be based on Real LifeThe players will play the roles of the Comic Irregulars in their attempt to make a screencap webcomic.
- ...Hey! We've got three comics left to guess this stuff, so start guessing already!
- Two more comics...
- This is your last chance to guess the differences in the universe, so cash in now!
- I was going to propose something about Big Trouble in Little China but it seems moot at this juncture... at least until they start on Rogue One.
Time Skip Campaign WMGs
The DM from DM of the Rings published his setting......and it's the "low-magic fantasy campaign" they play between Episodes 1 and 2.
- Jossed. The campaign is described in Episode 260, and it is mentioned that if it were a Lord of the Rings campaign it would have been far better.
The fantasy campaign was The Princess Bride... from the perspective of Vizzini, Fezzik and Ignio Montoya.In 260 we're told Jim was a barbarian (Fezzik), they were on "an important mission from the King" (with the twists DMM puts to the source material, they were probably working for Prince Humperdink), and they were stalked by the captain of the "ninja pirates" (Dread Pirate Roberts). In Episode 316, we learn there was a Miracle Man who Jim got to resurrect a character Pete thought was "unimportant" (Westley; he wasn't a PC, so how important could he have been?)
- Minor nitpick: in the source material, those three are already working for Prince Humperdink.
- So the theory works even better!
- Above suggestions seem to almost be confirmed. In 319, we gain a bit more insight. The pirate ninja got away with the princess, who was his True Love. The roles appear to be Pete: Vizinni, Jim: Fezzik, and Ben: Inigo Montoya.
- 30 pages later and there is more insight. Pete said that his character was poisoned and that they were hired to fake a kidnapping so is to gain public sympathy for a war against the neighbouring kingdom.
- Page 406 reveals that the pirate-ninja who killed Pete had an "immunity to Iocaine powder."
- And...confirmed. Page 410 spells it out.
- So the theory works even better!
The game that Pete's pissed off about was a game version of The Princess Bride
- Evidence. Pete's demise was, shall we say, inconceivable.
- I'd say this is more or less confirmed.
- Jim plays Lady Eboshi, since now he repents of having neglectfully killed monsters that didn't deserve it.
- Ben, thoughtful roleplayer, who tries to negociate peace, plays Ashitaka. He negociated Ashitaka's Cruise Missile arrows with Annie as a side effect of the curse.
- Pete plays Jigo. He took short, old, fat and ugly as flaws in order to unlock "incredible ninja skills" and "personal army of ninja retainers". He was supposed to get the head of the forest god for the emperor. Annie planned on him betraying his master to side with the PCs, but he decided to betray everyone and keep the head in order for his character to become immortal. He was mostly angry that Ben ditched his character after their first encounter.
- Sally played Moro on occasion, wanting to eat the humans. She is responsible for the description of the "gods", and the Scenery Porn. "The forest god is a deer, with chicken legs, and a baboon face that turns into a giant at night". She also played San, and that explains why Ben was so protective of her.
- The GM didn't play in this campaign, he was to busy with exams and preparing the next instalment of Darths & Droids.
Annie's campaign follows the story of Night of the Living Dead.A downer campaign contrary to player expectations, combined with the stuff about curing monster bites... it's gonna be official pretty soon.
- So, in the D&D Universe, Annie invented zombies?!?
Annie's campaign was Pokemon.Pete describes it as a "monster-hunter" campaign, & she got mad at Jim for killing all the monsters...because he was supposed to catch them. The "curing bites" business was probably a Poison attack.
Annie's campaign was Call of Cthulhu
Annie's campaign was Van HelsingStrip 552 drops the heaviest hints yet. The campaign involved vampires, werewolves and Frankenstein's monster; Pete's character killed them all. Near the end it was randomly revealed that Pete was the Archangel Gabriel.
- It's starting to look like a mixture of a couple different things, including freakin' Twilight.
Jim was banned from laser swords because......he cut himself shaving (as in, cut his own head off). We're pretty sure the third offscreen campaign was Dark Forces if the name "Kyle Katarn" is anything to go by, and I noticed this previous nod to Dark Forces when skimming the trope page recently. It sounds like something Jim would try that would then go Horribly Wrong.
- Spoke too soon - a strip or two later, Jim describes Katarn's death as a Heroic Sacrifice. It might still have to do with why Jim can't use laser swords anymore, but it looks like a shaving accident is out.
Ben will figure out Vader's identity.But he won't tell anyone this because he won't realize it until after Obi-Wan Kenobi has died. Thus, any new character he creates will not have the knowledge Obi-Wan would. Ben, being a firm believer in keeping player knowledge and character knowledge separate, will be unable to reveal this in-story.
Jim's campaign was Firefly
- Annie would be good as the troubled, slightly shell-shocked Captain Mal, Pete would be the beefy, big-gun-wielding Jayne or the nerdy Ace Pilot Wash, and Sally would frankly be an epic Kaylee.
Jim's one-shot in #775 was Catch-22#775 mentions a shellshocked pilot (Pete as Yossariannote ), another pilot (The GM, possibly as Nately or Orr), a doctor who didn't want to be a doctor (Sally as Daneeka), and a nurse (Annie possibly as Nurse Duckett). (Although calling Nately's whore's knifeplay "fencing" is probably overstating it a bit.)
- Alas, they've pretty well spilled the beans on this one now. Bad news is, it's not Catch-22. Good news is, it's Airplane!
- And now, Jim's adventure plan has been published, detailing Jim's Airplane!-based game.
Ben's campaign between Episode IV and Episode VSo Ben ran a campaign while Jim and Annie were away in Los Angeles. Here are the details we know about it thus far:
- Episode 920: Idle Hands: After the campaign, Pete wanted to do something light for a change.
- 988: Re-LAX has more allusions. Pete was a (apparently very busted) super-intelligent martial artist with extra lifespan.
- 1023: Toad Away mentions that Pete released a bunch of NPCs to help them and that they "soaked up a lot of damage" and that it was a crime-fighting campaign.
- Okay, wild guess: Ben's campaign was The Avengers, and Pete was either Captain America ("Extra Lifespan") or Black Widow ("super-intelligent martial artist").
- I'm thinking The Dark Knight Rises now. Pete was probably Catwoman.
- Or Batman. It makes sense for the minmaxer to become Batman.
- Alternatively, Batman Begins with Pete playing Ra's Al Ghul
- New clues: 1094: All in the Mind: Sally was a clown and Corey was a superpowered criminal psychologist.
- Oh crap Sally was the Joker how could they let this happen. (And Corey was Scarecrow. Also, that means they probably did the whole Dark Knight trilogy.)
- As of #1123, I think we can confirm Dark Knight Saga: the GM was a DA (who'd be Two-Face) and they were committing crimes to lure out a vigilante (who'd be Batman). The prior description of Pete's character could fit Bane as well as Ra's, but if he was Ra's then there's an odd absence of certain villains so I'll throw out another theory: the prior campaign was only Batman Begins and Dark Knight; they'll pick it up again once Empire Strikes Back is over and do Dark Knight Rises with Jim and Annie joining as Bane and Catwoman.
- The following comic reveals Ben originally wanted it to be in the style of the 60's Batman TV show, but it ended with the vigilante sacrificing himself to save the city from a nuclear bomb. This confirms it as being the entire trilogy. It's likely that Pete rolled up a new character after Ra's Al Ghul's death.
Sally's campaign between Episode V and Episode VIHere's what we know so far:
- 1208: Tone of Violence mentions a Robot Utopia campaign, presumably Sally's.
- 1251: Droid Droid Revolution, Corey notes the droid uprising went badly for the humans, which Sally defended as humans were oppressors creating slaves for their own amusement.
- 1380: I Have an (Electric) Dream Corey said that it was a literal zoo for the humans. It also took place on an island, which none of them could escape from because none of them could fly.
- It might be Robot Land from Astro Boy
- An earlier clue: 1357: Dressed to Kill: The robots min-maxed and traded arms for bite strength.
- 1397: I caught a rare Wookieecuu: Corey is planning a campaign following on from hers that is based on Big guns. It will possibly include bigger guns.
- 1467: Ladies and Lentil-men: There was a little-girl hacker who "turned the fences back on", and the party were playing as "robot dinosaurs".
Corey's campaign between Episode VI and VII
- We know it involved lots of guns, and that "it was. . . different," the players apparently almost didn't make it, but did triumph in the end, probably due to some GM fiat by Corey. Die Hard, anyone? Corey fudging the rules and the rolls might explain how John McClane survived all that.
Annie's Relationships WMGs
Annie is dating Ben.It's why they have BOTH been so evasive about her being single with the other players.
- And with the "Ben will be Lando" guess, Lando's Face–Heel Turn, and Ben and Anakin falling out between films III and IV... This has some interesting implications. Mainly, that Ben will become Good Guy Lando late in their Ross and Rachel issues, and turn after they make up.
Anne and Ben will hook up via the RPGBut there will be angst, and "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!" will ensue.
Annie ends up in a love triangle with Jim and BenFits perfectly with Anakin being torn between the Jedi and Padmé, and his eventual rejection of both.
Annie is dating the GM.Seriously. How could we get through a comic about RPGs without invoking Dungeonmaster's Girlfriend? It's been love since first GM Note. "We worked it out together" indeed.
Jim and Annie will date for a while between Episode II and III, but will break up shortly before the new campaign begins.This will provide much comic tension when they return to their now married characters. If no other reason, it'll make a much better explanation than what really happened in the film.
- Or not confirmed, they were just fighting over a misunderstanding.
Jim and Annie's relationship will remain troubled.Sure, they'll make up during this adventure, but then they'll fall out again and she'll kill him. Things will get increasingly petty between them, with Jim's space pirate shooting Annie's ship down in the next adventure, and Annie then torturing him and turning him into a human popsicle. Meanwhile, Ben will have switched to playing Leia after the death of Obi-Wan, leaving Jim somewhat confused by the opening to Jedi...
Annie is pregnant with Jim's babyThink about it: Annie is upset with Jim. As of strip 440 she says she needs to talk to him about it, meaning it is something he did but doesn't know it. Jim lets real life situations affect his character, explaining why Padmé is pregnant in ROTS. AND if Annie decides to keep the baby it will probably make her more emotional, explaining Anakin's mood swings.
- This could mesh with the news that Annie lost her job. Jim will feel responsible for supporting the baby, and Annie's guilt (heightened by the hormones) will drive her to try to find a way to save Padmé.
- Pete seems to have noticed.
The game will be interrupted because Annie goes into labor.I dunno, just that it'd be hilarious with everyone panicking and watch, Sally will be the level-headed one.
- Mid-session? Doubtful. Why not a hospital?
Annie and Jim will return from his job, marriedThey seem to have progressed pretty far already.
The story is Imperial propagandaJust look at its portrayal of the Jedi, and Qui-Gon in particular. Or Palpatine's predecessor, for that matter. KNEEL BEFORE VALORUM!
- This is let down by his earlier comments, along with "I call for ice cream!"
- On the contrary, it just makes the eventual rise of Palpatine even more of a blessing. An autocratic leaning Valorum is bad enough, but an insane one? Bring on the Empire.
One of the people who makes the comic is here on this page, planting all these theories as foreshadowing for what is to comeJust wait. Soon more and more of these theories will become canon...
- Well DMM is a troper.
- Maybe he's the one who posted this WMG...
- Iffy since I contacted him and got permission to make a trope based on something I read in one of the strips. He didn't think to do it himself, it seems. Maybe he is a troper, but not a contributor/editor?
One of the Comic Irregulars added the previous WMG to deflect attention from the ones that will turn out to be true...
- LIES! That not true, that's impossible!
WeThey would never do such a thing!
A sixth person will join the group at some point.Since there are six main good characters in the original trilogy (Luke, Leia, Han, Chewy, C-3PO, and R2-D2), this means that a sixth person will probably join the group at some point, accounting for the six original trilogy characters. If they join in the prequel trilogy part, they'll probably take over Mace Windu or Yoda.
- Especially if Sally continues her habit playing background NPCs.
- Well, Ben has gone missing, but Naïve Newcomer Corey, Pete's nephew, has arrived. He will probably become Luke.
Record of Lodoss War will be mentioned at some point.One of the players will bring up the idea of adapting their current game sessions the way Ryo Mizuno did, possibly leading to a Who Would Want to Watch Us? moment.
Pete usurped the substitute GM position.Ben has a point: why would the GM trust him to run things while he was gone, particularly since he's seen how Pete is with his 'I'm Better Than You' attitude regarding Artoo? He certainly couldn't be trusted to follow the GM's notes. Perhaps the GM had called Pete, explained the family emergency, and asked Pete to either call the others to call off that week's session or tell Ben to substitute as GM: a wiser choice, considering he's known Ben longer and can trust him and Obi-Wan was currently out of commission. But Pete, being Pete, lied and said the GM asked him to sub, giving him the reign of terror seen now.
- Apparently Jossed, given that the original GM was not surprised at all to know that Pete had stood in for him.
The die that failed to stabilize Qui-Gon is a Chekhov's Gun.The ultra-luck granted to it by rolling four 1's in a row will pay off in the future. The distant future. Namely, this die will be the one that rolls the 20 that kills the Death Star. Peace Moon. Whatever.
- Jossed: If Pete's remarked about the dice is the truth.
Annie planned Anikin's entire fall and RotJ redemptionHer notes on his character are longer than the DM's preparation, and probably are filled with exactly how his painful childhood has warped him.
Annie is BritishShe calls gas "petrol".
- It's also called "petrol" in Australia. The author is Australian, so this may simply be evidence that the game is played in Australia somewhere.
- There are a number of other Britishisms in the comic, spoken by several players, so this is probably just the Australian author thing.
- Pretty much confirmed, considering L.A. is an "Overseas" job.
- That could still apply if everyone was Australian, however.
Annie will die in childbirthIt's either that or become Darth Vader.
Star Wars did exist, but only A New Hope was released as an obscure B-Movie.When they recreate Episode IV, the GM will realize that the Peace Moon/Death Star seemed a little too familiar until one of the players points out an obscure B-Movie with that exact same concept.
Anakin won't go dark sideDooku has been trying to get the Jedi to help him, and that Palpatine is evil. Ben will start to believe Dooku, while Annie will choose to believe Palpatine, thus driving them into conflict. Both will think the other is evil, but neither of them actually will be, although one will be an unwitting pawn to either Palpatine or Dooku. If Dooku is evil, Obi-Wan will go into exile in shame, and later atone by training, and dying for, Anakin's son. Palpatine and the badly disfigured Anakin will form the Empire for noble reasons, but will have been corrupted by power by A New Hope.
- Alternativly, Obi-Wan and Padmé will have an affair, and that's what the fight will be about. Luke and Leia are actually Obi-Wan's children, and Obi-Wan will return to teach his son the ways of the force.
- Obi-Wan doesn't have to "return", since the only evidence that Ben was hiding and not, say, meditating in the desert was Leia's "Helpmeobiwankenobiyou'remyonlyhope", which is dialogue, so easily scrapped. For the full theory, see Luke Kenobi, below.
Anakin won't become Darth VaderCount Dooku recently mentioned he has a son, who is very like Anakin. In the final battle on Mustafar, Anakin will simply be killed, but not resurrected as Vader. Instead, Vader will be Dooku's son, who declares vengeance on Obi-Wan for his part in his father's death. (And will, of course, get it in A New Hope.) This is more likely if Dooku is indeed telling the truth. The GM seems to love making the players suffer for their wrong choices.
- I agree with the first part of this theory, about Anakin dying, but Vader will not be Dooku's son. He will be Boba Fett. He was foreshadowed so much that he must have a larger role in episodes 4-6 than what he had in the originals. That will be the revelation at the end of Episode V. The screencap of movie Fett will be a random bounty hunter, or involve another plot twist.
- Agreed very much. See Luke Kenobi, below.
- Vader being Dooku's son seems to have been Jossed.
- Not if Anakin does become Vader.
- This is definitely in-bounds, since they've done the reverse with Valorum: a cyborg shows up, and in Darths and Droids it's the reincarnation of an established character where in the movies it wasn't.
- At the very least Darth Vader claims not to have been Anakin. Darth Vader, with the help of a flashback, claims to be Padme.
- Here's how it goes: In-game, Obi-Wan and Padmé had an affair, and she got pregnant. This is what caused Anakin to kill her, which in turn causes Obi-Wan to kill him (yes, he dies in the volcanic planet). Cut to the future, Obi-Wan and his son, Luke, live in Mad-Max world. They may live with the Skywalkers due to Obi-Wan's guilt for failing to raise Anakin properly and eventually killing him, but they may just never call their roommates' names. And Obi-Wan isn't hiding or anything, he just happened to have been contemplating life in the desert when R2 arrived, and has a very good relationship with his son, which goes sour when said son decides to become a Jedi. And Leia is not Luke's sister, though she may well be an ex or something.
- On the evil side, Boba Fett was originaly intended to come back for vengeance against Obi-Wan for killing his parents. Remember that Jango says "Obi-Wan killed both your parents". Anakin isn't on the kid's radar. Except, the PCs kill him on sight. Then the GM remembers that the family had contacts with the cloners, and says "what the hell, that guy was a clone, HERE is the real one. But he dies again. After enough clones, he decides that Boba did not turn into a bounty hunter. Instead, he is Darth Vader himself, and the "clones" are actually elite imperial soldiers, whose uniforms are designed after that of the only father Boba/Vader knew.
Valorum will become the Emperor in the Original TrilogyIt's going to be really hard to establish Palpatine to be a good guy now and suddenly shift him to be...er, evil for the next 3 movies unless either something drastic happens to him, or Valorum got mind-transferred into Palpatine's body...unless DMM plans for the protagonist in the next 3 movies to be Villain Protagonist, that is. Or Palpatine is pretending to be good, but evil to the core...still, having some guy like Valorum as the Big Bad sounds way more fun.
- But Valorum is Grievous. I propose Bubble is Sidious.
- And Grievous is dead. Besides we know Palpatine is Sidious; he referred to himself as such once before, and all of the cloaked Darth Sidious scenes are shown in Palpatine's exposition flashbacks.
The Ewoks will be a result of Sally G-MingSearch your feelings, you know it to be true.
- Alternately, they will be Sally's creation, but they will be AWESOME and completely redeem them, much the same way she did with Jar Jar Binks and the Gungans. Wicket will be one of the most badass ninja/rogues ever.
Obi-Wan's death will be Pete's fault.It will seem that Anakin has died, making the players think that only Obi-Wan & R2 are in both Episodes III & IV. Both Pete & Ben clearly hate each other, but Ben tries not to let his IRL emotions interfere with his game decisions, while Pete... doesn't.
- Jossed, at least as far as Pete hating Ben being responsible. Pete is clearly just as overjoyed as the other players when Ben returns.
Sometime in the D&D universe's future, Star Wars will become a hugely successful film series - directed by Sally.
The Original Trilogy will actually be run by the GM's sibling if he has oneAs for why, compare the Original trilogy with the Prequel Trilogy. The Original is more down-to-earth, a bit more gritty, and as a lot less crazy alien designs and planets, with the exception of the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi of course, whereas the Prequel trilogy is more flashy, over the top, and has a lot of weird alien designs and planets. What does this mean exactly? Probably because the GM decided to take a break for a while, but the players want to continue playing in the campaign setting, so he calls upon his brother, or sister, to GM for them. The sibling, however, would be no-nonsense, will railroad them all the time, put Pete in his place, and disregard Sally's suggestions and force her to play only one character, which would probably be C-3PO. To make this even more fun Jim, Ben, Annie, and Pete know the new GM, and are flat terrified of them. They know of the types of campaigns this sibling would like to run, stories chock full of Grey and Grey Morality, sadistic choices, and wham sessions. Examples of games that this sibling would have run would be game versions of Berserk, A Song of Ice and Fire, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and The Black Company. They would then be relieved a little bit when the Sibling GM decides not to GM in that fashion for the Original Trilogy campaign. By the time of Return of the Jedi though, the sibling decides to loosen up a little and give the players a little leeway, which would explain the Ewoks.
Darth Vader will be Grievous, aka ValorumAll that talk about Grievous stealing organs? It's foreshadowing. Anakin will die, but Palpatine will use what's left of him to rebuild Valorum/Grievous yet again. Crazy, I know...
- Except that we saw Grievous burn. Valorum-into-Grievous worked because in the movies, Valorum is never seen again after he's voted out of office, freeing him up in the comic to live out his fantasies of cyborgism by replacing his own body parts while still alive. However, Grievous dies on-screen, both in the movies & in the comic; it would take one heck of a brilliant plot device to restart a deceased brain with no other organs supporting it.
- Didn't stop Cerberus... :)
- Cerberus basically resurrected Commander Shepard as he/she was prior to his/her death. They only used cybernetics when it was ABSOLUTELY possible. But most of Shepard's organs were restored to working order.
- While an interesting idea it's been made clear that Vader's still Anakin.
- Didn't stop Cerberus... :)
Ben is studying medicine because either Sally or one of their parents has an impending or chronic condition.Ben is extremely reluctant to tell Sally why he's in med school, so the rest of the family is keeping news of the condition from her, even if it's her own condition.
The GM is running campaigns with other groups set in the same universeThink about it. Campaigns last several sessions. They most likely have one session a week. There are two years between the campaigns, which leaves a lot of time for other campaigns. Even more if he plays with 2 different groups in one week. The way I imagine it, other groups are playing campaigns based on Expanded Universe stories, and sometimes even 'our' players join them. For example, between first and second campaign with 'our' players, Annie and Ben played a campaign based on Rogue Planet, and between second and third, Sally played two, one as Yoda, one as Mace (GM talked her into playing him again because it was tied to his backstory). During the third campaign, the other group would be the one playing Republic Commandos.
- Obviously in the breaks in this campaign the GM is running his pulp adventure campaign.
Jim will get the lightsaber restricitions on Kyle loosed, then screw up again while playing DF 2:JKSo his lose of powers, in the D&D verse, will have happened twice.
Ben is deadThis is enough proof.
when it comes time for the big reveal about Darth Vader, Annie will take over midway through the "I am your father" sceneLeading to the scene being played completely straight, Ben (Playing Luke) will scream "No, no that's impossible!" while Annie will tell him to search his feelings because he knows it to be true.
Anakin was a plan between the GM and Annie to create a credible villainEvery time the party goes against a villain, they kill them before they ever have a chance to develop. So it was planned that Anakin would be played as a PC until his eventual turn to evil. And when the party was all wiped out (Save Sally and Pete) the others would have to roll a new generation to fight Vader. Of course Ben and Annie derailed this when rule of drama got in the way of the plans. Hence 4 sessions of Jim dying, the plot not moving
Ben is missing the sessions on purpose for Rule of DramaThe GM asked Ben to sit out the sessions until the plot got caught up to him. Ben agreed, made up some bullshit about not being able to make it (leading to experience players like Jim and Pete to assume he had grown tired of the game and was ditching, Trust me any seasoned GM gets these people) He'll come back just in time for Obi-Wan to save Luke from the sand people, shocking the group.
Ben left the group after a fight with PeteExplaining Sally's anger towards him.
A romance will develop between Sally and CoreyCalling it now. They're close in age and of opposite genders. If a relationship doesn't develop, it will at least be joked about.
Ben you should have told me!Corey will become upset that Ben never told him his mother was evil and intent on ruling the galaxy by his father's side.
Ben's soul-searching because of SallyBen left to find himself because Sally's comment made him realize that he was only fulfilling his dad's wishes by going to med school and he needed to find out what he himself really wanted to do with his life.
Han will shoot first!
Obi-Wan is a ghostThat's why he disappears.
Han shows up again in time to blow up the Peace MoonJim decides he cannot leave this gaming group. Or else he gets an offer that isn't abroad.
- He hasn't left yet. He just went to go pick up ice cream to celebrate the big finally.
Darth Vader and Luke are going to do a swap on the infamous line in the second movie.Since Obi-Wan told Darth Vader that Luke killed his son, and not the other way around, the scene is obviously going to go thusly:
- Darth Vader: You killed my son!Luke: No, Vader, I AM your son!
- Somebody better pick up that phone, because I fucking called it! (i.e. Confirmed.)
The Moon Ghost was Nute Gunray.The Moon Ghost aboard the Peace Moon really did exist. It was Nute Gunray, who uploaded his brain functions in time before Anakin killed him on Naboo. Then, when R2 downloaded the entire Peace Moon, he inadvertently downloaded Gunray, which is why his Ls and Rs occasionally switched. It finally culminated in Episode V, where Gunray takes control of R2 and Cloud City as a whole.
Jabba is a human in a rubber suit.(Pasted from the official forums:)
What, the conclusion you drew from Jabba constantly lampshading that he's not a human was that he's actually not a human?The reason he took his death with such equanimity is that it let him do a dramatic death scene without actually dying, because, seriously, it's not like strangling the rubber suit is going to hurt the puppeteer.
- I think basically every other sentence out of Jabba's mouth made it clear that he wasn't a human in a rubber suit.
Yeah, those statements always sort of seemed like he forgot that he had no neck (or whatever) and he had to keep pointing out that indeed, he had no neck. Makes you wonder if maybe the man under Jabba's suit will make a reappearance as another character?
I'm not sure I actually believe it, and it's not how I'd been reading it, but gkljgjl's comment made me step back and think, "Y'know, all that business with the idioms would make sense as more than just a weird personality quirk if Jabba were actually a human in a rubber suit trying too hard to convince the listener that he's not."
Salacious Crumb is not a different being in a rubber suit, as he claims to be.(Pasted from the official forums:)
despite what he says, Salacious himself is not in a suit, but he's gone nuts under the strain of working for Jabba and now no longer believes that anyone, including himself, is a real alien and not an actor in a suit.
On the origin of splanches . . .(Note: The originator of this guess has only just finished the D&D version of the Prequel Trilogy, so for all she knows, this may have been Jossed months ago.) The splanch is the organ in a Clawdite that lets them shift shape. If you're doing a surgery or autopsy on an influential personage and you unexpectedly find a splanch, then there's actually a Clawdite impostor. Boba will live even if he never gets the splanch transplant Zam Wesell tried to pay for; he just won't be able to shift from his "Jango Junior" form (though of course he'll grow up and age). Maybe his being half-Zabrak is why his splanch is wonky. This also adds . . . depth, let's say . . . to any background Non Player Characters who get injured and shout, "Oooh, my splanch!!"
Darth Vader successfully completed the path to the Light side.The opposite of suffering? Has to be either peace (does not suffer) or love (helps alleviate suffering). Vader's last moments are spent fighting Palpatine to save Luke, out of love for him, and declaring:
- Darth Vader: After all these years of torment, I am at peace.
The players in Darths & Droids have been in way more stories than the ones we hear about in the main strip and the Alternate Universe strips.As You Know, in the Irregular Webcomic! universe, Shakespeare’s plays do not exist. While Jim and Annie are living in Los Angeles, Annie re-meets her old friend Will, who had been friends with her and Ben in their drama student days, before Will became a tech writer and Ben started medical training. Will and his friends are now trying to make films, and ask Annie and her friends to help them come up with ideas.
- Jim initially plays hot-headed characters who quickly get killed, including one named after Will’s friend Mercutio. When he gets fed up with dying and decides to play a character with a strong survival instinct, and everyone gets fed up with Jim doing Just a Stupid Accent for any story set in Italy, they settle on a historical drama set in mediaeval England. Jim’s Knight character turns out to be a Lovable Rogue who hangs out in a bar in a Wretched Hive in 15th-century London, and is a boastful, cynical sidekick to the young hero who is obviously The Chosen One. But this time there’s no way he’s going to return to the battlefield just in time to save the day – Prince Hal can look after himself. Also like Han Solo (especially as played by Jim), Falstaff is Not In This For Your Defence Against Revolution, but simply accumulating loot by extorting bribes from reluctant conscripts.
- Who plays Prince Hal? It might be virtually anyone:
- Corey: In another Coming-of-Age Story. Just as Corey started off unfamiliar with tabletop games, but was quickly able to transfer the skills he’d learned in computer games (and Luke knows how to survive on ice planets, swamp planets and forest planets, despite having grown up on a desert planet), so Hal starts off with no battlefield experience, but gets by on the fighting skills he had learned in the mean streets of London.
- Ben: Using Hal’s struggle to live up to his father’s expectations as an outlet for his own troubled relationship with his parents. Ben is also experienced at playing the young Padawan to Jim’s unreliable Mentor, and is comfortable bantering with Jim but telling him off when his behaviour gets really inappropriate.
- Pete: After all, one of his favourite writers is Niccolò Machiavelli. Who could possibly be better qualified to play a devious prince who is willing to pretend to be friends with people simply in order to dump them when it’s politically expedient?
The game will be extended...With the new "campaign" coming out in December 2015. Search your feelings, you know it to be true...
(Episode VII spoilers) Similarly to the Alderaan/Naboo switch, perhaps the Starkiller Base is going to destroy Coruscant?