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The original players who left DM of The Rings are the starting playersFrodo is the GM who is actually trying to make a good campaign with little railroading. Sam is Jim. Merry didn't like the setting and thus didn't get involved. Pippin is Ben. Furthermore when they left Frodo was leaving to play Star Wars the RPG!
The GM's name is George.He will reveal it eventually.
The GM is David Morgan-MarI ask you: has David Morgan-Mar ever not been the GM in any of his numerous webcomics?
Pete was the DM in DM of the Rings.
The players (and GM) are Time LordsWhen they're done the game, they'll decide that it would make an awesome movie and time-travel to find a younger George Lucas. The differences between the game and the not-yet-future movies? YOU try figuring out what actually happened when you have five different people telling you what happened. And also, we didn't have any Doctor Who WMG for this yet.
The Game Master will turn out to be the GM of the "DM of the Rings", who learned his lesson from that campaign. Ben was one of the players.It's explain why the Game Master is doing a space opera.
Steve from Irregular Webcomic is the GM.At some point he'll say something to the extent of 'This campaign's a bit stroppy!'
The GM is a GIRL!It's so obvious.
The GM's name is Luke.And he'll play Luke Skywalker in Episode IV, when Sally takes over as GM.
The players are the same ones as the Fantasy and Space themes in Irregular Webcomic!.Jim is Kyros and Serron. Ben is Iki Piki. Sally is either Draak or Dwalin. Annie is Paris and Alvissa. Pete could be Mordekai.
Newcomer Corey is going to be Luke.Pete's nephew Corey seems to like computers a lot, so much that, when he is told that role-playing games are played with paper and dice, and in person, he seems surprised. Given his status as a newcomer to the Tabletop RPG scene, it makes sense that Corey will be Luke.
Greedo is a Red Herring.The set up for Jim's characters dying is to throw us off. He really is going to be Han Solo next, but the writers are trying to mess with us.
Boba Fett is, in reality, Sio Bibble...Having survived the destruction of Naboo, he goes insane (unless he was always insane, and stopped the pretense of being otherwise) and steals Jango Fett's rusty suit from a museum, thinking himself to be Jango's son. During the carbonite scene, Han pulls off a good fight while trying to avoid going into the carbon freeze, only to be defeated when Boba uses Summon Bigger Fish on him, pushing him into the chamber. The switch is turned on, and Han is encased in carbonite. Search your feelings, you know it to be true!
Future In-game Roles WMGs
The players in episode 4 are the children of the original players.
Annie will play Han Solo, Jim will be Leia, Pete is still R2.The latest comic has Jim suggest Annie to play a pirate now that Anakin is "dead", with Padmé dying Jim might want to play a similar character as Leia. Ben might switch to Luke who could be a GM PC, while Sally can do some character jumping between C3 and Chewbacca (admit it, she would love it and she created the character). In episode 5 she could take control of Yoda again.
In Episodes IV-VI, Han Solo will be played by Annie and Jim will play Leia (or vice-versa.Han and Leia's initially antagonistic relationship in episode 4-5 will be represented by Jim and Annie's current relationship troubles, then at the end of episode 5 they'll get back together to coincide with the scene of Han being frozen in carbonite. Luke will be a DM PC, Ben will play Obi-Wan until his death, then switch to Luke. Sally and Pete will reprise their roles as C-3PO and R2-D2 respectively.
In Episodes IV-VI, Han Solo will be played either by Jim or by Ben.Jim seems to fit the character well (although we all know how well the Irregulars stick to the character from the movies), and Ben dies not long after they met Han (who at that point was an NPC) in a bar, and he was a good character to take over.
After Qui-Gon dies, his player will roll up a new character - Han Solo.You can't get more Han Soloy than Qui-Gon's player. Similarly, Annie will probably take over Luke after Anakin turns evil.
After Qui-Gon dies, his player will roll up a new character - Amidala.It'll take a lot of persuading from Ben and Annie, because Jim won't want to play a female character. But it'll happen.
Pete plays Chewie.Being incredibly strong, good with ranged weaponry, and gave up speech and wearing clothing as negative traits.
Jim will take over Anakin letting Annie play 'that queen chick'It would make the slaughter of the sandpeople make more sense. And maybe some more of the 'Jim and Annie relationship causes Anakin's decent' from the other direction.
Sally will switch to C-3PO when she realizes how ridiculous Jar-Jar isFandom wishes aside, there's only a handful of scenes with Jar-Jar in them for the rest of the trilogy, so she needs a new character (or to be Put on a Bus, but nobody wants that). Who better than the prequels' other comic-relief scrappy in desperate need of image rehabilitation? As far as an in-universe justification, it's been two years since the first campaign, more than enough time for Jar-Jar and his accent to become an Old Shame.
After Qui-Gon dies, Jim will either take over as GM or help the GM make the planets for the next game.Remember, Jim knows geophysics, and he helped explain Naboo a little bit better with the things he picked up from the map the GM had and Sally's underwater thing.
Ben will re-enter as Lando Calrissian after Obi-Wan is killed in Episode 4This explains why there is no mention of what would become a major character until halfway through the second to last movie.
Jim will play Luke, Annie will play Leia and Ben will re-enter as Han Solo after Obi-Wan is killed in Episode 4 (and Lando when Han is frozen). Pete will control both the Droids and Sally will play Chewbacca.Prior to Obi-Wan's death, Han is only a NPC. Pete controlling both the droids may end up being through the Leadership feat or something.
In the Original Trilogy setting, Jim will play Leia and Sally will play Han.
Sally is going to take over as GM for the next campaignThe shift in tone will be because she'll have grown up even further by that time. Various retcons or inconsistencies will be because she doesn't have the previous GM's notes. This will explain the change in quality between the prequels (not to hate on the current GM, he's not bad, he just doesn't have the natural storytelling aptitude Sally does) and go with the general theme of passing things on to a new generation that "A New Hope" was all about.
With the exception of Pete, none of the players will play their character from the third episode to the fourth..It's too big a leap, and everyone will adopt new characters for the new campaign... except Pete, who refuses to give up his XP. My guesses: Ben: Plays Luke. Jim: Plays Han Solo Annie: Plays Leia Sally: Plays C-3PO Pete: Plays R2-D2. The GM will have great delight in playing Ben's old character against Ben, and turning Annie's character into the main villain.
Sally will someday become the most epic DM ever.
Episodes IV-VI will be a different campaign played by different people and ruled by a different GMThe characters that were in episodes I-III will be reprised by the original players for the simple reason of them transplanting the characters into the campaign. Eventually, the old GM and players will return and assist the new GM and players, perhaps Episode VI?
During the escape from the Invisible Hand, Sally will temporarily take over PalpatineThe battle sequence at the beginning of Episode III will probably take more than one session in-universe (especially if deleted scenes are included), so they'll stop right around the time they fight Dooku, then come back next session and Sally will be back. She'll get bored and want to do something in-game, but there's no way to justify Yoda or Mace or some other character appearing out of nowhere, so the GM will just let her control Palpatine until they escape the ship. And he was originally meant to have average stats being just a politician, but Sally or Ben will point out that he's a retired Jedi and demand better stats for him. The change in Palpatine's personality and making him stronger will be responsible for Dooku dying, and Anakin's subsequent fall, and also convince the GM to use Schrödinger's Gun to make him the evil Sith Lord we all know and love.
Jim isn't coming backThe GM will keep playing Padmé as a NPC, then kill her off once it's certain Jim's not returning.
Jim is coming back, but as Palpatine:Jim gets bored of playing a "Girlie goody goody" so he opts to play as a Jedi again. The GM says no, but allows Jim to play as Palpatine (a 'former' jedi) to shut him up. Jim agrees, because this means he can play as a (former) Jedi with even more power and influence than Padmé (and even gets to run both sides and fight with Jedi). Order 66 occurs when Jim realizes that he really isn't allowed to be a true Jedi, so he says "If I can't be a Jedi, than no one can!" and orders the clones to kill them all.
Jim will be Luke, Ben will be Obi-Wan still, Pete will be R2 still, Sally will be C-3PO, and Annie will be Han.
R2 will be, if only briefly, a GMPC.Whether that means Pete will permanently leave the character, I don't know. I see it happening something like this: Episode IV opens with Pete and some other player (Sally seems likely, as she's played 3PO before, but it could be anyone) as the droids, who land on Tatooine, get captured by Jawas (Pete fails his Fortitude save) and get rescued by Luke, another PC the GM was waiting to introduce. The session then ends, and Pete does not attend the following session so the GM uses R2 to introduce Ben's character back into the story. Pete may return to R2 afterwards, or else roll up a new character or leave the game entirely.
Jim plays both Han and Chewie.
Jim will play a character who dies during the campaign.Both of the characters played by Jim have died. They will turn it into a Running Gag by giving Jim a character that will die during the course of the campaign. This can possibly mean that Jim will take over either Palpatine or Vader, who are the only central characters I can remember dying during the original trilogy. I think it's more likely that Jim will take over Palpatine and turn him into a Large Ham with Insane Troll Logic, explaining some of the stuff done by the Empire in the original trilogy ("Our moon sized battlestation got blown up? Build another one! And this time make it bigger!")
Ben will play multiple characters that get quickly killed soon after being introduced.Obi-Wan dies in the Death Star but there are no major characters that Ben can play as until Lando in the next movie. Ben will play as Biggs and give him lots of characterization before being hit with a string of bad rolls, killing him. Then he will play as Dack before being killed again by horrible rolls. He will then play permanently as Lando.
Pete will play Han, Sally will be Leia, Ben will be Luke.Lately, Sally seems to have jumped on the power gaming bandwagon to Pete's approval and their dialogue suggests a lot of interaction outside of the game. After the time skip, Sally and Pete will become a couple over the course of the campaign much to Ben's annoyance.
To repeat from the above: Ben will be Luke.This is mostly based on the "Well Done, Son" Guy stuff that has been introduced with Ben recently. The only other logical choice is for Annie to take the role, but then who's gonna play Vader? ...Jim, maybe? Also, at complete random, I'm guessing Pete will be Lando.
Darth Vader will be an NPCAnnie and the GM went to considerable length to act out Vader's creation while everybody else was out of the room. Plus, Anakin is never referred as Darth Vader in the actual D&D storyline. Thus the GM will play Vader as an NPC as a means of preserving the Twist.
Annie will play Vader again after The RevealAfter the Luke, I Am Your Father Reveal, everyone in the party will know about Vader being Anakin. Annie will resume playing him after this point.
Nobody except Pete will be sticking with the same character throughout the game
Nobody except Sally will be sticking with the same character throughout the game
Luke won't be a PCIn an attempt to deliberately recreate the accidental PC-ifying of Anakin, the DM will introduce Luke, make a big deal of him being the Chosen One, and have him hang around while Jim's characters all get killed. The players, being players, will completely ignore this.
Jim will play HanWe now know that Annie plays Leia, and in the movies Han and Leia hook up by the end of the OT. Romantic sideplot developing as a result of their out-of-game relationship, anyone?
Jim will play multiple characters who get killed off almost immediately after being introducedHe apparently played several one-shot characters in the sessions before Episode IV started, and since then has played Captain Antilles (choked by Vader) and is about to start as Greedo (shot by Han). Future characters will include:
Jim is about to reappear playing Obi-Wan.This will fulfill his intention of playing a character "with a really detailed background" who is unlikely to die - or so he and the rest of the party thinks. This will make it genuinely shocking (to the players) when he dies at the end of Episode IV, and bend the overall plot towards seeking vengeance on Darth Vader.
Ben will play Chewbacca following Obi-Wan's deathThus, the dream team of Ben & Jim (as Han Solo) is reunited at last. Or it could be flipped, with Jim taking Chewie and Ben taking Han, providing an interesting Love Triangle as Han and Leia's relationship from the films comes into play.
Ben will switch to playing Wedge Antilles, then Lando Calrissian after Ben's deathHe plays Wedge for the Death Star and the Battle of Hoth, and in this version it's Wedge who both conceives and executes the plan to destroy the AT-A Ts (it seems like the kind of thing Ben would do). In this version Wedge is killed or captured after Hoth so Ben switches to playing Lando and plays him until the end of the game.
Ben will be Chewbacca, and Jim will be LandoOkay, my reasoning behind this. As we know, Obi-Wan will die at the hands of Darth Vader. Now, it'd be far enough along in the adventure that the GM will have him take over a convenient NPC, like how Jim became Padmé. The only really convenient NPC at that point is, of course, Chewie. Meanwhile, come Episode V, Han will have gotten himself frozen in carbonite, which is as much the fault of Jim being an idiot as anything. So, he temporarily takes over the previously morally ambiguous character of Lando for the quest to get Han back. When they get Han back, he switches between the two, much like Sally as 3PO and Yoda. This allows him to blow the shield bunker and also blow up the Second Peace Moon with Wedge. It also results in Lando's miraculous knowledge that the shields are still up when the fleet jumps out of hyperspace.
Sally will play LandoShortly after Lando shows up, Threepio gets blown to pieces. Sally will decide she's tired of playing a comic relief sidekick and ask to bring in an actual adventuring character. It helps that a city floating in the clouds of a gas giant is perfectly consistent with the kind of setting she'd come up with. Sally won't want Threepio to be repaired, but Ben's Chewbacca will do it just to mess with her.
Most of the Players will play 2 Characters in the Final BattleThe exception being Corey, whose character will be on the Peace Moon II. And even then, he could play Wicket the Ewok.
Lando won't be a PC......except maybe during the rescue of "Greedo" in the 1st part of the 6th campaign.note Other than that, the other players already have characters for the Endor Campaign which makes Lando redundant. Of course he's not in that part of the campaign, he's in the "Space Battle" part, so by this point the players could have 2 PCs at once, as above. But still... for the whole story to be decided by a then NPC...
Sally will pull the same stunt that Annie did with Darth Vaderwhen Luke meets Yoda If Corey, not knowing who Yoda is, sees that Yoda is being played by Sally, he might think "This character is a PC, so he must be important", which would kind of ruin the part where Yoda pretends he's someone else in order to evaluate Luke. Thus, Yoda will be played by the GM until The Reveal
Future In-game Plot WMGs
Anakin gets tired of playing a good character.Making Darth Vader.
Annie will go Dark Side because she breaks up with her boyfriend.In a recent strip, she mentioned that she was already dating someone, and there's already her tendency to play Anakin as melodramatically angsty as possible. If something bad happens in the real world, say she gets dumped, it's quite possible she'll project that frustration into her character and make him do things like threaten and force choke his love interest, or slaughter sand people.
Annie will have no remorse in killing sandpeople and younglings.As seen in strip 192, Annie has no remorse about blowing up the Trade Federation ship and killing anyone on. To her, it's merely to show that she's not to be messed with. After the sandpeople incident, she will make her character more cold and mechanical, making her more willing to kill Dooku, the younglings, and Ben's character.
Anakin will turn Palpatine to the Dark SidePalpatine seems to be a good character in Episode I. This could just be an act, but the writers do like inverting Star Wars plotlines.
Yoda is the SithSally doesn't protest when Anakin accuses Yoda and Windu of being Sith. Don't tell me SALLY knows how to separate in- and out of character experience.
The under-construction new moon of Naboo is the Death StarIt's an artificial moon-sized/shaped object, it's under construction, and its plans have been stolen. That's No Moon!
Dagobah happens because everyone except Luke and the GM go on vacation.The GM uses an NPC to train Luke in a level of badass while the other characters are at Cloud City while their players are away. Annie and Lando's player are dating (or even on their honeymoon, considering how long three movies worth of RP could take), and Han and Leia's characters have their own business to attend to.
Anne will become a MunchkinAnne will eventually just think this is all a game, which leads in her killing the sand people and the Jedi.
The Game will also include...The game will continue on past the movies to include the Clone Wars series. Both of Them. I mean think of it; Ahsoka seems like the kind of person Sally would roll up.
Sio Bibble was behind everything all along.Not sure if David Morgan-Mar will be able to find enough images of Bubble in the second or third movies, but damn, the GM would have to be crazy not to reward that kind of persistence.
Anakin will become Darth Vader because of a Face-Heel Turn by Padmé.Look at how Jim's playing her: She's the one who's trying to spearhead creating an army, seeing enemies (like Bibble) where there are none, and is acting like a psychopathic lunatic in character. Therefore, when Padmé starts to go mad with power and trying to create her empire, Anakin will end up having to Shoot the Dog, at which point Obi Wan will show up, misinterpret what's happened with the force choking, and attack him.
The Peace Moon will become the Death StarSeem's pretty obvious to me. We haven't seen it yet, it's the size of a moon, and in theory it could bring about peace.
The Babies Won't Be Luke and Leia, They'll be Luke and HanAnd Bail was too smart to raise the baby himself. Han will be Leia's sweetheart who ran away to seek adventure, breaking her heart. She'll want nothing to do with him, at first...
The Time Skip to the Original Trilogy Will Not Be PlannedThe players will get the Republic so thoroughly messed up at the end of the third leg of the campaign that the GM will get back to them after a weekend/month/whatever and say, "I have a solution..."
The Original Trilogy will be an entirely different psionics-only Space Opera setting.But Pete pesters the DM until he (or she, see above) throws up his (or her) hands in frustration and says "Fine! You get to be R2! Jerk. But I'm not changing the Empire setting!"
Jango Fett is Darth MaulWhen he was bisected the wound was cauterised and he managed to live long enough to have his consciousness transferred into a clone body.
Jango Fett is meant to kill Mace Windu.Jango is supposed to be a long-term recurring nemesis. Windu is just another NPC authority figure. For an NPC to kill off the hero's nemesis makes very little sense. Therefore, what the GM is planning is for Jango to shoot Windu in the arena fight, as part of his "destroy everything you ever cared about" scheme. Unfortunately, when they come to play that scene, the players will be feeling rules lawyer-y. So one of them will say: "Couldn't Windu block with his laser sword?" At this point the GM will feel obliged to roll some dice, with the odds carefully stacked in favour of the plot. And will then roll three ones in a row for Jango. Boba Fett will be meant to be a way of getting out of this unfortunate situation, and the GM will carefully plan out his big entrance in the later game. Unfortunately Ben will go and get himself killed by Annie before Boba can turn up, and with no plot-relevant motivation the younger Fett will be reduced to a bit part.
Jim becomes a muchkin (though not as bad as Pete) through the end of Episode 2 and the middle of Episode 3, and then sacrifices Padmé to undo his callousness.From the end of this comic and the rant below it. He takes "Pregnant" for the advantage hesitant enemies might give him and "Twins" to triple Padmé's Force Connection. Annie gets into more and more heated discussion about it with him, Pete trying to convince him to join the Dark Side, and moments after the event horizon of Anakin's forthcoming Face-Heel Turn, Jim realizes how awful he's being, waits for the twins to be born, and sacrifices his own character to show that he's truly willing to let go and role-play for the characters rather than the stats. Pete, of course, remains as R2 for the rest of the series, trying to
Mace Windu was going to be boring... Until Sally makes him a Bad Ass.Sally has already expressed irritation that she's stuck with Red Shirt types while everyone gets to be Cheddar Monks with Laser Blades. In Mace Windu she finally has a character who can keep up with the "main" players. So when the GM announces that Windu's supposed to be a Yoda-style wimp, Sally's going to Take a Third Option In Badass and turn her character into the Samuel L. Jackson-style Person of Mass Destruction we all know and love. (For that matter, Yoda's' resulting level in Badass / Windmill-On-A-Pogo-Stick fight might be a direct result of Sally upping the ante on what Cheddar Masters can do.)
Annie will not return for Episode IV...As a result of lingering tension between her and both Ben and Jim. (This is an extension of the above suggestion that Annie ends up in a love triangle with the two of them). Ben and Jim will return but be fairly antagonistic despite still being on the same side in the game.
...but returns for Episode V - as LandoExplains her choice to betray Han (if he is played by Jim). They reconcile while playing, so Lando helps rescue him later.
The campaign for Episode IV gets derailed by the Random Encounter Table in the very first screen captureAt the start of the Episode IV campaign, the players are on board the Tanitive IV and about to land on Tatooine. Pete, still playing R2-D2, customized the Tanitive IV since acquiring it in Episode III, and is itching to test it out in combat. When the GM tells him he had no encounter planned to begin the campaign, Pete insists that he rolls one up. The GM does so and out pops the Star Destroyer. (One player asks if the large object the GM is adding to the game mat is supposed to be the planet.)
Anakin kills Padmé because Jim breaks up with AnnieAt this point, there is some crazy tension between Jim and Annie, in- and out-game. This is a natural explanation of Anakin going to kill Padmé, they will date in between and Jim breaks up with Annie in some jackass kind of way.
Anakin won't have a Face-Heel Turn"Darth" is either a personal name, or a title bestowed on private investigators. When Annie's character becomes Darth Vader, he's just going to be trying to create a decent galaxy for his kids to live in.
The Peace Moon is NOT the Death StarThe whole Peace Moon= Death Star has been foreshadowed way too much. It just seems way too obvious, and Darths and Droids loves twisting the established Star Wars saga in different ways. Possibly the Peace Moon will just be a peace moon, and the players will destroy it/make sure it is never created, so a Death Star is created instead.
The Peace Moon/Death Star will be used to destroy Naboo, not AlderaanThe two planets are similar-looking enough to use Episode 4 Alderaan sceens as Naboo, and the plot has been tying the Peace Moon to Naboo for some time now. Its destruction would also have far more significance than a previously unknown planet.
The Empire Are Going To Be The Good GuysOr at the very least not evil. Seems to be a lot of Nice Job Breaking It Hero moments. And every so often we get a monologue about how Jim's charecters actions, via his playstyle, are pretty much completely responsible for every bad thing that's happened. One imagines the Expospeak by Palpatine in Return of The Jedi to Luke is going to be truly epic.
Palpatine will retroactively turn evil as the result of a Schrödinger's Gun.
Boba will be after Luke, not Han.Boba had three possible candidates on his hit-list: Anakin, for causing the death of his mother, Obi-Wan, for causing the death of his birth father, and Mace, for causing the death of the man that raised him. He won't be able to exact revenge on either of the latter two due to dying at others' hands, and canonically, by the time the Original Trilogy comes around, only a handful of characters ever knew he was Anakin Skywalker. Meaning Boba would not even know that Darth Vader is a person he wants revenge on. However, he hears of Luke's exploits at the Battle of Yavin, sees his name is Skywalker, correctly concludes that he is Anakin's son, and goes to seek revenge on him for his father's actions. The reason he captures Han is to lure Luke (much like Vader did), but he transferred Han to a place more advantageous to him before telling Luke he's got Han hostage, not knowing that Luke is already heading to Cloud City to rescue him.
The players will run a The Force Unleashed campaign after episode III.
The aftereffects of Mace Windu's Heroic BSOD include going completely off the deep end, and an intentional Heroic RROD.Because how else could you go from "I will never kill again" to stabbing the seated chancellor in the face with a lightsaber?
Mace Windu's Heroic BSOD will be RetConned by the DM to have been caused by Jango's "a million clones hear a lone voice cry out in terror and be suddenly silenced" failsafe.Because the backlash of a sentient's death being broadcast straight by you to millions of other beings can really get to you, and this shouldn't be the first time that Mace has taken a life in battle within the D&D continuity.
The Jedi misinterpreted the prophecy.In Episode 146 the commentary mentions the confusion over what "bringing balance to the Force" means. Towards the end of Return of the Jedi, the correct interpretation will be brought back, perhaps explained by the Emperor.
It will eventually be revealed that, sometime between the second and third prequel arcs, Jar Jar Binks became a cyborg and joined the Seperatists, becoming General Grievous.I had the Jar Jar / Grievous theory since I read the third prequel novelization. Both are generals, both aliens, both helped Darth Sideous's plans without knowing it. The lower arms, when detached from the top, would be under computer control.
Ben and Jim will be surprised to find out Annie has been Chaotic Neutral all along.Of course the GM knew the entire time. But Ben and Jim thought she was a good guy, when all along she has only been serving her own interests, which will come back and bite them in the asses in Episode III.
Anakin's fall to the dark side is running parallel to Annie becoming more munchkin like.Recently, Annie seems to be focusing more on stats and such than the role-play aspect. Also, in episode three, Pete, feeling outcast by the rest of the group, will take on the part of Palpatine, just so he can make them suffer. Palpatine's guiding and corruption of Anakin reflects the same of Pete and Annie. Meanwhile, Jim has started to love actual role-play, thus he'll decide to impregnate Padmé for the sake of Drama. Finally, by the end of the series, no one will fit the same niche as they started. GM will become the The Brain, Jim The Thespian, Annie the Munchkin, Pete The Loonie, Ben the Real Man, and Sally the GM.
Anakin will turn to the Dark Side to kill Padmé.We know of the author's changing up of canon material, we know there is some tension between Annie and Jim, and we know in the original, Anakin became dark to save Padmé. So why not the opposite?
The twins won't be named during Episode III...So nobody will know that Luke and Leia are related to Anakin and Padmé until The Reveal in Episode V, just like in the movies. Jim will probably find some way to lampshade it: "Yeah, I'm going to spend the last of my strength coming up with names instead of, y'know, not dying. Pete, hand me that die, will you?"
Mace Windu is the traitorDarths and Droids love inverting these tropes, so why not have Anakin protecting Palpatine?
Order 66 will be the result of a secondary fail-safe installed in the clones by JangoConsidering his grudge against the Jedi, it would make sense for him to set up a fail-safe that's both impossible to stop, and offs as many of his enemies as possible. The only real question would be what causes this fail-safe to activate in the first place.
Anakin is the Sith Lord who has infiltrated the Republic.Maybe this is a bit extreme, but there doesn't seem to be any reason whatsoever to expect Palpatine really being the Big Bad. What if Anakin is actually the villain, and has been studying Sith teachings in the Jedi Library, or something to that effect?
Padmé will become Vader and Anakin will become the Emperor.Or at least, they'll throw things for a loop by making Vader and the Emperor someone completely different. As it is now, only Anakin and Padmé have been particularly power hungry. Everyone else have been essentially pawns of the two.
Palpatine actually becomes Anakin's apprentice Sith.Annie's offscreen discussions with the GM were about Anakin actually being the tribute-to-the-legends Sith Lord. Anakin will manipulate Mace Windu (who never knows what's actually going on) into attacking Palpatine to convince the Chancellor to become his Sith apprentice to stop the "corrupt" Jedi. Anakin will keep Palpatine in place as Emperor, though, because he's "an important symbol to the citizens of the" Empire.
Anakin becomes Vader... but none of the the players know it.The GM gets everyone to believe that Anakin dies on Mustafar after the battle with Obi-Wan. Vader is an NPC (at least for A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back), Annie plays as Luke; the GM reveals at Cloud City that Vader is actually Annie's old character.
Anakin becomes Vader... but Vader doesn't know it.Vader/Anakin loses his memory after Mustafar. The players - or maybe just whoever plays Luke - figures it out before Cloud City, and that classic scene is actually Luke revealing to Vader that Vader is Luke's father, and was once a Jedi etc.
Sallies campaign will be Knights of the Old RepublicInstead of doing a direct sequel to the campaign that The GM was running she would make a distant prequel where the Jedi are still alive and they are fighting a war against an army of the Sith. The plot of Knights of the Old Republic suits itself really well for a young DM's campaign since it is basically a McGuffin hunt but has enough Crazy Awesome moments and characters to suit her character. The campaign would just start with Jim as Revan and Ben as Carth. As the campaign went along more players would come in to play the various party members with of course Pete being playing HK-47. After they are done with the plot of Knights of the Old Republic they would probably stop for a little while but a year or two later Sally will make a campaign for KoTOR 2 explaining that campaign as being much Darker and Edgier as her getting a little older.
Yoda and Palpatine will swap bodies.I just came up with this idea because...well, who doesn't want to see Sally running the empire?
The "dreadnought" that R2 lent to Obi-Wan that's still on Tattooine is the Millenium FalconWhat other ships are there on the planet?
It will turn out that Pete's dreadnought is that one ship that appears to have landed nose-first in Mos Eisley
Admiral Ackbar will be an elderly Jar Jar Binks
Adam Lars is Adam LarsAdam Lars that the characters see is actually Adam Lars, son of Owen & Beru, not Luke Skywalker. Luke died while he and Adam were growing up, perhaps not surviving the development of the character sheet.
Beru and Owen are still aliveThey're so crazy prepared that they killed anyone (besides Adam) who could recognize them and then faked their deaths. This certainly wouldn't be the first time that the writers have greatly expanded characters who were killed off in a matter of minutes in the movies.
Vader is will let Adam blow the Peace Moon upIt doesn't seem likely that he'd stop politicking just because all his plans were horribly ruined. This time he's just using a rebellion to wipe out the Senate.
Luke's obsession with fulfilling the quest Owen and Beru gave him will span the rest of the trilogyThat funeral pyre is for melting the droids down, in addition to cremating Vader's remains.
The spread-spectrum black-body alpha wave suppressor Pete gives Corey will be important laterI'm not sure how yet, but it seems rather McGuffin-y.
The Underwater Oxygen Extraction Apparatus and Grappling Hook are Chekhov's GunsThus Luke survives being pulled under in the garbage compressor and later can swing across that gap with Leia.
The Darth Vader who kills Obi-Wan will really be Boba Fett in disguise.
Dooku is Tarkin's father
Luke's realization that he kissed his own sister will be the cause of the Big "NO!"
The Lost Orb will be retrieved in Episode IV the same way it was in Episode I.That is to say, by blowing up the spacecraft on which it is held. If it was explosion-proof last time, it should still be explosion-proof this time.
Vader's informant is Han Solo!
R2-D2 is Vader's informant.
The "Ghost" on the Peace Moon is Pete/R2.The Clone Troopers are all afraid of rumors of a "ghost" on the Peace Moon that keeps making wonky things happen. This will end up being the result of Pete's repeated attempts to install a backdoor into the Peace Moon's systems. Ultimately this will cause a fatal system crash on the Peace Moon and be the real reason it blows up. Pete did all of this completely by accident and will react with a Big "NO!" when the GM tells him what happened because he wanted to capture the Peace Moon and use its power, not destroy it.
Wedge is secretly Boba FettWe learn in Episode IV that Wedge is a shape-shifter, and they've already established that in the D&D universe Boba Fett is the son of shape-shifter Zam Wessel. It wouldn't be the first time the Irregulars turned two canon characters into a single comic character.
Vader's informant is LandoInstead of being an old friend of Han's Lando will be reworked into a rebel spy undercover on Bespin. He will be revealed to be the traitor and then have his change of heart. Since Luke has been so adamant about finding the traitor, this will make things more ironic when he ends up being saved by Lando.
The Traitor is a Random NPCSpecifically, the one who gives him a different rendezvous point, just to play with the expectations of the readers and surprise them with an unmemorable individual being the one responsible for so much.
The "Luke, I Am Your Father" scene will be turned on its headVader thinks Luke killed his son and took his name, and now Luke knows Vader is his father. So naturally, the iconic scene will end up being Luke telling Vader that he is his son.
In Luke's confrontation with Vader and the Emperor, he will turn to the Dark SideWe know that Palpatine will use Force Drain on Luke, which comes right after Luke defeating and dehanding Vader. Palpatine will realise this is his chance to wipe out the Sith once and for all, and Vader, not wanting his legacy to end, will kill Palpatine. Luke will return to Endor as the second Dark Lord of the Sith, prepared to pass on his teachings to a new generation of Force users.
In A Universe the Players Inhabit WMGs
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on Dungeons & Dragons.Because where can you go from there?
The nested strips will eventually finish on a screencap comic which uses faked screencaps from a nonexistent movie.The last line of the rant will be "The Comics Irregulars exist and are making a screencap comic based on Star Wars."
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on The Lord Of The Rings.And it will link to DM Of The Rings.
The nested 'in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually continue on The Matrix and Pirates of the Caribbean.I'm honestly shocked that I'm the first person to think of this.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on the internet.And it will be a 404 Error: Not Found page.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will continue from the 404 Error: Not Found page to a world where the Internet does not exist.
350's "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist", they will show a bit from the Princess Bride campaign.
In the universe the players inhabit, George Lucas never crashed his car.When he was young, Lucas wanted to be a race car driver, but he almost died in a car crash and went on to becoming a director instead. In the comic's universe, the reason Star Wars does not exist is because George Lucas never crashed his car and never decided not to become a racer, so he's a race car driver now.
The strips will eventually end with a screen cap comic based on a non-existent or unreleased work then say that in that universe Star Wars doesn't exist
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually finish on Irregular Webcomic.This would mean that The Comic Irregulars don't exist, and thus cannot create a screencap comic based on another work.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will continue on to Top GearBuilding on a WMG on the Top Gear page, the presenters of that show are very RPG character-ish, and one could even figure out who'd play what:
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will continue on to Kamen Rider Dragon Knight.They're going to run out of Western media to spoof eventually, and DK has plenty of action spots for everyone.
D&D is not the top level.There are two (at least) higher-level webcomics based on The Princess Bride and Twilight.
This universe is what would happen if Pete were GMing.Everyone has to be that Minmaxed just to survive the campaign.
The nested "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will eventually continue on to Ralph Bakshi's The Lord Of The Rings.
Eventually a game will take place in Game of Thrones.
The final "in the universe the players inhabit, _____ does not exist" strips will be based on religions and ancient myth.Thank about it, what are the oldest sources of tropes?
Differences in the "Ids & Idiots" universe.Let's break our guesses down one by one:
The last nested universe will be based on Real LifeThe players will play the roles of the Comic Irregulars in their attempt to make a screencap webcomic.
Time Skip Campaign WMGs
The DM from DM of the Rings published his setting......and it's the "low-magic fantasy campaign" they play between Episodes 1 and 2.
The fantasy campaign was The Princess Bride... from the perspective of Vizzini, Fezzik and Ignio Montoya.In 260 we're told Jim was a barbarian (Fezzik), they were on "an important mission from the King" (with the twists DMM puts to the source material, they were probably working for Prince Humperdink), and they were stalked by the captain of the "ninja pirates" (Dread Pirate Roberts). In Episode 316, we learn there was a Miracle Man who Jim got to resurrect a character Pete thought was "unimportant" (Westley; he wasn't a PC, so how important could he have been?)
The game that Pete's pissed off about was a game version of The Princess Bride
Annie's campaign follows the story of Night of the Living Dead.A downer campaign contrary to player expectations, combined with the stuff about curing monster bites... it's gonna be official pretty soon.
Annie's campaign was Pokemon.Pete describes it as a "monster-hunter" campaign, & she got mad at Jim for killing all the monsters...because he was supposed to catch them. The "curing bites" business was probably a Poison attack.
Annie's campaign was Call of Cthulhu
Annie's campaign was Van HelsingStrip 552 drops the heaviest hints yet. The campaign involved vampires, werewolves and Frankenstein's monster; Pete's character killed them all. Near the end it was randomly revealed that Pete was the Archangel Gabriel.
Jim was banned from laser swords because......he cut himself shaving (as in, cut his own head off). We're pretty sure the third offscreen campaign was Dark Forces if the name "Kyle Katarn" is anything to go by, and I noticed this previous nod to Dark Forces when skimming the trope page recently. It sounds like something Jim would try that would then go Horribly Wrong.
Ben will figure out Vader's identity.But he won't tell anyone this because he won't realize it until after Obi-Wan Kenobi has died. Thus, any new character he creates will not have the knowledge Obi-Wan would. Ben, being a firm believer in keeping player knowledge and character knowledge separate, will be unable to reveal this in-story.
Jim's campaign was Firefly
Jim's one-shot in #775 was Catch-22#775 mentions a shellshocked pilot (Pete as Yossariannote ), another pilot (The GM, possibly as Nately or Orr), a doctor who didn't want to be a doctor (Sally as Daneeka), and a nurse (Annie possibly as Nurse Duckett). (Although calling Nately's whore's knifeplay "fencing" is probably overstating it a bit.)
Ben's campaign between Episode IV and Episode VSo Ben ran a campaign while Jim and Annie were away in Los Angeles. Here are the details we know about it thus far:
Annie's Relationships WMGs
Annie is dating Ben.It's why they have BOTH been so evasive about her being single with the other players.
Anne and Ben will hook up via the RPGBut there will be angst, and "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!" will ensue.
Annie ends up in a love triangle with Jim and BenFits perfectly with Anakin being torn between the Jedi and Padmé, and his eventual rejection of both.
Annie is dating the GM.Seriously. How could we get through a comic about RPGs without invoking Dungeonmaster's Girlfriend? It's been love since first GM Note. "We worked it out together" indeed.
Jim and Annie will date for a while between Episode II and III, but will break up shortly before the new campaign begins.This will provide much comic tension when they return to their now married characters. If no other reason, it'll make a much better explanation than what really happened in the film.
Jim and Annie's relationship will remain troubled.Sure, they'll make up during this adventure, but then they'll fall out again and she'll kill him. Things will get increasingly petty between them, with Jim's space pirate shooting Annie's ship down in the next adventure, and Annie then torturing him and turning him into a human popsicle. Meanwhile, Ben will have switched to playing Leia after the death of Obi-Wan, leaving Jim somewhat confused by the opening to Jedi...
Annie is pregnant with Jim's babyThink about it: Annie is upset with Jim. As of strip 440 she says she needs to talk to him about it, meaning it is something he did but doesn't know it. Jim lets real life situations affect his character, explaining why Padmé is pregnant in ROTS. AND if Annie decides to keep the baby it will probably make her more emotional, explaining Anakin's mood swings.
The game will be interrupted because Annie goes into labor.I dunno, just that it'd be hilarious with everyone panicking and watch, Sally will be the level-headed one.
Annie and Jim will return from his job, marriedThey seem to have progressed pretty far already.
The story is Imperial propagandaJust look at its portrayal of the Jedi, and Qui-Gon in particular. Or Palpatine's predecessor, for that matter. KNEEL BEFORE VALORUM!
One of the people who makes the comic is here on this page, planting all these theories as foreshadowing for what is to comeJust wait. Soon more and more of these theories will become canon...
One of the Comic Irregulars added the previous WMG to deflect attention from the ones that will turn out to be true...
A sixth person will join the group at some point.Since there are six main good characters in the original trilogy (Luke, Leia, Han, Chewy, C-3PO, and R2-D2), this means that a sixth person will probably join the group at some point, accounting for the six original trilogy characters. If they join in the prequel trilogy part, they'll probably take over Mace Windu or Yoda.
Record of Lodoss War will be mentioned at some point.One of the players will bring up the idea of adapting their current game sessions the way Ryo Mizuno did, possibly leading to a Who Would Want to Watch Us? moment.
Pete usurped the substitute GM position.Ben has a point: why would the GM trust him to run things while he was gone, particularly since he's seen how Pete is with his 'I'm Better Than You' attitude regarding Artoo? He certainly couldn't be trusted to follow the GM's notes. Perhaps the GM had called Pete, explained the family emergency, and asked Pete to either call the others to call off that week's session or tell Ben to substitute as GM: a wiser choice, considering he's known Ben longer and can trust him and Obi-Wan was currently out of commission. But Pete, being Pete, lied and said the GM asked him to sub, giving him the reign of terror seen now.
The die that failed to stabilize Qui-Gon, is a Chekhov's Gun.The ultra-luck granted to it by rolling four 1's in a row will pay off in the future. The distant future. Namely, this die will be the one that rolls the 20 that kills the .Death Star. Peace Moon. Whatever.
Annie planned Anikin's entire fall and RotJ redemptionHer notes on his character are longer than the DM's preparation, and probably are filled with exactly how his painful childhood has warped him.
Annie is BritishShe calls gas "petrol".
Annie will die in childbirthIt's either that or become Darth Vader.
Star Wars did exist, but only A New Hope was released as an obscure B-Movie.When they recreate Episode IV, the GM will realize that the Peace Moon/Death Star seemed a little too familiar until one of the players points out an obscure B-Movie with that exact same concept.
Anakin won't go dark sideDooku has been trying to get the Jedi to help him, and that Palpatine is evil. Ben will start to believe Dooku, while Annie will choose to believe Palpatine, thus driving them into conflict. Both will think the other is evil, but neither of them actually will be, although one will be an unwitting pawn to either Palpatine or Dooku. If Dooku is evil, Obi-Wan will go into exile in shame, and later atone by training, and dying for, Anakin's son. Palpatine and the badly disfigured Anakin will form the Empire for noble reasons, but will have been corrupted by power by A New Hope.
Anakin won't become Darth VaderCount Dooku recently mentioned he has a son, who is very like Anakin. In the final battle on Mustafar, Anakin will simply be killed, but not resurrected as Vader. Instead, Vader will be Dooku's son, who declares vengeance on Obi-Wan for his part in his father's death. (And will, of course, get it in a New Hope.) This is more likely if Dooku is indeed telling the truth. The GM seems to love making the players suffer for their wrong choices.
Valorum will become the Emperor in the Original TrilogyIt's going to be really hard to establish Palpatine to be a good guy now and suddenly shift him to be...er, evil for the next 3 movies unless either something drastic happens to him, or Valorum got mind-transferred into Palpatine's body...unless DMM plans for the protagonist in the next 3 movies to be Villain Protagonist, that is. Or Palpatine is pretending to be good, but evil to the core...still, having some guy like Valorum as the Big Bad sounds way more fun.
The Ewoks will be a result of Sally G-MingSearch your feelings, you know it to be true.
Obi-Wan's death will be Pete's fault.It will seem that Anakin has died, making the players think that only Obi-Wan & R2 are in both Episodes III & IV. Both Pete & Ben clearly hate each other, but Ben tries not to let his IRL emotions interfere with his game decisions, while Pete... doesn't.
Sometime in the D&D universe's future, Star Wars will become a hugely successful film series - directed by Sally.
The Original Trilogy will actually be run by the GM's sibling if he has oneAs for why, compare the Original trilogy with the Prequel Trilogy. The Original is more down-to-earth, a bit more gritty, and as a lot less crazy alien designs and planets, with the exception of the Ewoks in Return of the Jedi of course, whereas the Prequel trilogy is more flashy, over the top, and has a lot of weird alien designs and planets. What does this mean exactly? Probably because the GM decided to take a break for a while, but the players want to continue playing in the campaign setting, so he calls upon his brother, or sister, to GM for them. The sibling, however, would be no-nonsense, will railroad them all the time, put Pete in his place, and disregard Sally's suggestions and force her to play only one character, which would probably be C-3PO. To make this even more fun Jim, Ben, Annie, and Pete know the new GM, and are flat terrified of them. They know of the types of campaigns this sibling would like to run, stories chock full of Grey and Grey Morality, sadistic choices, and wham sessions. Examples of games that this sibling would have run would be game versions of Berserk, A Song of Ice and Fire, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and The Black Company. They would then be relieved a little bit when the Sibling GM decides not to GM in that fashion for the Original Trilogy campaign. By the time of Return of the Jedi though, the sibling decides to loosen up a little and give the players a little leeway, which would explain the Ewoks.
Darth Vader will be Grievous, aka ValorumAll that talk about Grievous stealing organs? It's foreshadowing. Anakin will die, but Palpatine will use what's left of him to rebuild Valorum/Grievous yet again. Crazy, I know...
Ben is studying medicine because either Sally or one of their parents has an impending or chronic condition.Ben is extremely reluctant to tell Sally why he's in med school, so the rest of the family is keeping news of the condition from her, even if it's her own condition.
The GM is running campaigns with other groups set in the same universeThink about it. Campaigns last several sessions. They most likely have one session a week. There are two years between the campaigns, which leaves a lot of time for other campaigns. Even more if he plays with 2 different groups in one week. The way I imagine it, other groups are playing campaigns based on Expanded Universe stories, and sometimes even 'our' players join them. For example, between first and second campaign with 'our' players, Annie and Ben played a campaign based on Rogue Planet, and between second and third, Sally played two, one as Yoda, one as Mace (GM talked her into playing him again because it was tied to his backstory). During the third campaign, the other group would be the one playing Republic Commandos.
Jim will get the lightsaber restricitions on Kyle loosed, then screw up again while playing DF 2:JKSo his lose of powers, in the D&D verse, will have happened twice.
Ben is deadThis is enough proof.
when it comes time for the big reveal about Darth Vader, Annie will take over midway through the "I am your father" sceneLeading to the scene being played completely straight, Ben (Playing Luke) will scream "No, no that's impossible!" while Annie will tell him to search his feelings because he knows it to be true.
Anakin was a plan between the GM and Annie to create a credible villainEvery time the party goes against a villain, they kill them before they ever have a chance to develop. So it was planned that Anakin would be played as a PC until his eventual turn to evil. And when the party was all wiped out (Save Sally and Pete) the others would have to roll a new generation to fight Vader. Of course Ben and Annie derailed this when rule of drama got in the way of the plans. Hence 4 sessions of Jim dying, the plot not moving
Ben is missing the sessions on purpose for Rule of DramaThe GM asked Ben to sit out the sessions until the plot got caught up to him. Ben agreed, made up some bullshit about not being able to make it (leading to experience players like Jim and Pete to assume he had grown tired of the game and was ditching, Trust me any seasoned GM gets these people) He'll come back just in time for Obi-Wan to save Luke from the sand people, shocking the group.
Ben left the group after a fight with PeteExplaining Sally's anger towards him.
A romance will develop between Sally and CoreyCalling it now. They're close in age and of opposite genders. If a relationship doesn't develop, it will at least be joked about.
Ben you should have told me!Corey will become upset that Ben never told him his mother was evil and intent on ruling the galaxy by his father's side.
Ben's soul-searching because of SallyBen left to find himself because Sally's comment made him realize that he was only fulfilling his dad's wishes by going to med school and he needed to find out what he himself really wanted to do with his life.
Han will shoot first!
Obi-Wan is a ghostThat's why he disappears.
Han shows up again in time to blow up the Peace MoonJim decides he cannot leave this gaming group. Or else he gets an offer that isn't abroad.
Darth Vader and Luke are going to do a swap on the infamous line in the second movie.Since Obi-Wan told Darth Vader that Luke killed his son, and not the other way around, the scene is obviously going to go thusly:
The game will be extended...With the new "campaign" coming out in December 2015. Search your feelings, you know it to be true...