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This is a "Wild Mass Guess" entry, where we pull out all the sanity stops on theorizing. The regular entry on this topic is elsewhere. Please see this programme note.
Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures
Edward Ti'Fiona is Aniz
They look somewhat alike, and Fa'Lina told Aniz that she wouldn't accept any more of his kids into SAIA for three hundred and seventy-five years. Abel was 24 back then, now he's 399, do the math.
  • Jossed here.
    • Edward does look an awful lot like Aniz. It says that while Aniz was (supposedly) killed by Quintinga Ti'Fiona, she ALSO died in the fight. What if Quintinga died, but Aniz somehow survived and created the illusion that they had killed each other, and then Aniz offed the real Edward Ti'Fiona and took his place? Considering the title and dialog in this strip.... And then there's the fact that Aniz' clan mark is on his left forearm. And Edward's left forearm always seems to be obscured in some way....
    • But that begs the question: if Destania is more powerful than Aniz, how would he pull that one over her? I find it hard to believe she wouldn't notice at all.
    • Also, why hasn't Alexsi developed headwings?
      • *puts tin foil hat on* If we follow this theory, Alexsi would have been born as the natural child of Edward and Quintiga.
      • Quintiga goes off and seemingly kills Aniz, while dying in the process.
      • Edward mourns Quintiga, and to his surprise Aniz pops up and kills him, and takes his place as the owner of Lost Lake to raise Alexsi (Why? I don't know, but Aniz is an enigma anyway).
    • Aniz has shown that he has some remorse towards unintended victims. Maybe he raised Alexsi because he only realized after the fact he had orphaned her.
      • Destania comes along, and they reconcile, over a mutual hatred and plan to end the dragon race, with Destania giving birth to Dan. This would make Dan Abel's half-brother, and would explain why Abel reacts the way he does.
  • Jossed even further here. Edward's resemblance to Aniz is commented on, but only to suggest it's why Destania didn't immediately kill him.

Pip is Albanion.
It's quite clear from recent comics that Pip can enter another creature's mind, even Cubi (who have the ability to shield most thoughts, and often do). Also, Mab has known Pip for quite a while, and he's suited towards mischief. Albanion is an obvious suspect!
  • Nothing of the sort. What was made clear was that someone used an image of Pip when invading Abel's mind. The text bubbles hint that it wasn't actually Pip.
  • Further, Albanion has referred to Pip as a different person (in upside down text, third panel) here
Dan's clothes have a mind of their own and the ability to change styles and sizes.
And they think FABULOUSLY!!!! Either that or somebody had way too much free time on their hands.
  • Jossed, he's just been stealing Abel's clothes by accident.
Abel's clan feeds on guilt, as opposed to the Cyra Clan, which feeds on pain.
  • The nightmare and Abel's backstory both point towards things he wishes he could have avoided, and things he feels he could have prevented. Abel's clan marking doesn't match any of those which visibly remain, at least as far as a casual observation of the Cubi Clan manual reveals... and it seems like Abel's father went out of his way to ensure that both his wife and son would feel guilt for quite a ways to come.

Devin is Abel's half brother
Devin explained about how his father took one look at him when he was born, then walked away. Could this have been a failed attempt by Aniz to get a cubi kid? And when he saw there were no wings, he realised he'd failed, and tried again with Abel.
  • Isn't Cubi breeding almost exactly like the Diclonii? Meaning doesn't matter the parent or the attempt the kid will always be a succubus or incubus.
    • Not confirmed to be true. That seems to be groundless Fanon
      • Not groundless. It is, however, implied to be false by that very same page. So this WMG is actually plausible.
      • Nothing's implied; that page outright says the kid will nearly always be a Cubi if the other parent is a Being. If the other parent is a Demon, Mythos, etc., it's more dicey, but Devin seemed to be a Being.
      • It specifically says nearly always. Would fit, especially if Aniz was expecting his son to be cubi and he wasn't.
      • It says "Cubi half breeds only seem to work if the cubi parent is the more 'powerful' of the two... which is why beings are often a prime target." There's a lot of wiggle words in this statement. Rewording, it notes that half breeds seem to always fail when the cubi is less powerful. However, it provides no data as to the likelihood that it will succeed when the cubi is more powerful, simply that it only ever works when they are. If there's a 5% success rate when more powerful, and a 0% success rate when less powerful, the given statement remains true. We can infer that beings are usually less powerful because they are prime targets, but it makes no guarantees. Perhaps a particularly powerful being or particularly weak cubi (Aniz isn't particularly strong for a cubi, as noted in the later strips) will result in a being-cubi coupling being guaranteed to fail.

Mink is going to die horribly
He/she/it hasn't showed up in the current story yet, to my recollection, and killing off the cute, cheerful thing would fit into the Darker and Edgier motif of Abel's Story.
  • Considering the below theory, it seems more likely that Abel and Mink merely stopped hanging out. Judging by Mink's personality, maybe a Friend Zoning gone wrong is the most likely culprit.
    • Abel's Story just ended without killing Mink, so the above theory re: friend zoning is very possible. Alternately, a lot can change over three hundred years and they may just have grown apart.
      • Jossed here in the comic that claimed that Mink was killed by falling anvils.
      Mink: This panel is full of lies! Don't listen to it! I'm fine!
    • That suggests plural, the death by anvils is one "lie" so the quote is also a lie.
    • We only saw the Academy for one day, so it is entirely possible that Mink and Abel are still good friends and Abel just hasn't mentioned him. He hasn't mentioned much about his life at the academy, after all.
  • Jossed. Mink is mentioned here and shows up here.
  • And the Friend Zoning is Jossed, too, in that Mink has never dated, and given Abel's rant to Wildy, he probably hasn't, either.

Dan will undergo a permanent Face-Heel Turn
His mom was a monster in both senses of the word. And if Edward really is Aniz, it's inevitable.
  • This implies that eugenics works in the world of DMFA. Unfortunate implications much?
  • Meanwhile, Abel, whose father was a monster in both senses of the word, is a nice guy at heart, and is trying to kill his monster of a father. Dan turning bad seems unlikely.

Mink is * not* going to die.
The Cubi Clan Leaders arc takes place in the present, since they have computers and are aware of Dan's existence. Mink's writing the report. So yeah.
  • Is it clear how canon that arc is? Then again it doesn't seem to not be.
  • As of the end of Abel's Story, he's still around. Hooray! Now that I think about it, that should have been obvious- what are the odds, after all, of a cubi getting killed within SAIA, right under Fa'Lina's nose?

Chickie is the real hero.
Bugs are high in moral fiber.

Devin is obfuscating his personality.
...And in fact, is the same Devin from when he was alive. It's been a couple hundred years; his Jerk Assedness may have toned down some during that time, and we all know how Dark Pegasus feels about undead who retain their personalities...
  • Jossed, all undead that existed before undead gained souls have no memories of their past lives, and that includes Devin.
Aniz has been dead for centuries.
It's already been established that his little stunt stepped on a lot of toes - despite the obvious Chekhov's Gun of Fa'lina's 376-year ban, Hennya's family or some adventurer they hired killed him long ago, or the Jin or Soulstealer clan secretly used an adventurer as an assassin. Either the deadline is a complete Red Herring, or Abel's going to learn of Aniz's death with a trap nice and ready.
  • Jossed.
    • Jossed-ish. It's been decades, not centuries, but the adventurer who killed him was working on the orders of Zivnth authorities.

The series takes place in the extremely far future of Star Wars
Every race was created by Sith alchemy. There.
  • At least partially jossed, because the Fae quite clearly exist at a level beyond sith powers. Probably Dragons, too.

Cyra achieved Tri-Wing status by eating the soul of a Dragon
This is based on several known facts:
  • There is precedence for achieving tri-wing by eating souls (see Zezzuva in the Cubi Clan Leaders arc, ascended by eating the soul of her sister, the previous leader)
  • Cyra's method of ascension ticked the dragons of enough to start a war of genocide against cubis, and Cyra's own clan remains "kill on sight" even after the truce
  • Cyra is shown (in a dream, granted) to be bizarrely huge
  • Of the two forms a Dragon can take, their most famous form is bizarrely huge
Ergo: Cyra's massive size is reflective of her using a Dragon soul to achieve Tri-Wing status, likely through trickery since she wouldn't yet be strong enough to take one on in a direct fight. This enraged the Dragons so much, they started the Dragon/Cubi war in retaliation. Cyra's clan is still targeted for genocide because cooler heads covered their asses by pointing out the Cubi race as a whole was not responsible for one member's independent atrocities.
  • Not entirely Jossed, but Amber has stated that all clan leaders are bizarrely huge. To quote- "Tri-Wings are naturally really big. Usually if you are seeing a normal-sized one (like Fa'Lina), they have either shapeshifted themselves smaller...or more likely they are simply using an aspect puppet or proxy of themselves to interract with folks while their true selves are hidden elsewhere."
  • Confirmed.

When Mab says two of her five friends are going to die, she just means because they're Beings.
Of course, assuming the five friends are Dan, Alexis, Wildy, Jyrras, and Pip, that just raises further questions - namely, which of the three ostensible Beings isn't going to die, and how, and how does she know this?
  • Somehow, I don't think Pip was one. He seems like he's an Immortal Playmate, and therefore she's allowed to keep him alive forever. Merlitz, maybe?
    • Merlitz seems like a much better candidate than Pip; go back and read earlier comics, especially during Aaryanna's introductory arc, and see that Mab had a very strong connection to Merlitz. Plus the fact that he's still being mentioned indirectly (Jen showing up at Lost Lake and bemoaning his absence, for instance), as opposed to characters like Azlan, who's been Put on a Bus. Still leaves no answers as to who the supposed two are.
    • Also compounding the fact is that Dan has technically died twice already. Back in the Lighter and Softer years and once killed Dark Pegauses. The second time his heart stopped beating for a minute which is dead in the classical sense.

Wildy and Biggs are Weres
The demonology page says that "many [Weres] prefer to keep their true selves hidden," and also that they tend to be aggressive and unpredictable. It would explain her human fetish, if human form is something she's had to hide most of her life... Also, a few early appearances have Wildy much smaller than her current Shorttank height - about the size of an actual ferret? (Of course, that doesn't really mesh with keeping hidden... but Dan's never been all that observant.)
  • I'd chalk the first few appearances up to Art Evolution, but other than that...wow. It also might explain how Biggs managed to get to the top of the Twink Territories pecking order so fast.
  • The human/were member of the creature council looks suspiciously like Biggs. They've got the exact same hairstyle and bandana. Also, weres are supposed to be decent at magic, and Wildy is a magic-user.
  • The unnamed Councillor also looks like this guy.
    • Isn't that a girl?
  • I'll buy this theory. Secret page info lends credence to this as well: According to the Human page in the Demonology 101 section, humans did exist in Furre. They vanished suddenly several hundred years ago, and Weres have a different story about them and their extinction than the rest of the races do. Now, when you consider that bit of in conjunction with the fact that Wildy-San is a fan of humans, it raises a lot of implications. This is all circumspect at best, but it does make sense...
    • Apparently, this spec has been bouncing around the fora since 2006, where it's well-known enough to be a bit of a meme. Nothing new under the sun and all that...
  • Partially Jossed, Amber intended for Wildy to he a Were but scrapped the idea because she thought the comic didn't have enough Beings (similarly she decided not to turn Jyrras into an undead).

Okay, let's get some Quoar spec kicked off.
I mean...
  • Oldest clan leader.
  • Only male clan leader.
  • Willfully separated from the academy.
  • Shrouded in mystery.
  • Has a clan quirk that Abel inexplicably shares.
  • Closest we've seen to familiar incubi.

You couldn't have a more obvious Chekhov's Gunman if his clan marking were a flashing neon sign. So... perhaps he "adopted" Aniz, the same way Seme "adopted" most of the Siar? Maybe Jyrras is him in disguise, under heavy Amnesiac Dissonance?
  • To be fair, the same page talks about how any non-Quoar can have the same quirks as a Quoar; it just so happens that Quoar always have the aformentioned quirks (Combination bat-and-feather wings and mismatched eyes), while it's seen as an omen if a non-Quoar has even one of those traits. If I had to guess, I'd say that the Quoar were perhaps some sort of progenitor species of Cubi. Later clans had similarities, but individual quirks, perhaps based on the fact that most Cubi tend to mate with non-Cubi. You could think of Quoar himself as sort of a Cubi equivalent to Cain; not all Cubi are of his clan, but all Cubi trace their origins back to him.e
  • I like this progenitor theory alot - in fact I'd like to go even further with it. The Demo101 page for Cubi mentions a theory that the Cubi race was formed from a union of demons and angels, and Quoar's clan has a lot of traits from both. His entire clan quirk is based around duality, about the fusion of opposites. And of course, his emotional affinity is love. Could he be one of the original, immediate descendants of a union between demons and angels?

The humans are hiding in Hishaan, under Quoar's protection
...because why not?

Matter with no magic in it would behave like Strange Matter
It kinda makes sense. It's implied that it's almost impossible to produce objects which lack magic, so why wouldn't zero-magic matter behave like strange matter, converting all other matter it comes in contact with into more zero-magic matter?
  • Further more, this is the "one of the five friends will destroy the world" thing Mab was saying.

Jyrras is going to end up with Mink.
The closest things he's had to male love interests have been Cubi, Mink points out that he's never dated in hundreds of years, his Coming-Out Story is constructed to leave the audience (and Abel) less than 100% convinced he's being honest with himself, Mink's relatively feminine...

That girl that screams BISHONEN is part of clan Quoar
Her eyes may not be two colors but her wings seem to be both feather and bat-like. Granted, in the reverse of Quoar and Abel's, but it still stands.
  • She could have shapeshifted her eyes to be the same color. But then again, you could probably say something similar for the wings....

Mab has manipulated Jyrras's entire life and beyond.
If you look at the flashback where Jyrras's parents meet following the dating service mixup, you can see what looks like an orange butterfly in the background... or is it Mab's wings? It's entirely possible that Mab's plan goes back so far that she engineered Jyrras to be what he is by making sure Moira would meet Seth and fall in love instantly, resulting in the short but brilliant inventor.

That dating service messed up a lot of pairings.
Kangaroo and Kangaroo Rat, Kiwi and Komodo Dragon... anyone even want to imagine how the date went between the Koala and the Kraken?

Destania plans to make her husband part of clan Cyra
She has already taken the first step after all.

Da' and Fa'lina are lovers of some sort.
This is why Pyroduck, entrusted apparently full-time to Da' from infancy, still has such a close connection to Fa'lina and the academy, to the point of having her as his only listed relative on the cast page, as well as why he was entrusted to her specifically in the first place. Both of them have a relationship with him reminiscent of mothers and adult sons in whose upbringing they were involved. Phoenix Oracles do not reproduce sexually, of course, but neither do tri-wing Cubi, and Fa'lina would not be the only one of those to take a lover.

Dan or Cyra will end up killing Destinia

The phoenix who said Merlitz was dead was lying, and was paid to do so.
Think about it. Phoenixes are borderline omniscient, to the point that one not knowing something is borderline earth-shaking. And yet this one didn't know that a group of adventurers were going to come during her lunch break? Or plan ahead for an answer for them? There are two options: either something was blocking her knowledge or she was lying. Given that Da' was shaken by the fact that she didn't know Merlitz, and yet the phoenix who said Merlitz had been killed was unsurprised by a group of adventurers coming during her lunch break, it's likely that she was paid off to lie to them by the same force obscuring Da's knowledge. The whole "I'm on lunch break" thing was a convenient excuse for that.

Now, regarding Merlitz's dull life stone: one of the reasons a stone can go dull is because the adventurer is where powerful magic cannot track. If something is powerful enough to obscure a phoenix's knowledge, then it's probably powerful enough to confound any magic between an adventurer and their stone. Whatever is doing this needs Merlitz alive for something, and yet needs everyone else to think he's dead.

The phoenix who said Merlitz was dead was Destania
Well she did cop to the adventurers being her plan to kill Abel. She's associated with forces that might be powerful enough to block a phoenix's sight, and she's a shapeshifter.

Cyra is in Lost Lake somewhere

Seriously. It's the last place Anyone would think to look for her.

Pyroduck will end up being the one who kills Hizell
  • For one reason. Hizell tries to kill Alexsi

Pip is actually Hizell in disguise, and his "game" with Mab is his war against the Cubi

Very likely jossed as of page #1451 though. Unless that's not Hizell who is scrying on Lost Lake...
  • It would be a very good explanation for why Pip hates Dan so much if this WMG turned out to be true.... If Pip isn't Hizell then he might still be someone closely associated or working with Hizell. And the dragon in page #1451 has yet to be identified by name, so while less likely, this WMG isn't dead yet.

Quoar's clan's membership Dwarfs the others.

There are no more humans in Furrae because the dragons realised they were a potential threat and exterminated them

There is a potential reason for this, but admittedly it's a bit of a stretch; it relies on the logic that what is true of a were's human form also applies to humans in general - namely, that a were's human form is immune to magic. That would give the magic-loving dragons a very good reason to eliminate humanity, particularly if they decided to try and take advantage of this immunity.

If that's not the case, it may also be that the dragons somehow knew about the technology that humans were capable of and decided to get rid of them preemptively before they could become technologically advanced enough to be a real threat. Which has certain implications about what could potentially happen to Jyrras or beings in general...
The strange Bard-type guy visiting Lost Lake is Quoar.
Surprised no one's mentioned this yet. His coloring and clothing style matches. And he has the right hat. we first see the back of his head here. Note that he has short ears. Next time we see him here, his ears are long and rabbit-like. And Cubi are nothing if not shapeshifters. It seems like he might be after Abel, since one of the first things he asks Alexsi is if she runs the bar alone. The real question is what does he want with Abel?

Clan Quoar Dwarfs all the other Cubi Clans in number

The clan is practically a unknown entity and next to nothing about them is known.
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