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Jul 4th 2019 at 1:55:15 AM

Toy Story 3: Lots-o'-Huggin' Bear seems to have a lot of natter and non-character tropes.

" And There Was Much Rejoicing: The Stinger shows that Ken and Barbie have made Sunnyside "cool and groovy", while Lotso's minions were Easily Forgiven after they realized Lotso duped them into his nihilistic mindset."

" Armor-Piercing Question:

Lotso begins his Villainous Breakdown when Woody asks him about Daisy. "Where's your kid now, sheriff?" is probably his stubborn attempt at one to prove his point once and for all about what he believes to be an inevitable fate for all toys; to be thrown away into nothing while their owners move on without them. Too bad he didn't get to see how much he failed."

" The Alcatraz: In essence, Sunnyside Day Care Center is a toy version of Alcatraz or ADX Florence, with Lotso as its warden. And it takes an unusually dark turn when Lotso refuses to let the toys escape back to Andy, and has them jailed in the daycare's storage crates. Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique and Big Brother Is Watching all apply here."

"Berserk Button: The very word "family" seems to be this for Lotso.

Buzz's mention of it seems to be the catalyst for the transition from Lotso's focus on his soft side to his focus on his vicious side. note Arguably Fridge Brilliance, seeing as how his Freudian Excuse involves that he and his owner and her other toys used to be like a family."

" Big Bad Wannabe: With that said, while he is the main antagonist and views himself as quite the spirit-crushing Straw Nihilist, his own cowardice and helplessness before the world's mistreatment of toys shows he doesn't even believe his own motives, making him little more than a weaselly self-absorbed bully within the already threatening world for toys."

Edited by lalalei2001 on Jul 4th 2019 at 1:55:53 AM

The Protomen enhanced my life.
porkyThegrumpiest don't ask me about my niche from South Pacific Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
don't ask me about my niche
Jul 6th 2019 at 5:36:13 AM

The Platformer section of Demonic Spiders, especially the part covering Super Mario Bros., is a one big natterfest. It is so bad that it makes GoddamnedBats/PlatformGame look well-written in comparison.

Edited by porkyThegrumpiest on Jul 6th 2019 at 7:41:49 PM

"A jump to the sky turns to a rider kick."
Primis from Nsburg
Aug 8th 2019 at 3:42:10 PM

The WTH, Casting Agency? entry for Dick Grayson on YMMV.Batman Forever is pretty natter-y. Not sure if anything beyond the initial bullet-point is worth saving or not.

Edited by Primis on Aug 8th 2019 at 3:42:59 AM

Night Vision Image Quality Cleanup Thread
WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Aug 8th 2019 at 3:43:45 PM

[up] I agree.

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dsneybuf Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Aug 9th 2019 at 4:21:55 AM

From Fridge.The Lego Movie 2 The Second Part:

  • Queen Watevra actually did a lot of things she said she doesn't do in her 'Not Evil' song: she says she doesn't have an ulterior motive but by not telling Wyldstyle and the others her wedding-union plan and saying she just wants to help sell counts as an ulterior motive, even if the motive isn't necessarily evil; she claims she never lies, but again not saying a word about her ulterior motive is lying by omission; by giving Benny, Metalbeard and Unikitty 'gifts' does raise the question of "do they like Queen Watevra, or do they just like the gifts?" If the latter, it can count as a bribe of sorts. Lastly, she also did some emotional/psychological manipulation by making Batman want to marry her via exploiting his dislike of Superman.
    • Note that the queen doesn't sing in the movie that she never bribes or lies, just on the soundtrack.

Could I just outright delete the references to lines that didn't make it into the final film, even though I only wrote the reply (which would also have to go if I get to trim)?

wingedcatgirl it's her... the real winged cat girl... from Catgirl Heaven, presumably Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
it's her... the real winged cat girl...
Aug 14th 2019 at 8:44:48 AM

Orphaned Punchline has a whole bunch of examples with "btw here is the missing setup" pasted on as a response.

... Just to check, do we even want to explain the missing setup when we can?

🐱 Name: Sylvi 🐱 Pronouns: it/they/she 🐱
TalesofUnder Art by Taco Badger from The Tropers’s Apartment Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Art by Taco Badger
Aug 16th 2019 at 9:06:50 PM

This section on Have a Nice Death spirals off into a series of tangents:

  • Sierra's adventure games also deserve a special mention for having some of the fastest ways to end your game for good in gaming history: For example, it's very possible to end Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards in less than half a second by walking onto a street and getting run over by a car almost immediately afterwards. Of course, this leads to a particularly Nonstandard Game Over that shows Larry's body lowered into an underground facility to be cloned for the player's next try (with cameos from several other Sierra games).

    • Not to mention what happens if you don't pay for the taxi. Or run out of money. Or get into the taxi while holding alcohol. Or try to flush the toilet. Or don't use a condom with the hooker. Or forget to zip up after leaving the hooker.

    • Another classic occurs when you do not beat the game within its (quite generous) time limit, where Larry considers his continued virginity so depressing that he kills himself.

    • There's also a Gay Option in one game. Larry's not dead, but it's still Game Over.

    • Spoofed in The Secret of Monkey Island. If you walk too near a cliff edge, Guybrush falls, you get a cheesy pop-up window that looks straight out of one of Sierra's "Quest" series, and then Guybrush bounces back up, where he offers two words of explanation: "Rubber tree!"

      • Sierra has a Shout-Out to this in the puzzle game Castle of Dr. Brain. One of the hallways has a rubber tree with the description "These can be very useful should you fall off a high cliff. They are much less useful inside a castle." (It's a game in which you can't be killed, incidentally.)

    • Another spoof, this time in Monkey Island 2: Le Chuck's Revenge, has Guybrush telling the story to Elaine in which he fails to escape an acid trap in time and dies. This prompts her response, "Horse hockey. You honestly expect me to believe you were disintegrated in acid." The plot goes back to before the event.

      • Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time had a similar death message. The Prince-as-narrator says, "No, that didn't really happen" or similar.

      • "And then, I died. No, wait."

      • This also happens in King's Quest (2015) due to the game's framing device.

My father always told me: “Always have a bazooka, son.” I was more commited to that in season 1.
Aug 24th 2019 at 11:00:51 AM

Bara no Maria is infested with natter, Zero Context Examples, first person language, constantly using Mariarose's full name as a pronoun when the singular they would suffice, and other things. I would clean it up myself, but I do not have the time, and just looking at the page is giving me an aneurysm.

Also, when the page is cleaned up, can someone maybe let me know, on this thread or a PM, or something? I would like to know when I can return to that page without “losing my lunch”, so to speak. Thanks.

Edited by MasterN on Aug 24th 2019 at 11:12:01 AM

nombretomado the formatting mod from just kind of around Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
the formatting mod
Aug 24th 2019 at 3:42:49 PM

I'm taking a run at it, but have moved the main page to A Brave Heart of Red Rose, with Bara no Maria as a redirect.

nombretomado the formatting mod from just kind of around Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
the formatting mod
Aug 24th 2019 at 4:07:30 PM

~MasterN, did some cleaning on it.

Aug 24th 2019 at 6:32:19 PM

THANK YOU.

It looks much better than it did before. Not quite 100% neat, but at least it is more readable.

Berrenta Heating things up from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Heating things up
Aug 26th 2019 at 9:55:25 PM

Fridge.Starbound may be worth a look. There's a lot of natter.

Sep 4th 2019 at 11:56:02 PM

The Trauma Conga Line entries are filled with all kinds of Word Cruft, plus some Zero Context Examples. Can someone please help? These pages are far too large for me to take on myself.

Pichu-kun ...
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Sep 13th 2019 at 5:12:44 AM

I combined the various Lion King examples onto AlternativeCharacterInterpretation.The Lion King but I'm stumped about how to copy these examples from AlternativeCharacterInterpretation.Animated Films. Is there anything worth salvaging?

  • Mufasa. Noble, courageous king and loving father... or pompous Jerkass who threw his weight around to bully his little brother, was letting a bunch of hyenas starve for no reason, and who was raising his son to be as big a douche as he was? Or, alternately, a generally decent king and good father, but who's prejudiced against hyenas?
    • He also banishes a race (the hyenas) to a barren wasteland, wherein they are starving, for no apparent reason. We are never even given a hint as to what Hyenas could have possibly done to deserve this treatment, which is oppressive if not outright genocidal. Mufasa and his dynasty can easily be seen as pompous, racist tyrants and Scar as a Well-Intentioned Extremist trying to liberate oppressed people from Mufasa's regime. An alternative alternative take is that both Scar and Mufasa are jerks, Mufasa exiling the hyenas to the badlands, and Scar exploiting their desperation for his own gain.
    • In Real Life, lions and hyenas don't get along, stealing kills from each other all the time, and will not hesitate to harass or harm one another given the opportunity. In fact, male lions will sometimes venture into hyena territory with the specific goal of assassinating the clan's Alpha Female.
    • Also, once the Hyenas are given power over the Pride Lands, the entire kingdom falls apart and all the prey animals flee. This could indicate that Mufasa originally banished them because they lacked self-control and nearly hunted every other animal to near extinction.
    • It is worth noting, however, that the decline of the Kingdom was due in large part to a drought. Now, some might argue both in and out of universe that acceptance of hyenas created the drought but that leads to the conclusion the Circle of Life works basically like Pat Robertson thinks God does and punishes nations with natural disaster for desegregating.

Here are the equivalents from TLK's page:

  • Mufasa. Noble, courageous king and loving father... or pompous Jerkass who threw his weight around to bully his little brother, was letting a bunch of hyenas starve for no reason, and who was raising his son to be as big a douche as he was? Or, alternately, a generally decent king and good father, but who's prejudiced against hyenas?
  • Mufasa and his dynasty can easily be seen as pompous, racist tyrants and Scar as a Well-Intentioned Extremist trying to liberate oppressed people from Mufasa's regime. An alternative take is that both Scar and Mufasa are jerks, Mufasa exiling the hyenas to the badlands, and Scar exploiting their desperation for his own gain.
  • The hyenas. Were they really banished for not respecting the Circle of Life? They think of themselves as being oppressed underdogs, and in real life they're very real competition with lions in the food chain. After all, as others have pointed out, Scar enlists their aid not by promising them power or conquest, but food. The hyenas seem most excited about the fact that they'll be able to eat. Their apparent poverty and Scar's manipulation of it is just another eerie parallel to the Third Reich and the duped German population. The documentary Mickey Mouse Monopoly pointed this out.

Edited by Pichu-kun on Sep 13th 2019 at 5:15:16 AM

rjd1922 Paladin from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Paladin
Sep 23rd 2019 at 12:23:20 PM

6f5e4d added a spoiler-tagged sentence to the end of this Pokémon entry on StatusQuoIsGod.Anime And Manga with no other changes, which seems to violate Repair, Don't Respond. Should the example just be removed?

Steel be with you.
Sep 28th 2019 at 9:13:04 PM

An awkward self arguing jumble, what should we do. Does anyone know enough about the comic to fix it.

  • 8-Bit Theater. Maybe not? Or he is and is simply using psychological manipulation to try and scare the woman away from his sociopathic associates. The real proof is here and here. He seems to be some combination of Stupid Good (belief in Power of Friendship, inability to recognize when someone is evil), and Dumb Is Good.

Sep 29th 2019 at 12:02:20 AM

[up]So a popular long-running theory is that despite presenting as a good but dumb idiot oblivious to his "friends" evil actions, that Fighter actually is secretly very intelligent and playing everyone like a fiddle (and perhaps allowing and targeting his companion's heinous acts and only occasionally reigning them in). Not helped by Fighter's rare moments of scary competency being followed by long periods of absolute stupidity and gullibility. But being a humor strip, how accurate any of that is should be taken with a grain of salt. Some of the final strips support him as the token good teammate, as he is able to use divine weapons that burn his evil friends (although the assertion that they are divine weapons comes from Fighter himself). Long story short, the strip certainly presents Fighter as the one dumb but ultimately good guy on the team, and anything else is either for a joke or fan conspiracies.

That entry makes some sense if you're a fan of the comic, but I agree it just comes off as way too confusing to anyone else.

Oct 14th 2019 at 10:50:25 PM

The Music folder in "Weird Al" Effect is full of Natter, including an instance of This Troper that I deleted. Please fix it.

WarJay77 Simba is tired from Upstate New York Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Simba is tired
Oct 14th 2019 at 10:51:33 PM

[up] Mate, people won't be inclined to help fix pages with you just sort of demanding they get fixed...

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XFllo Witch from Where foxes bid people good night... Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
Witch
Oct 15th 2019 at 7:32:53 AM

[up] Yep. We are all volunteers here, dedicating our time. Everyone can fix stuff on the wiki.

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