I see, oh well there then.

Probably I don't see any major problem that would prevent it from going on the page.

Having seen the film a long time ago, to both Morgana and Horvath

Morgana and Horvath.

Morgana and Horvath

Yes to Flame Stag and the Apprentice duo.

Though I must be dense: If that's not a Pet the Dog or even Pragmatic Villainy, what is it? Just a whim?

Edited by ACW on Apr 10th 2022 at 7:24:37 AM

Yes to Morgana and Horvath

@ACW it's probably just plain old bad writing

Yes the TSA's Duo there.

And lest we forget, we still need to start that thread for Final Fantasy's page replacement. Who was gonna do that?

• Omikron: The Nomad Soul: Astaroth, Prince of Infernal Darkness, was sealed away after trying to conquer Phaenon. From his prison Astaroth, to restore his power, hijacked the supercomputer Ix and sent his Demons to prey on and consume the souls of the people. Said souls would be sent to the Reservoir to be tortured, the pain restoring his strength. He also created the game itself to ensnare the gamers in our universe and eat their souls, his ultimate goal to enslave both his universe and ours, devouring millions of souls to do so.

Sooooooo anyone object if I reserve Kingdom Hearts IV? I am happy to collab of course. I have worked with Scraggle over KH in the past, but I think someone was looking at Union X and Dark Road - speaking of, the finale to that's coming soon and they announced a new Mobile game: Missing Link.

EDIT: (Just noticed the double post. Sorry. I was in a bit of a rush and hype.)

Edited by PolarPhantom on Apr 10th 2022 at 5:17:47 AM

Polar: here for FF.

The Sorceror's Apprentice duo.

By the way, is it normal that in the Complete Monster Final Fantasy page the FFXV entry is not sorted inside the main "Examples" folder of the "Main Series and Associated Works" section?

Also noted a typo in the FFXIV Valens entry: "An abusive boss, Valens would leave his men to die without a care if he he sees no value in them anymore." (One too many "he").

Can't fix those myself, the page is locked (I guess only ACW can modify them?).

Edited by NonoRobot on Apr 10th 2022 at 6:15:17 AM

to the TSA duo and the Mega Man X guys

The Sorcerer's apprentice duo

Edited by WetFlannels on Apr 10th 2022 at 2:45:02 PM

Morgana and Horvath, Apprentice is one of many guilty pleasures of mine... Now for the fourth Mega Man X baddie, there's still one potential Maverick left after I propose this guy.

Who is he? Frost Walrus is a sadistic Sociopathic Soldier of the separatist Repliforce Army, a rival group of Maverick Hunters who decide to launch a Military Coup against the human government in name of their independence. A convicted criminal even before the Great Repliforce War, Frost Walrus was saved from execution by the army and repaid them by disobeying orders whenever possible to satisfy himself with grotesque war crimes. When the war begins, Frost Walrus takes several Reploids to a remote cavern and freezes their legs and arms, all to watch them slowly freezing to death but but unable to do anything about it—A high-ranking Repliforce officer is notified of this and visits Frost Walrus to personally reprimand him for causing senseless violence that was not helping with their revolution at all, Frost Walrus then decides that Hunting the Most Dangerous Game would be the best way to solve this problem.

He releases his victims and brutally butchers the hapless Reploids, going as far as to bisect one of them. X and his partner—Maverick Hunters veteran Blizzard Buffalo—arrive at the horrific scene and try to put an end to the carnage, Frost Walrus quickly deals with both of them and manages to kill Buffalo before escaping. It's here that X learns the true extent of his sadism, turns out Frost Walrus is a prolific Cop Killer who likes to murder famous Maverick Hunters, taking their corpses to his personal "Room of the Wild Ones" as morbid trophies.

''Listen, the people being collected in here... Are the ones who held out particularly well, catch my drift? Me killing them was just a natural matter of course, it's the ones who can hold on to life for more than 20 seconds that qualify to be displayed here. The blockheads call me violent, but it's nothing like that. I'm a kind-hearted man who offers those piles of scrap a place to die!"

X infuriates Frost Walrus by destroying his macabre Room of the Wild Ones and the two begin to fight, with Frost Walrus excitingly confessing his desire to add X to his new collection after the fight is done. Luckly for X, the supreme commander of the Repliforce himself arrives to personally execute Frost Walrus, saving X in the process.

Heinous? Frost Walrus lacks the destructive plans of the Mavericks and a few of the Repliforce Army—Jet Stingray in particular had orders to cut the lifeline of 800,000 families, which actually left him conflicted for a brief moment. Frost Walrus makes up for it by filling a unique niche in the manga, he's one of the rare Reploids to be a Serial Killer and an accomplished one at that.

Mitigating Factors? Below zero, no pun intended. He's a just a vicious Reploid war criminal, the Repliforce Army barely tolerate this guy and they end up stopping him.

Conclusion?

Edited by TheMadCr0w on Apr 10th 2022 at 11:12:03 AM

I'll fix the typo in the Sandbox. As for your other question...I'm sure I had a reason, I just can't remember.

As for Frost: Leaning yes, but even with his niche the manga seems to have a HIGH standard. Also, does he even believe what he's saying?

Edited by ACW on Apr 10th 2022 at 9:41:05 AM

Morgana, Whoresbath, and the Mega Man X quadruple

Nope, he was already on Death Row before the war, killing strong opponents is just something that satisfies him.

Edited by TheMadCr0w on Apr 10th 2022 at 10:45:49 AM

Okay, that answers that, but then there's still the standard. When you have the other keepers who attempt to or actually DO kill thousands if not millions (billions in Sigma's case?), I'm a bit wary. Though I guess for his tier he's okay, and it's not like a Dragon Ball thing.

Sorcerer Apprentice duo and the X candidates, especially Frost Walrus I was thinking putting him because even among other Mavericks, Frosty is in his own level sadism especially when he presented Buffalo after knocking X unconscious just to torment him further.

Actually I would like to add on the Jet Stingray example of the heinous, while he was task to destroy a city, Jet still went as far as to warn the residents ahead of time to get them to evacuate, even sending his own men to help with the evacuation effort. Almost all the Mavericks in X4 at least has some sort of redeeming quality, whether it's honor, genuine loyalty, etc yet Frost out heinous them personally despite all he has is an arctic base, in comparison to a air fleet or a massive laser canon.

Edited by TheImmortalAngelNewton on Apr 10th 2022 at 9:52:32 PM

Yes to Frost.

Remember that arsonist I mentioned in my previous effortpost? I rewatched the episode…

What is the work?

"Tinder Box" is the 22nd episode of CSI: Miami's first season.

Eric Delko and Tim "Speed" Speedle go to a nightclub called "Club Descent" to socialize. When the DJ sets off pyrotechnics, the club is consumed in flames, killing dozens of people via smoke inhalation and stampeding.

The perpetrator turns out to be a supposed friend of Delko's.

Who is Danny Maxwell and what has he done?

Danny Maxwell is the bouncer at the club.

When the fire starts, Danny attempts to put it out with a fire extinguisher, but fails to do so.

In actuality, Danny had doused the curtains near the DJ's pyrotechnics in rum, killed the bartender who witnessed him arranging the arson, and exited the premises before returning to perform engineered heroics.

Danny's stunt results in Dozens of people suffering from smoke inhalation, including one of his coworkers who smacked her head in a shower due to said smoke inhalation, as well as at least one woman being trampled.

After Delko ties a blood sample from Danny to blood at the scene of the crime, Delko confronts Danny, who tries to justify his actions by highlighting his heroic actions, and saying he wanted to stand out.

Danny is then arrested and incarcerated.

Mitigating Factors?

Danny shows no remorse for causing the deaths of several people in an attempt to play hero, even if he didn't necessarily plan to kill them.

Danny may have told Delko to get to safety during the fire, but this is more of an attempt to make himself look heroic, given he started the fire in the first place.

Danny's regard for his family is less loving and more viewing their status as a badge of honour to which he aspires.

Heinousness?

The club owner may have intentionally sabotaged the club to commit insurance fraud, but Danny set the fire of his own accord in an attempt at engineered heroics, and killed the guy who could have stopped him.

He has at least 28 victims in terms of injury and death, maybe more, one of the highest body counts for a Fake Ultimate Hero, and one of the higher arsonist body counts in the CSI-verse. At least 15 people die because Danny wanted to play the hero.

Verdict?

Burn him.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Apr 10th 2022 at 10:04:30 AM

Serges, Frost Walrus, Flame Stag, Apprentice duo.

As an aside, man, what it with Abigail Williams constantly getting HVU'd? In real life she was an Unwitting Instigator of Doom and a little kid. The actual ringleader of the bad-faith actors at Salem was a Rich Jerk named Thomas Putnam; wonder if we'll ever see a CM version of him?

Morgan, Horvath, Walrus, & Dan

Yes to Maxwell. Mind getting him today so I can get him and the other dude?

Edited by ACW on Apr 10th 2022 at 11:06:57 AM

W: I'll get to him later today, yes.

Cool. So let me just do the others now (next page).