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NonexistentYeets The Enforcer from Nightcored Realm (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
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#1: Aug 12th 2023 at 8:56:22 PM

This came up during the cleanup of Becoming the Mask's Real Life page, and I'd like more input. I'm pretty sure these examples aren't Becoming the Mask, but I'm not sure what trope they go on.

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  • Lalla Ward once said in a Doctor Who Magazine interview that the reason she and Tom Baker got married was because they played the Doctor and Romana Like an Old Married Couple, and then mistook that for actually being in love.
  • It is quite common that actors portraying characters who are close friends will also become friends in Real Life.
    • William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy were almost as close as Captain Kirk and Commander Spock are. They were also both very close with DeForest Kelley, who played Dr McCoy.
    • Cirroc Lofton and Avery Brooks of Deep Space Nine developed a real son-father type relationship away from the set.
    • The actors who play Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson always seem to end up being extremely close friends in real life. Casting for modern adaptations mainly focused on the chemistry of the two leads so they would invoke this trope.
      • Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke are prime examples: Hardwicke, who played Watson from "The Empty House" onward, would try to help Brett while he was battling bipolar disorder.
      • Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch (Watson and Sherlock in Sherlock) are either really good friends and very close to each other or extremely good at faking it.
    • Frasier actors Kelsey Grammer and John Mahoney. After Mahoney passed away in 2018, Grammer honored him by saying "He was my father, and I loved him.", adding that Mahoney played his father longer than he knew his own father and that he never had a brother either, meaning that the relationship with both men was very much like family.
    • The core cast of Boy Meets World (Ben Savage, Danielle Fishel, Rider Strong, and Will Friedle) have all become True Companions in Real Life, much as their characters (Cory, Topanga, Shawn, and Eric, respectively) did on the show. Three of the four (all but Savage) launched the podcast Pod Meets World in 2022, in which they rewatch and comment on BMW episodes.
    • Jack Klugman and Tony Randall when they played Oscar and Felix, respectively on The Odd Couple (1970). Initially, both of them would have preferred to work with an actor that they'd co-starred with in their earlier performances of the original play. However, they very quickly bonded in the pursuit of an ever-funnier show-they'd argue all the time at work, sure, but it was always about the script and perfecting the scenes, never about them personally. Years later Klugman actually wrote a book in tribute to his and Randall's friendship, titled Tony and Me: A Story of Friendship.
    • The converse of this is sadly also possible. Warren Mitchell and Anthony Booth, who played a feuding father- and son-in-law duo in Till Death Us Do Part came to loathe each other in real life. Mitchell still cannot bring himself to refer to Booth by his first name.
    • The late Russi Taylor and the also late Wayne Allwine, the previous voices of Mickey and Minnie Mouse, developed a romance after meeting each other for the first time while on the job, and were married till Allwine's passing.
    • Gates McFadden and Wil Wheaton played mother and son Dr. Beverly and Wesley Crusher on Star Trek: The Next Generation, and maintained that bond beyond TNG, with Wil frequently referring to Gates as "Space Mom".
    • The original core cast of the Avengers apparently still maintain a WhatsApp group, years after half of them have left the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

So, from what I can tell from the descriptions and examples, Becoming the Mask is distinct from Lost in Character for 2 reasons: one, the person who gets lost in character in LIC is a professional actor playing a fictional role, and two, everybody including the actor knows the role is fictional, whereas Becoming the Mask covers various forms of cons and masquerades where the person wearing the metaphorical mask knows it's fake, but those they interact with don't and once they start believing it, so does the mask-wearer.

Given that, I'm pretty confident that these examples from the Real Life page aren't proper Becoming the Mask examples, since they concern professional actors who played fictional characters with given relationships becoming friends / romantic partners in real life. However, I don't think they belong on Lost in Character either because they're not taking on their characters' personality traits, just the dynamic. What trope would these belong on? I was thinking the closest would be Romantic Fakeā€“Real Turn, but I'm not sure if it's flexible enough to cover the platonic examples. Would it be worth TLP'ing a new trivia item about actors who played friends becoming friends in real life for this concept?

Edited by NonexistentYeets on Aug 12th 2023 at 11:56:55 AM

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#2: Aug 13th 2023 at 1:08:01 AM

Honestly, I don't think those examples belong anywhere. Being friends with one's coworkers is very common; merely being an actor doesn't make it notable. I don't see the need for a platonic version of Romance on the Set.

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#3: Aug 13th 2023 at 10:18:34 AM

We have Friendship on the Set.

The issue with those examples is that Becoming the Mask means that someone initiates a deception only to be drawn into the lie they have created. Philosophically Becoming the Mask and Method Acting are related, but one is a narrative trope and the other is a form of acting. For a real-life example to work it has to resemble the narrative trope aspect and not just be vaguely similar. "We were pretending to be best friends and BECAME best friends" just means given proximity the two of them always had the chance to be friends, it doesn't mean the nature of their characters bled into their real personalities.

A hypothetical Real Life example would be that an actor was timid and lacked confidence but gets a role as an assertive, confident martial arts. The actor then credits the training and the role with helping them gain a passion for martial arts and is now much more confident.

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NonexistentYeets The Enforcer from Nightcored Realm (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
The Enforcer
#4: Aug 14th 2023 at 8:50:25 AM

OK, thanks for bringing up Friendship on the Set; that's what I was looking for. I already purged the method acting examples for ones that were actually closer to the trope definition on the previous cleanup thread; I just left the friendship ones briefly because I wasn't sure where to put them.

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