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Oct 17th 2021 at 9:55:29 PM

Important Character Important Evidence is a trope that's over 10 years old but has only 19 wicks, 16 of which are actually examples (the remainder are indices).

The trope is defined as "The only characters in a story who find good evidence are important characters in the story, no matter how improbable that may be." It's basically The Main Characters Do Everything in an investigative context. But it's rarely used, and it's almost never used correctly. Most examples are either no-context or are nothing more than "important character finds important clue".

The page itself is in no better shape than the off-page examples; while there are a few entries there not found in the wicks, most of them are ZC Es, general examples, or just plain non-examples. I saw three that were solidly on the mark, and one is already wicked.

As things currently stand, I would argue that the best path forward is to cut and merge with The Main Characters Do Everything — four valid examples in ten years just isn't common enough to justify the split.

A complete wick check revealed the following:

Full Results:

    Correct Use (2/16; 13%) 

    "Important Character finds/provides a piece of key evidence" (8/16; 50%) 

    Unclear/Other Misuse (2/16; 13%) 
  • Fanfic.We Werent Born To Follow: * Important Character Important Evidence: Reborn needs the why Ienari is so willing to kill Tsuna. He has already gotten the reason why everyone in Namimori with the exception of the squad is hostile to Tsuna. Ayame has both answers, and only intends to reveal the former if Reborn can get Ienari to become Vongola Decimo. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with the actual trope.
  • Literature.Azure Rain: * Important Character Important Evidence: Baltan and Eureka have Azzie, who is walking evidence, and then meet Lleuwellyn, who like them has firsthand knowledge of the killer and his methods. Subverted in that Naesa, a minor character, managed to track Selkess to his main area of operation before Baltan figured out where it was. The "subversion" shows that the story isn't actually an example

    Zero-Context Examples (4/16; 25%) 

    Indices/Other (Not Counted) 

Edited by HeavyMetalHermitCrab on Oct 17th 2021 at 9:56:40 AM

jandn2014 Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot from somewhere in Connecticut Relationship Status: Hiding
Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot
Berrenta Winter is coming... from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Winter is coming...
Eiryu Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Synchronicity practically an avenger Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
practically an avenger
WarJay77 The cutest little monster from The Void Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
selkies Hiatus Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Hiatus
Tabs from now on
Oct 18th 2021 at 1:48:50 PM

Another vote to merge.

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
Oct 18th 2021 at 8:48:47 PM

The main character is Cut N. Merge Man!

His important evidence requires cutting unnecessary tropes and merging them into a more general trope.

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GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Ordeaux26 Morton's Fork Slasher Smile from Minecraft Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
Oct 21st 2021 at 11:05:06 AM

Well, that's 13 votes for cutting/merging to 0 against, and no other suggested courses of action. Is that enough to call?

GastonRabbit A real nowhere man from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Oct 21st 2021 at 7:18:09 PM

[up]I hollered to ask, since this thread has been open for at least three days.

When my fist clenches, crack it open before I use it and lose my cool.
SeptimusHeap MOD Christmas worms from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
Oct 22nd 2021 at 1:12:09 AM

Looks like consensus is for cutting Important Character Important Evidence and merging it to The Main Characters Do Everything. Make it so!

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Oct 22nd 2021 at 1:45:17 AM

I'll do the cut+merge and wick cleaning when I get home.

Edited by Piterpicher on Oct 22nd 2021 at 10:46:08 AM

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Synchronicity practically an avenger Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
practically an avenger
Oct 22nd 2021 at 7:28:59 AM

Got the wicks, moved on-page examples with good context, left a note on the discussion page, and sent it packing to the Cut List.

Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Oct 22nd 2021 at 8:02:00 AM

But I did say I'll do it later today? though considering my page says I'm free on Fridays I should have been clearer what I was doing and when I'd be back (had to do some documents and testing and it took a while, got back a few minutes ago)... Oh well, live and learn.

Edited by Piterpicher on Oct 22nd 2021 at 5:06:04 PM

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Synchronicity practically an avenger Relationship Status: I've got a total eclipse of the heart
practically an avenger
Oct 22nd 2021 at 8:07:48 AM

I'm not trying to upstage you, Piter. Like everyone else here I want threads cleared out quickly, and I had some spare time.

Piterpicher Dislikes soulless stuff from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Dislikes soulless stuff
Oct 22nd 2021 at 8:12:53 AM

I understand that's the case. Still think it could have gone better, but I won't grovel since you've just done your job.

Edited by Piterpicher on Oct 22nd 2021 at 5:13:06 PM

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