Fallen Creator cleanup

Are we even allowed to?

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Edit: I just did it here Fallen Creator

Edited by randomtroper89 on Mar 12th 2022 at 8:30:01 AM

Just asking, did Microsoft buy Activision-Blizzard yet?

That's good. What should be fixed up first?

Not yet. Besides, it doesn't matter too much with regards to this trope.

Comic creators are a real mess

The Radio folder has so much outdated information.

I have clarified that he was in his late 50s during the early 2010s (in the sandbox version of the page).

Edited by Nen_desharu on Mar 17th 2022 at 6:38:00 AM

Is Howard Stern even doing much now? The last I heard was that he'd moved from terrestrial radio to SiriusXM, and that was years ago.

I can't find anything with search or looking (so far), so I'll ask: has Louis CK been brought up?

He's still working, but he may never be at the level he once was, with multi-million dollar deals going.

I am unsure if Howard Stern is still active, especially given that podcasts nowadays can make Stern rather tame in comparison.

I don't think that anyone remembers him or any of his controversies anymore.

I am leaning towards "cut."

Edited by Nen_desharu on Mar 18th 2022 at 4:37:46 AM

Yeah, cut as well.

There's a factual inaccuracy in the Ken Penders section. He didn't sue Archie for control of his characters; he tried to claim them as his intellectual property, prompting Archie to sue him.

Howard Stern has been axed (in the sandbox version).

Edited by Nen_desharu on Mar 18th 2022 at 12:19:50 PM

Gonna add Joss Whedon when I have the chance.

I'm removing Kevin Costner from the Sandbox. He's had much more respect and esteem ever since he's done Hatfields and Mc Coys. Might add Yuji Naka soon. Dude's current output is sad, but given his attitude in the past, some might see it as karma.

Is Butch Hartman on the page yet? He's pretty much one of the most hated creators ever due to the OAXIS Kickstarter along with the lack of quality in his recent shows.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Apr 8th 2022 at 8:04:16 AM

Come up with an entry and we'll add it to the sandbox.

Taking a look at the sandbox, the Sonic Team entry is in major need of an update. For starters, it lists Sonic the Hedgehog 4 and Sonic And Sega All-Stars Racing as Sonic Team titles when both were made by outside studios. Additionally, it should be amended how Sonic Forces' lukewarm reception and the acclaim of Sonic Mania, a game by Promoted Fanboys, damaged fan confidence in Sonic Team. I suggest the following rewrite:

• Sonic Team. Sonic the Hedgehog used to be a worldwide icon and the only real challenge to Mario's domination of platform games. The Sega Genesis entries in the series are still considered great games. Then Sonic went 3D. For most fans and critics, most of the 3D Sonic games have a bad camera, broken controls, and too many characters, and Sonic Team has lost its old glory to them. It started with the two Sonic Adventures, which were worthy additions to the series despite being plagued by fundamental problems. Sonic Heroes marked the teetering edge of the abyss, Shadow the Hedgehog was made on the way down, and Sonic 2006 was the echoing crash of the series finally hitting rock bottom. Since then, the franchise has been making significant progress at climbing back up, but it still struggles with the basics like camera controls, physics, glitches, and fair level design. Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations improved their reputation a bit, presenting creative and ambitious game ideas in the series' trademark rough and fractured frame and helping win back disillusioned fans. Unfortunately, this renaissance proved to be short-lived, as Sonic Lost World and Sonic Forces both received lukewarm reactions from critics and fans. To add insult to injury, Sonic Mania, a game developed by Promoted Fanboys Christian Whitehead, Stealth, and Headcannon Studios, received rapturous reception from critics and fans while releasing the same year as the Sonic Team-developed Forces, damaging fan confidence in Sonic Team as a studio.

Edited by Pemulis_128 on May 6th 2022 at 11:03:48 AM

I would remove the following sentences.

Also Loads And Loads Of Characters is now a disambiguation per TRS so that link needs to be changed to another trope or removed.

Made some tweaks to the rewrite based on your suggestions.

Would Oliver Stone be an example of a Fallen Creator? His older films were well acclaimed despite having specific tracts but not only were his later films much less positively received…his more problematic and conspiratorial behavior was more blatant there.

The fact that he bascically decided to do apologia pieces for some rather dubious and outright vile political figures is the icing on the cake. And he’s widely known for this and his tracts more than his earlier sucesses.

Edited by xie323 on May 8th 2022 at 7:06:44 AM

Now that R. Kelly has been sentenced to 25 years in prison, it's now time to add him.

Yuji Naka was brought up here a few months ago simply on the basis of Balan Wonderworld's failure, but now his recent behaviour and antagonism towards Naoto Ohshima on Twitter has sullied his reputation even more, on top of stories floating around about him being difficult to work with on projects like Sonic Adventure. Perhaps he should have a spot here now?

Edited by BSonirachi on Jul 7th 2022 at 8:11:37 PM

i'd say we wait a little longer before we add him.

I am going to nominate Graham Linehan for this trope. I feel like he's become this now rather than merely being Overshadowed by Controversy, as he has received no work since 2017 and remains a pariah in the tv industry as a whole:

• Graham Linehan was once a highly respected sitcom writer responsible for Father Ted, Black Books and The IT Crowd, which remain beloved comedy classics in both Ireland and the UK. However in the 2010s his creative output was eclipsed by his increasingly vocal transphobic views and activism, including his support for J. K. Rowling and praise for anti-trans protesters at a Pride event, which eventually resulted in his twitter account being permanently suspended. These days, Linehan remains a pariah in the television industry and amongst his former colleagues, and he has received no work since 2017.

Thoughts? I tried to be as concise as possible, hopefully I've included everything necessary.

Edited by Atlantis1930 on Oct 12th 2022 at 5:35:26 PM