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On this thread, you can share your ideas with the masses before making that TLP draft, so if there's any lingering uncertainty about the validity of your idea or you just want some help pinning down a good idea, ask away and help others out, too!

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With that out of the way: Let's discuss some ideas.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#2051: May 15th 2021 at 7:54:49 PM

I believe we call that Technicolor Eyes.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2052: May 15th 2021 at 8:05:53 PM

[up] - That's Impossible Eye Color.

Implausible is like a redhead with... brown eyes?

Or Implausible Hair Color's first example:

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#2053: May 15th 2021 at 8:19:26 PM

That sounds like an appearance trope and that's gonna be a hard sell, especially when Technicolor Eyes is probably a more tropeworthy version of a similar concept.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#2054: May 15th 2021 at 8:22:39 PM

Especially when those color combinations aren't that implausible. Rare, but we can't make a trope out of something that isn't THAT rare IRL. I shudder to think of how many instances we'd get of live-action examples, where this only exists because the actor actually looks like that. Hair color is easier to change and stands out more.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2055: May 16th 2021 at 1:09:09 AM

Aye, the trope for impossible/improbable eye colours is Technicolor Eyes.

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wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#2056: May 16th 2021 at 9:50:00 AM

On the note of mobile games and the ways they monetize, there's a recurring mechanic about watching ads for a bonus. It's kinda like Bribing Your Way to Victory, but you don't pay them directly.

Disco Zoo gives you extra rescue attempts, A Girl Adrift doubles your rewards from Legendary battles...

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#2057: May 16th 2021 at 11:15:28 AM

[up]South Park: Phone Destroyer gives you extra packs and lockers to open if you watch an ad. My Little Pony (Gameloft) allows you to watch an ad for extra Gems and then the game crashes mid-ad because the game is built like shit.

Definitely feels like a thing.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 16th 2021 at 2:16:46 PM

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#2058: May 16th 2021 at 11:16:46 AM

Yeah, Ad Bonus is definitely a thing that exists.

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#2059: May 16th 2021 at 1:08:30 PM

Yes it's a thing. [up] And that sounds like a nice, concise name for it.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2060: May 16th 2021 at 5:46:17 PM

~Imperial Majesty XO: "You know, I think we might have a Missing Supertrope on our hands."

In regards to my:

Well, the ideas of love and lust are very close? I'd say we should go with Love, because Valentines Day and stuff, then find / make a trope about how love and lust are conflated.

Sex Equals Love is not it. Romance and Sexuality Separation aren't it either...

... So we aren't derailing the TLP.

My working name: Lust Love Link. For alliteration and simplicity. Not sure if Love should go first or second...

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#2061: May 16th 2021 at 5:47:44 PM

I think Love Lust Link sounds better, but I have no idea why.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#2062: May 16th 2021 at 5:49:44 PM

[up][up] I could go either way. Maybe we could keep the other as a redirect if we end up going with one of those.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2064: May 16th 2021 at 7:56:15 PM

For Ad Bonus, it often that or paid subscription.

Don't forget that often, ad bonuses collect personal information.

Kirby is awesome.
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#2065: May 17th 2021 at 7:38:25 AM

I will make a draft for Ad Bonus when I have access to my laptop and wifi. I've been saving a draft with some examples for it (I think I wanted the name Ad Reward, though).

For LLL, I have no opinion what is the better name or feel like doing it, sorry.

Edited by Piterpicher on May 17th 2021 at 4:39:24 PM

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#2066: May 17th 2021 at 8:33:51 AM

I find Ad Bonus to be more catchy.

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GoldenDarkness Since: Jan, 2001
#2067: May 17th 2021 at 11:55:42 AM

I've been thinking. Would the idea of murder mysteries that where the supernatural is suspected be a trope? By that when investigating the death, there would be some people who claim that it is the result of a curse, ghost, urban legend. This could end with the investigation proving that there are mundane reasons to the death, with the culprit usually taking advantage of the local beliefs, although during said investigation it could play with the possibility that the supernatural stuff is true.

GoldenDarkness Since: Jan, 2001
#2069: May 17th 2021 at 12:12:02 PM

Really? I thought that only applied to culprits pretending to be a supernatural being. I was thinking more of planting evidence or making look like the death was the result of the supernatural. Would the culprit not doing anything to make it look like it is the supernatural and let the locals believe make a difference?

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2070: May 17th 2021 at 6:50:27 PM

[up]x5

I prefer something like Ad Viewing Bonus as Ad Bonus could be interpreted as an alternative to paid subscription.

Ad Viewing Bonus can also be applied to YouTube creators as they gain some revenue from viewers viewing the ads in the videos.

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 17th 2021 at 9:51:53 AM

Kirby is awesome.
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#2071: May 17th 2021 at 6:58:47 PM

I prefer something like Ad Viewing Bonus as Ad Bonus could be interpreted as an alternative to paid subscription.

I think this concept is flexible enough to cover "free with ads" concepts. The core idea is "watching advertisements allows privileges you'd otherwise have to pay to get."

...Maybe Free With Ads could be another possible trope name?

Ad Viewing Bonus can also be applied to You Tube creators as they gain some revenue from viewers viewing the ads in the videos.

This, on the other hand, doesn't fit the trope. The one viewing the ads has to be the one receiving the bonus. Every company that puts ads out there gets revenue from them — that isn't a trope.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 17th 2021 at 9:59:40 AM

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#2072: May 18th 2021 at 1:25:42 AM

Is the idea of a "Surprisingly Normal Celebrity" a trope? Basically, where a character meets an in-universe celebrity and they turn out to just be a normal, down-to-Earth person, and they bond? Doesn't necessarily have to be a "celebrity" in the way we think of it since I can think of a few examples where the character is royalty and this sort of thing still applies. It's more of just the subversion of expectations- where the audience sort of anticipates that the richer and more famous someone is, the less relatable and normal they'll be, so showing them to be just as human and just as average as the protagonist is ends up being more surprising. This also means that they're usually a victim of the pressures placed on them; they're usually shown to be acting on the whims of people with actual power (often their parents) and have to act a certain way and do certain things, even if behind the scenes they're much different.

Or, in a less ramble-y way: It's a trope for when celebrities are portrayed as normal people who just happen to be famous, and who have aspirations and dreams beyond their status as a celebrity. They may have to wear a mask at first and keep up with the expectations placed on them, but they subvert the expectation for them to be somehow different from everyone else- detached and spoiled. It's similar to tropes like Spoiled Sweet, but less about being spoiled and pampered and more about being rich and famous, and it lacks the ditzy part since usually these characters are shown to be surprisingly smart and talented and deserving of their position.

I've seen it in a few places. I'm just wondering if it's an actual trope, and if so, if it should be narrowed to specifically "celebrities" or if the broader range (including characters we wouldn't typically consider celebrities, such as members of a royal family) works just as well. I'd also limit it to characters who aren't the protagonist, because part of the trope is them being able to bond with said protagonist and, in many cases, act as a love interest.

Right off the top of my head, a character who comes to mind immediately for this sort of thing is Chip Skylark, who Timmy initially assumed would be some jerkass until Chip admitted that he's just a broke teenager who's willing to give Timmy a birthday present. Not every example has this massive of a Bait-and-Switch, but there's pretty much always some element of surprise or buildup to the reveal that they're actually a normal person.

...Hopefully we don't have this, or else I wasted my time trying to articulate my idea instead of just going to TF [lol]

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Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#2073: May 19th 2021 at 1:39:11 AM

I don't know if we have this trope, but could it possibly work:

  • A character is important to the Story Arc and was on the Arc Villain 's team (in canon), normally you'd expect them to be there just for the season the Arc Villain is in, but in the adaptation they're kept on long past the Story Arc and remain important to the story and the protagonist, even though in the source material the character who was important was never seen again after the arc, not even in a cameo.

What I'm saying is, basically... the character continues in the adaptation long after their storyline which they were important to, and they're deemed too good to get rid of, and get more than just a cameo role.

Not sure we have a Media Adaptation Tropes trope for this, and I'm not talking Creator's Pet, since it's about giving a character in an adaptation some more appearances beyond their plotline when in canon, they appeared only for one Story Arc, and never got any further ones, not cameos.

Edited by Merseyuser1 on May 20th 2021 at 9:34:32 AM

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#2074: May 21st 2021 at 6:59:38 PM

Not sure if we want a Democracy disambig... For Comic Book and Video Game, and all the Politics Tropes...

Or make Democracy Tropes ripping out from Politics Tropes just so it's easier to target from a disambig.


Also, Adjective Focused Item And Description, or something phrased. Was thinking about my Adjectival Title Salvage which was removed... Like the Orbs of Epic Battle Fantasy 5 and BoxxyQuest: The Shifted Spires.

And then thought about my Redundant Flavor Text nuke...

Edited by Malady on May 21st 2021 at 7:06:37 AM

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Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2075: May 21st 2021 at 8:27:12 PM

I got an idea for a trope:

It has to do with a setting that is essentially made out of soft materials such as fabric and stuffing.

Video game examples include Kirby's Epic Yarn and Yoshi's Woolly World (the entire setting for both games). For Western Animation, the Darkwing Duck episode "Toys Czar Us" has the main setting become a toy town complete with the roads having fabric patches and filled with stuffing.

Note that this is different from both Toy Time and Everythings Better With Plushies. The setting is soft and fluffy, but not necessarily the characters. It's also distinct from Solid Clouds and Bubbly Clouds as the setting is soft due to fabric and/or stuffing.

I have some names: Fluffy Floor, Plush Land

What do you think?

Edited by Nen_desharu on May 21st 2021 at 11:32:26 AM

Kirby is awesome.

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