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Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

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#4076: Apr 12th 2022 at 6:14:13 PM

Maybe Drop the Cow needs TRS for being too vague? Either that or I'm just jumping to conclusions.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#4077: Apr 12th 2022 at 6:15:19 PM

I mean, it could get a wick check surely...[lol]

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#4078: Apr 12th 2022 at 6:16:25 PM

Maybe I will do one sometime. It sounds like the trope might be too vague.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#4079: Apr 12th 2022 at 7:52:37 PM

Oh it def needs TRS if only to clarify the description since the scope is kind of ambiguous until you look at the laconic.

But the question was if theres room for a trope for things like a cow appearing spontaneously or in a random location and that would be covered under the current version of Drop the Cow.

Edited by amathieu13 on Apr 12th 2022 at 10:52:58 AM

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#4080: Apr 12th 2022 at 8:18:32 PM

Then it's just a subtrope.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#4081: Apr 12th 2022 at 9:44:08 PM

It could be, but not a cow specific version as Twiddles suggested, I don't think. Runs into the exact same issue as has been discussed with a lot of the "Everything Is Better With" tropes. If its broadened to " any animal appearing suddenly for comedic purposes", that would be better.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#4082: Apr 12th 2022 at 9:46:16 PM

I didn't suggest a cow-specific version.

[…] I'm wondering if there's room for a trope about things, like cows, appearing in unexpecting situations for humor (like a humor version of Eerily Out-of-Place Object?), or if it's covered by Surreal Humor.

Probably also related to Non Sequitur.

Edited by Twiddler on Apr 12th 2022 at 9:58:49 AM

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#4083: Apr 12th 2022 at 10:00:46 PM

I read the "like cows" as more of an intention than an example, then. My mistake.

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#4084: Apr 12th 2022 at 11:53:00 PM

Many And I Must Scream examples are of people who are fully conscious yet completely unable to do anything. For And I Must Scream that is mostly misuse but “Prolonged unconciousness without control is a Fate Worse than Death” might be a valid trope.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#4085: Apr 13th 2022 at 12:09:08 AM

And I Must Scream will go to TRS once the And I Must Scream Wick Check is done. May as well save a split for then.

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#4086: Apr 13th 2022 at 12:22:24 AM

Can Only Move the Eyes has the definition that And I Must Scream is often misused for, but the title doesn't make that clear, so I added it to Tropes Needing TRS a while ago.

Jadabunz Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
#4087: Apr 13th 2022 at 9:48:34 AM

Have we a trope about Quirky Little Figurines?

Thinking about fictional ones like the G.U.Y.S in Steven Universe. Or Yondu's affection for Trolls in Guardians of the Galaxy or Jimmy bribing the clerk with Beanie Babies in Better Call Saul. Has anything of that sort been listed?

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#4088: Apr 13th 2022 at 11:08:04 AM

[up] Kinda reminds me of that King of the Hill episode where Hank's mum were using these cute figures to cope with her abusive marriage.

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#4089: Apr 13th 2022 at 11:14:31 AM

There's also a Beanie Babies parody in iCarly and the collector is depicted as unmanly and weird.

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#4090: Apr 13th 2022 at 11:18:08 AM

Ten from Transformers: More than Meets the Eye makes cute little scale figures of the cast to express his affection for them!

Edited by Palindromee on Apr 13th 2022 at 4:20:25 AM

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#4091: Apr 13th 2022 at 1:00:07 PM

Part of the thugs' Hidden Depths in Tangled: "And Vladimir collects ceramic unicorns..."

Jadabunz Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
#4092: Apr 13th 2022 at 1:27:03 PM

Did a little research. We have Kitsch Collection but it focuses more on the collectors than on the figurines themselves, and also includes other items like paintings. Do you think this would be a subtrope of that?

Edited by Jadabunz on Apr 13th 2022 at 1:28:21 AM

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#4093: Apr 13th 2022 at 4:30:53 PM

Edna Walker just started a sandbox for animals and their stock cartoon forms. Anyone got any examples?

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EdnaWalker Since: Mar, 2010
#4094: Apr 13th 2022 at 4:34:14 PM

two more sandboxes, Stock Cartoon Monkey and Stock Cartoon Songbird. Have any idea on description and examples?

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#4095: Apr 13th 2022 at 4:46:03 PM

Um, I don't think we need a trope for every stock animal portrayal. One supertrope is enough.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#4096: Apr 13th 2022 at 5:08:34 PM

Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't really get it.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#4097: Apr 13th 2022 at 5:35:38 PM

[up][up][up]small rant incoming but this was kind of the thing I was afraid of since we recently had a stock penguin and a stock alligator trope go through the TLP. i get there's a pattern of representation but if all of the examples are just some version of "yes, the animal in this work indeed follows the stock depiction as laid out in the trope description", I feel like it'd be much better to just merge them all into one definition-only supertrope and be done with it....

ElBuenCuate Since: Oct, 2010
#4098: Apr 13th 2022 at 6:10:57 PM

Indeed. I was not convinced about those drafts, but couldn't say anything against them. But in aggregate, just creating different stock drafts for dogs, sheep, fish, etc; it will simply create too much clutter.

EdnaWalker Since: Mar, 2010
#4099: Apr 14th 2022 at 2:30:25 AM

[up][up] Here's the stock alligator trope, Green Gators.

AmourLeFou You'll never find out who I am from Colorado Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
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#4100: Apr 14th 2022 at 9:24:50 AM

Green Gators is a subtrope of Typical Cartoon Animal Colors but is not about stock alligator depictions. Even when alligators are drawn realistically, they're still depicted as green.

And nobody's saying we should have pages for every stock animal depiction. We just think a stock animal supertrope should have at least 4 subtrope pages, like how Stock Food Depictions has Cartoon Meat, Cartoon Cheese, ISO-Standard Urban Groceries, and Every Pizza Is Pepperoni.

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