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Jun 26th 2019 at 1:24:10 PM

So we can start dewicking?

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bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jun 26th 2019 at 1:31:45 PM

[up] I'm not sure if we need a mod to call the crowner first.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Fighteer MOD Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Jun 26th 2019 at 1:42:59 PM

We are good to go with this. Starring for final action. Start the wick cleanup.

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Crossover-Enthusiast Plotting something from somewhere doing something Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Plotting something
Jun 26th 2019 at 1:47:51 PM

What do we do with the The Internet Is For Scorn redirect? It's got 6 inbounds and 1 wick, and that's just to YMMV Redirects.

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bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jun 26th 2019 at 1:52:50 PM

[up] I vote cut. I didn't even know that page was a thing, and we're not really using it.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
Jun 26th 2019 at 3:18:03 PM

[up][up] I also vote cut since it's an unused snowclone redirect to a page that was decided to be made Flame Bait.

Mickoonsley19 I love 'Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf'! from Green Green Grassland Relationship Status: It's complicated
Jun 26th 2019 at 3:53:07 PM

Some wicks are In-Universe fictional examples, are those still allowed?

Edited by Mickoonsley19 on Jun 26th 2019 at 3:53:38 AM

bitemytail from Arizona Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Jun 26th 2019 at 3:54:48 PM

Indexes aren't tropes, so they should be moved to a more appropriate trope, assuming one exists.

Health sure is versatile. It's possible to be both light-headed and dim-witted. At the same time, no less.
RamenChef IP Regular from UTC-6:00 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
IP Regular
Jun 26th 2019 at 4:14:00 PM

[up][up]In-Universe examples of Flame Bait are allowed, but you should add [[invoked]] to the bullet to clear the special marking.

[down]I asked in ATT a while back if I could add Mary Sue tropes to Ensign Sue Must Die (where they were intentional), and a mod confirmed that they are allowed.

Edited by RamenChef on Jun 26th 2019 at 6:23:31 AM

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Jun 26th 2019 at 4:14:59 PM

[up][up][up] The Flame Bait category forbids In-Universe examples, too. If an appropriate Sub-Trope cannot be found, it must be deleted.


Edit — there seems to be some debate on this, citations to follow:

Edited by crazysamaritan on Jun 26th 2019 at 9:08:35 AM

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
GastonRabbit "Air quotes" from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
"Air quotes"
Jun 26th 2019 at 6:50:36 PM

Since this hasn't already been added to the Flame Bait index, I posted a request in the Locked Pages thread. I figured adding it to the index before dewicking is complete would at least slow down the addition of new wicks (due to the Flame Bait icon appearing in example lists), hence why I'm posting the request now.

(I was out of town for most of the afternoon, including when the crowner was called, so I didn't post the request as soon as I usually would.)

Edit: I cross-referenced this thread in the complaining cleanup thread, since I had mentioned seeing examples show up there.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 26th 2019 at 9:19:38 AM

"...the Linux philosophy is "laugh in the face of danger". Oops. Wrong one. "Do it yourself". That's it." —Linus Torvalds
RamenChef IP Regular from UTC-6:00 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
IP Regular
Jun 26th 2019 at 7:00:48 PM

[up][up]For What Goes Where on the Wiki, on that very same page, under "exceptions":

* If YMMV, Trivia, or Flame Bait items happen In-Universe, are invoked, or are part of a Show Within a Show, we treat them like an objective trope. Make sure to explicitly mention the example is "In-Universe" or "invoked". It turns off the YMMV flagger and makes sure it doesn't get moved by mistake. You can also use the [[invoked]] markup, which does the same without appearing in the text at all.

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CharlesPhipps Author from Ashland, Ky Relationship Status: Lovey-Dovey
Author
Jun 26th 2019 at 8:04:22 PM

Well I just made an Internet Backdraft page to clean up the crap on the Vampire: The Masquerade 5th Edition page. It practically drowned it previously and it was an enormous pain the ass to wade through all the examples (that were all relevant to the subject) to get to the positive stuff.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/InternetBackdraft/VampireTheMasqueradeFifthEdition

It was very useful as a separate page.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 26th 2019 at 8:05:34 AM

Author of The Supervillainy Saga, Cthulhu Armageddon, The United States of Monsters, and Lucifer's Star.
GastonRabbit "Air quotes" from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
"Air quotes"
Jun 26th 2019 at 8:35:05 PM

[up]All examples have to go due to the Flame Bait designation. That page isn't being singled out.

"...the Linux philosophy is "laugh in the face of danger". Oops. Wrong one. "Do it yourself". That's it." —Linus Torvalds
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GastonRabbit "Air quotes" from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
"Air quotes"
Jun 26th 2019 at 8:49:34 PM

[up]8.8 as well.

"...the Linux philosophy is "laugh in the face of danger". Oops. Wrong one. "Do it yourself". That's it." —Linus Torvalds
GastonRabbit "Air quotes" from Robinson, Illinois, USA Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
"Air quotes"
Jun 26th 2019 at 8:58:09 PM

Update: This is now tagged as Flame Bait.

Edit: Tweaked the description's "No examples, please" text a bit. I'll probably do some dewicking tomorrow, but I'm too tired right now.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 26th 2019 at 11:18:28 AM

"...the Linux philosophy is "laugh in the face of danger". Oops. Wrong one. "Do it yourself". That's it." —Linus Torvalds
Jun 26th 2019 at 9:30:48 PM

For cleanup: here's the wicks. 2327 wick to cut.

Should this go under Trope Epitaph (Badass which is also dewicked is there), or wait until we're almost finished dewicking?

DanteVin Nier of Granblue from Whatever dimension this is Relationship Status: P.S. I love you
Nier of Granblue
Jun 26th 2019 at 9:58:53 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]You may also add He Panned It, Now He Sucks! for when fans hate a journalist/critic for bashing a work.

Daisuki Die-suki
Jun 26th 2019 at 11:08:06 PM

Earlier in this thread, a list was made of potential items that would be placed on the index here, which includes brief reasons why they fall under Internet Backdraft. Should we include the reasons when we add the index?

Edited by ADrago on Jun 26th 2019 at 2:08:26 PM

Jun 27th 2019 at 2:55:16 AM

[up][tup] to including reasons. Do we have a name for the index?

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Jun 27th 2019 at 7:01:52 AM

Wait...If Internet Backdraft is something that causes issues just when brought up, and Broken Base and Base-Breaking Character have 6-month periods...what's the thing for something fans don't like but doesn't need a six-month waiting?

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Jun 27th 2019 at 7:24:38 AM

This is why I often do research for recurring problems: Previous Thread already said it joins Definition-Only Pages, and even In-Universe examples are cut.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Jun 27th 2019 at 7:28:36 AM

[up][up] The simple answer is: there is not a trope for that, because "things fans don't like" is not a trope and never will be. It's a unfortunate fact of existence, like sunburn, maggots, and Republicans.

Edited by Fighteer on Jun 27th 2019 at 10:29:44 AM

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What should be done with Internet Backdraft? Options 2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive with each other, but option 1 is mutually exclusive with all other options.

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