During the investigation of recent hollers in the Complete Monster thread, it's become apparent to the staff that an insular, unfriendly culture has evolved in the Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard threads that is causing problems.
Specific issues include:
- Overzealous hollers on tropers who come into the threads without being familiar with all the rules and traditions of the tropes. And when they are familiar with said rules and traditions, they get accused (with little evidence) of being ban evaders.
- A few tropers in the thread habitually engage in snotty, impolite mini-modding. There are also regular complaints about excessive, offtopic "socializing" posts.
- Many many thread regulars barely post/edit anywhere else, making the threads look like they are divorced from the rest of TV Tropes.
- Following that, there are often complaints about the threads and their regulars violating wiki rules, such as on indexing, crosswicking, example context and example categorization. Some folks are working on resolving the issues, but...
- Often moderator action against thread regulars leads to a lot of participants suddenly showing up in the moderation threads to protest and speak on their behalf, like a clique.
It is not a super high level problem, but it has been going on for years and we cannot ignore it any longer. There will be a thread in Wiki Talk
to discuss the problem; in the meantime there is a moratorium on further Complete Monster and Magnificent Bastard example discussion until we have gotten this sorted out.
Update: The new threads have been made and can be found here:
for the earliest date a work can be discussed, (usually two weeks from the US release), as well as who's reserved discussion.
- Why do a cleanup?: This trope definitely exists and has a well documented history of use. That being said, it frequently gets misused to a character who meets one of the components, namely that they are smart, charming while not necessarily even being a villain, or create good plans. While these are components, there is also a certain personality required, not to mention that all of the above are required to be present for a character to be a true Magnificent Bastard. As the trope attracts interest, it unfortunately brings in a lot of misuse and I thought the best way to rectify this would be a Perpetual Cleanup Thread, as is being done and has seen success with Complete Monster.
- What makes a Magnificent Bastard: Below is a list of the individual components to make this character. Note that they must all be present, not just some, which has lead to frequent misuse:
- Must be intelligent: Goes without saying, to be a Magnificent Bastard, the character has to be smart in the first place and use their brain to work towards whatever their end goal may be;
- Must be a Bastard: While going overboard in how vile the character is can be detrimental, a key aspect is the Bastard part of the trope, whether the character is an out-and-out antagonist in the work, some manner of Villain Protagonist, or something in between, they at least have some unscrupulous qualities to qualify for this trope;
- Must not be too detestable: Again, there is a ceiling on how bad the character can be before they just become too nefarious, blocking out the Magnificent part of the trope. A genocidal racist or child-raping Sadist aren't going to make the cut;
- Think on their feet: In addition to being a Chessmaster, a Magnificent Bastard, if the character deals with situations in which their initial plan is ruined, has to be able to pull a Xanatos Speed Chess and at least come up with a competent strategy to make up for lost time, otherwise they fail for being unable to think in tough spots;
- Have charm: Even if they don't necessarily make every character they meet fall in love with them and can even be detested by others, the audience has to find an amicable social relation to the character, or they are failing to make the impact required for this trope.
- What to do if a character is listed on a page but has not been approved?: They need to be removed, all candidates need to come through the cleanup thread first. The character could well count but they need to be analyzed properly and voted on first.
- Do we list Playing With this trope?: No; as a YMMV trope, this cannot be Played With, so we only want examples that are Played Straight.
- What do I do if I want a character to be listed as a Magnificent Bastard?: The greatest success Complete Monster saw for its cleanup effort was from the invention of the effort post format, so, borrowing from that, a troper wishing to propose a Magnificent Bastard will create such a post in the following format:
- Begin by describing The work, this will help establish the setting the character is in and for the reader to understand what kind of a scenario they are in;
- Summarize The character's actions, this will provide a listing for readers to understand what they do and how it applies to this trope because charm and lack of smugness are so crucial, this is a good time to be incorporating exactly the flavor of how they operate to explain this;
- List circumstances in which the character must Think on their feet, these are times where a wrench might be thrown in their initial plan and they have to adapt on the spot or even come up with a new scheme all together, this is also a good time to explain how the villain reacts to defeat when they have to face it, a true Magnificent Bastard won't break down into tears at the thought of death, they should have known such a possibility could occur and be able to handle it with more dignity;
- The competition, similar to the Heinous Standard dealt with for a Complete Monster, this section is to deal with how successful the character is in carrying out their plans compared to other characters. While, as a villain, they probably are going to lose in the end, it is good to explain how other characters handle the same situation. There is no exceptionalism case to be made for this trope but explaining the variety helps the reader have a better understanding of the proposal.
- How do you know when the character's arc is done so they can be proposed? When their tenure as a villain or antagonist finishes. This could happen in a single Story Arc in an entire work, a single work of a franchise, or the whole series in general. We'll show lenience to Long-Runners with constantly recurring candidates or series with outstanding continuities (ex. comic books), and it's entirely possible to count in a work or two but not in general for a reason like Depending on the Writer.
- What about candidates evil because of external sources? Those Made of Evil can qualify if they show enough individuality and tactical acumen — in other words, they have the personality to fulfill the magnificence requirement. Conversely, those brainwashed, especially if they're a better person without it, may fail the individuality aspect and cannot count.
- What if they are under orders from a higher-up? Depends. If the boss created the plans down to the letter and the candidate is just following them, sounds like we should discuss the boss instead. However, if the candidate takes creative liberties with the orders, adds their own charm and flair to them, fills in holes in the orders, and/or actively deals with obstacles their boss did not talk about, the candidate shows enough individual thinking to qualify.
- What about Character Development? An MB is something a character can develop into... a nice person who plots well might become more morally gray as the work goes on and hits the "Bastard" criteria, thus making them viable. Likewise, a Smug Snake might shed their ego, become more understanding of the threat others pose and gain the personality or "Magnificent" criteria, likewise making them viable. Conversely, a character who looks like this trope might suffer from a Sanity Slippage or just get outed as not being as smart as they thought they were and become incompatible with MB.
- Can an MB be a good guy? Not in the conventional sense... it is required they have at least some dubious traits lest they fail the "Bastard" criteria. That being said, a character who pulls a Heel–Face Turn or eventually stops taking villainous actions is still fair game: as there was a point in time where they were both "Magnificent" and a "Bastard" at the same time and they've merely adapted as time goes on. Now... if such a character begins showing other issues (i.e.: becomes prone to freak outs or starts getting outwitted) then they're compromising their Magnificence and will probably be deemed a cut. What's important is stylishly operating while at least for some time being willing to take at best underhanded methods to see a job done. A Heel–Face Turn in itself isn't a disqualifier but they do have to have been "Magnificent" and a "Bastard" at the same time and afterwards can't start slipping on the former front.
- What about characters whose stories can take different routes?: When proposing a character in a form of media that has them in multiple story routes. Said character must be consistent with their characteristics in all routes. (ex.: Can't have an example who shows promise on one route yet fails in another.) The only exception is if a later installment of the series confirms the character's actions which made them worth proposing are the canon route.
- Is there a timeframe rule like with Complete Monster?: Yes, please wait two weeks until after the work has concluded before proposing a character (again, usually using the North American air date). As is the case with CM, we want to give a reasonable time frame so that everyone interested in seeing the work has done so and can participate in the discussion without having anything spoiled.
- What about groups like with Complete Monster?: This is a point of divergence between the two tropes. While CM does not allow for a single entry encompassing more than three characters lest their heinousness for crimes becomes too watered down, with MB as long as they are treated as one "unit" it is acceptable to lump all characters provided they share acts of charm and intelligence.
- Can I propose my own work's character as a Magnificent Bastard?: No, this is a YMMV subject and the creator of a content is way too biased to be able to evaluate the criteria we're looking for without a second opinion taking over. That being said, you are more than welcome to encourage someone to consume your creation and if they feel a character counts, are more than welcome to suggest them.
- My example/edit has been approved, but the example subpage is locked! How do I get it added?: The moderators do not add examples to locked example subpages in the MagnificentBastard/ namespace directly. Rather, you need to do the edit to a sandbox page that follows the format Sandbox.MagnificentBastard<Name of the example subpage> (e.g for MagnificentBastard.Fullmetal Alchemist it's Sandbox.Magnificent Bastard Fullmetal Alchemist) and on a Friday, ask in the locked pages edit requests thread for the content to be swapped in.
Thread rules
When voting a troper must specify the effort post they're voting on and cannot merely vote on "Everything I missed" as in the past it has indicated the poster didn't read the effort post and is guessing instead of analyzing.
Resolved items
In general, a character listed on this trope is considered "settled". This means they should not be challenged unless information used to list them was incorrect or information was missed in the initial discussion.
However, when re-litigating a candidate, the same rules apply for when they were originally proposed. If they do not have five or more upvotes than downvotes for approval upon a re-litigation, including votes from the initial discussion if they do not change, then they are a cut.
This especially applies to the characters listed below, who have been discussed excessively and repeated attempts to get them listed/cut may result in punitive action for bogging down the thread.
Definitely an MB
- Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers: Any sadism Darkrai displays is limited in effect thanks to the game's nature and any cowardice which can be inferred about him is Alternative Character Interpretation about his tactical retreats.
- Avatar: The Last Airbender: Azula's Villainous Breakdown is undone in the sequel comic Smoke & Shadow where she regains her composure and ends up stable and in control enough to count.
Definitely not an MB
- South Park: The show's frequent use of vulgar comedy and mean-spirited humor leaves any potential candidates devoid of the dignity or charm to qualify.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 31st 2023 at 4:15:22 AM
Talking San Andreas? Well, I can see keeping Mike Toreno. He's basically a devious CIA agent who repeatedly uses the protagonist for his own purposes, which includes assassinating government agents from other departments. But he doesn't hurt innocents and in the end, he does have a heart, as indicated when he helps CJ and his brother reunite. James Woods also imbues him with this Crazy Awesome affability that makes him too likeable to hate.
Carl himself, on the other hand, I have to say no to. He's a lot like most other GTA protagonists, where he's frequently a Pinball Protagonist just trying to survive. Sure he comes out on top like they (almost) all do, but a lot of it is thanks to luck.
Edited by Morgenthaler on Aug 24th 2018 at 9:23:52 AM
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Shin Megami Tensei IV
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Oh then it wouldn't be necessary. Cut it ASAP.
I agree with Morgen, btw, and to cutting Seiji
Well if there's a case for Mike I'd love to hear it (and potentially get—I think—our first GTA keeper).
Yeah, at first glance I thought most of his crimes were grand and impersonal but then I caught that in the text and thought I'd post it to save you the EP, bro.
Edited by 43110 on Aug 24th 2018 at 12:34:31 PM
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Still one of my favorite villains.
Watch me destroying my country
I'll EP movie Magneto and Stryker later today.
Shaw, I don't think he'd count because he fails at the good schemer bit - repeatedly his manipulations fail and he resorts to threats and intimidation to coerce them. He's also too much of a Bastard, killing fellow mutants without care, not to mention he worked for the Nazis
Edited by DrakeClawfang on Aug 24th 2018 at 4:15:32 AM
Shaw does not count. Clearly doesn't.
Goku Black
Yeah shaw doesnt count as this like at all. Tough I do admitt that despite his dickery, he is one of the film series' cooler bad guys. Its just Kevin Bacon man
Drake Which version of Magneto are you ep'ing ? I dont think he counts in the new timeline though you can make a case for him in the original one.
Edited by miraculous on Aug 24th 2018 at 1:22:39 AM
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
V
Yeah, that's why I said I could see why people would believe he doesn't count. I myself honestly saw him as more of an Hate Sink than anything and the only cool thing about him was his badass suit and the scene where he wrecks the mutant house down, "adapt to this..."
Also agreed with the Magneto comment.
Edited by MenInGreyToBlak on Aug 24th 2018 at 10:46:59 AM
For Seiji it was actually one of his own men tried to rape a hostage of Seiji's on his own accord. Seiji himself never rapped anyone himself nor ordered anyone to be raped. He also kiddnapped girls for Jiro to use, and while they were all killed they weren't raped themselves.
If you want to EP Seiji Kaz feel free to do so.
Edited by G-Editor on Aug 24th 2018 at 1:26:31 AM
EP for Magneto in the original timeline - agreed on him not counting in the new one due to a, as far as we know, permanent Heel–Face Turn.
What is the work?
The work is the X-Men Film Series.
Who is the character?
The character is Magneto, aka Erik Lehnsherr, a prominent character in the franchise. X-Men: Days of Future Past features a time travel storyline that causes an Alternate Timeline where Magneto is a more heroic figure; this EP will focus on his actions in the unaltered timeline.
What does he do?
Erik Lehnsherr was born to a Jewish family in Germany in the 1930s. In 1944, his parents were taken to a concentration camp, and Erik's powers magnetic powers manifested as he bend the camp gates trying to reach for them. A Nazi doctor, Klaus Schmidt, sees Erik demonstrating his powers and takes an interest in him. He compels Erik to demonstrate his abilities, but when Erik cannot Schmidt shoots his mother. Erik flew into a rage and trashed Schmidt's lab using his powers. Over the next several years Schmidt tortured and experimented on Erik to awaken his powers fully. In 1962, Erik is a young man hunting down Schmidt to kill him for what he did to him. He tracks Schmidt, now operating under the name Sebastian Shaw, in North America and attacks him on his yacht. During the attack Erik meets a young Charles Xavier, a telekinetic mutant operating with the CIA to investigate Shaw. Erik reluctantly joins with Xavier and other mutants to combat Shaw's mutant allies. During this time Erik hones his powers with Xavier' teachings, but believes their views are incompatible; Xavier believes peace between humans and mutants is possible, while Erik believes war is inevitable.
As Shaw causes the Cuban Missile Crisis, the other mutants attack him and Xavier is able to use his telepathic powers to take over Shaw's mind and immobilize him when Erik removes Shaw's telepathy-blocking helmet. Erik takes the helmet for himself and kills Shaw, pushing a Nazi coin he made him move as a child through Shaw's head. As the fight stops Erik presents Shaw's corpse to his followers and tells the groups they must unite against the true enemy, humans. Having seen the powers of the mutants, the assembled Russian and American ships open fire upon them. Erik uses his powers to redirect their armaments back at them, but is distracted by CIA agent Moira McTaggart shooting at him; when Erik uses a magnetic field to repel the bullets, one of them strikes Xavier in the spine, crippling his legs. Though horrified by what he had done, Erik leaves with some of the like-minded mutants assembled, and embraces his mutant codename "Magneto".
Later in the decade, Magneto was arrested on suspicion of trying to kill John F. Kennedy. In the altered timeline where Xavier confronted him with this, Magneto claimed he was trying to save Kennedy, as he was secretly a mutant. Magneto was imprisoned for a time but eventually was released. In the 1970s he went with Xavier to meet a young Jean Grey, an incredibly telepathic mutant. Xavier took Jean as a school in his student for mutants, and psionically sealed an alter-ego personality Jeans had developed that called itself "The Phoenix".
Years later in the approximate 90s, Magneto was now the head of a mutant terrorist organization called the Brotherhood of Mutants. He constructs a machine that generates a powerful magnetic field that induces mutations, and tests it on Senator Robert Kelly, an outspoken anti-mutant activist. Kelly escapes his imprisonment and later dies, his unstable mutation causing him to destabilize and turn into water. Unaware of the fatal effects of his machine, Magneto moves it to inside the Statue of Liberty and prepares to unleash it on a summit of world leaders is being held on Ellis Island. The strain of powering the machine to mutate Kelly severely weakened Magneto, so he captures Rogue, a mutant who can copy the abilities of mutants she touches, and transfers his powers to her and forces her to power the machine at the cost of her life. The X-men foil Magneto's scheme before the magnetic field can reach Ellis Island, and he is captured and imprisoned.
Over the months Magneto is visited by Colonel William Stryker, who secretly seeks the eradication of mutants. Using a mind-controlling serum on Magneto, Stryker interrogates him on Xavier and the X-men, learning of a machine called Cerebro, that Xavier uses enhance his telepathic abilities and track mutants worldwide. When Xavier visits Magneto to ask about another part of Stryker's scheme, Stryker drugs and abducts Xavier. With help from his accomplice, the shapeshifting mutant Mystique, Magneto escapes prison and meets with the X-men. He reveals to them that Stryker's son, Jason, is a powerful mutant who can control minds, and Stryker will use him to force Xavier to use a second Cerebro at Stryker's base to telepathically kill every mutant on the planet.
The mutants attack Stryker's base and Magneto disables Cerebro as Xavier unleashes it on the world's mutants. However, Magneto then has Mystique shapeshift into Stryker and instruct Jason to have Xavier activate Cerebro again, now targeting normal humans. Magneto seals the doors to Cerebro and leaves the base, encountering Stryker in pain as he tries to escape in a helicopter. Magneto chains Stryker to a rock and leaves him to die as the dam the base was built into breaks and floods the area, while Magneto escapes.
Some time later, Worthington Labs synethesizes a "cure" for mutant powers from a mutant named Leech, who is able to supress mutant powers. Magneto considers this a declaration of war against mutants and expands the Brotherhood of Mutants with intent to destroy the cure. While freeing mutant prisoners for his cause, Mystique interceptors a cure injection gun shot at Magneto, causing her to lose her powers. A dismayed Magneto mourns "you're no longer one of us" and abandons Mystique. Magneto is told of an exceptionally powerful mutant and goes to see it, knowing that it is Jean Grey now controlled by The Phoenix. As Magneto and Xavier try to reason with Phoenix, she telekinetically destroys Xavier, and goes with Magneto. Magneto assaults the labs, and during the attack is stabbed with the cure by Beast, losing his powers.
It is eventually known the cure is not permanent, and Magneto regains his powers. In the not-to-distant future, robots called Sentinels hunt down mutants in a dystopian future. To avert this, Kitty Pryde uses her phasing abilities to send the mind of Wolverine back in time. Magneto takes part in the defense of Kitty and Wolverine from the Sentinel armies, and when their defense fails he barricades the entrance as much as he can before he is teleported into the base, but is wounded. Implied to be dying from his injury, Magneto laments to Xavier about the years they wasted fighting each other, when they could have done so much good together.
Is he a bastard?
Magneto believes war between human and mutant is a certainty, it is just a matter of time, so he resolves to be the winner. He champions mutant superiority, seeing them as the future of the species. One of Magneto's major motivations is that he remembers the atrocities committed against the Jewish people during World War II in Nazi-occupied Europe, and believes that mutants will eventually suffer the same fate if they do not strike first.
He is directly responsible for the deaths of many people and has caused many of these deaths multiples at a time, such as holding a large police force hostage with their own guns, or pulling the pins of the grenades on the vests of army soldiers to blow them up. His orders also indirectly causes chaos, death, and destruction over and over. He calls to his followers that they will "destroy the cure and its source" while being aware the source is a child mutant. While he does not hesitate to kill when he must, he takes no pleasure in violence and doesn't harm civilians, so long as they don't get in his way.
Is he magnificent?
Magneto is affable and soft-spoken towards friend and enemy alike. He refers to mutants by their mutant names, regarding them as their "true" identity, but the exception to this is Xavier, who Magneto also refers to on a first-name basis, a treatment Xavier reciprocates. He otherwise refers to humans by their last names with appropriate honorifics, ie "Mr. Stryker", and addressing Senator Kelly by his title of Senator. While he exhibits a full normal range of emotion with indicators of mood in face and voice, he generally remains calm and soft-spoken.
Magneto was once a romantic partner to Mystique and still cared for her in his old age, though he left her behind when she was "cured" of her powers. He truly valued his friendship with Xavier despite their incompatible objectives and views; when Pyro comments after Xavier's death that he would have killed him himself if Magneto ordered it, a Tranquil Fury Magneto replies "Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you'll ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live." He is generally shown to treat his followers well, and while the X-men are his enemy, he is willing to work with them against the common threat when the situation calls for it.
He is extremely charismatic, able to convince mutants to join his cause by talking them into agreeing with his views, and making them promises of freedom and acceptance, that they will not have to hide who they are and will be free in the world he wants to create. He is a skilled planner, anticipating the actions of his enemies and taking pre-emptive countermeasures; he has Mystique sabotage Cerebro to incapacitate Xavier when he tries to use it to find Rogue as Magneto captures her, and he has Multiple Man create illusory copies of himself to mimic a crowd in the dark that distracts militia that would attack Magneto and his followers.
Conclusion
Magneto is a calm, calculating, charismatic schemer who would do anything to see mutantkind safe and superior to humanity.
Also, on a reconsideration, I think Stryker may be too much of a bastard to qualify due to a factor I forgot for a moment - Jason. Stryker labotomized his son to keep him docile and compliant after said son drove his wife insane, uses his son's brain secretions as a mind control serum, and manipulates him into helping him with his plans to exterminate mutants, Jason seemingly lacking the brain capacity to comprehend what he's doing. That's pretty horrific, even Xavier was openly stunned by what Stryker did to his own son.
Edited by DrakeClawfang on Aug 24th 2018 at 10:23:53 AM
Hearty yes to Mags
Easy yea for Mangeto fuck, Magneto and for Stryker... while a strong EP might convince me, the problems you just raised about him have definitely been points of concern on his character for me.
Edited by 43110 on Aug 24th 2018 at 11:55:09 AM
The Unknown Unknown
Agree to Mags.
It's the weekend, so after I wake up, expect a slew of EPs from me, folks.
.... "Mangeto," my dude? What kind of ghetto gelatin is that?
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"Where yo curley mustache at?"
Edited by erazor0707 on Aug 24th 2018 at 8:15:27 AM
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
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Mag-freakin'-neto.
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Edited by DocSharp on Aug 24th 2018 at 8:46:17 AM
Yes to Magneto.
to Magneto.
Yeah I really doubt Stryker will be a MB, aside from what he did to his own son, he's a Dirty Coward who's racist to mutants and lets not forget what he did to Deadpool
Edited by G-Editor on Aug 24th 2018 at 6:39:13 AM
Goku Black
master of magnet
Edited by miraculous on Aug 24th 2018 at 10:39:55 AM
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Frolaytia X Qwenthur of Heavy Object
Mag-Master
Anyway found this on Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando: For someone as buffoonish as him, Captain Qwark's revenge scheme and his execution of it is nothing short of impressive in either scope or execution. After he escapes prison, he successfully scams enough bolts off of unwary customers to fund his scheme, successfully kidnaps and near-flawlessly impersonates a corporate CEO without anyone realizing it, and takes full advantage of it to not only unleash a galaxy wide disaster that only he can stop, but also constantly makes fools of the very duo that defeated him and destroyed his reputation in the original game (along with Angela and the Thugs-4-Less). He played the entire Bogon Galaxy for saps, and came this close to defeating Ratchet, Clank and Angela by framing them for the Protopet fiasco he caused caused while making himself look like the hero. If it weren't for him putting the batteries in backwards in the Helix-O-Morph and thus causing the mutated protopet to eat him, he would have won.
Permission to cut?
IPP Wick Check created.
Mganetto, master of magnet.
My only reservation is that he's an idiot in X Men III.
But everyone's an idiot there and they made an entire film to get rid of it, so I will politely ignore it. I hate that film so much. I was surprised that it ended up pissing me off more than X Men Origins Wolverine.
I gotta disagree, though: I think Sassy Fassy's take on him could count. What he does in DOFP is just glorious and even if he's going to stay a good guy, that hasn't stopped us from adding Maximillian Pegasus and Shadow the Hedgehog EDIT: Or my very own Katrina. A formal EP is required, since there may be stuff I'm forgetting that could DQ him. Or...
perhaps we should wait until Dark Phoenix comes out before we jump the gun?
And cut Qwark. His plan is good, but he's foiled by putting the batteries in the wrong way around. Not to mention he's a dumb, dumb, DUMB man.
Edited by PolarPhantom on Aug 25th 2018 at 9:41:07 AM
Write up time!
I was thinking, for Castlevania, we have it like this:
- Castlevania
- Briefly mention both versions of Drac.
- OG Drac.
- LOS Drac.
- Briefly mention both versions of Drac.
- Death, in the original timeline, is Dracula’s right hand and just as devious as his master. Posing as Walter Bernhard’s servant, Death steals his soul for Matthias Cronqvist. When Dracula was killed by Trevor and friends, Death posed as mild mannered priest Zead, guiding reformed Devil Forgemaster Hector on his quest for revenge, succeeding in reviving Dracula’s castle and almost making Hector the vessel for Dracula’s resurrection. Returning time and again, Death frequently employed trickery and was skilled in playing enemies off each other to revive his master, such as when he had Jonathan Morris and Charlotte Aulin defeat the usurper Brauner so Death could finish him off and revive Dracula. Completely loyal to his master, when Alucard, Dracula’s son, confronted Death, the Reaper tried to convince him to return to his father. As clever and as stylish as Dracula, Death has remained a consistent threat throughout the series and all Hunters of the Night know his reputation.
- Asura’sWrath: Deus was the leader of the Eight Guardian Generals fighting Vlitra and the Gohma, but believed Vlitra would one day be too powerful to stop. Assassinating the Emperor, Deus framed Asura while having his wife murdered and his daughter Mithra – who could channel and amplify Mantra – kidnapped. After killing Asura, Deus renamed the Generals “The Seven Deities” and created a worldwide cult with few dissenters that believed being killed by the Deities would lead their souls to Nirvana. In truth, the souls were gathered to power the Karma Fortress’ Brahmastra to finally kill Vlitra. Trillions of souls were gathered over 12 000 years by the time Asura revived and eventually fought Deus . Only by working with his Brother in Law Yasha were they able to beat him. With absolute conviction in his power and his ideals while hating being emperor and what he had done, Deus was Asura’s smartest enemy and one of his most sympathetic.
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
Yea on Magneto.
"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
Glancing back at G's CM EP, it looks like Seiji orders people raped...