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    Original OP 

I've decided to start a new cleanup thread dealing with trope similarities. This thread is for discussing tropes that appear to be a duplicate of another trope, and if it's agreed upon that the two tropes talked about are similar enough, one should start a thread about it in the Trope Repair Shop.

I'll start with my issue...


Asian Hooker Stereotype and Mighty Whitey and Mellow Yellow are pretty much the same trope—they both involve a white man and an Asian woman.

Edited by Tabs on Nov 1st 2022 at 10:57:37 AM

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#601: Jun 15th 2020 at 10:59:28 PM

Maybe the difference is in the focus? And/or the POV?

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#603: Jun 16th 2020 at 5:48:00 AM

[up] - The thing that must be collected's Plot Coupon-icity.

Meaning some of Gotta Catch Them All's entries are wrong...

...

And Collection Sidequest seems like it needs a reward separate from just collecting everything, usually provided by a quest giver...

Edited by Malady on Jun 16th 2020 at 5:49:22 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#604: Jun 16th 2020 at 7:19:22 AM

[up]Collection Sidequest's description seems to define it as a random set of collectible items that doesn't really benefit the player, but is just there for padding and to make 100% Completion a lot harder than it needs to be. Gotta Catch Them All seems to be at least important to the progression of the plot.

Edited by Adept on Jun 17th 2020 at 10:04:42 PM

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#605: Jun 16th 2020 at 8:18:05 AM

What’s the difference between Unusually Uninteresting Sight and Seen It All? Is the former like “random people don’t take notice of strange stuff” and the latter “characters who see unusual stuff, but are unbothered by it”?

Edited by jandn2014 on Jun 16th 2020 at 11:20:23 AM

back lol
4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#606: Jun 16th 2020 at 8:28:26 AM

[up] perhaps "lacking any reaction" vs "blase reaction"?

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eroock Since: Sep, 2012
RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
#608: Jun 17th 2020 at 6:49:33 AM

What's the difference between Paranormal Romance and Boy Meets Ghoul? The only one I can see is that Boy Meets Ghoul is specifically for cases that involve the undead.

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#609: Jun 17th 2020 at 7:22:19 AM

Then there's Fantastic Romance, which could be a supertrope.

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RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
#610: Jun 17th 2020 at 9:00:49 AM

As I understand it, Fantastic Romance is about a romance that can only happen because of supernatural forces (i.e. Time Travel, immortality).

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#611: Jun 17th 2020 at 3:16:32 PM

[up] Try reading the examples then.

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MisterSnuffy Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#612: Jun 17th 2020 at 5:30:05 PM

Brought this up before but got little response

All There Is To Know About The Crying Game vs It Was His Sled? The former is just an exaggerated version of the latter.

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MisterSnuffy Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#614: Jun 17th 2020 at 8:47:35 PM

[up] Mods told me to bring it here

Also I'd like to get more opinions before officially making a thread

Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#615: Jun 18th 2020 at 2:26:58 AM

What's Monster Sob Story supposed to be? A lot of the stuffs in the description and example write-ups seems to overlap with Freudian Excuse and Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds

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#616: Jun 19th 2020 at 7:01:53 PM

I've been confused about Monster Sob Story for years, TBH.

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#618: Jun 20th 2020 at 4:27:33 AM

[up]Cry for the Devil is apparently an Audience Reaction where audience sympathizes with a villainous character. Sympathy for the Devil is the in-universe trope where heroes feels sympathy for the villain.

Based on the title, I honestly thought Monster Sob Story was for non-sentient antagonists (i.e. Kaijus, monsters, robots, etc.) that are on a dangerous rampage and must be put down, but has sympathetic circumstances (e.g. an abused experiment who had Escaped from the Lab). But the examples are mostly just normal villains who has a Freudian Excuse.

Edited by Adept on Jun 20th 2020 at 7:28:35 PM

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#619: Jun 20th 2020 at 5:58:42 AM

[up] we have Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds too

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Adept (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#620: Jun 20th 2020 at 6:53:38 AM

Should this be put on TRS? Seems like no one really knows what the trope is about.

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#621: Jun 20th 2020 at 8:58:11 AM

What's the difference of Faux Death and Only Mostly Dead?

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PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#622: Jun 20th 2020 at 9:19:20 AM

[up]Looks to me like for Faux Death the character wasn't actually in any danger when they appeared dead, where as in Only Mostly Dead they're "dead" and would normally be irredeemably dead except for advanced Phlebotinum (magical or non-magical) that saves them.

Anyone else agree on that?

Edited by PointMaid on Jun 20th 2020 at 12:25:36 PM

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#623: Jun 20th 2020 at 9:23:06 AM

Judging, as I usually do, by descriptions only:

Only Mostly Dead appears to be referring to the video game status "dead"; that is, you've lost all your HP and can't act, but it's not irreversible because it's not a Plotline Death.

Faux Death is the broader supertrope for when someone appears to be dead, but isn't actually.

A better question might be what the difference is between Only Mostly Dead and Non-Lethal K.O. — the former straight-up says they're nearly identical game-mechanics-wise.

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PointMaid Since: Jun, 2014
#624: Jun 20th 2020 at 9:24:12 AM

Noting: slightly edited my response, sorry for any inconvenience!

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#625: Jun 20th 2020 at 10:39:31 AM

[up][up] How does Only Mostly Dead apply to non VG situations then?

I have a feeling thay its description focuses a bit too much into gameplay mechanics when the trope is not about gameplay.

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