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This thread is a metathread for Trope Repair Shop discussion. Things like TRS policy, what is needed in a TRS opening post, questions about whether a certain topic is TRS-worthy and questions about why a thread wasn't opened go here.

Some guidelines for when/whether to use TRS:

  • If the trope is fine, but has some bad examples, feel free to clean them up or to start a cleanup project at Projects: Short-Term. Trope Repair Shop is for when cleaning isn't sufficient.
  • If you think there's something wrong with the trope that systematically attracts improper examples, start a discussion at Trope Talk. Use a Wick Check to see whether there's an issue present (and if there is, what the issue is), and post the results on TRS Queue and wait your turn if a problem is present. The following methods are two possible ways to do a wick check (though not necessarily the only ways):
    • You can go ahead with the Wick Check without a discussion if you know what you're looking for. While it's not mandatory, feel free to ask someone for help confirming that you got the issue and the numbers correct.
    • Consult the Wick Check Project thread to collect evidence if you need help.
  • If a wick check is too much for you, you can leave the issue at Tropes Needing TRS citing the discussion.
  • Depending on a trope (or non-trope) in question, a wick check may be determined to not be required, such as for tropes that are not thriving (per the standards for trope health listed on the Wick page). However, there is no problem if you want to do one anyway.

For a more detailed introduction to this forum, click here.

For related projects, see Wick Cleaning Projects and the Wick Check Project.

See Tropes Needing TRS for a list of trope candidates for TRS.

A (not mandatory, informal) queue for prospective TRS participants can be found at the TRS Queue.

For a list of wiki pages related to thread outcomes, see the following:

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#2027: Jul 20th 2021 at 3:39:18 AM

[up][up] Thanks. I still don't know if I'll do it because I don't know enough about the trope, but I guess if someone else wants to they can knock themselves out.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#2028: Jul 20th 2021 at 6:09:21 PM

[up][up]Those tropes sound distinct enough from each other, since it looks like Nerf Arm, Joke Item, and Lethal Joke Item parallel Fighting Clown, Joke Character, and Lethal Joke Character in terms of mechanics, just with items instead of characters (the first being silly but still perfectly usable, the second being useless, and the third being a twist on the second).

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 20th 2021 at 8:12:50 AM

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MyFinalEdits Officially intimidated from Parts Unknown (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Officially intimidated
#2029: Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:33:05 PM

I was going to post this on the Bubbly Clouds TRS thread, but I had already double-posted a few times there before and don't feel confident in doing it again now. As of now, there are 17 votes in favor of renaming it to "Sky Stage" and 3 against, leading to a 5,67:1 support ratio. I understand that some tropers (I know about at least three) aren't happy with this option, but the one they would have preferred ("Level In The Clouds") was mentioned too late to be added in the crowner, and a total of 96 hours (actually 120, but the latest Sunday isn't counted for being part of a weekend, per the Three-Day Rule) will have passed as of 9 PM today since the crowner was hooked.

I'd like to request a call for the rename from Bubbly Clouds to Sky Stage to be officially made. If (hopefully when) it is, I'll proceed immediately with doing the wick swap (all 295 of them) after the rename, and also edit the description as it was previously agreed by unanimity that it was too narrow; I had posted the updated description twice in the thread, and both it and nearly all the ZCE entries (now with added context and thus visible) are ready in my sandbox, but I was unable to do the pertinent action even with the wide support due to the issue of the trope's name having been brought up.

Once the pending to-do is done, the thread can be closed and a new slot will be available!

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Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2030: Jul 22nd 2021 at 7:22:17 PM

[up]A mod came and said that new suggestions can be added, but will be at a disadvantage.

I have added in Level in the Clouds to the crowner.

Please keep the crowner open.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Jul 22nd 2021 at 10:22:45 AM

Kirby is awesome.
Midna Basically canon from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Basically canon
#2031: Jul 23rd 2021 at 1:16:32 PM

This is something that's been bugging me for a long time, and I don't know if this is the right place for it, but we've been at the 50-topic limit for a while now and I need to get it off my chest:

I feel like Gorn should be upgraded to a Definition-Only Page. The idea of making it No On-Page Examples was to keep people from gushing about media violence in a way that seemed weird and squicky to people who weren't into it. It didn't work—they're still doing it, just not on the page. We have plenty of tropes about violence that Gorn could work as a supertrope for.

Is this TRS-worthy or should I be taking it somewhere else?

Edited by Midna on Jul 23rd 2021 at 3:17:13 AM

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#2032: Jul 23rd 2021 at 7:38:12 PM

Re: Crowner

Don't worry; we'll leave the crowner open to give the new suggestion a chance. [tup]

Re: Gorn

Probably worth a shot, unless if there are objections.

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Professional Wick Checker
#2033: Jul 23rd 2021 at 11:36:02 PM

I don't object to turning Gorn into a Definition-Only Page. There are other genre tropes that can be used to describe gory works, anyway.

Piterpicher Veteran Editor IV from Poland, for real (Series 2) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Veteran Editor IV
#2034: Jul 24th 2021 at 2:08:00 AM

I don't think I'd object. Make it when you can.

Unless there are any objections, I'll probably cut Sandbox.TRS Slots OP Tracker tommorrow. While I still don't feel like there are that many people who want to start threads here (though there seems to be more than usual), and I'm still not a fan of having self-regulations as I'm really more for hard numbers and efficiency without worrying too much, it's unlikely that tracking things would be particularly good with it, and I haven't really made any threads lately and probably won't for a while, so probably not an issue now.

Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 24th 2021 at 11:13:47 AM

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Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2035: Jul 24th 2021 at 2:31:51 PM

[up][up]I have absolutely no problems with making Gorn definition-only, not only because I personally find it repulsive.

There are many other legit avenues in TV Tropes to gush about gorn.

Kirby is awesome.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#2036: Jul 24th 2021 at 2:48:31 PM

I'm up for Gorn being definition-only. I wonder if there are actually too many potential examples, personally.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Jul 24th 2021 at 5:48:37 AM

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#2037: Jul 25th 2021 at 5:59:37 AM

I agree with making Gorn definition-only.

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
selkies Professional Wick Checker Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
Professional Wick Checker
#2038: Jul 25th 2021 at 11:07:51 AM

6 votes so far for making Gorn a definition-only page.

themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#2039: Jul 25th 2021 at 12:05:03 PM

One more thing related to the Gorn discussion, just wanted to make sure Midna is aware that a wick check is needed for TRS. ~Midna, you are aware of this, I assume?

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Midna Basically canon from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Basically canon
#2040: Jul 25th 2021 at 12:37:27 PM

I know, yeah. I'd be willing to help dewick.

pearlina brainrot affects millions of people worldwide. if you or a loved one are suffering from pearlina brainrot, call 1-800-GAY-NERDS
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#2042: Jul 25th 2021 at 1:23:20 PM

We can get a formal thread going once we have room. Should be an opening soon (or at least later in the week) if all goes right...

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#2043: Jul 25th 2021 at 2:21:32 PM

I'd imagine the Phone Booth thread's slot will open soon since it's only open because of a single TLP draft, since we sent a different idea from that thread to the Salvage Yard after it failed to find a TLP sponsor.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 25th 2021 at 4:22:03 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#2044: Jul 27th 2021 at 11:40:21 AM

Turns out the spot freed up was from the Walking Backwards thread.

So, if anyone wants to claim it, now's the chance.

she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Midna Basically canon from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Basically canon
#2045: Jul 27th 2021 at 2:37:57 PM

Man, somebody opened a thread for Beard Of Directors and I missed my chance.

pearlina brainrot affects millions of people worldwide. if you or a loved one are suffering from pearlina brainrot, call 1-800-GAY-NERDS
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#2046: Jul 27th 2021 at 2:51:57 PM

[up] Sit tight. Phone Booth won't be up for much longer.

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Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
#2047: Jul 27th 2021 at 2:58:01 PM

Beard Of Directors probably won't be open too long, either.

Edited by Walkinshadows on Jul 27th 2021 at 5:58:18 AM

Ordeaux26 Professor Gigachad from Canada Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Professor Gigachad
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#2049: Jul 27th 2021 at 5:04:56 PM

I just finished most of the wick business on Dumb Dodo Bird, but I haven't cutlisted the sandbox or wick check so as not to step on Gaston Rabbit's toes. So that opening may well be available soon.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2050: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:08:34 AM

HMHC also knocked out the last of the 0% Approval Rating wicks, so that's also almost done.

Theme Tune Cameo only has 100ish wicks to clean/move.


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