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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
I know, but is it reasonable to say that it shouldn't be a Main/ with "Disambig" pagetype and propose moving to JustForFun/TropeGrid like similar pages?
Edited by Amonimus on Jan 30th 2023 at 6:54:24 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic CleanupMaking a TRS thread for moving it out of Main/ would be fine. And Disambig is the wrong page type because it's not a disambiguation page, so I changed it to Fun.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.This isn't a pressing issue but I feel like asking. So ~Tropers/costanton11 is queued up for BLAM with the old BLAM wick check. Find. But despite having the "can launch without me" tag, they have no OP written for it.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessIf an entry gives permission to launch without providing an OP, I feel like it's safe to write your own OP based on the wick check's findings if you feel up to it. The thread for Tri-County Area previously gave permission to launch without having a prewritten OP listed, so I improvised and the thread's proposer was fine with it, and provided further input regarding their original idea.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 30th 2023 at 1:21:02 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Plus costanton may be writing one at a later time too. We’ve still got a ways to go after all.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI know it's a ways away though experience tells me that if someone doesn't prepare in advance they don't often go back and finish later. So it's why I decided to ask now, before it potentially becomes a problem.
Also as one of the people who did the wick check and then had no solutions in mind, I feel like I have to ask if they have a plan at all. An OP would explain.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI admit, I haven’t had much experience with creating TRS threads, so I didn’t feel confident writing an OP. However, what was written on the wick check, which is an edited version of what I originally wrote when adding the trope to the “Needs TRS” sandbox sums up the issue I noticed pretty well.
“Big-Lipped Alligator Moment has three rules: it needs to appear unexpectedly with no forewarning, not make sense in context, and have no impact on the story. However, some examples break one or more of these rules, usually the "doesn't make sense in context" one.”
I guess the issue is whether or not the exact definition is common enough to trope.
I was going to suggest a disambig myself, without looking at the trope at least — IIRC the trope was literally created solely because someone wanted to tropeify the NC joke.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI mean, since the solution isn't really clear, we might want to discuss ideas at Trope Talk first. Then we can help you think of ideas to mention in your post.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI haven't looked into Big-Lipped Alligator Moment enough to see if it was created solely to make a page based on a Nostalgia Critic joke, but that's exactly why Frying The Coke was made and later cut. Unless you meant that BLAM is more clearly defined than Frying The Coke was and is just Too Rare to Trope.
Edit: For the record, these posts are just comments. I'm not making any statements either way until the thread is made.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 30th 2023 at 2:05:14 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.I created a Trope Talk thread here.
Will a wick check be needed for Stupid Statement Dance Mix? It's a variant of Memetic Mutation that is somehow not YMMV.
If not, I'll queue it up.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportIt's supposedly a subtrope of Instant Humiliation: Just Add YouTube!, which is not YMMV; so I'll say a wick check might be needed to show if it's used as in-universe only, or as an audience reaction.
Edited by FernandoLemon on Jan 30th 2023 at 8:12:43 AM
I'd like to apologize for all this.Okay. Might as well play it safe.
Edit: Sandbox to be made here.
Edited by Berrenta on Jan 30th 2023 at 6:58:21 AM
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportFewest wicks remaining: We All Live in America (461), Dan Browned (233), Rich Idiot With No Day Job (198), One Hundred Percent Adoration Rating (142), Talking To Herself (79)
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker MailI might work on Dan Browned in the near future, but I might take a break from TRS work (or at least slow it down) because I'm sick again. (I'm seeing a doctor about it tomorrow.)
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.Mmmm, now that I just finished my Jerk To Nice Wick Check and made an OP in my sandbox, I'm wondering if I want to do a last-minute change on the queue and swap my You Got Spunk! thread (which is basically the top of the queue right now) with my Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot thread. I care about the Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot issue more but that might be because I just came off of the wick check and OP stuff, and not that it's a more pressing issue (even though it might be).
IDK. Thoughts?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI don't have a preference but if you feel more strongly about doing Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot then I'd do that thread.
Macron's notesI lean toward Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot's thread being before You Got Spunk!'s.
Then I'll swap 'em
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI'm a bit late, but I don't see any problem with swapping Queue entries if they're both yours.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 31st 2023 at 4:10:59 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.They are, I just wasn't sure if I wanted to do it or not.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessSide note about Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot: I discovered that the original sponsor, Pistols At Dawn, was a ban evader to begin with.
So basically it's a rogue-launched draft that was originally sponsored by a ban evader.
TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper WallI mean, according to Edit Banned both accounts were in use at the same time and they were actually pretty open about it, lol, but I guess rule wise it doesn't matter.
Either way, this is stuff to address later.
Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 31st 2023 at 5:46:36 AM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
e: And only now checked it's at Tropes Needing TRS. Okay if a Queue it with just "Suggesting moving to JFF/"?
It's already indexed on Just for Fun, Trope Tropes, and those two indexes' Dutch counterparts, if that matters.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 30th 2023 at 9:52:37 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.