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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

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#976: Jul 20th 2021 at 6:16:51 AM

That was added less than a month ago by ~Giovanni A 17.

The description does not appear to suggest that this is part of the trope, so we vote to remove it.

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KingofNightmares Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#977: Jul 20th 2021 at 8:19:38 AM

[up] I got rid of it

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#978: Jul 20th 2021 at 8:24:25 AM

Bonkers:

A Widget Series about an oddball, hyper, toony bobcat who was out-of-work from his former career and now lives in his own slapstick-infested world of helping officers solve crimes in Tinseltown and working at the Toon Division of the Hollywood P.D. that seems to play like a Saturday morning series version of Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

OR

Who Framed Roger Rabbit meets Garbage Pail Kids mixed with themes of Home, Marsupilami, and a slight bit of Sonic Underground and Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#979: Jul 20th 2021 at 8:28:03 AM

The first one isn't laconic enough and the second is "X Meets Y" crap.

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#980: Jul 20th 2021 at 1:59:54 PM

Possible suggestion:

A goofy bobcat works with the cops in a rather cartoonish Cop Show.

(Don't) take me home.
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#981: Jul 20th 2021 at 2:00:40 PM

MUUUUUUCH better.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#982: Jul 20th 2021 at 2:02:17 PM

Thanks! I'll likely wait for more consensus before editing it in.

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#983: Jul 20th 2021 at 2:04:05 PM

If it helps, I support the suggestion as well.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
#984: Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:25:15 AM

I'm consing my ensus, too. Add it, I say!

Edited by MichaelKatsuro on Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:25:26 AM

PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#985: Jul 22nd 2021 at 5:52:59 AM

Could I change Police Brutality's laconic to "Police officers exerting excessive force on arrestees"? It's a better descriptor than the current one.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#986: Jul 22nd 2021 at 7:12:07 AM

Yes.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#987: Jul 22nd 2021 at 9:52:45 AM

Do note that the laconic was subjected to a problematic issue brought up to Ask The Tropers, namely here). Iffnote  you wish to change it, ask for a couple more secondary opinions here, and don't forget to link to this thread (and preferably this page specifically) should you proceed to the change.

EDIT: Ahh, I didn't notice you already posted in that query. Well, if it helps, you have my support for your proposed change. I hope everybody else agrees as well.

Edited by MyFinalEdits on Jul 22nd 2021 at 12:54:57 PM

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#989: Jul 22nd 2021 at 10:58:25 PM

Per this ATT, I changed "arrestees" to "civilians" since the violence is often targeted at people they aren't arresting. I'm tempted to make a Half-Life 2 joke by changing the last part to "Pick up that unabridged version.", but I'm not sure everyone would get that.

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#990: Jul 23rd 2021 at 5:22:29 AM

Laconic.Cinderella: "The original Rags to Riches story." That could mean literally anything, as most Rags to Riches plots aren't close to Cinderella's, maybe perhaps add the actual summary?

"A fairy takes pity of a girl abused by her foster family and temporarily gives her a dress and a dance with the prince, who falls in love with her. She runs away before her transformation is undone, but the prince identifies her by a shoe she lost behind."

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#991: Jul 23rd 2021 at 5:27:20 AM

Better, but way too long. Remember, less is more.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#992: Jul 23rd 2021 at 7:43:16 AM

I want to change Amazing Technicolor Wildlife from this:

"Purple alligators, orange koalas...since when are animals this brightly colored?"

to:

"Animals with unusual colours for their species, usually bright ones."

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
#993: Jul 24th 2021 at 11:56:10 AM

The laconic for Class Representative reads:

A class representative.

This is pretty bear bones and doesn't explain what the trope is about.

Edited by RustBeard on Jul 24th 2021 at 11:56:33 AM

Eiryu Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#994: Jul 24th 2021 at 12:32:08 PM

[up] Might I suggest "A student who represents their class and functions as a peer authority figure."

RustBeard Since: Sep, 2016
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#996: Jul 24th 2021 at 11:24:59 PM

Can I use my suggestion?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#997: Jul 25th 2021 at 6:19:03 PM

Laconic.Changing Of The Guard:

Currently:

The old protagonist is replaced with a new character, who does mostly the same things.

Suggestion:

The protagonist has changed between installments.

With some overlap with Promoted to Playable when the new protagonist has been seen before. Otherwise just this, maybe.

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#998: Jul 25th 2021 at 6:54:26 PM

I've seen many laconics which are

[Accurate summary]

Or: [reference bonanza]

Is that kosher?

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#999: Jul 25th 2021 at 11:47:53 PM

I have swapped the Amazing Technicolor Wildlife one.

Edited by Delibirda on Jul 26th 2021 at 9:32:29 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#1000: Jul 26th 2021 at 12:27:18 AM

It is not. Laconics are laconic.

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