To-do list:
- Examples require the Ship Sinking scene to be, in some way, specifically about the characters it's sinking and require the work contain some in-universe acknowledgement about the possibility of the two being a couple. Remove any examples that don't fit. Progress is being tracked using the Ship Sinking Wick Cleaning sandbox.
Original post
Spun off from This Thread
in Trope Talk
That thread was trying to figure out what Ship Sinking actually means. There were a few attempts to come up with a clear definition-
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16343113800A23179400&page=2#comment-38
"a scene blatantly set-up to demonstrate that a ship is ridiculous" (Adept)
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16343113800A23179400&page=2#comment-44
"a moment which specifically exists to make it clear that two particular characters are not, or will not become, a couple."
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16343113800A23179400&page=3#comment-51
WICK CHECK
I also did a wick check to figure out how Ship Sinking is being used currently- I found that, off-page, it was actually mostly used as a pothole, like "Alice and Bob are flirty until Bob's death in s3 sinks the ship". So I also took 40 random examples from the subpages, since those are easier to identify how theyre being used
I also found this was often being used as sort of, the opposite of Ship Tease. Like, if ship tease is "The work hints that Bob and Alice might get together", then Ship Sinking is being used as "The work hints that Bob and Alice will not get together"
one character rejects the other's advances (9)
- Code Prime - R1: Rebellion, 33 "Setting the Stage": Shirley finally confesses her feelings to Lelouch, only for the revolutionary to gently turn her down (due to not having feelings for her), but still considering her as a close friend.
- Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia S 01 E 04 Charlie Has Cancer Ship Tease: A flashback shows a Christmas party where Dee approaches Mac with mistletoe...only for Mac to accidentally punch her.
- It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia: Mac Incompatible Orientation: He has a thing for Dennis, who is at least ostensibly straight and outright tells Mac that it's never going to happen.
- Big Finish Doctor Who 064 The Next Life: The Doctor very clearly tells Charley to stop yearning for him. It's fine that they love each other, but on a friendship level only.
- Total Drama: "Up the Creek" Ship Sinking: Cody agrees to leave Gwen alone for the time being as long as Trent makes her happy.
- Girls Next Door Ship Sinking: The Paris arc pretty much takes Erik/Christine off the table, with Christine's official stance being that although she has (very complicated) feelings for Erik, Raoul is the person she can be herself with rather than just The Muse and for that among other reasons she chooses to be with him. Erik, after a lot of angst and being led into temptation by Jareth, eventually comes to terms with this and not long after is seen with his Buildingverse-canon Crossover Ship.
- Tsundere/Webcomics Colette Pickman in Ow, my sanity. Unfortunately, David has too much Genre Savvy and not enough patience for the tsundere approach, leading to a harsh Ship Sinking/"The Reason You Suck" Speech.
- In Kevin & Kell, the Toy Ship of Nigel and Coney was first sunk when he and Catherine Aura went back in time at the end of the Y2K storyline, raised when they returned to deal with Rudy's webcomic, and sunk again when the two of them left for the human world to maintain the balance. While Nigel still harbors feelings for Coney, his mother does not allow him to contact her and hopes he will forget about her.
- In Penny and Aggie, Sara broke up with Daphne for reasons including, though not limited to, wanting to get with Lucy, her Reality Show costar. However, Lucy eventually made it clear she wanted to be Just Friends.
pairing is overtly mentioned in canon but does not happen for whatever reason (8)
- Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito Ship Sinking: Nothing quite kills a ship like giving birth to the person you're in love with. Hazuki giving birth to Eve is what will happen in the show's future.
- Ship Sinking: Not all of Danny's dates are winners, and only a few he has no desire to even be friends with.
- Cree Lincoln seemed nice, but her beating up children caused Danny to reject her immediately.
- Tropes Q to Z Ship Sinking: The author does so in chapter 56 via having Harry act as a Shipping Torpedo to Clark/Lana, without Lana even appearing on-screen. Specifically, Harry points out that Clark's own account, Lana has never demonstrated overt romantic interest in him, has a boyfriend (Whitney) who Clark admits is good to her, which therefore indicates that Clark is Wrong Genre Savvy about their relationship - he sees them as Starcrossed Lovers, when in fact he's more a Dogged Nice Guy who risks breaking Lana's heart by effectively attempting Relationship Sabotage by making her choose between him and Whitney. Seemingly confirming this is the way Clark is rather ashamed when Harry puts it to him like this.
- The Stalking Zuko Series Be Careful What You Wish For: When Katara kisses him, as she does at the end of Book 3, he's disgusted, and realizes that it's not what he wanted, with this being the last straw that ends his crush on her.
- Billy and Karen (though they had a mutual attraction in Season 2) get sunk early in Season 3, as Karen stays loyal to her ineffectual husband Ted while Billy gets possessed by an Eldritch Abomination. It’s also explained Billy’s attraction to Karen stems from his Missing Mom, also he dies.
- In "Graduation, Part 2", Wesley and Cordelia (who have been infatuated with one another since they met) finally kiss. The kiss is awkward enough to wipe out half a season's worth of chemistry, and when the two of them end up on Angel together, they hardly ever so much as flirt again and they end up with a Like Brother and Sister relationship.
- General Protection Fault sunk any chance of Nick/Trudy not only by having Nick get together with Ki, but by having him permanently reject her after learning of her plans in Surreptitious Machinations ("I can't love someone I can't trust.") Todd gets this twice, with a grown-up Sidney in the Bad Future (who stays behind to let him go back in time, getting captured and executed), and an amnesiac Mischief, (who regains her memories while forgetting her feelings for him, much to his dismay).
- Lelouch/Kallen: Sunk late in the second season after many Ship Teases and Moment Killers, when Kallen pours her heart out to Lelouch, and he doesn't respond at all, standing there with a blank look on his face, which leads her to believe that he doesn't care. In Kallen's character poem, which came with the DVD, she states that if he had said he loved her, even if it had been a lie, she "would even follow [him] to hell", and acknowledges that this is probably the reason he didn't answer her. Given that he was about to embark upon the path to world domination, only to have himself assassinated to facilitate world peace, it makes sense he'd want to distance himself from her.
- Rebuild of Evangelion sinks nearly every single ship involving Shinji, after delivering piles of Ship Tease for them. The "first" Rei is considered to be dead, and neither Shinji nor her clone are interested in a relationship; Asuka confesses to Shinji she used to like him, but she moved on because of Bardiel and the Time Skip (however her flustered reaction towards Shinji's later admission indicates that she never moved on from her feelings for him in the first place despite everything and the reason for claiming otherwise in her confession is up to debate), and Shinji later admits he liked her as well back then; and Kaworu gets over his feelings. By the end, Shinji might have possibly hooked up with Mari Makinami of all people, albeit depending on individual interpretation.
- Soul Edge sank the Seong Mi-na/Hwang pairing during her ending for that game, when she runs away from home and leaves a note for her father saying "marrying Hwang wasn't for her." By the following game, Soulcalibur, her father was trying to wed her to another of his students named Kim, which angered Mi-na, causing her to run away from home again. From SCII onward, her father took the hint and let it drop. SCII through SCIV also sink the possibility of rival naval vessel Mi-na/Yun-seong, as Mi-na interacts with him in a sisterly manner and an official relationship chart in the fourth game (and Broken Destiny) strictly defines their relationship as platonic.
- The first half heavily implies at a future romance between Cyanide and Skids. Then the author took a closer look at them, decided that they actually weren't compatible, and hooked Cyanide up with the female Ronnie. To clear away any doubt, Skids says outright that Cyanide isn't his type, is revealed to have a long-time crush on Harley (which is ultimately futile, as Harley is happily with Mikhael), and is paired up with Tybalt at the end. Many fans did not take this well, as lampshaded in this comic.
Opposite of Ship Tease (8)
- Village of Objects ->Coin: "Hey Girls, have you seen OJ anywhere? I know he wasn't eliminated and I can't find him anywhere!" (The first thing he says when out of the "bottomless" pit, completely forgetting about his thing with Conditioner
- Code Geass Ship Sinking: Occasionally. Can't possibly keep up with the Ship Tease. (also lacks context)
- Mythology Gag/Comic Books In #12 of the New 52 Action Comics, Superman is given a vision of a "perfect world", which is basically the pre-Flashpoint universe: his parents are still alive; he started working at the Planet with Jimmy and Lois from his first day in Metropolis; the League headquarters is a moonbase; and he's married to Lois. That last one is when he realises this doesn't make sense.
- Missy: Oh, don't be disgusting. We're Time Lords, not animals! Try, nano-brain, to rise above the reproductive frenzy of your noisy little food chain, and contemplate friendship. A friendship older than your civilization, and infinitely more complex.
- A small version of this may have just occurred on the FX show Justified between Raylan and his ex-wife Winona in "Hatless": Winona's husband gets into trouble with some bad men over land and Raylan comes to her rescue to ensure she won't be hurt. The potential for Big Damn Heroes is completely averted since Winona doesn't want to leave the house, especially since her husband is MIA. Later, she explains why she chose her new husband over Raylan (even though Raylan is tougher, funnier, and better looking) and still goes back to him at the end of the episode despite his bad decisions that endangered her. If there were any Winona/Raylan shippers, they're probably feeling pretty bad right about now. Happily, the ship has been temporarily refloated as of "Father and Sons", but the two still have loads and loads of problems to deal with in the meantime.
- Some Warcraft fans interpreted an interlude in Arthas: Rise of the Lich King as sinking the Thrall/Jaina ship.
- The Total Drama Action special might have done this for Trent/Gwen shippers. Not only do the two have no one-to-one interaction at all in the special (significant enough in itself) but Gwen admitted she finds Duncan attractive while Trent has already begun dating different girls.
- Three seasons were spent alternately teasing and sinking Finn/Bubblegum, with Finn sporting an enormous Precocious Crush on her but Bubblegum not showing any romantic interest in him, despite them getting progressively closer over the seasons. "Too Young" is the pinnacle, with most of the episode depicting them having adorable bonding moments, only to swerve into a sinking ending
"character do not get together", but unclear how much was in universe(18)
- Far Cry 4 Ship Tease: Has some rather tender moments with Ajay, such as when she was waiting by his bedside. But when she has her Face–Heel Turn, the Ship Sinking instantly takes effect.
- Hunter × Hunter: Other Characters Ship Tease: With Pokkle. And both sides of the ship are murderously torpedoed into the ocean blue in the same arc.
- Series/Victoria Due to its doomed by history nature, the arrival of Prince Albert is the iceberg hitting the Victoria x Lord M "Titanic" and her marriage proposal to Albert and subsequent marriage is the "Vicbourne" ship sinking beneath the waves, never to be rescued.
- Until Dawn The game starts giving her some with Josh. Such a shame her clinging to him when they hear a noise in the basement and how she’s talks about she thought they had a connection. Given how Josh dies or has a Fate Worse than Death their ship has no way of happening.
- Avatar: The Last Airbender "The Fortune Teller" Ship Tease: Katara's prediction does double duty as both this and Ship Sinking. It disqualifies any non-benders (Jet) for her canon ship while promoting the two main ships (Aang/Zuko), although it mostly promotes Kataang. It could also have included Haru, whom the team already met ("Imprisoned") as an impressive self-taught earthbender. (Although I am familiar with this series to know that this one 'is'' in response to in-universe flirting of Katara and Jet)
- Miraculous Ladybug S04E03 "Gang of Secrets" Ship Sinking: Tikki's statement that kwamis don't fall in love confirms that Tikki/Plagg won't be happening, and nor will any other ship involving kwamis.
- Mitama Security Spirit Busters Ship Sinking: Zig-Zagged. Code 34 presented Mitama as a literal Parental Substitute for Rena Haze (competing with her own mother in a "mom-off") which seemingly cleared this ship off the table, at least from Joh's perspective who outright clarified that he wasn't interested in her that way. However, the following chapters send even more mixed messages than ever before, with Rena Haze more and more flustered in presence of Mitama despite openly disliking his quirky antics, and Mitama notably dropping this innocuous line out of nowhere:
Rena Haze: Well, it sounds like you're as attracted to me as the spirits! Ah ha ha!Mitama: Yeah, maybe I am.
- RWBY: Official Manga Anthology This is the case for Weiss and Yang, as Yang confides in Weiss that she sees her as another lively sister. The feeling is also mutual on Weiss's part as in the show, Weiss all but confirms with Yang that she views Team RWBY, as more of a family more than her own brother and father.
- Tropes Q to S Ship Sinking: The final chapter is ambiguous on ships involving Laxus, but it explicitly sinks Laxus/Mirajane, at least if Lucy's narration is any indication.
- Star-Crossed Ship Sinking: Taylor, despite experimenting before, is not attracted to Sophia.
- Sudden Contact Ship Sinking: Sinks her own ship with Raynor by refusing to join in on another rebellion.
- Doctor/Sarah Jane was Ship Teased heavily throughout the Fourth Doctor/Sarah Jane years, but shot through both of its hearts when she gets unceremoniously Put on a Bus. After the departure of Leela, the producer at the time had wanted Sarah Jane to return as companion and to develop the relationship in a more blatantly romantic direction, but Elisabeth Sladen declined to return and so Romana was created as a (very loose) Suspiciously Similar Substitute. It wasn't until Sarah Jane returned in the 2006 episode "School Reunion" that it was finally confirmed on screen that she'd been in love with the Doctor, but the series did not pursue this further.
- The possibility of Suzaku x Euphemia was sunk when Euphemia died after being shot by Lelouch in Episode 23 of Season 1.
- Elfen Lied: Fan favourite couple Lucy/Kouta seemed to have some floating in the anime, but when the manga arrived to the part of having Kouta remember that she killed his family, all hopes came crashing down and he ended up with Team Mom Yuka — and this is after Lucy's death, much to the rage of some fans. In the anime, Lucy herself tells him that her destiny to remake the world for her species means they can't be together, though it ends on an ambiguous note.
- Endgame also proved to be the final, decisive nail in the coffin for Romanogers fans, due to the ending mentioned for Captain America above as well as Black Widow’s unalterable death on Vormir.
- Higher Learning: Whatever relationship that Misato and Kaoru had crashed down when Shinji left NERV temporarily and Misato blamed Kaoru for it. Their relationship died definitely when Kaji reunited with Misato after nearly getting assassinated.
- Schlock Mercenary introduced 19-year-old Lieutenant Ventura at the beginning of the previous arc. She started to get along a bit too well with commander Andreyasn until his girlfriend showed up to sink that ship in a very clear and precise manner. At the end of the arc, she pretty much singlehandedly promoted a Red Shirt to Mauve when he saved her life, and the subsequent affection she showed him because of it. That ship was sunk early next arc when said Mauve Shirt assured his fellow crewmates he doesn't like little girls.
- Princess Tutu: Are you still waiting for Ahiru to end up with the Prince, despite how dark the series has gotten since the end of episode 13? You'll change your tune come episode 24 because he prefers Rue and Ahiru seems to have chosen Fakir. A lot.
definitely not supported in canon, fan shipping only (11)
- Website/Neopets A surprising number of people shipped Tomos and Nabile together, before, all of a sudden, Nabile decided she wanted to marry Jazan.
- Naomi and Cook's bantering developed into an Odd Friendship, but some Nookie shippers (mainly those on the Everyone Is Bi horse) saw plenty of UST there, despite the fact that Naomi's Single-Target Sexuality is firmly pointed in Emily's direction. The book tried to sink it with some very impassioned statements from Naomi; the show finally managed it.
- Fan-Preferred Couple Merlin/Arthur supporters knew it was never going to happen, but even after Arthur falls in love with Gwen, there's still hope for a unspoken unrequited love story from the side of his servant, right? Enter Merlin, Arthur/Gwen Shipper on Deck. He ships it more than the couple does. Whenever a threat to the pairing emerges, he becomes rabid fan-girl in the throes of Die for Our Ship.
- While there are people who think Ragna/Nu is cute, Chronophantasma Extend arcade suggests that losing to Lambda has driven Nu completely off the deep end, changing her goals from "merge with Ragna" to "everybody dies". How this pans out in the next game is yet to be seen.
- Linkara/MarzGurl was sunk for good when Lewis's girlfriend, Iron Liz, became a part of his show. Though most fans seem to like Liz, so this isn't the problem it would be in other fandoms. After Liz left the show, Linkara started dating, and is currently married to, Viga, sinking any chance for a MarzGurl-
- Silver/Blaze was pretty popular around the time Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) was released, until it was revealed that Blaze locked herself away in an Alternate Dimension. This is further emphasized with the revelation that Blaze and Silver don't even live in the same timelinenote , making any interaction limited at best. They are often seen with each other whenever on screen, but this is likely due to audience recognition than any real feelings for each other.shipping resurrection.
- In Yu-Gi-Oh! GX: People started shipping Judai with Asuka or Johan pretty quickly, thanks to all the Ship Tease / Homoerotic Subtext he was getting with them. Not only did he choose his Stalker with a Crush / Forgotten Childhood Friend Yubel instead, he swore to love them and only them forever, leaving the odds of Judai/Asuka or Judai/Johan happening practically nonexistent.
- Not only do Abigail and Morgan interact with each other the least out of all the main characters, but in one of the few times they speak, they learn that Abigail is Morgan's distant ancestor.
- Eerie Cuties sank both fandom ships regarding Layla, whom the readership hoped was in denial about not being a lesbian, or at least bi, because they wanted her to hook up with Tiffany or Brooke.
- Xenoblade Chronicles 2: In the main game, it's unclear what relationship Mythra had with the hero Addam, her previous driver. The prequel DLC immediately makes it clear that there was no romance whatsoever; Addam acts like a put-upon father trying to deal with his bratty teenage daughter. Addam even has a wife, though she never appears on screen.
- Many people were surprised to find out in Guilty Gear 2 Overture that Ky Kiske is unofficially married to a Gear and fathered a son; later on, that Gear is revealed to be Dizzy. Ky/Jam supporters got an ouch there and for some reason, Ky/Dizzy fics started to pop up more often.
- The Big Bang Theory Quite simply, they most likely noticed viewers preferring the possibility of Sheldon and Penny and decided to sink it by removing all the positive aspects between them and keeping only the negative.
characters were together, but this definitively ends the relationship (6)
- South Park S 21 E 10 Splatty Tomato Ship Sinking: Once again, Heidi/Cartman: this time it's truly sunk for good with Heidi's determination to end the relationship and ignoring Cartman's repeated threats of suicide.
- Nick Spencers Spider Man One of the biggest in Spider-Man's recent memory. After one of the most infamous comic book stories ever written and dozens upon dozens of moments of Ship Tease and attempted Ship Sinking, with many attempts at keeping such a thing happening, Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson are officially back together as a couple within the end of the first issue. For bonus points, the dialogue takes extra time to point out why they work so well as a couple, in complete defiance of the past decade of stories.
- Jay and Silent Bob Reboot Did Not Get the Girl/Ship Sinking: While Strike Back ended with Justice headed for prison and Jay promising to wait for her, in this movie Justice is married to another woman and, despite Jay being her daughter's father, considers him to not be dad material. It doesn't help that he never even bothered to catch up with her in over 18 years.
- General Hospital's legendary Super Couple Luke and Laura of all people were subjected to this. Starting in 1995 when the couple first became estranged when she couldn't deal with his involvement with the mob anymore, then kicking into high gear in 1998 when they were forced to deal with the fact that he'd raped her 19 years earlier, the writers threw one problem after another at them until they finally divorced in 2001, a few months before they would have celebrated their 20th anniversary.
- HERZ: Shinji/Kurumi sank long before the story started when Kurumi got Shinji drunk and took advantage of him… and Shinji thought she was Asuka through the whole thing. After that night he started to avoid Kurumi, and she knew she had lost.
- Even canon ships aren't safe. The second season is kicked off with Miss Martian suddenly kissing Lagoon Boy, even though she was dating Superboy at the end of first season. Granted, a lot can change in five years, but the show didn't address their breakup until the next episode. Subverted in that due to later character development, they actually get back together when Miss Martian realizes she was only using Lagoon Boy as a rebound and dumps him for Superboy.
- Hayate Ayasaki x Athena Tennos is torpedoed in chapters 264-265 when Athena recognizes that, although they are both still in love with each other, she isn't the most important person in Hayate's life anymore and persuades him to let them go their separate ways. Chapter 266 made it seem like the ship might get refloated when Athena reveals that she kept the ring Hayate gave her and warns Nagi Sanzen'in that she might not give him back next time, but it gets depth-charged in 552 when Athena tells Ayumu Nishizawa that though she still loves Hayate, she does not see herself reflected in his eyes anymore.
Meta (Word Of God or 4th wall breaks say they wont be a couple) (7)
- Coeur Al Aran He broke this rule for A Beast in Beacon to sink Blake/Adam before the story even started, but that's because he knew that the abusive undertones of that particular relationship would turn people away.
- Western Animation A very meta example: It should be noted that the Dazzlings from Rainbow Rocks are Sirens. When asked about their origins, Word of God mentioned that "[Twilight] does not date them."
- Saint Seiya Gold Saints To Marin, according to Word of God. The fandom had leaned more toward believing him to be her Unlucky Childhood Friend, though. In a Q&A, Kurumada used Shion to answer questions about their relationship, and Shion even "said" Oh? I have never heard of that rumor. It's true that those two get along well, but it is just friendship like male bonding.
- Nerd³ Ship Sinking: From Nerd³ and Emma Blackery do Reddit!:
Reddit Question: Did you find out if you're BFGF?
Dan: If we're....(to Emma) should we tell them?
(Dan turns to camera)
Dan: Internet: We're dating...
(Dan and Emma turn to kiss each other, then stop and turn back)
Both: Other people. Twats.... - The Zeta Project Ship Sinking: The creator has said had the show continued with a third season, they wouldn't become a couple.
- Word of God sunk the popular Lapis Lazuli/Peridot ship (and every other Peridot ship for that matter) when they revealed that Peridot is aro-ace (i.e., has no interest in personal romantic or sexual relationships).
- Discussed in the Winx Loops when Bloom and Diaspro say that they are not going to get together.
- In Sting 26.3 Clockblocker rants about "some dingbats online" shipping him with Weaver.
zce and/or potholed without any context (13)
- Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Tainted by the Preview: The film was released on October 18, 2019, but the film's novelization, based on an earlier draft of the script, was released ten days prior. A scene in the book implied that fan-favorite Diaval would be romantically linked to Arabella, Queen Ingrith's pet cat, rather than Maleficent, causing some to avoid watching the film out of outrage at the idea of their ship sinking. The controversial scene does not appear in the finished film.
- Chrono Trigger Lucca as the unlucky childhood friend of Crono's who was just unable to admit her feelings and then stood aside for Marle is such a common fan assumption that it's actually rarer to find portrayals of her that take her at her word that they're Like Brother and Sister. Granted, the Canon itself doesn't totally rule out the possibility.
- Ship Tease/Naruto way too long to copy- linked after a looong summary of basically every interaction these charaters have ever had, followed by "their ship is sunk in the epilogue". No idea how much is canon
- What If? There was a one-shot focusing on the once-budding relationship of Cornelia and Caleb, though some think it was a Take That! to the fans who were displeased with them Ship Sinking Cornelia/Caleb:
- Heartwarming/Naruto Sakura's smack on the head-turned-embrace ("You're always so reckless...") for Naruto (although that moment is lessened because Naruto did not hug her back, which, in retrospect, foreshadowed what was to come in the following arc).
- YMMV/Scrubs Believe it or not, J.D./Elliot fell under this for a time. Bill Lawrence has stated that the end of the third season was supposed to definitively shut down that relationship.
- Stargate Atlantis S05 E11 "The Lost Tribe" Ship Sinking: Keller sinks her ship with Ronan.
- Hikari Sentai Maskman Ship Sinking: (literally zero context— -its just the word "spoiler")
- SpyBoy Ship Sinking: Bombshell and Alex after the Time Skip.
- Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince The book that ignited the greatest quantity of flame wars on forums. Especially over the Ship Sinking of Harry and Hermione (a ship which had never been alluded to in the books). The film reignited the debate, especially given Steve Kloves' preference towards Harry/Hermione over Official Couple Ron/Hermione.
- The Will of the Empress spent so much effort on sinking ships between Briar and any of the girls, you'd think these ships were out when Tris decided to play with some hurricanes.
- Ow, my sanity is a young webcomic. The David/Collette ship was a young ship. It died young.
other (4)
- Star Wars The Old Republic Fallen Empire Specific Characters used as "video game character will reject the Player Character if you flirt with her
- Steven Universe S2E4 "Say Uncle" Sadie and Lars being on a sinking ship as Lars cries out "Our Ship!" is a fun little meta joke initially. visual pun
- E Semicolon R Visual Pun: Him "celebrating" Korrasami being considered valid by Turf Wars is represented by footage of the Titanic. in universe reaction to another story having its ship sunk
- In The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Word of God confirming the split timeline sinks every single Link pairing. At the end of Ocarina of Time Zelda sends Link back in time to when he was a child. This creates two timelines, the "Adult Timeline" where Link defeats Ganon and where most of the game took place, and the "Child Timeline", the timeline only briefly seen during the ending where Link is a child again thats just "Link dies therefore does not get together with anyone"
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 7th 2022 at 10:04:47 AM
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#52: Jan 9th 2022 at 6:27:16 PM
What if it was because the show wanted to make a point that they were unhealthy for each other but they still got back together a couple of seasons later.
Edited by Bullman on Jan 9th 2022 at 8:27:40 AM
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread
WarJay77
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
(Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#53: Jan 9th 2022 at 6:29:29 PM
Reminds me of the Warrior Cats issue I brought up before. Ships get sunk in one book, only to be resurrected an arc or two later. That said, the newer stricter definition might nullify a decent amount of these "examples", as a pairing breaking up isn't necessarily a ship sink.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
#54: Jan 9th 2022 at 7:35:00 PM
I guess that's what Subverted Trope and Zigzagged Trope are for. A show might shoot down a popular fan shipping by having the pair in question dismiss the idea when it's brought up, only for the creator to change their mind later on and have the couple hook up after all.
Tremmor19
reconsidering
from bunker in the everglades
Since: Dec, 2018
Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
reconsidering
#55: Jan 9th 2022 at 11:50:59 PM
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/Tremmor19
I wrote out a first draft for a new description, pretty similar to the old one, with the voted definition at the top and some word cruft cut out.
#56: Jan 10th 2022 at 1:35:24 AM
![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
x8 and x4 wouldn't that just be Anchored Ship? I think Ship Sinking is meant to be permanent.
Tremmor19
reconsidering
from bunker in the everglades
Since: Dec, 2018
Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
reconsidering
#57: Jan 10th 2022 at 1:45:53 AM
^ That's a good point, I will add the difference between Anchored Ship and Ship Sinking to the definition
Also in the meanwhile I will start going through the subpages first, and removing examples which dont fit the updated defintion. If it's clearly an Audience Reaction i'll remove it, but At the moment, a lot of examples don't explain one way or the other if this was a canon pairing or pure fan conjecture, since that wasn't previously a requirement. If the context is unclear, I'll leave it commented out, so people who are familiar with the series can add in sufficient context. Thank you
Wyldchyld
(Old as dirt)
#58: Jan 13th 2022 at 6:36:35 PM
In the sandbox, I'm not sure if the "ludicrous" in "with the help of ludicrous amounts of Shipping Goggles" is a bit too loaded. Perhaps just leave it as "with the help of Shipping Goggles"?
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
GastonRabbit
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
from Robinson, Illinois, USA
(General of TV Troops)
Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#59: Jan 13th 2022 at 8:30:10 PM
Trimming it to what you suggested sounds good.
TheMountainKing
Since: Jul, 2016
#60: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:44:37 PM
So, are we ready to call the crowner?
(she/her)
#61: Jan 24th 2022 at 3:49:57 PM
The crowner was called on the 4th.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 24th 2022 at 6:50:16 AM
Macron's notes
TheMountainKing
Since: Jul, 2016
#62: Jan 24th 2022 at 4:21:09 PM
My bad, haven't been on in a while and for some reason I thought it was still open. Anyway, where are we on implementing the crowner then?
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#63: Jan 24th 2022 at 5:07:18 PM
Tremmor 19 made a sandbox for the new description here.
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GastonRabbit
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Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#64: Jan 24th 2022 at 5:23:46 PM
Does the crowner icon appear next to threads with closed crowners for non-mods as well? I only recall seeing that happen after becoming a mod, since it previously went away after a crowner was closed, but maybe it's a coincidence and it's related to the update to the crowner system instead.
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
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#65: Jan 24th 2022 at 5:26:06 PM
I checked and they do, so I think it was just an oversight.
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TheMountainKing
Since: Jul, 2016
#66: Feb 6th 2022 at 11:20:09 AM
I think the new description looks good. Should we start cleaning the on-page examples?
#67: Feb 6th 2022 at 12:43:15 PM
it still needs a note about the difference between it and Anchored Ship, as it doesn't appear to have been added, but otherwise I think it's good.
I can start cleaning examples after work tonight if we've got a green light.
Edited by Hello83433 on Feb 6th 2022 at 12:43:53 PM
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#68: Feb 7th 2022 at 11:25:42 AM
After someone adds the note, I think we are good to start cleaning example.
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#69: Feb 7th 2022 at 11:31:16 AM
I just recycled the Anchored Ship bit from the current description and put it into the sandbox. Is that good enough.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 7th 2022 at 2:32:11 PM
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#70: Feb 7th 2022 at 11:33:33 AM
Yeah, that looks good. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
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#71: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:17:54 PM
I went ahead and swapped in the sandbox since no one objected and all we had to do was mention Anchored Ship in the description.
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#72: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:29:13 PM
I'll start working on on-page and subpage examples later but in the meantime, what should be done about all the YMMV wicks? Remove them for not being YMMV per new definition and requirement?
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#73: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:32:20 PM
Yeah,they should be removed. If there is a wick that fits the new definition, the example can be moved to the main work page.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 8th 2022 at 9:26:18 AM
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JohnRore
Since: Apr, 2021
#74: Feb 8th 2022 at 5:31:43 PM
For what it's worth, I thought this was already a YMMV trope.
For the sake of information, I came upon this discussion through This Is Us S 6 E 05 Heart And Soul
#75: Feb 8th 2022 at 6:19:38 PM
YMMV tropes have a banner at the top of the page indicating they are YMMV. for example, Accidental Innuendo.
Ship Sinking may have been YMMV at one point, although I don't think so and that it was just commonly misused as a fan reaction when that would be Abandon Shipping. Regardless, Ship Sinking is what happens when something in a show actively shuts down any possibility of the ship existing. Because it is something that happens in-universe, it cannot be YMMV. It either happens or it doesn't.
Some fans may still ship despite a sinking, but that itself isn't the trope.
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Trope Repair Shop:
Ship Sinking
1st Jan '22 2:51:04 AM
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What should be done with Ship Sinking?
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So if a couple breaks up because one of them is Mistaken for Cheating or one of them is involved in a dangerous conflict and wants to keep their partner away with the It's Not You, It's My Enemies excuse, they'd almost certainly get back together after the misunderstanding is cleared or the conflict is over.
It's different from, say, a pair of friends trying to date, find No Sparks and decide they won't work as a couple at all.
Edited by Adept on Jan 9th 2022 at 10:32:44 PM