This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)I think the title should be changed to "Not-Forgotten Birthday".
The title sounds okay to me, though it would be a little ambiguous on who's forgetting the birthday. Though if this trope were to be renamed, I would choose Forgotten Birthday Suspicion. The title suggested by the OP sounds like it could be ambiguous on who didn't forget the birthday.
This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)Or that.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōI do not know why we would want to rename a trope with 243 inbounds.
Gentleman Troper!I have a different suggestion. According to the header, this trope is "people pretend to forget a birthday to secretly plan a surprise party". However, many of the examples simply are "somebody's birthday is forgotten". That's clearly two different tropes. So I suggest that we restrict this trope to "a birthday is really forgotten" (which many examples already match) and YKTTW a new trope for "not really forgotten, here's the surprise party".
Special trousers. Very heroic.
The imaginative Christian AspergerIf I remember correctly, you must prove that the name's causing trouble by listing the examples that either does the correct meaning or gets something else because they thought the trope meant something different due to the ambiguous name. I doubt you can just suggest a name change like what you did. For example, Springtime for Hitler ALSO has an ambiguous name, but the times it had been on the Trope Repair shop, the others consider it to NOT have misuse beyond what the trope meant, so the name stayed (and if I remember correctly, this is one of the oldest tropes listed on this site) And I was ninja'd by two people. Make that three in total.
edited 12th Jul '13 12:12:55 PM by KarjamP
Puʻu ʻŌʻōI guess you can guess what my stance on a split is.
Just to mention that the "really forgotten" Trope is referenced in the last line of the description:
If the birthday is truly forgotten, or if nobody cares about it, it may lead to One-Person Birthday Party.So we already have the destination Trope for the split; I'd say let's move the "really forgotten" examples there and rename both Tropes.
edited 22nd Jun '13 8:22:01 AM by DonaldthePotholer
The other name is okay with me. I don't think it needs a rename.
Gentleman Troper!Ah, unsurprisingly we already have that one. It strikes me from the examples on this page that it is often misused for One-Person Birthday Party. That's not good.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōExample move is good. No rename, though.
This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)I approve of the example move, but I'm probably alone in that I still want the rename.
Running a Wick check now (with only 105 pages, 20 should be good). And, in case you didn't notice, I don't think that there is significant distinction between a Birthday and an Anniversary for the above Tropes. (EDIT: The "Surprise Anniversay Party" scenario is listed as one of five scenarios on that page. So merge One-Person Birthday Party into Forgotten Anniversary and then rename?)
edited 22nd Jun '13 8:23:53 AM by DonaldthePotholer
The last sentence on the description for Forgotten Anniversary references Forgotten Birthday as the birthday equivalent of the trope, which it isn't.
Random Wick Check Complete. Methodology: A Survey of 20 Wicks by taking every fourth Work (not including Darth Wiki). Trope pages were not included in this analysis.
edited 22nd Jun '13 10:18:40 AM by DonaldthePotholer
SF-81A Black KnightWow, that's worse misuse than Magic Missile had. Agree with Panctice's proposal to rename to something less ambiguous.
This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)I didn't even realise there was that much misuse.
Puʻu ʻŌʻōI would just move the correct use off somewhere else. Or perhaps move One-Person Birthday Party to Forgotten Birthday and move Forgotten Birthday off somewhere else.
edited 23rd Jun '13 4:33:17 AM by SeptimusHeap
This needs more attention. I would leave OPBP alone and make the page at issue a disambiguation.
the it-thingyWhat are usage stats for One-Person Birthday Party?
the it-thingyThat settles it for me. I agree with Sept's proposal.
The imaginative Christian AspergerMe Too.
Seeing the usage stats for OPBP, I support that proposal.
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