Sliding Scale Of Idealism Versus Cynicism / Western Animation

Manchester Black: You think that's it? It's not over, you poncy twit. If you think I'll just go to jail and rot, you're living in a dream world!
Superman: Good. Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us into something better. And on my soul, I swear that until my dream of a world where dignity, honor and justice are the reality we all share, I'll never stop fighting. Ever.

  • Futurama tends to be down the middle. Several known species of animal are extinct, New York City has been destroyed and rebuilt several times, crack is readily available in vending machines, the universe is threatened on a regular basis, Richard Nixon is president again, the nation’s military is commanded by an incompetent, womanizing Manchild who is more than willing to sacrifice his own men for unnecessary reasons and start a war with a race he hates, hell exists, and is in New Jersey; and the world’s leading manufacturer in robots, starship fuel, and electronics is an evil, abusive, amoral old hag, it is legal to eat human meat, and racism still exists in one form or another. But there are episodes that show that some of the worst offenders (namely Bender) have a human side to them, that no love goes unrequited, that shows humanity can band together and make significant changes (i.e. being able to give mutants, who, for the majority of the series, were treated as vermin, regulated to living in shoddy conditions in the sewers; the freedom to move about the surface and (possibly) equal rights as surface-dwellers, legalize robosexual marriage, and come to a fair and equal consensus on controversial subjects like evolution.
  • Matt Groening's other show The Simpsons is also down the middle. The tone could arguably be more cynical but there are a ton of feel-good and heartfelt moments feel incredibly genuine, sweet, and even relatable.
  • Justice League Unlimited has some fun exploring this during the Cadmus arc - memorably, Superman turns out to be the Unwitting Pawn by taking the "realistic" option, but Batman manages to save everyone's bacon by doing same. In the end Superman refuses to kill a goading Luthor, providing the page quote for Being Good Sucks, showing both a triumph of Idealism and internal fortitude, as he is sorely tempted to avenge The Flash, who turns out to be Not Quite Dead.
  • All of Pixar 's films are incredibly optimistic. They are about real characters dealing with problems anyone can relate too and are full of heart, humor, and emotion.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender flip-flops on the scale madly...the mostly upbeat Season 1 gives way to the Darker and Edgier Season 2, with everything up in the air for the majority of Season 3 and the scale sliding like mad between idealism and cynicism. Finally, though, it lands hard on the Idealistic Side for the Grand Finale.
    • There's a line that parodies this flip-flopping (and the idealistic side) in 'The Phoenix King'.
    Aang: "Do you really think that would work?"
    Zuko: "NO!"
    • In fact, a large aspect of the last four episodes centers around deciding whether to end in an idealistic or cynical way. All of Aang's allies and past lives tell him that he needs to kill Ozai (Cynical Ending), but he's convinced he can find another way to end the war without murder (Idealistic Ending).
    • The Legend of Korra, in contrast, takes all the cynicism that its predecessor left behind and runs with it. The city Aang and Zuko designed as a center of peace and balance? It's as corrupt and crime-ridden as Gotham City. The criminal whose life Aang spared? He abuses his sons so badly in his revenge gambit that they grow into exactly what he wanted in spite of themselves. The sympathetic villainous brothers? They're doomed to hurt everyone in their way, and they die without hope in a murder-suicide when the one with a functioning conscience realizes it. The world-destroying villain? Korra kills him, and his kids don't care. Human nature itself? Violent, xenophobic, and insular note . The nature of the spirits? Essentially the same. Even the romance is designed to show how terrible teenagers are at figuring out relationships. Thankfully, it all works out in an Earn Your Happy Ending by way of putting the tropes back together. Korra can't solve everybody's problems and individuals won't always change for the better, but that doesn't mean the Avatar still can't make a difference. The greater sources of corruption have been reduced to a threat governments can manage, even if they won't go away. And an Avatar's work will never end even after the war's won, destined to struggle every reincarnation for peace. But that's exactly why they'll always return when the world needs them, and that friends and finding love can still provide a fulfilling life. The worldview is still one of the most cynical ever chosen by a serious work of western animation.
  • Invader Zim falls far, far to the cynical side of the scale. Practically every single character, major, minor or otherwise, is a total and absolute moron with the self-preservation skills of a brick. Those that aren't are grossly apathetic and consider the world's troubles to be somebody else's problem. And the slim minority that aren't either? Are generally the universe's Chew Toy. It's a Crapsack World, indeed.
  • Don Bluth films are usually heavily on the optimistic end of the scale even if the characters have through go to hell and back to achieve their happy ending.
  • ReBoot. Bob was always the idealist, strongly against deletion, believing viruses could be turned. Enzo originally idolised him, but after being forced to grow up in the games, he became the cynic of the show. The contrast between them was most noticeable when brain washed guardians were attacking Mainframe. Bob wanted to contain them, Enzo wanted to kill them.
  • Two of Cartoon Network's shows from 2008 to 2010, Chowder and The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack, show an interesting contrast. They both have the same core idea: "Main character is a naive kid who drags the older main characters into situations based off his naïveté/stupidity." The contrast comes from the fact that the two shows are on the opposite sides of the scale.
    • Chowder is an idealistic series. A bright and colorful world where people generally get along happily and the biggest problem is the next food order.
    • Flapjack, on the other hand, is very cynical. It takes place in a Crapsack World where pretty much everyone is bitter, abusive, and ugly, with Nightmare Fuel abound.
  • Interestingly Spongebob Squarepants is a similar concept that slowly drifted from one to the other. The show was originally cheerful and vaguely sentimental with SpongeBob being somewhat relatable and most of his bumbling being treated sympathetically or as Laser-Guided Karma to meaner spirited characters. After the creator Stephen Hillenburg left the series, however, the humor slowly became darker and SpongeBob also became more insane and the consequences of his constant stupidity often shown to be harrowing and life destroying for innocent people. Other characters like Mr Krabs also became far more malicious (and unlike before didn't always fall victim to karma).
    • However, some of the series' old charm is clawing its way back and working its way to the idealistic Movie finale.
  • Daria is very much on the cynical side but shows some optimism. The bulk of the cast are concerned wholly with their appearance and popularity. The Show Within a Show on Daria is called Sick Sad World.
  • Both the 80's DuckTales and its 2017 reboot are heavily on the idealistic end of the scale.
  • Star vs. the Forces of Evil is incredibly idealistic overall.
  • Family Guy is like Seinfeld compared to The Simpsons being Married... with Children. Some of the characters only serve to be chew toys for the others and like Seinfeld, no learning or hugging allowed and there are barely any heartwarming moments, and Peter is outright abusive towards Meg and at times Chris. The Simpsons however is generally more idealistic as far as satire goes since there are some meaningful episodes which shows the bonds of the dysfunctional family and how despite how bad Homer's life is, he will never truly betray Marge and their marriage.
    • To be fair Family Guy's cynical phase is largely a result of Flanderization. Prior to that, despite it's obvious dark shades there was a fair amount of whimsy and innocence with the characters at least having visible lovable and sympathetic aspects. Peter was more a brasher Kindhearted Simpleton who genuinely cared for his family and nearly always felt bad for his actions in the end of each episode. There were also some vaguely realistic spotlighting in the relations of the family eg. Lois confronting Peter about his lack of passion and appreciation, which he merely thought she already knew.
  • Total Drama started out as a fairly idealistic parody of reality shows in its first season, with a few cynical moments and individual Downer Endings. In its second season, though, things took a turn for the cynical end. Tropes like the Satellite Love Interest were Deconstructed, and the cast turned into a pretty good example of Black and Gray Morality. Season 3 can be considered somewhat a Reconstruction, returning to the formula of the first season with some things from the second lurking in, and the series now lies at the center of the scale.
  • My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic is all things considered a very idealistic show. The My Little Pony franchise as a whole is extremely idealistic, so this shouldn't come as a surprise. By comparison, FIM is a little more cynical in relation to earlier incarnations of the franchise.
    • This comes inevitably as the lead characters are portrayed as flawed individuals, each bearing personality quirks that give them obstacles to overcome before they reach an episode's optimistic resolution. Nevertheless, these are mostly present to be overcome with the show's fairly idealistic morals and aesops, Easily Forgiven is the most commonly played card, and values the Power of Friendship über alles. Still, it does occasionally go out of its way to point out that many problems cannot be solved with sunshine and smiles. Some things take hard effort to resolve and might take a long time to fully fix. However, It's still firmly idealistic in the aspect that there is always an optimistic, happy ending, no matter what, and if there is a shot at redemption for someone (including bad guys, even the worst ones), it will always work out for them in the end.
    • It usually falls on the cynical side of the spectrum when it comes to the big bads. Out of the six of these over five seasons, only Nightmare Moon, Discord (via Fluttershy in Season 3), and Starlight Glimmer in Season 5 have proven redeemable by the Power of Friendship. The others have been either destroyed, banished, or escape punishment. Smaller, one-episode bullies usually just take off without learning a lesson, with The Great and Powerful Trixie and Gilda as the only ones to turn up again and undergo some character development thus far.
    • Starlight Glimmer is a unique case, being cynical before circling around and shooting off into the idealistic side. She is the only seasonal villain to escape and return to fight another day, the second go around however, she is truly defeated, but she is not imprisoned or punished, instead, she is befriended by the Mane Six and even becomes one of the group.
  • Phineas and Ferb is possibly the most idealistic cartoon Disney Channel aired. The writers adhere to the rule of "no evil characters", meaning that the show's biggest recurring villain is the resident Butt-Monkey/partial Woobie whose biggest wishes are to rule the tri-state area and be a good father, and the worst one, a Drill Sergeant Nasty who pretty much brainwashed the main characters was just a dream. However, this comes off as clear proof of Idealism is not Bland, because this is where it gets all its charm.
  • By contrast, South Park is quite far down on the cynical side of the scale, taking place in a small town hell where everyone is corrupt or idiotic, horror abounds and has enough squick and offensive humor that no one is innocent or spared.
    • And it gets more cynical once social satire replaces the funny side of everyday life.
    • It's worth noting that while the show is very cynical in general, there are several instances that shed some idealism in the world. The Movie, "Stick of Truth" video game, "You Have 0 Friends", "Crack Baby Athletic Association", and a few other examples all contain a happy ending showing that while the show is raunchy, dark and vulgar there does lie a number of instances that are heartwarming.
  • And perhaps the only show more cynical than South Park is Rick and Morty. Where not only do ALL of the characters act selfish at some point, the amount of times any idealism is shown can be counted on one hand. The biggest "heartwarming" moment of the show? It's about how two broken people are better in a marriage together than in addiction and loneliness apart, and they are still shown to be very unhappy after this episode (even if they do get along once in a while). In fact, a major theme of the show is that the universe is ultimately chaotic and meaningless and that nothing anyone does truly matters since there will always be an alternate version of you that's no different.
  • Even before the massive Cerebus Syndrome, Moral Orel is pretty firmly planted on the cynical side, playing both for laughs and for drama the Stepford Suburbia of Moralton and the dysfunctional and depressing lives of its residents. Despite this, the show keeps a few hope spots most notably in the episodes "Dumb" and "Closeface," as well as the ending.
  • One cannot forget Monkey Dust as far down the cynical side of this scale. At times, takes Black Comedy Up to 11 to the extent that it's barely comedy anymore.
  • The classic Looney Tunes shorts are all over the place. Some cartoons, such as "Feed The Kitty", "Martian Through Georgia" and just about anything with Buddy, are very much on the idealistic side. While others, such as "Fresh Airedale", "Hare Brush" and "The Ducksters", are very far on the cynical side. Some cartoons (such as "What's Opera, Doc?") even zig-zag from one end of the scale to the other.
  • Steven Universe is very much on the idealistic end of the scale, reflecting the protagonist's All-Loving Hero personality. As revelations are made as to where the Gems come from and why they came to Earth come to light, it quickly becomes apparent that the Crystal Gems defected from the Homeworld Gems to protect the planet, and that the Homeworld Gems are intending to return and suck its resources dry. What's more, the caretakers he's always looked up to have very real flaws with psychological hangups they've not gotten over. Despite the narrative's continually darkening plot, the show remains steadfastly idealistic with many lessons the characters learn about trust and enduring relationships together, and even most of the jerks and villains have sympathetic sides to them. In short, despite the innocent surface being revealed as a complex and tragic event, the characters keep their good hearts, with sobering reminders of how cynical the world can be but being a better experience because of it.
  • Bojack Horseman is cynically optimistic. The main character is a drunken, jaded, Jerk Ass former celebrity that obsessively watches the sitcom he starred in, pining for his glory days. Later episodes show those years were far from wonderful, and in fact his whole life is one string of failures after another, brought upon by abusive parents and poor decisions. The rest of the cast usually have a better time of things, but only after gaining thick layers of cynicism and lowering their expectations, steadfastly trying to find some meaning for themselves. Even the most idealistic character, Mr. Peanutbutter is revealed to be an Anti-Nihilist that acts so cheerful because he's all too aware of how little time there is in life. More often than not, Bojack regresses back to his destructive habits to the point where his few friends eventually give up on him. By the end of the season however, he discovers in the midst of a drug-fueled epiphany that he's a good person worthy of redemption, and follows the others' lead in downtrodden expectations with a grain of hope.
  • Gravity Falls is Darker and Edgier than anything else on Disney Channel/Disney XD, but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show borrows from Gothic Horror and is not afraid to shy away from the harshness of reality (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to the show's idealism. Grunkle Stan and Great-Uncle Ford even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the Series Finale.