History SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism / WesternAnimation

29th Aug '16 4:45:08 PM nombretomado
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from the harshness of reality (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to the show's idealism. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Great-Uncle Ford even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel Creator/DisneyChannel / DisneyXD Creator/DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from the harshness of reality (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to the show's idealism. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Great-Uncle Ford even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]
11th Aug '16 9:01:08 PM jedidarrick
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Great-Uncle Ford even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard the harshness of reality can be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be.the show's idealism. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Great-Uncle Ford even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]
30th Jun '16 6:59:23 PM Monolaf317
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheMagicSchoolBus'': Being a kid's EdutainmentShow in which the main teacher takes her students on field trips ForScience despite the possible dangers and the lessons about environmental hazards, it leans heavily on the Idealistic side of the scale.



-->[[{{Deuteragonist}} Zuko]]: [[SarcasmMode "...maybe you could show [Fire Lord Ozai] his baby pictures and all those happy memories will make him good again.]]
-->[[TheHero Aang]]: "Do you really think that would work?"
-->[[{{Deuteragonist}} Zuko]]: "NO!"

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-->[[{{Deuteragonist}} Zuko]]: -->'''[[{{Deuteragonist}} Zuko]]''': [[SarcasmMode "...maybe you could show [Fire Lord Ozai] his baby pictures and all those happy memories will make him good again.]]
-->[[TheHero Aang]]: -->'''[[TheHero Aang]]''': "Do you really think that would work?"
-->[[{{Deuteragonist}} Zuko]]: -->'''[[{{Deuteragonist}} Zuko]]''': "NO!"
27th Apr '16 2:09:15 PM Spanks
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** This comes inevitably as the lead characters are portrayed as flawed individuals, each bearing personality quirks that give them obstacles to overcome before they reach an episode's optimistic resolution. Nevertheless, these are mostly present to be overcome with the show's fairly idealistic morals and aesops, EasilyForgiven is the most commonly played card, and values the PowerOfFriendship über alles. Still, it does occasionally go out of its way to point out that many problems cannot be solved with sunshine and smiles. Some things take hard effort to resolve and might take a long time to fully fix. However, It's still firmly idealistic in the aspect that there is ''always'' an optimistic, happy ending, no matter what, and if there is a shot at redemption for someone (including bad guys), it will ''always'' work out in the end.

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** This comes inevitably as the lead characters are portrayed as flawed individuals, each bearing personality quirks that give them obstacles to overcome before they reach an episode's optimistic resolution. Nevertheless, these are mostly present to be overcome with the show's fairly idealistic morals and aesops, EasilyForgiven is the most commonly played card, and values the PowerOfFriendship über alles. Still, it does occasionally go out of its way to point out that many problems cannot be solved with sunshine and smiles. Some things take hard effort to resolve and might take a long time to fully fix. However, It's still firmly idealistic in the aspect that there is ''always'' an optimistic, happy ending, no matter what, and if there is a shot at redemption for someone (including bad guys), guys, [[VileVillainSaccharineShow even the worst ones]]), it will ''always'' work out for them in the end.
18th Apr '16 11:47:35 PM jedidarrick
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' starts way on the idealistic end, reflecting the protagonist's AllLovingHero personality. As revelations about just where [[HumanOutsideAlienInside the Gems]] come from and [[ScaryDogmaticAliens why they came to Earth]] come to light, it quickly becomes apparent that the Crystal Gems defected from the Homeworld Gems to protect the planet, and [[spoiler:that they're intending to return and suck its resources dry]]. While the scale centers towards the middle, it firmly stays idealistic even as the situation becomes a lot darker than Steven was told. What's more, the caretakers he's always looked up to have very real flaws with psychological hangups they've not gotten over. Despite the narrative's continually darkening plot, the show remains steadfastly idealistic with many lessons the characters learn about trust and enduring relationships together, and even most of the jerks and villains have sympathetic sides to them. In short, despite the innocent surface being revealed as a complex and tragic event, the characters keep their good hearts, with some sobering reminders of how cynical the world can be, but being a better experience because of it.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' starts way on the idealistic end, reflecting the protagonist's AllLovingHero personality. As revelations about just are made as to where [[HumanOutsideAlienInside the Gems]] come from and [[ScaryDogmaticAliens why they came to Earth]] come to light, it quickly becomes apparent that the Crystal Gems defected from the Homeworld Gems to protect the planet, and [[spoiler:that they're the Homeworld Gems are intending to return and suck its resources dry]]. While the scale centers towards the middle, it firmly stays idealistic even as the situation becomes a lot darker than Steven was told.dry]]. What's more, the caretakers he's always looked up to have very real flaws with psychological hangups they've not gotten over. Despite the narrative's continually darkening plot, the show remains steadfastly idealistic with many lessons the characters learn about trust and enduring relationships together, and even most of the jerks and villains have sympathetic sides to them. In short, despite the innocent surface being revealed as a complex and tragic event, the characters keep their good hearts, with some sobering reminders of how cynical the world can be, be but being a better experience because of it.



* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Uncle Ford, the Pine Brothers even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Uncle Ford, the Pine Brothers Great-Uncle Ford even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]
1st Apr '16 5:52:51 AM Spanks
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** This comes inevitably as the lead characters are portrayed as flawed individuals, each bearing personality quirks that give them obstacles to overcome before they reach an episode's optimistic resolution. Nevertheless, these are mostly present to be overcome with the show's fairly idealistic morals and aesops, and values the PowerOfFriendship über alles. Still, it does occasionally go out of its way to point out that many problems cannot be solved with sunshine and smiles. Some things take hard effort to resolve and might take a long time to fully fix. It's still firmly idealistic in the aspect that there is ''always'' an optimistic, happy ending, no matter what, and if there is a shot at redemption for someone (including bad guys), it will ''always'' work out in the end.

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** This comes inevitably as the lead characters are portrayed as flawed individuals, each bearing personality quirks that give them obstacles to overcome before they reach an episode's optimistic resolution. Nevertheless, these are mostly present to be overcome with the show's fairly idealistic morals and aesops, EasilyForgiven is the most commonly played card, and values the PowerOfFriendship über alles. Still, it does occasionally go out of its way to point out that many problems cannot be solved with sunshine and smiles. Some things take hard effort to resolve and might take a long time to fully fix. However, It's still firmly idealistic in the aspect that there is ''always'' an optimistic, happy ending, no matter what, and if there is a shot at redemption for someone (including bad guys), it will ''always'' work out in the end.
19th Feb '16 12:28:32 AM Spanks
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** Starlight Glimmer is a unique case, being cynical before circling around and shooting off into the idealistic side. She is the only seasonal villain to [[VillainExitStageLeft escape]] and return to fight another day, the second go around however, [[spoiler: she is truly defeated, but she is not imprisoned or punished, instead, she is befriended by the Mane Six and even becomes one of the group.]]

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** [[spoiler: Starlight Glimmer Glimmer]] is a unique case, being cynical before circling around and shooting off into the idealistic side. She is the only seasonal villain to [[VillainExitStageLeft escape]] and return to fight another day, the second go around however, [[spoiler: she is truly defeated, but she is not imprisoned or punished, instead, she is befriended by the Mane Six and even becomes one of the group.]]
18th Feb '16 11:31:23 AM Spanks
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be.

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be. [[spoiler: Grunkle Stan and Uncle Ford, the Pine Brothers even manage to patch up their broken relationship in the SeriesFinale.]]
18th Feb '16 11:27:20 AM Spanks
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** It usually falls on the cynical side of the spectrum when it comes to the big bads. Out of the six of these over five seasons, only Nightmare Moon and Discord, via Fluttershy, in Season 3, have proven redeemable by the PowerOfFriendship. The others have been either destroyed, banished, or escape punishment. Smaller, one-episode bullies usually just take off without learning a lesson, with The Great and Powerful Trixie and Gilda as the only ones to turn up again and undergo some character development thus far.

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** It usually falls on the cynical side of the spectrum when it comes to the big bads. Out of the six of these over five seasons, only Nightmare Moon and Moon, Discord, via Fluttershy, Fluttershy in Season 3, and [[spoiler: Starlight Glimmer in Season 5]] have proven redeemable by the PowerOfFriendship. The others have been either destroyed, banished, or escape punishment. Smaller, one-episode bullies usually just take off without learning a lesson, with The Great and Powerful Trixie and Gilda as the only ones to turn up again and undergo some character development thus far.
** Starlight Glimmer is a unique case, being cynical before circling around and shooting off into the idealistic side. She is the only seasonal villain to [[VillainExitStageLeft escape]] and return to fight another day, the second go around however, [[spoiler: she is truly defeated, but she is not imprisoned or punished, instead, she is befriended by the Mane Six and even becomes one of the group.]]
8th Feb '16 9:09:18 PM jedidarrick
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but it leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the villain is an EldritchAbomination, and the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be, but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be.

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' is DarkerAndEdgier than anything else on DisneyChannel / DisneyXD , but it usually leans towards the idealistic side of the scale. Yes, the villain is an EldritchAbomination, and the show is not afraid to shy away from how hard reality can be, be (especially when it comes to growing up), but the show teaches that good things can come out of bad moments. Dipper and Mabel face challenges, but their strong relationship is a testament to how idealistic this show can be.
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