"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."God (or suitable equivalent thereof) works in mysterious ways. How mysterious? Really mysterious. Like, chaos theory mysterious. Who knew that ending a war could be as easy as helping one little old lady cross the street — or letting the Girl of the Week get run over by a truck? In Mysterious Ways is what happens when the divine interacts with the mundane in ways that don't make sense at first appearance. In time, however, the results are palpable. This is usually done to convey a sense of omniscience; after all, if you can see how all events play out, it's more likely you'd go the subtle route than try to rain fire from Heaven every time things don't go your way. Characters who fall under this trope are unlikely to use an Omniscient Morality License; why put the hero through hell when you can save the day by moving a book across the room? If this was the only way for them to grow as a person... Implies For Want of a Nail. Usually overlaps with Gambit Roulette, which is about plans relying on seemingly chance events in general. Compare Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane and Butterfly of Doom. Often used as flimsy justification for Deus ex Machina and A Wizard Did It. Not to be confused with the U2 song "Mysterious Ways".
— God(?), Futurama, "Godfellas"
open/close all folders
Anime and Manga
- Satoshi Kon's Christmastime's Tokyo Godfathers ties the fates of three homeless bums with that of an abandoned baby called Kiyoko. There are Contrived Coincidences to make Charles Dickens fail to suspend his disbelief, multiple girls with the same name, and multiple destinies converging on this one baby! Hilariously, it works. The ending is nothing if not pure Crowning Moment of Heartwarming.
- Kara no Kyoukai reveals that this is how the Nasuverse's Counter Force works. A series of events and choices, each of them meaningless on their own, were "nudges" to get Shiki in just the right place and time to stop Araya from destroying the world. This method can fail if the Counter Force's selected agents don't perform their tasks properly or the threat manages to overcome them. If the situation becomes unrecoverable, Counter Guardians arrive to eliminate the threat and everyone within a few miles or so.
- Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt doesn't show god himself, but looking at the angels he send and their way of living and fighting makes you definitely question him.
- Defied in the Pony POV Series by the Alicorn Elders. Being living embodiments of Wisdom and Empathy, they have no reason not to be straightforward in their rare interactions with mortals, and do not manipulate things in their favor, being strong believers in free will.
- In Alchemical Solutions, Autochthon. Sadly, not always in good ways.
- In The Silmarillion fanfic "Lessons from the Mountain, during his soul's trial, Maedhros asks Manwë -the King of the Valar- why he never granted him a quick death when he begged for it during Morgoth's torture. Manwë replies that he intended to release him from his torment as soon as possible.
Maedhros: I have always wondered... Why you granted his request instantly, Manwë-to-whom-all-birds-are-dear, while you had studiously ignored mine for years.
Manwë: You have just answered your own question. In all those years, you begged only for death. But when the time was right, I sent you freedom. If I seemed to be silent, it was because you insisted on asking for too mean a boon.
Maedhros: You—you did not abandon the Noldor? Not even the sons of Fëanor? I thought your silence was—
Vairë: Little did you know of the Valar when you left Valinor. Seldom have you perceived our actions, and little do you understand our thoughts.
- The Second Try: When Shinji complains that he and Asuka have failed to change the past, Kaworu cites this trope and points out that even the small changes they've made have improved the outcome, resulting in Toji playing a critical role in fighting back the MP-EV As. It also seems likely Kaworu guided Rei and Aki into meeting, which was the catalyst for Rei refusing her role in Third Impact.
- In Constellations Amaterasu convinces Taylor to start working at a rundown shrine, which in turn results in her doing chores for her neighbors for small favors. As a result the local Japanese population is reinvigorated, Oni Lee becomes more human, and Sophia's arrest goes sour, turning Taylor's life around
- The four are baffled by many of the changes made to C'hou in The Keys Stand Alone: The Soft World since they left six years ago. The general explanation is that “the gods changed it,” and they learn directly from the gods themselves that they made the changes to please both the G'heddi'onians and the skahs. This doesn't suffice; very little makes sense to the four, such as the obviously ancient cliff dwelling that seemed to have been created only three or four years ago. Why make it ancient? However, everything makes a lot more sense after they find out they're in a giant telepathic MMORPG, the gods are fake, and the changes were made because of the Rule of Cool.
- The Alternative Character Interpretation version of the events in Dogma is that God purposely let Azrael's goons mug Him just so s/he could resolve the Bartleby/Loki situation and further propagate the line of the last scion.
- Slumdog Millionaire, where justification is given for the main character's crapsack life story, and eventual rise to the richest of the rich, in three words: "It is Written." For every question on Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, except for the last, Jamal knows the answer by virtue of some dramatic or important event in his life, to which we are treated.
- The Adjustment Bureau may or may not work for God, but their main approach is to gently nudge things in the "right" direction in order to follow "the plan".
- Kenneth Miller's book Finding Darwin's God uses this as part of its demonstration that acceptance of evolution does not actually have to have any effect on one's belief in God, as a deity who can create life through manipulation of natural laws would have a greater claim to omniscience than one who could create life from dust. Deals primarily with Christianity and makes excellent points about how a truly omnipotent, omniscient God working in evolution is not only more impressive than the "boom, stuff happened" God, but also completely compatible with Christianity.
- This is usually pulled as the explanation for God in The Dresden Files. This trope is invoked on several occasions, usually by Knights of the Cross. Harry usually does not take this as an acceptable answer.
- Lampshaded in one of the later books, with Harry basically asking someone "They tried the "mysterious ways" line on you too, huh?"
- In the novel Small Favor and the short story "The Warrior", the archangel Uriel deconstructs Harry's criticisms of the "mysterious ways" explanation, illustrating how through apparently random, unconnected events God had used Harry to change many people's lives for the better without him even being aware of it. Uriel further points out that it only seems mysterious to Harry because God is omnipresent and omniscient, operating everywhere, at all times. What seems incomprehensible to a mortal's point of view, rooted in a single space and time, is not nearly so to God.
- Also parodied in one of the books. When Murphy contemplates, how can the garden of the Carpenters be still green so late in the autumn, Harry answers: "Sod works in mysterious ways."
- The Eternals in Isaac Asimov's The End of Eternity work like this; at the very start of the novel, the protagonist changes the course of history by moving one particular item to a different shelf. It turns out they work this out with a particular branch of mathematics.
- In Isaac Asimov's short story "Spell My Name With an S", two angels, on a bet, manage to completely avert nuclear war just by convincing one man to spell his name with an S instead of a Z.
- At the end of Good Omens, Crowley points out to Aziraphael that an omniscient, omnipotent god would never have allowed them to prevent the apocalypse, or for that matter have allowed Lucifer's rebellion unless that was what He wanted all along. He goes on to suggest that the war between Heaven and Hell isn't so much a chess game as an incomprehensibly complex game of solitaire.
- Near the beginning of the book it is said that God does not play dice with the universe, He plays an ineffable game of His own devising which might be described from the vantage of the other players, i.e. everybody, as 'playing a complex and unintuitive version of poker in a pitch black room with blank cards for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules and who smiles all the time ' (paraphrased).
- There was no god involved, but in The Science of Discworld III: Darwin's Watch Hex claims that the voyage of the Beagle was almost as significant an event as Joshua Goddelson leaving his house by the back door in 1734, leading to commercial nuclear fusion being perfected 283 years later.
- Connie Willis:
- In To Say Nothing of the Dog, no divinity is ever mentioned, but this is the way the universe corrects potential errors due to time travel.
- In All Clear, a theory is presented that the universe regarded the Germans winning World War II as such an error, and has since corrected it via time travel through amazingly subtle coincidences without anyone realizing it.
- In Robin Hobb's The Soldier Son trilogy, the Speck magic, as well as Orandula the god of balances manipulate the protagonist through a series of convoluted chains of events, most of them set off by tiny, seemingly insignificant actions, like giving a stone to Caulder Stiet, which leads to the discovery of gold in the plains, which leads to almost all Gernian troops being pulled from the Specks' land, thus protecting the Ancestor Trees from being cut.
- Kurt Vonnegut's novel Cat's Cradle introduces the religion of "Bokononism," wherein all living beings are arranged by God in groups called karass, in order to advance the divine will. The members of a karass may never even know each other, and their work may overlap in bizarre, coincidental ways, but they work together for a single purpose that they'll never know.
- Of course Bokononism admits that it's all bull shit.
- Bridge of Birds manifests this eventually, in a seemingly random, seemingly impossible way.
- It's implied throughout J. R. R. Tolkien's work that Eru (AKA God) has his hand in everything. Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings explicitly states that "Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, and not by its maker."
- It's more complex than that, since one of the Gifts that Eru gave to Men (including hobbits; as opposed to Elves) was true free will in the sense of fighting fate. As is pointed out in Unfinished Tales, Bilbo was meant to find the Ring, and Frodo was meant to bear it, and Gandalf was meant to guide them both. But Bilbo and Frodo could have refused to leave home, and Gandalf wasn't "even allowed to try" to compel them.
- Falling Sideways has a plot consisting more or less entirely of the main character being jerked around, tricked, told lies, arrested, told more, contradictory lies, framed, abducted by aliens, told yet more lies and finally being given most of British Columbia, thanks to the plans of a godlike figure whose real motives are an absolute headache to work out and who seems to suffer from major Complexity Addiction. Discussed around the third or fourth set of elaborate falsehoods, with the protagonist cracking that all of the moving in mysterious ways is clearly God ducking to avoid the things being thrown at Him.
- In Hellspark, Tinling Alfvaen is a "serendipitist", which means she possesses a psychic power that causes things to turn out well when she's involved, sometimes in ways that don't seem so lucky at first. Nobody understands how it works, just that it does. Shortly before the novel starts, she's fired because her employer figures that nobody whose serendipity is working at full strength would catch an incurable disease like she just did; it turns out that she needed to have been fired in order to be in the right place at the right time later on. And before the book's over, the incurable disease has been cured, thanks to a chance meeting with a biochemist who finds her case interesting, on a planet she went to for other reasons without having the slightest idea it had any biochemists of that caliber.
- Mistborn: The Alloy of Law: During the final battle, Wax runs out of weapons and metals, and snarkily prays to his god, Harmony, for help. He is very surprised when Harmony actually answers, explaining that there's not much he can do in situations like this, especially since he wants to preserve free will. Wax asks why he couldn't at least do something, and Harmony says "I have done something. I sent you." Then Wax sees his weapons chest, thought lost much earlier in the story, sitting not ten feet away from him.
Harmony: You're welcome.
- In The Divine Comedy's Heaven, the Eagle of Justice happily explains the inexplicable presence of two pagans in Heaven by revealing that both of the kings came to know Christ and reject paganism by circumstances lost to history. With this in mind, the Eagle praise God's predestination and implores mankind not to act as if they know who and how God will save.
Live Action TV
- God's interactions with Joan on Joan of Arcadia. God will tell Joan to do something, for reasons that aren't immediately apparent, but which makes sense by the end of the episode. For example, in the pilot, God tells Joan to take a job at a bookstore. After coming home from work one night, Joan runs into a man who she thinks is God in another avatar, but who's actually the serial killer her dad's been following. Joan figures this out and escapes from his car, causing him to crash, which causes the police to find him and arrest him. It also motivated Joan's brother to get out of the house and get a job.
God: I work in mysterious ways. So do you.
- Similarly (to the point that FOX tried to kill the series so no one would accuse them of ripping off Joan), the talking toys in Wonderfalls. Each will repeat a short phrase to Jaye, who has to act on what little evidence she has for a generally beneficial result (or else they will harass the shit out of her). One episode has a toy penguin tell Jaye, "Bring him back to her!"; after some desperate flailing, Jaye manages to a) restore a nun's faith in God, and b) reunite a priest with his wife and daughter. In some episodes, Jaye deliberately decides not to follow the advice of the toy animals, which still results in everything working out right.
- Quantum Leap. At one point, Al theorizes that "God, time, fate, whatever" is responsible for Sam's leaps, as something is obviously helping Sam leap into people who need help. In the series finale, Sam meets that "something" in the form of a bartender. The bartender points out that, contrary to what Sam believed, his leaping has had a significant impact on the world. Sam may have only helped one life at a time, but those lives touched others, and those others. The bartender congratulates Sam, telling him that he has done a lot of good. This convinces Sam to continue leaping instead of trying to get back home.
- In Supernatural, where God's presence is zero for the first three seasons. Then in season 4, He sends an angel to revive Dean from Hell and starts being a lot more proactive. When Dean questions Castiel about it, Castiel begins to state this trope, but Dean cuts him off and warns him, "If you say 'In Mysterious Ways,' so help me I will kick your ass." A later episode shows that God's ways are so mysterious, even Castiel doesn't know what's going on.
- The archangels, and Lucifer, all seem very certain their father is real, but that he is either dead or just gone forever. As one might imagine this distresses them. Castiel wants to find him and ask what's up.
- They found out from an angel named Joshua that God is on Earth and aware of Apocalypse, but simply doesn't care. Cue to severe despair for Dean and tremendous lost of faith and start of severe alcoholic problems for Castiel in following episodes.
- Later it is implied that Chuck, the prophet who began writing Dean and Sam's adventures for profit, might have been God the whole time and was slightly guiding them. Of course, considering some hints from Gabriel, Lucifer and others and the way all angels and humans are, it still doesn't excuse him of being one hell of a lousy father, considering Gabriel decided to ditch them and turn into the Trickster, Lucifer... well, you know the rest. In retrospect, this means that when Chuck was apologizing for making them live bad writing, he was apologizing for their entire lives.
- In a later episode (Reading is fundamental) Castiel outright invokes this trope by reacting to Dean's question on what kind of sense some angelic plan makes with "That's god and his shiny red apples."
- In Saving Grace, God's plans for protagonist Grace Hanadarko, the nature of angels or the reasons for giving her a shot at redemption, thus often investigated in many ways, will stay mysterious to her until the very last episode.
- The Prophets from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine speaking in cryptic nonsense, even when it's down right suicidal for them to do so. In this case the trope is justified because they are (benign) Starfish Aliens / Eldritch Abominations who have as much difficulty understanding "linear time" beings as the Federation does them.
- The re-imagined Battlestar Galactica attempted to wrap up its sprawling tangle of unresolved plot threads at one fell swoop by invoking this at the end. The fandom was not amused.
- Leverage: While no proof of a divine plan is given in the aptly named episode "The Miracle Job" a priest named Father Paul is trying hard to save his church from being sold, but the corrupt business man has some thugs go and beat Paul before he can reach the City Council to ask them once again to not go through with the sale. This attack draws the attention of Paul's old friend, and protagonist, Nathan Ford and his band of thieves. After a series of gambits to take down the corrupt business man, including faking a miracle by having a fake statue of St. Nicholas appear to be crying and then undoing the miracle by framing the business man for it as though it were a PR stunt, the church is saved. At the end, Nate and Paul discuss things and Paul is thankful for the miracle. When Nate points out they did fake it, Paul quickly retorts, "Five thieves saved my church" and considers that the miracle. He may not have seen the whole picture in the middle when it looked like he might be defrocked for the fake miracle, but in hindsight Paul believes God was always trying to help him save the church, even if he didn't understand it then and there.
- Despite of the above disclaimer, many interpret the U2 song this way, thanks to the wide range of interpretations of their works.
- Probably the Trope Namer, though a slight case of Beam Me Up, Scotty!, is William Cowper's 1779 hymn: "God moves in a mysterious way / His wonders to perform."
- Daniel Amos touch on this quite a bit. In "On the Line" (from Horrendous Disc) God constantly communicates with the listener, as much through the physical world as through any direct revelation.
- Kids Praise: In some albums, God directly intervenes or speaks to Psalty when Psalty is at a particularly low point, but in the ninth album, God provides a means of replacing the missing album that Risky Rat stole, which only happened because of the ninth album's adventure in the first place!
- The qashmallim of Promethean: The Created, "angels" made of the same Divine Fire that gives Prometheans life, but lack free will. They manifest for only a short while, and have one particular purpose they must complete in that time. This purpose can range from bringing two people together to destroying a city, all in service of "the Principle."
- In a related WoD game, the angels of the God-Machine Chronicles and Demon: The Descent have missions, but they are capable of looking at the larger consequences (in fact, that's often how their descent into demon begins). Word of God casts them as more similar to the Observers on Fringe or the Strangers in Dark City, agents of the great machine who keep the machinery working.
- One demonic faction, the Integrators, believe that even their fall from grace serves a larger purpose to the God-Machine, and that they need to eventually return to the G-M to fix something broken within it. This point of view is tough to sell to other demons.
- The God-Machine will occasionally do things even demons find bizarre, like send two angels to Earth with conflicting purposes (which practically guarantees one or both will fall), or send Exiles, angels who arrive with a nonsensical, unachievable purpose or none whatsoever.
- In Nomine is interesting in this regard: If you roll a 111 or 666 on a 3d6 roll, either God (on a 111) or Satan (on a 666) intervene. What this means depends on which side of the War you're on, but the GM is encouraged to work in this method (for example, a Demon doing something explicitly supernatural, on a 111, will discover a warrior Angel-for reasons of his own- walking around the corner right as the Disturbance is traceable to him).
- Tzeentch, Chaos god of change, Chessmasters, mutation, Chronic Backstabbing Disorder, magic and embodiment of all hope in Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 is very much this (though with considerable competition from Cegorach the Eldar Laughing God, the C'tan Deceiver, and the God-Emperor of Mankind). His entire reason for being is to make stupidly-complex Xanatos Gambits that span millenia, and everything that makes one of those plots fail merely ensures that it causes another to succeed. Which is why the unofficial Catch-Phrase of his Sorcerers is "Just as Planned" in response to anything happening.
- In The Bible: The Complete Word of God (abridged), Solomon is asked to give his wisdom on how God in the New Testament could be so different from that in the Old Testament. His answer, in a word, is Bewitched:
- This is the title of the opening number of the musical The Color Purple, celebrating God's power to bring good out of evil. However, there's powerful potential for Alternate Song Interpretation there - here's this church full of Gossipy Hens speculating on the life inside the home of a man whom they know is abusive, yet they don't lift a finger to remove his two daughters (one of whom is pregnant for the second time, and fourteen) from his house. The ways of the Lord could be a lot less mysterious with some community service and support.
- Parodied in Fable III. After completing one sidequest, the villager you helped exclaims that the gods must have sent you to help him out. He then starts to examine this idea more deeply and reasons that it would be logically inconsistent to credit good things to divine will whilst at the same time writing off the bad as mere misfortune. Hence, not only was you saving him all part of the plan, but so was him getting into trouble in the first place, the stress he went through, and every minor problem he's ever faced. He ends up desparing at a Universe that is at best indifferent to human suffering and at worst actively malicious.
- One of the Strangers in Red Dead Redemption can be found lying in the desert, delirious and sick. The first time you offer to help her, she sends you away saying God will save her. If you come back to give her medical supplies, she decides that obviously she was right, because God sent you to help her. She then stays in the desert, desperate to see God, and presumably dies from delirium and dehydration.
- In Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, it is heavily implied that God abandoned Gabriel Belmont, allowing his fate and not letting him be forgiven for his transgressions. However, He is revealed to have a far greater plan one thousand years later, as Gabriel's fall from grace allowed him to have an agent capable of killing Satan once and for all when he brought about the Apocalypse.
- Since the entire point of The Maker in Dragon Age is "faith", we may never get a straight answer as to whether He truly exists or does anything at all. Nonetheless, whenever Thedas faces a Darkest Hour, unlikely coincidences such as the right people being in the wrong places at the wrong times give the world a fighting chance. This becomes especially important in Dragon Age: Inquisition, which has Faith as its Central Theme. In the wake of the latest disaster, the peoples' faith is tested, and many wonder whether The Maker has abandoned them or if He even existed in the first place. By the end of the game, those questions remain unanswered...after Thedas is saved once again by a string of coincidences. Solas believes that this is how gods should behave, since no true god needs to prove its power to anyone. Solas isn't certain whether The Maker exists, but he approves of the idea of The Maker. By contrast, he believes the Elven Pantheon and the Old Gods of the Imperium existed, but does not acknowledge them as true gods. This takes new meaning after The Stinger reveals that he is a member of the Elven Pantheon, Fen'harel the Dread Wolf.
- The Elder Scrolls
- Anu, the God of Gods Anthropomorphic Personification of the primordial force of stasis/order/light. It is said that his presence is a force "so prevalent as to be not really there at all". It's theorized that this is in part because mortals have a much tougher time envisioning "perfect stasis" than they do "change".
- The Aedra, who formed out of the spilled and intermingled blood of Anu and his "brother" Padomay, sacrificed much of their divine power when they were convinced/tricked into creating Mundus, the mortal plane. As such, they prefer a much lighter touch when influencing mortal affairs, leading to this trope. At most, they'll empower a mortal agent to handle their affairs, such as Akatosh sending the "Last Dragonborn" to oppose Alduin in Skyrim. In the rare event that they do pull a Divine Intervention and directly intervene at full power, it is to prevent the full-blown End Of The World As We Know It, as Akatosh did at the end of Oblivion.
- Fan Theory has it this is the true story regarding the events of Misfile; see the Wild Mass Guessing entry for the comic. Word of God has been strangely silent in regards to Jossing this, only adding further fuel to the flames.
- Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal parodies it here.
God works in mysterious, dickish ways.
- Also used in a comic about theodicy here, with a minor add-on to the phrase.
- In Endstone, Kyri thinks she must have faith because of this. (Albeit "the gods" rather than one.)
- In Sinfest, Slick complains of this and gets a rather direct message.
- Sue Prime the god of all Sues from Ensign Sue Must Die invokes this trope as defense when the characters' begin to question her plan, for being stupid and overly complicated.
- This is the Simurgh's preferred method of effecting the world. She subtly influences people en masse so that days, months, or even years later they will make a decision that furthers her agenda. Quarantines are established to keep her victims from doing so, but even that can work towards her plan.
- Contessa's power allows her to devise a plan that will allow success for any given task by following certain steps, often seemingly unrelated to the task at hand.
- Parodied on American Dad! when Stan meets God after learning his family is about to die.
God: Everything happens for a reason.
Stan: What reason could there be?
God: Stan, I'm gonna level with you. If your family is allowed to live, Stanford's tennis team will go 0-and-8 in conference play.
- God/satellite/satellite which collided with God in Futurama, believes that this is the way God should behave. Unlike many examples, it actually explains why it believes this way: If a deity does too much for its people, they will become dependent on it; if it does too little, then its people will not be able to deal with problems beyond their abilities and will lose hope. By working in mysterious ways the people are motivated to work hard and expand their knowledge, but can still receive help if they need it.
- When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
- It was also a stark contrast to how Bender played God to some tiny sapient beings living on him. By asking them to do him favors, it ultimately introduced crime, while maiming and killing hundreds, if not thousands. By trying to help, he killed scores of them and destroyed many of their crops. By doing nothing, those he hadn't paid attention to felt ignored and eventually waged all out war that resulted in mutually assured destruction, using weapons built from Bender himself. Speaking with the nebula changes Bender, and goes out of his way to rescue trapped monks. It is then revealed that, because this action was done of Bender's own will, but only because of the nebula's influence, the nebula saved the monks, though they will not credit him, thus showing his philosophy in action.
- Judge Frollo makes such a remark in the Disney version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, when mentioning that Quasimodo may end up being useful to him.
- There's arguably also a straight example carried through the film itself; had Frollo drowned Quasimodo as an infant, many future events would not have taken place; Phoebus would not have found the Court of Miracles on his own, for example. Quasimodo's presence, along with that of Esmeralda, is one of the biggest driving factors in Frollo's downfall.
- Spoofed in an episode of Taz-Mania where the Bush Rats start worshiping Taz's little brother's rubber ducky. When it's inevitably reclaimed by its owner, the Chief assures the other Bush Rats "The gods work in strange ways. This is just one of the stranger ones."
- One of the most common interpretations of Princess Celestia from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic; despite doing seemingly very little, she seems to always have things set-up to turn out alright—even if such plans had to be so convoluted and unlikely to barely be noticeable at all. For example, is the only reason she was so calm about Nightmare Moon's return because she's somehow known (or arranged for) all the potential Elements of Harmony to be in Ponyville at the correct time? In "Celestial Advice", this is revealed to indeed be the case.
- Essentially, For Want of a Nail is this. Get stuck in a traffic light? You might get stuck in a traffic jam for hours, arrive very late to work, get fired, be forced to look for another job, find one in another town and move their with your family, leading your children to grow up in said town, and they go to college there, where they'll meet the love of their lives.