Discussion Main / Yandere

Uh, guys. Can I put the Yandere trope in the Villains page, specifically the Y folder? If you can, you could please hand me the one who created the page, so I may ask for him to let me do this.

Why does this trope, which is thousands of years older than anime and is in no way exclusive to Japanese culture, have a cutesy Japanese anime name?

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Merge Yangire and Yandere, started by EnglishIvy on Jul 22nd 2009 at 10:33:37 AM

Can the Yandere be platonic? I'm pretty sure that she has to be in love with him or it doesn't count but there's recently been a platonic example added.

Is there a way to play this trope sympathetically?

Would it be worth noting that how the term yandere is used has begun to shift from "someone who is outwardly sweet towards others but murderously obsessed with their love interest" to "someone who is murderously obsessed with their love interest."

The shifting IRL definition might explain why a lot of the examples here are "misused".

Half the entries aren't even yandere!

While a male yandere is automatically not a "true yandere" I can make exceptions if they actually would follow the yandere type. (Russia is not a yandere holy shit get him OUT YANGIRE IS NOT THE SAME THING)

A Yandere would NOT kill the object of her affection. Ever. There is no what-ifs. They only kill the people around them. Yanderes are always mentally unstable. If they're not unstable and they're just "obsessive" or a stalker, then that's what they are. Yandere literally means "mentally ill love".

Someone mentioned a "self-destructive" flavor. This should replace "possessive" seeing as KILLING YOUR BELOVED MAKES YOU NOT A YANDERE. Besides the fact ALL YANDERE ARE POSSESSIVE.

Thirdly, Yanderes have to BE IN LOVE. If they aren't in love and aren't crazy FOR the person they love, they're not yandere. Crazy BECAUSE of a loved one is NOT YANDERE.

Yanderes never stop loving their beloved. If that happens or they "give up" on them, they aren't yandere. Yandere women will do anything for their loves. Anything. If this is not the case they are not a yandere and they don't belong here.

Finally, if they're just crazy, they're a yangire. If they don't fit in with the yandere subtype, they're yangire. Please don't mix the two up. (Aka, Rena from Higurashi is not a yandere because she is not in love with Keiichi, she is YANGIRE.)

So, anyone remember that guide on how to live with a Yandere? It was on the analysis page, but it now once more is a dead end. If someone (possibly even the creator) could go and replace it, that would be splendid.

Out of all the things a yandere could do, which do you think is worse? Threatening/killing the person's family and loved ones, threatening/hurting/killing that same person, or forcing them to love the yandere (via hypnosis or magical powers)?

How do you pronounce it?

Is this trope comparable to Crazy Jealous Guy?

seems the page has been locked due to people repeatedly putting images on the main page

When does the Yandere main page no longer have a picture?

Should we do a work shop on how to make Yandere better? Or maybe add a page image?

I think we should add Tharja from Fire Emblem Awakening to the Video Game section.

Unless I'm misunderstanding this trope, the examples need some cleaning up. People seem to have ignored the "dere" part and just listed any example of violent, obsessive love.

Well played with the in-character integration of No real Life Examples :D

its come to my attention that something along the lines of

"What's that, sweetie? You don't know what a yandere is? Well, I'll make this page, just for you, then"

has been added and deleted a few times, i am worried this is an edit war and we should make a decision here, instead of adding or removing it ourselves, and then we just leave the line there or leave the page without the line. I would hate for another page to get on the Locked Pages list.

There should be a third flavour of Yandere;

Self-Destructive - This type of Yandere is willing to kill him/herself in order to be closer to her loved one or due to psychological grief at the idea of his/her loved one not being in love with him/her.

OK, who took most of the self-demonstratingness out of this article?

Would Richard Schmidt fall into this category? He intentionally infected his former lover with HIV and Hep C as revenge for her leaving him, but I'm not sure if that'd be psycho love or an abuse trope.

No male Yanderes? What?! Try APH's Russia. Definitely not shota or bishi, and definitely Yandere. KOLKOLKOLKOL

I think this trope should get a name change like The Medea or Obsessively in love with you or hell even Fatal Attraction

Yikes! That's one creepy picture even without the ax. Just her blank look is scary enough!

So, that link to the "Guide on how to win a Yandere and live with her" doesn't seem to be working. The original thread no longer exists, and someone put up a link to a Google cached version of it, but that link doesn't seem to work now, either. I'm afraid I don't know how Google's caches work, so someone with more knowledge than I might want to see if they can dig it up again, if we still want to have a link to that thread.

How are we able to get this into a self-demonstrating example like the sister trope Tsundere?

I am not sure if Medea actually does conform to this trope. Within the context of her society and situation her actions were not all that inexplicable. Additionally, her worst crimes (the murders of her own sons) were committed out of hatred for her husband, rather than love.

How is "Every Breath You Take" Nightmare Fuel? I've heard that song millions of times and find it quite catchy :-|

Has anyone taken a good look into the Yandere Trooper Tales section? Seriously, the number of articles that genuinly deal with Love-Crazy, Love-makes-you-Evil, True-Blue Yanderes, and the number of people that deal that just thinks it's a cute anime term for an Over-Protective Mate are kinda staggering difference wise.

I feel a bit hypocritical for putting an example I know in after I post this.

How come this entry doesn't have a little book icon at the top for Troper Tales even though it has a Troper Tales entry? D:

Ranma One Half Examples/Discussion:

Started by removal of:

"most notably Shampoo — a cute and cheerful girl who adheres to the mantra of "Obstacles are for killing." Fanon also has it that Kasumi is one, thanks to a few extremely rare "blink-and-you'll-miss-it" flashes of anger."

The following discussion resulted:

• Shampoo is not a Yandere- she is openly violent because she's an Amazon- not because of her obsession with Ranma. Kasumi is not a Yandere either, not even in (most) Fanon because she is not romantically involved. When Kasumi is depicted as violent or dangerous it's a case of Beware The Nice One.
• If any of the Ranma crew qualifies for Yandere it would be Ukyou. She tries to be the perfect woman for Ranma, and is quite nice and friendly. However, when we first meet her she has denounced her femininity to hunt Ranma down and kill him for abandoning her after getting engaged. He calls her cute and suddenly she wants to marry him again. When Akane and Ranma are going to get married Ukyou shows up at the wedding throwing exploding foodstuffs. However, (like many Yanderes) Ukyou is a fan favorite (heck, even I like her) and adding her as an example will no doubt start a flame war. This might be a problem with the Yandere trope as real Yanderes are not simply violent, they are violent personalities concealed by a Yamato Nadeshiko or similar surface personality.
  • When Ukyo first shows up, she's partially noticable as NOT being as ridiculously violent as, say, Shampoo. I'm still watching through about the 5th TV season, and the manga's probably different, but my impression is that she's generally helpful towards the Tendou's, even Akane on occasion, and that if she's a Yandere, it's probably just due to flanderization.
    • True. Ukyo doesn't really hide a violent personality behind another one, like Shampoo she's completely upfront about competing for Ranma's affection, it just so happens that the only way to do that (as with everything else in the series), is through martial arts. There are no Yanderes in Ranma really, unless you go into deep tertiary character territory with someone like Gosunkugi.
    • Yanderes are usually nice and avoid physical confrontation until after they decide they are being rejected. Ukyo doesn't show as much Yandere in the anime, since we never get to see her try to seriously injure or kill Akane in order to break up the wedding. However, there is the whole episode with the Secret Sauce where Ukyo decides to give up okonomiyaki to be Ranma's wife. She becomes the ultimate Yamato Nadeshiko, until she starts to crack and begins cooking Ranma in her sleep. Ranma claims to married to Akane and sleeps in her room. Ukyo dismisses it as a fling, and assures him she knows he'll always come back to her. Hints of Yandere behavior there.

    • Lets go through the check marks
      • Ukyo is clearly obsessed with Ranma, check box one. Ukyo has a nice personality and tries to court Ranma by being the nice cute, less violent fiance, check box two. When rejected Ukyo becomes very violent, when we first meet her when she's out to beat the tar out of Ranma (and maybe kill him, that spatula is sharp) for abandoning her and breaking their engagement. She stops only when she thinks he's open to keeping the engagement. When Ranma is getting married she assumes it is against his will and violently attacks the bride- despite the fact that everybody can tell Akane is Ranma's favorite. Check box number three. Now I'll grant that Ukyo is perhaps less crazy violent then some Yanderes (like Kaede for example), but of all the Ranma girls, she has to be the closest. Just read over the description of Yandere point by point and she if Ukyo doesn't have those things, particularly the last line.

Shampoo generally acts upbeat, friendly, and affectionate around Ranma (and most fans somehow also only see as far as her figure), but will repeatedly show her more manipulative side such as in the instant Jusenkyo powder date (has great fun manipulating and messing with Ranma for a supposed cure she knows full well doesn't work), the Taro arc (pretending to be there to help, but really only intending to asssassinate a bound and gagged Akane when nobody is looking), the Pink&Link story (revealed as a consummate bully who has regularly beaten up both the bad and nicer twin since they were small, casually reflects poison gas on her customers, and forces the twins to set up a dangerous pretense rescue mission for Ranma to "romantically save her"), and will gladly try to assassinate any obstacle in her path, including romantic rivals (Akane, Ukyo, Nabiki, Hinako). She's considerably more extreme than Ukyo, who at least never states an intent to kill anybody (but did state that she has no qualms about trying to scare rivals off by attacking them), has shown genuine compassion and generosity towards others, and tends to somewhat favour non-violent plots. Manga Shampoo on the other hand is consistently shown as genuinely evil, and as far as I understand the Yandere definition far more fit for the category than someone like Kuno, who always acts the same way, and never manipulatively.