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I think we can remove a lot of examples from the \"Things that do not qualify as Fandom-Enraging Misconception\" folder. The new trope name makes it clear that it\'s about objective misconceptions, so stuff like \"liking The Scrappy\" does not qualify.
I suggest keeping the following, as they might be confused with objective misconceptions:
I say we can em.
I got rid of the clearly subjective items because we agreed that they should go. However, I\'m reluctant to delete the entire folder, so I rewrote it a bit instead. I\'ll see if other tropers think it\'s worth keeping...
TRS voted to rename the trope to Fandom Enraging Misconception.
Edit: The TRS link isn\'t working properly, so here it is in plain text:
Whoa, "fandom" seems to be a ridiculous thing.
Honestly, we should do a more thorough work since
"Don't say you're a fan of *insert show here* to certain people" is the exact opposite of a fandom and calling Anime and Cartoon fans "fandoms" isn't really a justifiable reason.
So yeah Hatedom Berserk Buttons should not be a thing.
I've been wondering what happened to all the examples in the "In General" folder for Video Games?
Also, what happened to the Spiderman examples listed under Comic Books?
The general sections were removed because Examples Are Not General. All examples may get removed in the future. See the cleanup thread.
Yeah, my bad I was the one that added the one in the Anime section mostly because I thought it might a good idea of fandom berserk buttons against the common people. But I admit I was misguided and did not realize that it would open the floodgates for overly generalized examples
"Saying anything positive about Andrew Lloyd Webber at all is guaranteed to get you flamed to death by someone. Conversely, saying anything negative about Stephen Sondheim will produce the same effect, probably from the exact same people."
Umm what is that supposed to mean, it honestly sounds like the writer's Bias Steamroller to me? It would be simpler to just say that the two have a Fandom Rivalry
I think it might make things easier if the bigger examples have to folder one that focus on the community as a whole (such as All Anime Fans or All Western Animation Fans) and another for specific franchises since it might make for easier organization. Either that or I legitimately have OCD
I've pulled the RWBY entry to here. I'm active on a number of RWBY forums and I've never seen most of these (I think two are valid and a third may be just about valid). Is there any validity to any of this?
At the very best, this would need rewriting anyway.
My suggested rewrite, based off the only things I've ever seen the fandom get upset about. I'm not sure about the dub entry because the irritation didn't really last long before the fandom turned it into a massive joke. It's more a source of mockery than anger.
Dude, I was active on the KYM branch of the FNDM and have seen all these berserk buttons on act upon the FNDM, Hell almost all of them worked, I edited this berserk button out of my own personal experience, You can see many of these in play on KYM's RWBY section just search for any comments Pachirisu made or any Images Faze Nebu, Ernie's quickscoper (Now Malice aurora, Nebu's sanity) uploaded if you want confirmation of said topic, TL;DR Don't fuck with it, I actually have seen this shit, All branches of the FNDM are different and go berserk for different reasons, At least list some as being website/community specific (Hell Pachirisu Over there got banned for this research shit, He sacrificed his account for this, Don't dare lay a finger on it)
I was wondering why there was only one response, and I just noticed that someone added it all back to the page without contributing to the discussion. I've removed it back to here, with a flag in the edit reason to discuss the entries.
Given the way the entries are written, even if people agree all the entries should stay, they'll need a rewrite anyway. I've put a note on the forum page so hopefully, a wide range of experience can respond to this.
I second pulling it here. They're very poorly written and are borderline Flame Bait, and we only have the anecdotal evidence of one person to say that these are actually true.
So far, the forum discussion seems to be suggesting just keeping these two (below). I'm going to wait a few days to see what other responses come in. At the moment, it appears to be retaining these two and getting rid of everything else:
I support those entries as written.
Where would you put a case where fans of something in one medium takes great offense at something from another medium? An example might be, say, fans of a literature series not liking its movie adaptation.
I just pulled this from the page ("Other" folder) as I cannot tell what it's trying to say.. Leaving it here in case anyone else can see its merit:
Am I the only one who thinks this should be a "no examples" page? As it is, it comes off very much as incessant complaining to me.
I find it mildly amusing because of the sheer lack of self-awareness as to how inane they sound, but yes, it does make the wiki look bad. At the very least, there should be a disclaimer against complaining, because right now, the description seems to be encouraging the kind of attitude that would land you on Fandom Wank.
Recently, I removed an example that doesn't seem to fit in with this trope, as it was a square peg, so to speak. I thought it would suit better for the general Berserk Button page as the group is too broad. Unfortunately, it's a Real Life example, which was advised against for that page. So where does it go?
The example in question was public transport.
Keep it off the wiki altogether?
May have to resort to that, yeah.
In the meantime, the page might need to be checked for other examples that misuse this.
A weird day is it when moderator doesn't know what to do with example.
(This is no longer needed since I added the examples here to their respective pages.)
What does the term FAWK mean? I've never seen that term before, and the word is only used under the video game folder.
Can someone who knows clarify this? As written the distinction is a little murky. I assume it's the difference between æ and ɑː (for most Americans, a as in "pass" vs. a as in "father") but as written I can't tell for certain which is meant to be which. There's also no indication of stress, though I suspect it's on the second syllable in both cases.
Did a little research, and you're right, the "a" in the first pronunciation is meant to sound like that in "bad." Ironically, both pronunciations are etymologically wrong, as the state was named after a Spanish word pronounced subtly differently from both, but closer to the latter (quote-unquote "incorrect") pronunciation. Added more clarification to the example.
Is it just me, but has this drifted from "common mistakes that set fans off" to "anything that sets dedicated fans off".
Because the latter seems to be covered by Internet Backdraft while the former needs its own trope.
The difference is pure YMMV. I am not sure if I would even try to differentiate.
I'm on the fence about this, but would calling D&D out as satanic qualify as a Fan Berserk Button? I imagine it would get you kicked out of most gaming establishments.
On a different note, would the whole "sex scene" scandal qualify as a massive example of a Fan Berserk Button being pressed? Just an afterthought.
The moral of this page is, "Fans take the things they like way too seriously."
Also, anyone who thinks punk is centered around the fashion (as the "Fashion" section states) is probably not an actual punk, and is more likely to be into Green Day and blink-182 than Minor Threat and Bad Brains.
Am I the only person who don't get the tattoo part at the end of a Real Life section?
On the subject of the Wii U, would "it's not next-gen" and "it's less powerful than the PS 3 and Xbox 360" count as berserk buttons?
Is the title written as "Fando M" to be self-demonstrating?
Nope. That's just an error in whatever link sent you here — Fandom Berserk Button and Fando M Berserk Button are the same page.
Gannon-Banned and Nerd Rage were merged per TRS.
Could we at least have kept Nerd Rage as a title? I'm really, really starting to hate SPOON.
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