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** ''FandomEnragingMisconception/MyLittlePony''

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* A FanonDiscontinuity, something about the work that is not a misconception but an actual fact. Fandoms are usually embarrased by those ones and try to ignore them, so they get pissed when someone critizises the work because of them.

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* Something that is ultimately just an opinion. "X sucks" or "X is the best" are and will always be just opinions, no matter how universally accepted or justified. Going against such opinions is a FandomHeresy.


** "Isn't Batman just as crazy as his villains?"

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%% ** "Isn't Batman just as crazy as his villains?"



* ''ComicBook/BlackPanther'' fans hate it when the hero is accused of being a mascot for the Black Panther Party. Not only did the comic came out before the party was founded, but Marvel actually changed the hero's name to Black Leopard to avoid any associations with the political organization.

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* ''ComicBook/BlackPanther'' fans hate it when the hero is accused of being a mascot for the Black Panther Party. Not only did the comic came come out before the party was founded, but Marvel actually changed the hero's name to Black Leopard to avoid any associations with the political organization.



** The Ultramarines themselves are polarizing. Even before Ward changed the fluff to make them the "default" loyalist army they were scorned by non-Ultramarine players because they were GW's poster boy army. However Ward's comments that every Space Marine chapter secretly looked up to the Ultramarines and beheld their primarch Roboute Guilliman as their "spiritual liege" whom they all aspired to emulate really set the Ultramarines hate to a new level. Bringing up the Ultramarines won't get you into trouble in and of itself, but mentioning the title "spiritual liege" will. Especially from a Space Wolves, Black Templars, Imperial Fists or Blood Angels player; who hold their primarchs in equally high regard.

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%% ** The Ultramarines themselves are polarizing. Even before Ward changed the fluff to make them the "default" loyalist army they were scorned by non-Ultramarine players because they were GW's poster boy army. However Ward's comments that every Space Marine chapter secretly looked up to the Ultramarines and beheld their primarch Roboute Guilliman as their "spiritual liege" whom they all aspired to emulate really set the Ultramarines hate to a new level. Bringing up the Ultramarines won't get you into trouble in and of itself, but mentioning the title "spiritual liege" will. Especially from a Space Wolves, Black Templars, Imperial Fists or Blood Angels player; who hold their primarchs in equally high regard.



** Don't tell any fan that [[ArtisticAge the characters are lolis]]. Don't even comment that they ''look'' like kids -- unless the character is specifically pointed out in canon to look young, like [[VisualNovel/{{Kanon}} Ayu]] or [[VisualNovel/LittleBusters Kud]] -- and especially don't say that their canon ages are "just a number tacked on so you don't get arrested". In keeping with the aforementioned ArtisticAge, all the haremettes are in high school, often late high school, and so are the protagonists. The fans are really tired of hearing it.

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** Don't tell any fan that [[ArtisticAge Calling the characters are lolis]]. Don't even comment that they ''look'' like kids -- unless lolis. Whatever the character is specifically pointed out in canon to look young, like [[VisualNovel/{{Kanon}} Ayu]] or [[VisualNovel/LittleBusters Kud]] -- and especially don't say that their canon ages are "just a number tacked on so you don't get arrested". In keeping with the aforementioned ArtisticAge, art style may suggest, all the haremettes are in high school, often late high school, school and so are the protagonists. The fans are really tired of hearing it.protagonists.



* Expressing {{squick}} and revulsion at ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' for featuring a ThemedHarem of {{Disabled Love Interest}}s. No, it's not a DeadBabyComedy, even if the source material (a set of joke character designs which the game strongly departed from) is, and the thought that it ''has'' to be is in itself pretty offensive, considering that viewing disabled people as nonsexual beings and anyone who would be interested in them as predatory is a major problem in society as it is.

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* Expressing {{squick}} and revulsion at While ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' may have an unsettling premise for featuring a ThemedHarem of {{Disabled Love Interest}}s. No, Interest}}s, it's not a DeadBabyComedy, even if the source material (a set of joke character designs which the game strongly departed from) is, and the thought is. Assuming that it ''has'' to be is in itself pretty offensive, considering must be, or that viewing it must be fetishising disabilities, is likely to offend fans who may point out that treats the disabled people as inherently nonsexual beings and anyone who would be interested in them loves one as predatory is a major problem in society as it is.predatory.


* Misspelling or mispronouncing a name, whether it belongs to a character, place, concept, the work itself, or the author.

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* Misspelling or mispronouncing a name, or otherwise getting it wrong -- whether it belongs to a character, place, concept, the work itself, or the author.



* Making sweeping (and untrue) assumptions about the entire fanbase. For example, assuming that fans only like a work due to RuleThirtyFour. [[note]]Note that the mere act of drawing R34 isn't enough. See the folder of things that don't qualify below.[[/note]]

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* Making sweeping (and untrue) assumptions about the entire fanbase. For example, assuming that fans only like a work due to RuleThirtyFour. [[note]]Note that the mere act of drawing R34 isn't enough. See the folder of things that don't qualify below.[[/note]]



[[folder:Things that do '''not''' qualify as Fandom-Enraging Misconception]]

The following have frequently been added as examples in the past, despite not being '''objective''' misconceptions about the work. If your example fits one of these, it probably doesn't qualify. If you see an example that fits these, feel free to delete it.

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Misconceptions]]

The following have frequently been added as examples in the past, despite not being '''objective''' may be confused with objective misconceptions about the work. If work, so please make sure your example fits one does not fall under any of these, it probably doesn't qualify. If you see an example that fits these, feel free to delete it.them:



* Preferring one spelling of a character's name over another [[note]]This one mostly applies to transliterared names or names that have been spoken aloud, but never written (or [[SpellMyNameWithAnS written with inconsistent spelling, so nobody knows which is the official one]]). If there is an official spelling, but some fans often make mistakes with it, that does qualify.[[/note]].
* Admitting to having enjoyed certain parts of the work that [[FanonDiscontinuity other fans hate]] (such as the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels)
* Preferring TheFilmOfTheBook or other adaptation to the original, even if most fans hated it.
* Admitting that you only watched the adaptation and not the original source material.
* Admitting to liking TheScrappy or a BaseBreakingCharacter, or admitting to disliking a BaseBreakingCharacter.
** Admitting to disliking an EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Admitting to liking or disliking a ContestedSequel.
* [[SubbingVsDubbing Admitting to having watched or preferring the dubbed version of a foreign work]].
** Using a [[DubNameChange character's translated name]] instead of the original.
* Mentioning certain unpopular {{fanon}} theories[[note]]''Mistaking'' said theories for official canon can be a valid example, though, as can believing explicitly {{Jossed}} theories[[/note]].
* Using a {{discredited| meme}} or [[DudeNotFunny offensive]] {{meme|ticMutation}}.
* Not {{shipping}} the FanPreferredCouple.
** Liking an unpopular pairing.
** Liking controversial pairings, such as [[RomanticizedAbuse an abusive one]] or one that changes a canonically non-straight character's sexual orientation.
* Admitting that you dislike the series or its SacredCow.
* Drawing fanart that makes certain changes to the characters. Even if the changes are potentially controversial or offensive, such as altering a character's [[RaceLift ethnicity]] or body type. ''Especially'' not if the fanart is a "humanized" version of a non-human character.
* Creating or admitting to enjoying RuleThirtyFour or otherwise sexualized fanwork. Not even if said fanwork depicts illegal or controversial situations, or if the source material is for kids and fans are worried [[HarmfulToMinors said kids might accidentally stumble upon said fanwork]].

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* Preferring one spelling of a character's name over another [[note]]This one mostly applies to transliterared names when there ''is'' no official spelling, or names that have been spoken aloud, but never written (or [[SpellMyNameWithAnS written with the spelling is inconsistent spelling, so nobody knows which is the official one]]). If there is an one]]. The same goes for [[NoPronunciationGuide names without official spelling, but some fans often make mistakes with it, that does qualify.[[/note]].
pronunciations]].
* Admitting to having enjoyed certain parts of the work that [[FanonDiscontinuity other fans hate]] (such as the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels)
* Preferring TheFilmOfTheBook or other adaptation to the original, even if most fans hated it.
* Admitting that you only watched the adaptation and not the original source material.
* Admitting to liking TheScrappy or a BaseBreakingCharacter, or admitting to disliking a BaseBreakingCharacter.
** Admitting to disliking an EnsembleDarkhorse.
* Admitting to liking or disliking a ContestedSequel.
* [[SubbingVsDubbing Admitting to having watched or preferring the dubbed version of a foreign work]].
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Using a [[DubNameChange character's translated name]] instead of the original.
* Mentioning certain Merely mentioning an unpopular {{fanon}} theories[[note]]''Mistaking'' said theories theory. ''Mistaking'' such a theory for official canon can be a valid example, though, as can believing explicitly {{Jossed}} theories[[/note]].
* Using a {{discredited| meme}} or [[DudeNotFunny offensive]] {{meme|ticMutation}}.
* Not {{shipping}} the FanPreferredCouple.
** Liking an unpopular pairing.
** Liking controversial pairings, such as [[RomanticizedAbuse an abusive one]] or one that changes a canonically non-straight character's sexual orientation.
* Admitting that you dislike the series or its SacredCow.
theories.
* Drawing fanart that makes certain changes to the characters. Even if the changes are potentially controversial or offensive, such as altering a character's [[RaceLift ethnicity]] or body type. ''Especially'' not if type, they don't count as long as the fanart is a "humanized" version of a non-human character.
* Creating or admitting to enjoying RuleThirtyFour or otherwise sexualized fanwork. Not even if said fanwork depicts illegal or controversial situations, or if
artist doesn't hold objective misconceptions about the source material is for kids and fans are worried [[HarmfulToMinors said kids might accidentally stumble upon said fanwork]].character.



* [[StopHavingFunGuys Not playing a video game the "proper" way]]:
** Using the TierInducedScrappy.
** Picking a level outside of the AbridgedArenaArray.
** Using certain cheap strategies to win.
** Playing on an EasierThanEasy mode.
* Comparing the work to [[FandomRivalry a rival fandom's]].
* Mocking or disrespecting UnacceptableTargets (the fandom will still hate you, though).
* Disagreeing politically with most fans. Not even if someone's being bigoted against a large portion of the fanbase (such as homophobia for a work with a large LGBTFanbase). Any misconceptions from which this bigotry might arise is not a misconception about the work in question.
* Mentioning or liking a work that's been subject to ItsPopularNowItSucks.

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* [[StopHavingFunGuys Not playing a video game the "proper" way]]:
** Using the TierInducedScrappy.
** Picking a level outside of the AbridgedArenaArray.
** Using certain cheap strategies to win.
** Playing on an EasierThanEasy mode.
* Comparing the work to [[FandomRivalry a rival fandom's]].
* Mocking or disrespecting UnacceptableTargets (the fandom will still hate you, though).
fandom's]] as long as the facts themselves are right.
* Disagreeing politically with most fans. Not even if someone's being bigoted against a large portion of the fanbase (such as homophobia for a work with a large LGBTFanbase). Any misconceptions from which this bigotry might arise is not a misconception about the work ''work'' in question.
* Mentioning or liking a work that's been subject to ItsPopularNowItSucks.
question.



* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom''-Enraging Misconception.

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* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around anything that annoys [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom''-Enraging Misconception.

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* ''ComicBook/BlackPanther'' fans hate it when the hero is accused of being a mascot for the Black Panther Party. Not only did the comic came out before the party was founded, but Marvel actually changed the hero's name to Black Leopard to avoid any associations with the political organization.


* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom'' Enraging Misconception.

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* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom'' Enraging ''Fandom''-Enraging Misconception.


'''This AudienceReaction has been subject to some misuse. Fandom Enraging Misconception is for '''''objective''''' mistakes that annoy fans. Please read the following lists to make sure your example actually qualifies.'''

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[[folder:Common Fandom Enraging Fandom-Enraging Misconceptions]]


* The University of Southern California is definitely NOT to be called "Southern Cal" as it is a private institution and not part of the University of California system. It is called "SC" or "USC", although the University of South Carolina has a claim on that one.
* It's Ole Miss and LSU, not "Mississippi" or "Louisiana State". If you want to be excessively formal while talking about the educational institutions themselves, you can say "'''University of''' Mississippi" and "Louisiana State '''University'''", but in any other context -- ''especially'' sports -- you use the nicknames.



* It's ''Johns Hopkins'' University. As in, both words end in the letter s. Not "John Hopkins", and definitely not "John Hopkin." The founder's parents decided to name him "Johns" (after his mother's family name) rather than "John." It's led to over a century of irritated students and alumni correcting people who can't possibly believe that it would be "Johns", even people who really should know better (like long-time Baltimore residents). Also, while the medical school is the most famous part of Hopkins, it offers areas of study as varied as any other top research university. Assuming that everyone who attends Hopkins is studying to become a doctor is a great way to irritate the majority who are not.
* Pronouncing the H in "Amherst, Massachusetts" will mark you as an outsider to any Amherst student or townie. Also, assuming that an Amherst College student means [=UMass=] when s/he says s/he went to "Amherst" will not endear you to him/her.
* Do ''not'' refer to Maize as yellow in the context of the University of Michigan's color (unless you are singing the alma mater, which is actually called "The Yellow and Blue"). Likewise, do not refer to Rutgers' scarlet or Harvard's and Alabama's crimson as red.
* If you're in Britain, don't call University "College". College is an alternative to Sixth Form that many British teenagers do, or one of the institutions that make up [[{{UsefulNotes/Oxbridge}} Oxford and Cambridge Universities]]. Or a further education college, a category which includes but is not limited to sixth-form colleges. The British university system was reformed in the 1990s and institutions perceived as being at a lower status/academic level, the old polytechnics and some of the larger tech colleges, were allowed to step up and recharter as new universities. These institutions remain sensitive about their origins and the perceived snobbery of those who still persist in thinking of them as somehow "inferior" and not real universities. Anyone who, for instance, refers to Manchester Metropolitan University as "Oh, you mean the ''Poly''?" or Owain Glyndwr University of Wrexham as "Ah, the tech college on Mold Road?" is risking pressing a berserk button, and accusations that they're being snooty and superior. Any reference to "[[UsefulNotes/BritishUnis Clown Colleges]]" can be fighting talk in some quarters. A similar tradition also applies to universities in Hong Kong, with universities being institutes for Bachelor Degrees, and colleges (or technically, community colleges) being institutes for Associate Degrees and High Diploma.
* The Oxford college that has a cathedral is called Christ Church, not Christ Church College.


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* Some physicists and mathematicians ''hate'' when you mispronounce "Euler", and saying it as "you-ler"[[note]]It's OY-ler, because of how German spelling works.[[/note]] will earn you the ire from anyone who generally knows who he was. Case in point, [[PickACard pick a YouTube video, any YouTube video]] of an Euler's disk with a "you-ler" pronunciation. At least half of the comments will be correcting their pronunciation.
* Paleobiology fans will ''not'' react well if you say that [[GiantFlyer pterosaurs]], [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs dinosaurs]], or any kind of large extinct reptile are all one and the same.
* Whining about how the paleontological discoveries of the last several decades have "ruined your childhood" (namely the fact that at least certain theropods, and quite possibly most dinosaurs in general, had feathers or feather-like integument of some form) is an even more surefire way to earn you a punch in the face.
* Domesticated ferrets are not rodents, are not omnivorous, and are not wild animals. Don't confuse them with Black-footed Ferrets. One former NYC mayor infamously bugged a lot of ferret owners when he mocked them for protesting against anti-ferret laws, calling them rodents and other negative things, which causes him to be Flame Bait even over twenty years later.
* Never refer to a hypothesis as a 'Theory' unless you want countless scientists telling you how a hypothesis is 'A question based on observations that is able to be tested', while a Theory is 'a well-substantiated, unifying explanation for a set of verified, proven hypotheses.'
* Don't ask why "if humans evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?" and expect anything but annoyance over your total ignorance over how evolutionary biology and speciation works. Extant non-human primates are not our ancestors, they are our cousins.
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** Assuming that Middle-earth is a made-up planet, instead of the actual Earth in an imaginary distant past, as intended.


* ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' is ''not'' a Disney movie (though there is a red-headed Disney ''character'' [[NamesTheSame named]] [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} Anastasia]]).

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}}'' is ''not'' a Disney movie (though there is a red-headed Disney ''character'' [[NamesTheSame named]] [[Disney/{{Cinderella}} Anastasia]]). This has died down a bit ever since Disney bought out 20th Century Fox and their assets, [[HilariousInHindsight including ''Anastasia'']].


* And most of all, admitting to being a fan of the work or simply mentioning it around [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom'' Berserk Button.

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