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openNo Title Literature
I just created a page for the Hostile Takeover series. There is an unrelated novel by the same title, which already has a series page in the Literature index. I thought it might be advisable to make Hostile Takeover a disambiguation page to distinguish the two, but every time I try to access Main, I'm taken to Literature instead.
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Does anyone know whether The Prehistoric Crisis exists as a published work? Someone named Troodon blanked its page (on Main/) with the reason "doesn't exist", Google tells me it has a wiki as well as a post on Yahoo by someone asking for help in writing it 3 years ago. But does it exist as a novel now?
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What should I do if a work ([Literature.Gone Girl]) has a YMMV trope on the main page with a Zero Context Example, and no YMMV page? normally I try and move YMMV examples to where they should be, but ZC Es are a no-no as well, so I'm not sure if I should a) move the entry to a newly-created YMMV page, b) same as a, but commented out (thus creating an effectively-empty YMMV page), or c) Delete the entry entirely?
(Ideally, I'd move the example and add context, but I don't actually know the work.)
Edited by femgeekopenNo Title Literature
Where did the index on Tearjerker/Literature go? O_o A lot of books with tearjerker pages don't have a home anymore!
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Should Animal Farm have spoiler tags? It was written in 1945, half a century ago. Nineteen Eighty-Four, by the same author and written in 1949, has no spoiler tags, and The Reveal in it is exponentially more dramatic and unexpected for the first-time reader than anything in Animal Farm.
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I want to star a works page for the Hellhole trilogy, but I'm not sure how to namespace it. I do know to put it in the literature/ namespace, but I'm not sure whether to name it Hellhole, Hellhole Trilogy or The Hellhole Trilgoy. Should I use Hellhole as a redirect for the longer name?
Edited by EarnestopenNo Title Literature
Where do I get help finding the title of a particular book? I remember some of the plot: a girl was kidnapped to work in a space station and the slaves would then be killed. It was a children's chapter book.
openNo Title Literature
Not even sure if it's the right place to ask...
Literaure theory says that Robinson Crusoe is The Everyman. Since tropes not always follow what literature theory says, but share the same name with them... can he be counted under literature section of The Everyman or more likely under The Generic Guy?
Edited by rzorrzopenNo Title Literature
So, on the Mary Sue Tropes section of the Twilight YMMV page, I deleted a Justifying Edit. Hell, it even started with "To be fair". However, troper https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=YlvaThorgalsdottir re-added it, but just removed the first sentence, with the edit reason being "Unjustified". It's still defending a character's treatments of the Anti-Sue, and has no real relation to the Anti-Sue trope otherwise. Isn't it still a justifying edit?
Edited by XSpectreGreyXopenNo Title Literature
The August 7th edit on "Radar/Literature" deleted probably 4/5 of the page without giving any sort of edit reason. Only two edits have been made since then - is it best just to have the page reverted to the point before that edit?
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Do we have a policy for/against pimping works on the forums? If the latter: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13803061300A62828100&page=0
Edited by JhimmibhobopenNo Title Literature
I ordered a book called Rasp which is related to the bookseries Halvgudene the other day, but it hasn't come yet so won't write about it until then. But I'm wondering about something... if all the important characters in the book are also in Halvgudene, would it be possible that if one click on "characters" on the future Rasp-page that it takes one to Halvgudene's character page? Or even better, straight to where the information on Rasp herself is? Thanks ^^
Edited by killikimopenNo Title Literature
grarrrg2 on Drunken Master removed this Film entry "* Haymitch Abernathy is the drunken mentor to Katniss and Peeta in The Hunger Games. He then placed a double-bulleted entry. "** The Movie version of Haymitch mostly just comes across as drunk" under the primary entry of Literature.The Hunger Games.
Should this be reverted/edited under Example Indentation? I want to make sure of what is the right thing to do here.
openNo Title Literature
From the Literature/Frankenstein page:
- Beauty Equals Goodness:
- Averted with the Creature, who started out a hideous but well-intentioned individual and only became villainous because of constant mistreatment.
Wouldn't this be an inversion rather than an aversion? If I understand correctly, an aversion to this trope would be if a character was extremely good-looking, and evil as sin.
Edited by RayAP19openNo Title Literature
In the flowers for algernon page I added an trope instance of bring my brown pants
- Bring My Brown Pants: One of the few times it's Played for Drama. Charlie has a tendency, especially as a kid, to shit himself whenever he gets frightened, which doesn't take much considering he's retarded. This just leads to more pain and suffering since then Rose decides she has to spank him, somehow thinking that disciplining him will stop him from being retarded.
- Bring My Brown Pants: One of the few times it's Played for Drama.
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OK, I've got a doozy of a puzzle here. One of the two protagonists of Journey to the West is a Buddhist monk with a hell of a lot of names, and our page on the book is quite inconsistent about which ones it uses. Here's the list:
- Chen: His family name, serves as a prefix to most names below (i.e., Chen Xuanzang).
- Jiangliu: His original birth-name. Little used either within the book or by other sources.
- Xuanzang: His Buddhist name, given when he became a monk. One of the most commonly-used names outside the book - this is how Wikipedia refers to him, as well as most (though not all) of the entries on our page.
- Sanzang: His courtesy, or adult, name. Buddhist monks don't normally have these, but he was given one by the Tang Emperor of China in anticipation and celebration of his journey to the West to obtain the true Buddhist scriptures and bring them back. The Emperor also adopted him into is family, making his full name Tang Sanzang rather than Chen Xuanzang. 'Sanzang' derives from son zhang, the Chinese term for the Three Baskets, the scriptures at the heart of Buddhist canon. As a result, a number of translations refer to Sanzang the monk by the original Sanskrit name of these scriptures, Tripitaka. Sanzang/Tripitaka is the name used throughout the vast majority to the book, which deals with the journey of the title.
In order to maintain consistency, then, which name should we pick and stick with on that page - Chen Xuanzang, Tang Sanzang, or Tripitaka?
Edited by IaculusopenNo Title Literature
While making a page for a novel, I screwed up and accidentally made both a Main page and a Literature page for it, basically giving it two pages. How would I go about deleting the Main page? PM a mod?
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Possible edit war brewing on the The Dresden Files YMMV page. Troper efay's making some edits to Unfortunate Implications that are both complaint-heavy and without citations. I've requested it be taken to the discussion page before we get too heated. Thoughts?
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I created a page for the book Gods and Generals today and have a question about indexing. It's about real figures from the American Civil War, but it's a novelization, so does it go in the Historical Fiction index?
I want to add a new page for a book. How do you create new pages on the website?