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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
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#3001: Sep 18th 2019 at 10:36:21 AM

By the way, can these Decepticons stop transforming into aircrafts? No, Makeshift and Vehicons don't count.

You're gonna love Knock Out and Breakdown. Knock Out's introduction even lampshades how odd it is for a Decepticon to choose a land vehicle for an alt-mode.

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#3002: Sep 18th 2019 at 10:53:01 AM

I'm still planning my schedule to have a season (as in two-three months) of watching Transformers content. And yes, I will be watching the Japan-exclusive anime series too (Transformers: ★Headmasters, Transformers: Super-God Masterforce, Transformers Victory, Transformers Zone, Beast Wars II, Beast Wars Neo, Transformers: Go!). And even Transformers: Energon (most definitely will be So Bad, It's Good to me), The Transformers: Combiner Wars and the Transformers Film Series!

BTW, I've heard that, apparently, Hasbro didn't want a fembot to have the name Lugnut in Transformers: Cyberverse. And her name was changed into Clobber at the last minute (explaining why in some foreign dubs Clobber is instead called Lugnut). Shame...

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#3003: Sep 18th 2019 at 10:54:08 AM

I'm also occasionally dabbling back to Armada too. Maybe I'll start Cybertron once I'm finished with Prime.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#3004: Sep 18th 2019 at 11:04:04 AM

I've been feeling an itch to restart Beast Wars.

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VeryVileVillian (Apprentice)
#3006: Sep 18th 2019 at 11:58:31 AM

[up]In honor of it, here is the review of this series from fan of Transformers G1 and Beast Wars, Phelous:

Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#3007: Sep 18th 2019 at 12:12:07 PM

[up]I've watched the first episode to honor its anniversary. Pretty interesting so far.

Eventually, I'm just heating up for the Transformers season! I can't wait!

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#3009: Sep 18th 2019 at 4:16:15 PM

I'm rather curious if Cyberverse will bring about the rest of the Dinobots.

Also its sad that the Dinobots couldn't appear in Prime. Imagine how crazy things could have got. Like the Wreckers Trio got fed up with Wheeljack's Lone Wolf shtick so imagine an entire squad of rowdy Bots causing problems for the rest of the team.

Plus Grimlock vs Predaking, Cool vs Awesome right there.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 18th 2019 at 4:17:45 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3010: Sep 18th 2019 at 4:30:15 PM

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That would have been pretty cool.

I like the idea that while the faction ideology & desire to beat the enemy is what unites them, there are still bots with their own distinctive motivation for doing things that may or may not be morally righteous. Like how some Cons can be honorable warriors more fit to be an Autobot or some Bots are unscrupulous deceivers fir to be Deceptions but they aren't because regardless of their flaws they genuinely believe that their faction is right & believe in the ideology even if they themselves don't actually fit it.

That kinda sorta makes me think of IDW Prowl. He truly did believe in the Autobot cause, but pulled some pretty scummy moves in the name of said cause, to the point that hardly any of his fellow bots could stand him.

And yet he was an Autobot through and through and even had some genuine heroic moments.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#3011: Sep 19th 2019 at 9:23:52 AM

Prime episodes 9-15.

Miko continues to be the worst.

Airachnid is awesome. Love her spider form. She is my favorite villain so far. Too bad she is another black and purple aircraft.

Knock Out is also great. He is my second favorite Decepticon. Dude just wants to stay fabulous all the time, which I can relate. He is also a rare Decepticon medic too.

For all the hype the Energon Harvester got, it turned out to be a slow killing gun.

Optimus has a trailer! Please be his Super Mode!

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Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#3012: Sep 19th 2019 at 11:27:54 AM

I have already crafted my guide for watching the Transformers animated series starting from December 16, 2019 to March 6, 2020note  Still needing a revision, though.

Wish me good luck (until then)!

Edited by Andrei_Bondoc on Sep 19th 2019 at 9:28:11 PM

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#3013: Sep 19th 2019 at 12:30:35 PM

Oh boy, Season 1 Miko, yeah, she's the worse.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#3014: Sep 19th 2019 at 12:31:54 PM

She's helped me realize what makes a good human character & what doesn't.

Simply put, don't be an active burden on the Autobots.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2019 at 12:37:10 PM

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Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#3015: Sep 19th 2019 at 12:43:05 PM

Did you know that Mae Catt does her impressions of every episode of Transformers: Cyberverse's second Chapter, Power of the Spark (she is a writer of this season)?

You can check them out here, here and here. She covered the first three episodes so far. Also this stuff is pretty in-depth and full of interesting info.

Edited by Andrei_Bondoc on Sep 19th 2019 at 10:43:41 PM

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Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#3016: Sep 19th 2019 at 4:28:09 PM

Knock Out is also great. He is my second favorite Decepticon. Dude just wants to stay fabulous all the time, which I can relate. He is also a rare Decepticon medic too.

Knock Out is one of the greatest additions that Transformers Prime added into the overall lore of the Transformers series. Unlike most Decepticons, who are primarily based on military vehicles, Knock Out chooses a civilian vehicle for his alt-mode and likes it for the fashion. He is pretty much an Autobot... if said-Autobot was evil, vain about his paint job and likes to take things apart instead of fixing the Cons. And his presence subverts the whole No Cure for Evil implication that the Decepticons seem to have for almost the entire franchise.

Then there's also that Ho Yay relationship with Breakdown (which pretty much became canon in the IDW series). It may not seem that much in Season 1, but Season 2 really amps it up after Breakdown dies. Good old Knock Out laments losing his fellow partner, complaining about buffering his paint job without Breakdown's help, and wanting to eviscerate Silas for turning Breakdown into a walking suit of armor for a human. Most Decepticons won't care when someone on their team bites the dust (other than mere inconvenience of having less firepower to use against the Autobots). Which makes Knock Out stands out the more.

Edited by Shadao on Sep 19th 2019 at 4:30:31 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#3017: Sep 19th 2019 at 4:49:41 PM

If you got to Archive on Primes, Breakdown/Knock Out is the most popular ship of the show at 501 fics.

For further fun, after that in order is Megtraon/Optimus at 352, Megatron/Starscrem at 347, Optimus/Ratchet at 313, Megatron/Orion Pax at 216 weirdly enough, Knock Out/Starscream at 161, Megatron/Soundwave at 146, somehow Jazz/Prowl at 85, Ratchet/Wheeljack at 75, & Bumblebee/Smokescreen at 71.

Whatever ship fics Arcee has, its definitively less than 70. tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2019 at 4:50:49 AM

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#3018: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:24:22 PM

I just thought Knockout and Breakdown were brothers.

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chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#3019: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:26:32 PM

It's Transformers. The slash fics are always the most popular. Although checking AO3, the most popular ship with Arcee is Arcee/Cliffjumper with 54 fics.

IIRC, I believe the IDW comics later included their own version of Knock Out and Breakdown and made them a canon couple.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Sep 19th 2019 at 8:27:58 AM

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#3020: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:27:10 PM

Why isn't Jackie paired with Bulky?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#3021: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:29:36 PM

[up][up][up] Nah see Transformer siblings generally heavily resemble each other which Knock Out & Breakdown don't. You'll find what real siblings look like soon enough.

[up] I assume he was, I guess its just not as popular as the other pairings. I'm surprised Ratchet/Wheeljack is a thing.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 19th 2019 at 5:59:15 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3022: Sep 19th 2019 at 5:55:43 PM

Nah see Transformer siblings always heavily resemble each other which Knock Out & breakdown don't. You'll find what real siblings look like soon enough.

What about the Autobot brothers?

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Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#3023: Sep 19th 2019 at 7:18:21 PM

I liked Animated's take on the Palette Swap concept basically characters sharing the same type of "shell" in-universe.

I still liked Prime's take on the concept with spark twins, though I also liked the attempts to make certain characters distinct. I liked Cliffjumper's design for keeping the general G1 design and Bumblebee being more movie-oriented for that reason.

I still kind of wish that Bee's design in Cyberverse downplayed the G1 elements, admittedly, since I liked the smoothed head and camaro lines from the movies. I'd even have liked if they used Bumblebee's "antennae".

Edited by Etheru on Sep 19th 2019 at 7:20:15 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3024: Sep 19th 2019 at 7:23:12 PM

...

I alternate between liking the movie nods to Bumblebee (I gotta say, they've made me a believer in the Camaro look) and preferring his older Beetle design (or at least a vehicle that harkens to that, like how animated Bumblebee was a Hatchback).

We've yet to see a Bumblebee who's as strong a fighter as his Camaro forms but still small like his G1 / Animated forms. I get that'd be hard, but I'd like to see it myself.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#3025: Sep 19th 2019 at 7:24:35 PM

[up][up]Cyberverse Bumblebee doesn't seem that G1 to me, except for the tiny horns. He looks like a combination of Animated Bee and modern BayBee.

[up]The Beatle Bee is actually smaller than he should be, as a result of scale issues between Microman (Bumblebee) and Diaclone (Optimus).

Edited by RAlexa21th on Sep 19th 2019 at 7:26:36 AM

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