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Does anyone else have anything to say about User's EP? I think that some people may have missed it.

Also Vile's EP may need more votes too, it's currently at 7.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Jul 14th 2020 at 4:31:08 AM

Feel free to request those. I'm fine with those potholes.

Or, say, In Death, which has 13 entries (well, 14 monsters, but one's a duo), but has been around since 1995 and has 50 novels plus.

Speaking of, I think I may have another In Death candidate.

Edited by ACW on Jul 14th 2020 at 4:29:14 AM

Trout, while dark for We Bare Bears, seems to be more of a plain MEH crossing Hate Sink whose actions just barely stand apart from the other villains, especially since they tried to kill the bears as well.

Edited by xie323 on Jul 14th 2020 at 1:34:44 AM

to Duat, Lucius, Masale, and Talleyrand

Abstain on Trout

Edited by G-Editor on Jul 13th 2020 at 10:31:48 PM

to Talleyrand.

to Trout.

Yes to Talleyrand.

Hey I managed to get my life somewhat stable, but I still won't be here as often as I normally would. As I will still be pretty busy. However it is better than nothing.

Edited by Bullman on Jul 14th 2020 at 3:53:35 AM

to Talleyrand. I wonder if he was deliberately named after this guy.

to talleyrend

To trout

Yes to Talleyrand no to Trout. The closest thing I can find where all of the villains count would be the RE films since 5 of the 7 major villains count (as in all but one of the individual films' Big Bads).

Edited by papyru30 on Jul 14th 2020 at 3:08:18 AM

to Duat, Lucius, Masale and Talleyrand. Trout.

Duat.

Lucius.

Masale.

Talleyrand.

Nay to Agent Trout.

Talleyrand

Trout

I'm not sure when Lighty is going to start on the Guild Wars effort posts, so I'm gonna go ahead and do my first one from Guild Wars 2 tomorrow. I normally like to line these things up, but it won't hurt to get the ball rolling and follow up on Abaddon.

Pretty much next on my list now. Go right ahead and I won't be long behind

Anyway just to announce this but I am starting The otherworld by jelly Armstrong which Bitten was based and going to do a full read of the 13 books. I have a couple of guys I'm interested in so we are going to see a new page the thanks to the subtlety Armstrong has in terms of her villains.

Pm me for more details.

Edited by miraculous on Jul 14th 2020 at 3:10:00 AM

I'm wondering if there are other Artix Entertainment qualifiers we haven't looked over apart from the 3(?) we have right now.

I found this under SCP-4666's character page

• Blue-and-Orange Morality: It usually torture-murders families and enslaves the youngest members of them, but sometimes it does absolutely nothing other than giving gifts (albeit incredibly macabre ones made out of people). The gift recipients presumably qualify as "nice" according to whatever criteria that it uses to judge the people that it stalks.

should that be of concern or no?

Yeah, that In Death keeper I mentioned definitely counts. I'll EP him next week or so. Assassin with 40+ hits; frequently rapes his victims beforehand (male OR female).

Not necessarily; it goes with him playing the guise of Santa Claus.

so delete that?

Yes.

Possible image for Keiichi Asamiya◊, X-Cross.

Alright, so this is a character that has been brought up a couple times before in the thread but has never actually received a legitimate EP, and while I do admit that I don't have high hopes that this character will make the cut, I do think that he stands out just enough to at least warrant a proper effort post

So here we go.

What's the work?

Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, and the sequel Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 are a reboot of the popular Castlevania video game franchise which chronicles the esteemed Belmont family and their conflict with the powerful vampire lord Dracula. The reboots (which happens to be my favorite games of all time btw) change a couple details while adding in a couple more elements. The first game is about how a terrible curse that has been casted upon the world that has separated the earth from the Heavens and allowing monsters to wreak havoc. Enter Gabriel Belmont, the founder of the Belmont family, the warrior chosen to save the world. Along his quest he meets another warrior who aids him in his journey. A warrior by the name of Zobek played by Patrick Stewart.

Who is Zobek and what does he do?

The narrator of the first game, Zobek is properly introduced to the player by saving Gabriel from the Ice Titan. Gabriel and Zobek are both members of the Brotherhood of Light, an ancient order of holy warriors dedicated to protecting the innocent from the supernatural. Gabriel interacts with spirit of his wife Marie who tells Gabriel of a prophecy. Zobek explains to Gabriel that this prophecy tells of a powerful warrior who would kill the Lords of Shadow and take their power as his own. The Lords of Shadow are a trio of Monster Lords that lead each of the three main supernatural races: the lycanthropes, the vampires, and the necromancers. Gabriel and Zobek than organize the plan to defeat the Dark Lords once and for all and depart on their own separate ways.

We meet Zobek once more after Gabriel has defeated Cornell the Lycanthrope Dark Lord, in the land of the vampires. Zobek helps Gabriel retrieve a relic to fight against the vampires before they separate once more.

We meet Zobek one last time in the first game in the Land of the Dead, after Gabriel killed Carmilla, the Vampire Dark Lady, when Gabriel completes the God Mask, a divine relic that is said to bring back the dead. Zobek than reveals himself to be the Lord of the Dead and the one who casted the aforementioned curse. Zobek explains that each of the three Dark Lords guard a part of the God Mask, and Zobek has desired that artifact for a really long time and went to Hell to search for an answer to gain access to it. During his journey into Hell, a powerful dark force (revealed to be Satan himself) enters Zobek which gives him the idea to cast the curse and exploit the prophecy for his benefit. Zobek reveals to Gabriel that he actually influenced Gabriel into killing Marie using an unholy artifact called the Devil Mask, which was what motivated Gabriel into going on his quest in the first place. Zobek had also influenced Gabriel into killing a mute girl by the name of Claudia earlier in the game, and revels in Gabriel's resulting despair before killing him. Of course Zobek is revealed to be a Unwitting Pawn to Satan and is set aflame, while Gabriel is resurrected to fight Satan.

The post-credits scene reveals that Zobek actually survived being burned alive and it shows him warning Gabriel, now Dracula, of Satan's imminent return, and offers to free him of his immortality if he helps him stop Satan.

There's also a interquel that takes place between the two games called Castlevania: Lords of Shadow – Mirror of Fate. While Zobek himself doesn't appear, one of his necromancers shows up to retrieve the Combat Cross of Gabriel's son Trevor.

In the sequel, Dracula awakens after centuries of sleep and greatly deprived of blood. Zobek sends his lieutenant to retrieve him and take him to Zobek's lair. Dracula awakens in a blood-crazed frenzy in front of a innocent family that Zobek abducted to feed to Dracula, which Dracula than feeds on.

Zobek than coerces Dracula into helping him prevent Satan's return. While he acts cordial and polite with Dracula, it's stated in his in-game bio that Zobek intends on having Dracula and Satan kill one another so that he can come out on top in the end and reign supreme.

In the final act of the game, it's revealed that the entire plot is actually a master plan devised by Dracula and his son Alucard; Dracula fakes his death which would draw both Zobek and Satan (who are both terrified of him) out of the woodwork and allow both Drac and Al to kill their sworn enemies. When Zobek learns of this, he teleports to their location with the Vampire Killer, the only weapon in creation capable of ending the existence of a true immortal including Dracula, and angrily reacts to this revelation by trying to kill them both, hammily accusing Dracula of betraying him despite the fact that he was intending on doing the same to him. After an epic duel, Zobek charges at Dracula with Vampire Killer, but Dracula thrusts the Void Sword through Zobek, killing the vile necromancer.

Mitigating Factos?

It's explained in the first game, that the Lords of Shadow came into being when the three founders of the Brotherhood of Light performed a ritual that transformed their souls into angels, leaving behind their bodies. The bodies contained their inner darkness. Now while this might be an instant disqualifier, I think it's important to note that unlike the other Dark Lords, who were perfectly content to stay in their own domains, Zobek was the one who actively sought greater power and desired the power of the God Mask for himself. And while it was revealed that he was possessed by Satan, I think that all that did was make him more powerful and give him the to exploit the prophecy. Influencing Gabriel into killing Marie and Claudia and relishing in his pain was all on Zobek.

The second game pretty much confirms that he is just a monster without Satan backing with his intentions of arranging Dracula and Satan fighting each other, and feeding an innocent family to Dracula. All this in my opinion truly sets him apart from the other two Lords of Shadow.

Heinousness

As some of you may already know, Lords of Shadow already has a CM in the form of Satan, who was the one who came up with the idea of the plot of the first game and arranged it through Zobek. That said Zobek was the one that did most of the work. He was the one who decided that Gabriel would be the warrior, influenced into killing Marie and Claudia and manipulated into killing the Lords of Shadow with promise of bring Marie back.

He's also responsible for one of the vilest acts in the games when he feeds a father, mother, and young daughter to Dracula. While Dracula was insane when he fed on them, and was later shown to be disturbed by what he did. Zobek however shows no remorse or empathy whatsoever, not even sparing a word for the family.

Final Verdict

As I said in the beginning, I'm not exactly confident that he'll make the cut, but I did think that he was someone worth properly E Ping

I have to say no to Zobek. Just because he's nastier and more ambitious means little. He still has no agency.

Zobek.