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Joujin

Yes to Joujin. Not even gonna ask how Oboro managed to give birth but okay.

As for Tenzen? Do it if it would be fun, pretty well just a formality for him.

Edited by 43110 on Jul 5th 2018 at 2:13:11 PM

Yes to Joujin. And before I sleep. I want to say this: No one counts in Dances With the Dragons... Because two of the main villains sets the standard very high and both of them have redeeming qualities. Though one of the main villain could be one of the easiest keeps for Magnificent Bastard trope at least for me... Just wait until I EP him in there.

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Jul 6th 2018 at 1:15:18 AM

Joujin.

Yeah, go for a Tenzen effortpost. On that note, can you effortpost another candidate who I don't think was effortposted, and who even you said was iffy: Koshichiro.

Man, what's the connection between the anime/manga/Yagyu Ninja Scrolls/Jubei Yagyu Dies/the other one? I feel that, if not a page, any connected ones should be under a tree.

Yes to Joujin, Rikka Miyata and Yasushi Miyata.

I got some hands on some new Marvel novels, but there are a lot more Marvel novels (and one DC novel) that might have a monster in them.

I would want cover some of these novels, but there are some novels that others can cover. Either PM or just ask me here if you are interested in covering one of these novels.

What's the Dc one, I might want to cover that.

Edited by Bullman on Jul 5th 2018 at 11:33:13 AM

So what's the names of the books. I might check a few out.

Also for Cambieas and the otyer guy from home and away are we all in agreement to cut. Just want to be sure.

Edited by miraculous on Jul 5th 2018 at 11:35:39 AM

For yagyu/Basilisk...maybe same 'world', but the connection is too tenuous for a tree or page.

Though the Yagyu trilogy may need a tree?

Alright. Saves me the work

Edited by ACW on Jul 5th 2018 at 3:01:23 PM

Not needed.

To The Japanese siblings and Joujin

Speaking of which, I think a while back a Galaxy Express 999 tree was made? Does that really make sense? I mean, Hardgear is from a continuity where Maetal and Esmerelda are sisters, the film versions are not, so I don't really see the point.

Actually, y'know what? If you're gonna tag it as a franchise tree that's fine, I just didn't want one that gave the indication they were from the same timeline.

Edited by 43110 on Jul 5th 2018 at 3:14:47 PM

I was thinking something like this:

• Galaxy Express 999 franchise:
  • 1979 film:
    • Count Mecha is the nemesis of young Tetsuro. Once a man who accepted mechanization, Count Mecha decides to fill his days with hunting to alleviate boredom. His chosen prey? Human beings. Mecha hunts down and slaughters countless innocents on his private world, including Tetsuro's mother, before taking them and mounting their remains as obscene trophies. When Tetsuro arrives, Mecha only sneers that he's killed too many mothers to remember them all and tries to murder the boy as well.
    • Queen Promethium, the mother of the heroine Maetel, condemned her world La Metal to mechanization and tried to murder Maetel's father when he attempted to oppose her. Running La Metal as a horrific dystopia, Promethium has people abducted and made into living machines to serve in perpetual agony as the power source of La Metal, having forced Maetel into a machine body so Maetel will gather victims for that purpose. When Maetel reveals her true plans against her evil mother, Promethium attempts to murder Tetsuro herself to deny Maetel any sense of victory.
  • Maetel Legend: Lord Hardgear is a Mad Scientist who wants to encase all of humanity in machine bodies that he can brainwash and control. Convincing the Queen of his planet to undergo the mechanization process, Hardgear has her order her subjects to do the same and threatens to kill those who refuse. During the mechanization process itself, the soul is separated from the body, which Hardgear liquefies and drinks. While fighting the Queen's daughters, Hardgear sends mechanized versions of their friends to attack them, relishing in exercising control over their former comrades.

Yeah, I originally wasn't gonna have the franchise thing, but became convinced that it's probably a good idea to.

Edited by ACW on Jul 5th 2018 at 3:20:09 PM

I hope that everyone had a good Independence Day. I am still taking a break from this forum, but I will be back soon to talk about the final FNAF novel, The Fourth Closet. I have also been looking at some films to see for candidates during my time off, so I will have a plethora of films to see for candidates, and probably a plethora that will be added, after my break is done.

Joujin and Helldriver duo

Joujin

Here are my writeups.

• Bloody Chainsaw Girl (2016): Nero Aoi is a misanthropic, teenage scientist at Uguisu School who has dreams of world domination. Having become a pariah after experimenting on animals, Nero decides to be an anti-social outcast who builds a lab underneath the school and painfully turns her bullies into her mutant cyborg minions. Angered at Giko Nokomura for trying to befriend her, Nero orders her cyborgs kill her, planning to convert Giko into her own personal cyborg. Manipulating others into working for her, she coerces bullied cheerleader Bakutani into becoming a cyborg, and forcefully gives a sex change to the head of the ninja club to make him, Hanzo, and the club her cyborg bodyguards. Forcing the shop class to make weapons for her cyborgs, she turns 18 of its members into cyborgs, later killing them off and making them still-living skull attachments that power her Chainsaw of the Dead. Meeting Giko on the roof, Nero kills Hanzo when he gets in her way, attempts to detonate Bakutani when she tries to make amends with everyone, and still tries to kill Giko after she attempts to talk her into friendship.

• Samurai Princess (2009): Kyoraku is the creator of the mechas, fleshy mechanical dolls made from human body parts who turn insane and violent upon completion. Having created the mechas for both fun and scientific progress, he sends out couple Kujira and Kocho to slaughter everyone in their paths and collect the severed limbs; they end up killing and raping Gedôhime’s 11 sisters, with Kyoraku turning Gedôhime into the Samurai Princess. Prior to these events, he took Gekko’s sister after she became infected with a disease and turned her into a mecha, causing her to go insane, bite off Gekko’s arm, and kill her parents, leading to Kyoraku converting Gekko into a mecha to kill her. When the couple are killed by the Samurai Princess and Gekko, Kyoraku splices them together to create the ultimate mecha, and pits it against the Samurai Princess, gleefully watching as it lays waste to her.

• Helldriver (2010):
  • Rikka Miyata is the Queen of Zombies, and Kika’s abusive mother. In life, she—along with her brother Yasushi Miyata—was a cannibalistic serial killer who would kill people and eat their bodies, having 20 victims under her belt. Eating her husband’s legs in front of Kika, she burns him alive and tries to kill her. Becoming the Zombie Queen, she lets them eat everyone in their path, declaring that everything in the world is hers. Sensing Kika and friends trying to stop her, she sends out her zombies to kill them, resulting in numerous deaths. Once Kika meets her, Rikka tortures Kika and creates a giant zombie made out of other zombies, using them to distract the guards blocking the wall. When her giant zombie starts flying through the air, she drops her zombies onto the south side of Japan, watching as they devour hundreds in their path.
  • The aforementioned Yasushi Miyata is Rikka’s Neo-Nazi, cannibalistic brother-in-crime who helped her eat and kill 20 people. Cooking and feasting on Kika’s father’s legs, he chases after Kika with a desire to eat her, killing two cops trying to stop him. After Rikka becomes the Zombie Queen, she makes Yasushi her zombie second-in-command. The leader of a zombie base, he has humans locked up to be fed to him and his zombies cohorts. Continuing his love of human flesh, he kidnaps No-Name’s sister Maya and eats her leg and nipples, mortally wounding her in the process. A psychotic killer, Yasushi revels in being a zombie, as it allows him to eat whomever he wants without any consequences.

Edited by therealjackieboy on Jul 5th 2018 at 1:20:23 AM

Speaking of Marvel Novels I was thinking of reading the novelization of some of the Spider-man films to see if someone from there qualities. Has someone already proposed them.

Joujin

Yasushi Miyata

Rikka Miyata

Edited by KazuyaProta on Jul 5th 2018 at 3:20:54 AM

Alrighty.

• Black Bat: Oliver "Olly" Snate is a cheerfully wicked crime lord who runs The City through a mix of bribery, intimidation and violence. Murdering other criminals and bystanders alike, Snate grew enraged when Tony Quinn refused to give up a witness for him to execute and personally carved Quinn's eyes out. On the run later and enraged at the DA going after him, Snate conspires with Cameron Tell to kidnap multiple police officers, having one murdered to force another to set off a bomb in the courthouse to kill hundreds if not thousands of innocents. When escaping from jail later, Snate even pointlessly murders one officer just because, in his words, "I hate cops," treating all the lives he destroys as little more than business and pleasure.
• Sliders: Governor Schick of California Reich is the governor of California frequently likened to Hitler by the Sliders. In a world without World War 2, Schick rises to power blaming minorities for crime and restricts their rights, even having them interned. Not satisfied with this, Schick has them lobotomized and mutilated to make them into android slaves on a grand scale, even children not exempt from his policies. Schick plans to ride a wave of bigotry to the Presidency and enact his policies there, being one of the most sickening enemies the Sliders have ever faced.
• Pandorum: Corporal Gallo of the Elysium decided without earth that morality meant nothing. Murdering the other members of the bridge crew, Gallo awoke other members of the 60,000 strong crew from cryo-sleep and drove them into the bowels of the ship, having them murder each other and cannibalize the dead for his own amusement, sentencing them to mutate with a special algae aboard the ship into feral creatures with a bloody culture and a drive to hunt other survivors Gallo would awaken. Periodically freezing himself to prolong his life, Gallo reigns over the ship, playing sadistic games with those he awakens, sending them to be hunted. Gallo later murders another survivor himself, attempting to prevent the ship from being salvaged so he can continue ruling his own twisted little kingdom.
• Baslisk: The Ouka Ninja Scrolls: the main villain Joujin has the Treasures of Koga and the Flowers of Iga massacred to show off the abilities of his team, the Joujinshu. Seeking to turn the world into a living hell to satisfy his desires, Joujin attempts to implant the soul of Nobunaga Oda in the bodies of others, a process which kills them, and seeks to use Tadanaga Tokugawa as a host, later having him eliminated when he proves troublesome. He then attempts to force Hibiki Iga and her twin brother Hachiro Koga into incest for his plot, trying to kill them when they refuse and having their friends killed. In a different timeline, Joujin happily has Edo turned into an inferno, before trying to kill Hachiro and Hibiki again, before trying to rape Hibiki to create a new bloodline to send the world to hell with.
• Red Sonja: Sonja's greatest nemesis, the evil sorcerer Kulan Gath manipulates untold amounts of bloodshed and destruction to restore himself to Hyboria. Taking over the world, Kulan Gath enacts a horrific dystopia where he sacrifices people for their blood to use in his rituals and has countless innocents slaughtered for refusing to worship him or even hesitating in his worship. Keeping his former lover, the Goddess Scathach as an abused slave, Gath is defeated but later returns, moving throughout the centuries and killing more and more innocents. Arriving on earth, Gath summons demons to kill countless innocents and tries to enact the end of time to obliterate the universe and create everything again in his own image. A spiteful, egotistical, sadistic monster, Gath repeatedly proves why he is Sonja's most horrific enemy.

So out of curiosity, how many entries are we up this week already ?

42, plus the Sliders one (I'm waiting for Overlord's), plus all the Red Sonja ones.

Literature:

• Aeon 14: Stavros in Rika Redeemed is without a doubt the most vile person in The 'Verse thus far. The dictator of a (relatively) small empire in the Praesepe Cluster called The Politica, he drove the Oranians off their homeworld onto another deeper in the system, turning their home in exile into a Vichy Earth in direct imitation of the ancient Romans and Nazis (something he says he's done elsewhere). He has also technologically and psychologically enslaved almost his entire military, including many combat cyborgs known as "mechs". In the book proper, when Silva, the mother of his heir by a one-night stand who was later turned into a mech, attempted to retrieve her daughter Amy, whom he beats, he captured her and enslaved her as Amy's bodyguard/pet, using her compliance chip to force her never to reveal that she is Amy's mother while encouraging Amy to address her as "Meat", a Fantastic Slur for mechs. (She doesn't.) When Rika, Silva's former subordinate, goes undercover in The Politica as a defector from her mercenary company, Stavros insists on installing a compliance chip in her as well. Rika is immune, but in order to maintain her cover is forced to play along with Stavros using the chip to make her fellate him. Leslie, one of Rika's teammates, is captured during the mission and chipped as well. When Rika finally initiates the plan to liberate the mechs and kill Stavros, he resorts to (unsuccessfully) using his own daughter Amy as a Human Shield.

Edited by StarSword on Jul 5th 2018 at 4:56:22 AM

After rewatching Uncle Sam, I'm starting to have second thoughts about Sam Harper being a CM. So I'll pick apart my effortpost for him to explain why:

1. The obvious. Offstage Villainy. Yes, he was a scumbag rapist and domestic abuser even before he started killing people, and while the scene where Sally and Louise reveal the truth about Sam to Jody is uncharacteristically heavy for such an overall schlockfest, I think it still doesn't count because it's all offscreen.

2. It's really just a standard slasher with all but two of his victims being assholes. Maybe not deserving of death except in Sam's mind, but definitely not "innocent" as is often the case with slashers who do get approved by this thread. Not to mention his killings don't really stand out as vicious for the genre, with the exception of the live burial and firework killings.

3. He seems actually have some genuine respect for his country. Yes, he joined the army to get a free pass at killing people, but from the expression in his eyes when Jesse "moons" the audience after botching the National Anthem and his letter to Jody makes me think that patriotism is serious business to him. Granted, having strong personal values doesn't stop one from being a CM (as is the case with John Doe and Anton Chigurh), but it kinda strikes me as Even Evil Has Standards.

4. The scene with Barry. In fact, Barry's arc in general. He claims that Sam won't hurt him and Jody because he sees them as allies. Of course, he appears to try to take Jody with him once he's burning, which I interpret as him seeing that as betrayal. As for the scene I'm talking about, Sam vows to get revenge on the people responsible for Barry's blindness and scarring. Next to nothing is explained in the movie, but given how Sam died, it seems more like a really creepy Pet the Dog moment than it does him intentionally trying to rattle Barry's cage.

5. His relationship with Jody. It's really ambiguous. He corresponded with him while he was in the war, and does seem to care about him at least to some extent.

Wow. Look at me. I actually did an analysis of Uncle Sam. I need a hobby. So anyone in favor of cutting him?

Edited by Stellarvore on Jul 5th 2018 at 3:54:12 AM

I wouldn't be opposed.

Effortpost please.

As opposed to cutting for the standards or ambiguous relationships unto themselves, it makes me think he's off his knocker to the point I'm doubting he quite grasps the reality around him. Cut Uncle Sam.