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Shredder

Not gonna point any fingers, but can we also please desist with the patronizing "you should know better comments"? It's not nice. Furthermore, we accomplish the exact same thing by sending a polite PM explaining what needs to be done differently next time and why.

Ironsmoke, Omell, Pielecki, & Kubczak. Shredder & Poprawa. Writeup:

• Buli and Guli are a pair of Zeref cultists behind the initial construction of the Tower of Heaven through primarily child labor. Responsible for such massacres like the one at the Rosemary Village, they and their comrades rounded up many child slaves to work gruelingly under the threat of death or force. One of their victims was Erza Scarlet, who was brutalized to such an extent she lost an eye.

Also... while I'm here... Long overdue.

What is the work?

In the Solar Calendar 198, Fire Force written by Atsushi Ohkubo of Soul Eater fame has a fire squad named, you guessed it, Fire Forces around the world to combat "Spontaneous Human Combustion", where many people face the risk of turning into "Infernals": rampaging beasts with no control over themselves and in a state of burning pain. One such squad is Company 8, who exists to journey across the Tokyo Empire and battle criminals, cults, and other officers to uncover the truth about the Infernals... and their biggest enemy in the White-Clad and The Evangelist, who seek to restart the disaster that birthed world of Fire Force, the Great Cataclysm.

Who is the candidate? What has he/she done?

Sumire Sugita was a Japanese businesswoman around the time of the First Great Cataclysm. Hugely misanthropic, when The Evangelist offered its version of salvation — death through massive fire — as a pitch to Sumire, she became the god's loyal server for the next 250 years. In the interim, Sumire has been conducting experiments to find or create the next Eight Pillars meant for the Second Great Cataclysm, to finish what the last one started.

Sumire strays to the shadows, supporting the more visible members of the White-Clad whenever she can through her earthquake Ignition ability. In the meantime, she poses as kindly nun with a grandmotherly visage, taking care of a little orphan children. The story knows her best as a sister of the Holy Sol Temple, the main religion of the Tokyo Empire, working at St. Raffles Convent. Two young girls, Hibana and Iris of Company 8, were raised there. Unbeknownst to any of the poor girls, Sumire used them for her pryokinetic experiments by feeding the children special fire bugs mixed with vegetables. The result? The convent was burned down because every child besides Hibana and Iris explosively transformed into Infernals.

She's outed when Hibana and a squad from Company 8 find information in the basement of the desolated convent, where Sumire appears to calmly corroborate their findings. Since then, she remains at the side of the White-Clad trying to bring together all Eight Pillars, the foundations meant to help start the Great Cataclysm. She herself is one... and so is Iris, meaning all her heinous experiments ultimately succeeded. She is last seen being absorbed by The Evangelist to use powers in the final battle.

Freudian Excuse? Redeeming or Mitigating Factors?

Nah. She represents the Pillar of "Disgust" as a representation of her misanthropy, but it's never played as anything sympathetic. It's alien, it's abhorrent, especially with how dissonantly okay she is with the world becoming a second Sun.

Heinousness?

Ohkubo honestly outdid himself with Fire Force compared to Soul Eater. Much more murder, human experimentation, death tolls, etc. than before. So, how does Sumire stand out? Human experimentation for 250 years. It's what Rekka did ratcheted up to eleven without the flourishes of serial-killing to silence those sniffing around his business. Sumire's personal touches on the matter include doing so on an entire convent of little girls while also indirectly causing the place to explode because it turned all of them except Hibana and Iris into Infernals... which is also fucked up since that's a state And I Must Scream, and Sumire with a cold smile shows Hibana her suffering sisters when she discovers the truth at the basement. Easy pass.

Conclusion?

Yep. Been meaning to bring her up; was just waiting for time to pass.

Happy late American Thanksgiving btw, folks.

Edited by erazor0707 on Nov 26th 2021 at 11:18:03 AM

Yes to Sugita. Writeup time;

• Ogrodowa ("Garden"): Mirosław Pielecki and Sebastian Kubczak are two violent thugs who terrorize the local homeless population. They use them to steal for them and bring them money or other things that benefit the duo. If any of the homeless fails them in any way, Mirosław and Sebastian would brutally murder them and drown them in the pond close-by. When one of the homeless refuses to cooperate, they savagely beat her and would kill her if it wasn't for the witnesses interference. When exposed and arrested, they threaten the homeless man who exposed them they will get him.

Edited by emperors on Nov 26th 2021 at 12:24:40 PM

to Sugita

Sugita seems like a yes. I assume the other two are still keepers?

What about the Evangelist himself/themself?

For Buli and Guli, which one's the fat one and which one's the skinny one?

Sugita

Today's the fourth year anniversary I've been on this thread. Ever since my first (true) EP for Tarantula Claw, I have been a recurring proposer since. I hope to have brought some fun on here with my proposals, and have made tons of discoveries and new friends along the way.

Alright, cheesy opening over, time for a proposal to celebrate.

What Is the Work?

Batman: Book of the Dead is an Elseworlds miniseries written in 1999 by Doug Moench.

Here, Thomas and Martha Wayne were archeologists, who have discovered an Egyptian cartouche with a bat on it. Bruce Wayne, after his parents were killed by an assassin involved in a conspiracy, finds out that he has ties to a forgotten Egyptian god named Nekhrun, whose symbol was that of a bat.

Plot happens afterwards. Yeah, it’s a fairly boring story containing tons of babble about Egyptian and Mayan knowledge, and a story that ultimately involves the prophecy about the world ending in 2012 (lol) and people trying to stop Bruce and his love interest from releasing the knowledge of Osiris to the public. All of this is interspersed with flashbacks set 14,000 years ago, as we follow Osiris and his attempt to pass on his knowledge to humans before he and his fellow gods have to leave the Earth before nature destroys most of them, and Nekhrun, who does what he can to help Osiris.

But one figure is out to stop him.

Who Is He?

Set, the god of darkness, is the primary villain of the flashbacks.

What has he done?

Valuing humans as nothing more than slaves who don’t deserve to be free will or intelligence, Set plans to have Osiris killed before he can grant humans with the absolute knowledge of the gods, with sights to rule the world by shrouding it in darkness and keeping all of mankind enslaved. Once he’s through with Osiris, Set hopes to take his bride Isis as his own personal trophy.

During a meeting with some of his underlings, Set has one of them, Taueret, killed by his pet beast for speaking out against his plans. This horrifies everybody in the room, all except Set of course, who instigates his plan to sabotage Osiris’s mission, but not before using his eye lasers to kill a guy for attempting to steal his bat cartouche.

Encountering Osiris, Set uses his laser vision to chop off his arms and head (don’t worry, he gets better), and takes the light rod that contains the gods’ knowledge. Nekhrun attacks him for being a traitor, with Set wasting no time in trying to kill him. As he’s about to kill Nekhrun, Nekhrun reveals that he too has laser vision, and uses it to completely eviscerate Set’s head.

Redeeming Qualities?

Set feels that humans only deserve the gods’ knowledge if they truly earned it, but given that he’s such a tyrannical asshole who mainly sees humans as beneath him, his excuse comes across as selfish. Hell, he thinks that just giving them the gifts of language and agriculture was enough.

Also Set reacts when his pet is killed by Nekhrun ("My pet!"), but as Nekhrun says afterwards, Set’s pet was only “bred for chaos”, and thus he doesn’t have a genuine relationship with it. Set doesn’t even bring up his pet afterwards, and only wants to kill Nekhrun because he’s trying to stop him.

Heinousness?

This is an Elseworlds story, so it’s in its own continuity. While Set doesn’t get to do too much, what he plans to do (rule over the world, prevent humans from obtaining godly knowledge in order to keep them as slaves, and force Isis to be his bride) are bad enough, and actions like killing one of his underlings and his selfish disdain for humans also help establish him as the worst in the story.

Hell, the book literally states that he’s the Egyptian counterpart to Satan.

And nobody else in the comic comes close. There are no other evil gods beyond Set, and the human antagonists are so one note and pathetic, they're not even worth mentioning by name.

Conclusion

I think he’s a keep. Not the easiest keep, but I think he does just enough in his relatively short screen time to pass.

Edited by therealjackieboy on Nov 26th 2021 at 9:49:55 AM

Yes to both above! I do have a couple possibly planned from Fire Force myself next....one I'm waiting on

to Mirosław Pielecki, Sebastian Kubczak, Sumire Sugita, and Set.

to Miroslaw Poprawa.

I mean, I GUESS Set does enough to exceed the baseline, but only barely.

Yes to Sugita and Set.

Sure to Surgita and Set.

for Satan, Ironsmoke, Ornell, Pielecki and Kubczak, Sugita, and Set.

for Cad, the Shredder, and Poprowa.

Sugita, Set, & the 2 Polish guys

Shredder & Proprowa

Edited by nwotyzal on Nov 26th 2021 at 10:20:08 AM

Sugiya and Set

Sumire and another Set.

Set

Sumire Sugita. Is she the one woman that appears in her live action self on those trippy memetic pages, right?

Set.

Yes.

to Set and Sumire Sugita Aka Rekka’s Distaff Counterpart

Edited by G-Editor on Nov 26th 2021 at 9:06:28 AM

Sumire and Set

Yes to Set and Sumire.

Edited by Scraggle on Nov 26th 2021 at 12:30:51 PM

to Set

Sugita and Set.

So, Who Took the Super out of Superman?:

Said true force is the candidate.

Who is Xviar and what has he done?

First off, there is an organization called Homeworld, which has been hired by Galactic Spaceways Company to destroy Earth so as a teleportation route can be built through the solar system.

Xviar is an agent of an organization called Homeworld and, has been living on Earth for three decades, arriving the same day that Kal-El's rocket lands. When he moves to Metropolis, Xviar, as Mr. Xavier, had already been living there for many years. And in fact becomes Clark's next-door-neigbor.

His scheme involves, to quote This Very Wiki: "Xviar gaslights Superman into believing he's undergoing a psychotic break by chemically treating his Clark Kent suits so that they block off his powers. His trick convinces Superman that he needs to forfeit one of his dual identities, so he spends extended lengths of time out of his apartment, trying to find himself, as Xviar sets a trap to turn him into a ticking bomb. Xviar's scheme falls apart when Clark Kent is called as a witness in court. Being in a hurry, Superman picks a spare suit he keeps in his office, which hadn't been touched by Xviar, and finds out he still has powers as Clark Kent."

Basically, Xviar, when Clark is out of his apartment, uses energy crystals to summon 9 of Superman's greatest enemies and psychically tell Superman where they are. The ultimate plan is for Superman's powers to build up, and eventually a Super-Power Meltdown will trigger an Earth-Shattering Kaboom. However, when he realizes he still has powers as Clark Kent, Superman uses his x-ray vision, discovers the trap, and uses a shielded Clark Kent suit to foil the scheme. Xviar's in space jail, and Xviar's superiors know Superman will eventually come for them.

Heinousness?

I mean, he tries—and comes damn close—to blowing up Earth. I'd say that's pretty bad. I mean, sure, Alexei Luthor is more omnicidal, and Black Zero attempted to blow up Earth AND had blown up Krypton, but Rat'lar seems just as bad. And let's consider resources and tier: Luthor's a Diabolical Mastermind with numerous appearances; Rat'lar's an emperor. The only question is if Black Zero is too heinous for Xviar to count, but considering Xviar's basically a nobody, and considering the fact that I'm pretty sure trying to destroy Earth isn't terribly common, I think we're good here. Especially because Xviar, as far as we know, had no need to destroy other planets. We're still talking about a potential body count of billions.

Though, dang, I wonder if Karmang may be worth looking into…That said, even Karmang's a sorcerer and scientist.

If nothing else, the petty motivation of Xviar and his superiors (a travel route through the solar system) is notable.

Other Mitigating Factors?

Xviar does have bosses, who do speak on page (even if we never see their faces), but Xviar is at the very least The Heavy, and he does smile evilly a few times, so there's no indication he's just a Punch-Clock Villain. Even if the plan wasn't his, he's still the one who implements it.

Conclusion?

First Superman keeper for me I hope. And thanks again Mir.

Xvier