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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:49:19 PM
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Or Problematic Definition to cover other issues.
Macron's notes
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Eh, that's not what I associate the word "problematic" with. I think mayor's take is better.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I like the "Unclear Definition" idea since that sounds like more of a reason to take something to TRS than unclear descriptions.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 16th 2023 at 1:13:53 PM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
I also like Unclear Definition. Trope scope issues are very common and they have everything to do with a trope is defined. You can also have scope issues without there being a misuse issue, because the lack of a clear definition makes it hard/near impossible to judge whether or not an example even is misuse.
Edited by amathieu13 on Apr 17th 2023 at 6:05:56 AM
Just stoic wisdom.
Fewest remaining: The Woman Wearing The Queenly Mask (440), Authority Grants Asskicking (366), Better Than Canon (342), Dream Team (300), House Rules (153)
Vehicle-Based Characterization | Grief-Induced Split | Locker Mail For Dream Team, there's still a few I need some help for. My latest ask in that thread is still unanswered.
lmao
Sex Signals Death has a TRS banner that links to the locked thread for Death By Sex. That can be removed, right?
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Alright, thanks. I just removed it.
Edited by BlackFaithStar on Apr 17th 2023 at 10:48:21 PM
Pantheon Wick Cleaning
Officially intimidated
Since the thread has been morgued, yes.
Edited by MyFinalEdits on Apr 17th 2023 at 10:45:41 AM
135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Responded.
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I think I'll take Trope Namers to the TRS eventually because it shouldn't be categorized as Trivia because it's not work/production related trivia. That doesn't require a wick check so all I need is to write an OP.
Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 18th 2023 at 9:04:14 AM
Macron's notes
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
I didn't even know it was in Trivia. ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/thumbs_up_emote.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I agree with removing it from Trivia, and I agree that it doesn't need a wick check. We already did removed the [whatever] Source pages from Trivia for similar reasons.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 18th 2023 at 8:37:14 AM
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass. I was aware it was Trivia for that very reason. And I agree, it's been bothering me for a while now.
Unlike the Source pages, I don't think we'll need to cut every wick.
I'd like to apologize for all this.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
~Berrenta The They Do thread is basically done, so paging you in case you want to launch the next thread yourself.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
That thread's closed, so I'll wait for Berrenta to respond to your page.
How sweet it is
I was okay if someone else launched it, but since I'm free, I took care of it. Thanks for the ping!
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I've been wick checking Narm Charm but I'm unsure if the categories I gave it are ok. Do they look ok?
She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Professional Wick Checker
"Dandy's bizarre behavior and Finn Wittrock's over-the-top performance are almost always darkly hilarious, but that doesn't make him any less horrifying, or any less of a joy to watch. works because of the cheesiness"
I'd classify it as "can't be taken seriously but is still entertaining/still works."
the Retromancer
Don't forget to sort categories into folders. Also this question would be best here.
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
I have a question.
I found Clarke's Law for Girls' Toys today through Tropes Needing Examples. There are 0 on-page examples, and of the 33 wicks (excluding Main) there are just 5 actual examples.
Would that count for Not Thriving, or do the 33 wicks count? And is the definition sound, or is it just complaining?
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the Retromancer
Trope's health is counted by wicks, not on-page examples. It's still not okay and consider crosswicking if possible.
Conceptually it sounds okay to me. Unsure on definition but it's not a TRS issue.
Edited by Amonimus on Apr 20th 2023 at 1:25:34 PM
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Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Got it. I'll leave it be for now, TRS-wise—if I get a chance I'll see what I can do with crosswicking.
Just stoic wisdom.
Happy troped funny number day, have some wick count updates:
Fewest wicks: Authority Grants Asskicking (366), Better Than Canon (325), Dream Team (283), The Woman Wearing The Queenly Mask (166), House Rules (153)
En route to closing some of these, there are questions that await responses for House Rules and Dream Team. If anyone can chime in, that'd help move 'em along!
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I have an idea. How about renaming "Unclear Description" to "Unclear Definition"? That's pretty much what it's used for most of the time.
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