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  • Make sure that the example makes sense to both people who don't know the work AND don't know the trope.
    • Wrong: The Mentor: Kevin is this to Bob in the first episode.
    • Right: The Mentor: Kevin takes Bob under his wing in the first episode and teaches him the ropes of being a were-chinchilla.
  • Never just put the trope title and leave it at that.
    • Wrong: Badass Adorable
    • Right: Badass Adorable: Xavier, the group's cute little mascot, defeats three raging elephants with both hands tied behind his back using only an uncooked spaghetti noodle.
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    • Wrong: Big Bad: Of the first season.
    • Right: Big Bad: The heroes have to defeat the Mushroom Man lest the entirety of Candy Land's caramel supply be turned into fungus.
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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#21151: Jul 17th 2022 at 8:32:54 PM

When there are more than 3 [up]'s I recommend just using "re: post about..." instead or something similar, because nobody counts posts that far.

Edited by Amonimus on Jul 17th 2022 at 6:33:23 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#21152: Jul 17th 2022 at 8:33:36 PM

Once you get past three it's really better to just link the post directly.

e: lmao ninja'd

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Jul 17th 2022 at 11:33:51 AM

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#21153: Jul 17th 2022 at 8:34:16 PM

[up][up]Yeah, I'll do that next time if there are too many [up]s.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jul 17th 2022 at 8:34:42 AM

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#21154: Jul 18th 2022 at 2:19:05 AM

Can Idiot Plot count if the characters act unintelligent only during the last part of the storyline in question?

BeerBaron from Pennsylvania Since: Mar, 2012
#21155: Jul 18th 2022 at 4:56:58 AM

^^ Thanks Random Troper 123, added back and cited that page of the thread in the edit reason.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#21157: Jul 18th 2022 at 5:36:15 AM

When you said my post was fine, did you mean the example is, or my objection to it?

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Afterword Moon Queen and Wanderer from At the end of all things Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Moon Queen and Wanderer
#21158: Jul 18th 2022 at 5:41:03 AM

[up][up][up][up]

If it's temporary, it might be more of a case of Idiot Ball

A smile better suits a hero
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#21159: Jul 18th 2022 at 9:01:48 AM

[up][up]I meant the example. Sorry I wasn't clear.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#21160: Jul 18th 2022 at 9:26:19 AM

From YMMV.Sonic Frontiers

  • Fridge Logic: It's mentioned in interviews with the developers that combat will not be necessary to finish the game. But how would that work? You'd need to beat the bosses to obtain Portal Gears (which are needed to unlock Cyberspace stages where the keys to the Chaos Emeralds are), and how would you beat the bosses without engaging in combat?
That's literally just a question to the pre-release material. Should it be at WMG?

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#21161: Jul 18th 2022 at 11:03:18 AM

Not WMG, it's not proposing an answer, so just cut it as it'll likely be answered by the game.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
BigBadShadow25 Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan from Basement at the Alamo (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Owl House / Infinity Train / Inside Job Fan
#21162: Jul 19th 2022 at 4:58:04 AM

Would VideoGame.Stray (where you play a cat in a city of robots) count as Xenofiction?

The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.
Libraryseraph Showtime! from Canada (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: Raising My Lily Rank With You
Showtime!
#21163: Jul 19th 2022 at 6:44:49 AM

[up] I'd say so.

Any more opinions on this?

Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
GothDarkness Since: Oct, 2021 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#21164: Jul 19th 2022 at 10:45:10 AM

Would the Psycho Shower Murder Parody trope be considered a horror trope?

DanteVin The Time Has Come from Somewhere Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Singularity
#21165: Jul 19th 2022 at 5:13:46 PM

YMMV.Spy X Family has this example listed under Fanon:

  • On the "persistent misconception" side of fanon is referring to Henry Henderson as headmaster. He's not (and hasn't been) — he's a housemaster, meaning he's in charge of one of Eden's dormitories.

The example admits that it's a "persistent misconception", so shouldn't it be listed as a Common Knowledge example instead? Or is it still valid enough to be kept as-is under Fanon?

With Great Power, Comes Great Motivation
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
MrMediaGuy2 Since: Jun, 2015
#21168: Jul 19th 2022 at 9:09:11 PM

This is on Characters.Sausage Party under Sammy Bagel Jr.'s folder.

Given that the character is very clearly meant to be Jewish, I don't see what's so ambiguous about him.

laserviking42 from End-World Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#21169: Jul 19th 2022 at 10:38:30 PM

[up]Isn't the name a reference to Sammy Davis Jr, a Jewish convert?

You are right, it's not ambiguous at all. Cut.

I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#21170: Jul 19th 2022 at 10:51:19 PM

[up](x6) I guess so, though it depends on how it's used.


[up](x2) Cut.

Edited by RandomTroper123 on Jul 19th 2022 at 10:51:37 AM

nw09 Since: Apr, 2018
#21171: Jul 19th 2022 at 11:53:43 PM

YMMV.Mrs Doubtfire

  • While the judge putting restricting Daniel's visitation rights over his stunt is understandable, referring to Daniel as a social deviant just because he dressed up as an old lady seems a bit discriminatory by today's standards.
Is the pothole to Strawman Has a Point valid? It doesn't seem to be a strawman.

isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Lord of the Blue Star
#21172: Jul 20th 2022 at 4:01:39 AM

A follow up repost, I originally asked about Authority Equals Asskicking here, got a response which states it is more a world-setting concept here,

So, my question becomes is Authority Equals Asskicking, and by correlation, Asskicking Equals Authority, more a story trope over a character trope and should be on the main pages?

And thus if it is a story trope, then the times it appears on a character page without the main page having it are misuses?

Edited by isoycrazy on Jul 20th 2022 at 10:23:19 AM

laserviking42 from End-World Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#21173: Jul 20th 2022 at 9:59:16 AM

[up][up]What strawman is there in Mrs. Doubtfire? The pothole seems like some sort of agenda-ey edit anyways, so I'd say remove.


[up]I would say it is a story/worldbuilding trope more than a character trope. In order for said Authority to equal Asskicking (and vice-versa), the world/setting itself would need to accept that that is how things go.

You can't just have a character going around kicking people's asses, that would only confer authority if the society agrees that it conveys authority.

I didn't choose the troping life, the troping life chose me
xVanitas Ideal and the Real Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
Ideal and the Real
#21174: Jul 20th 2022 at 12:36:54 PM

Just wanted to check something. In RWBY there's one character, Weiss, who normally just fights with a single rapier that is essentially loaded with various magical spells. During one climactic showdown against one of the main villains, one of the other main characters gets knocked out, so Weiss picks up her weapon as well (a katana), and for a brief moment, she dual wields both her rapier and her friend's katana against one of the villains, at least until she gets knocked out as well.

This has only happened once so far. Is that still enough to warrant troping? Something like:

  • Dual Wielding: During the showdown at the portal gateway in Volume 8, after Blake gets knocked out, Weiss picks up Blake's weapon and dual wields both her Myrtenaster and Blake's Gambol Shroud against Cinder, fending her off briefly.

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#21175: Jul 20th 2022 at 12:38:31 PM

[up]You could add it to the specific episode that it happened instead of her character sheet


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