This thread is for cleaning up pages that violate the No Lewdness, No Prudishness policy.
Do not use this thread for reporting pages that need to be cut for violating The Content Policy. Report pages that appear too lewd or gushy to have on the wiki using the "Report Page" button on the sidebar, with the checkbox saying "The page may violate the Content Policy" checked. That will create a thread on the Content Violation Discussions subforum
. The thread will be opened by a mod if the report is valid, and if it's deemed necessary, the page will be cleaned according to the Content Policy. (The list of pages that were deemed problematic can be found on The Content Policy's page.)
No Lewdness:
"Lewdness" is more than just being about something sexual or potentially sexual. Here are some signs of lewd writing:
- Personal opinions on hotness. Examples should stand on their own without the introduction of YMMV material. Adding your own thoughts and feelings on an example is an opinion, same as calling an example good or bad. Don't do it. Don't try and extend your feelings to a larger group of fans either, e.g. "...and fangirls everywhere rejoiced". You're not fooling anyone.
- Overly detailed examples. The example doesn't need to be an exact sensory account of the event. Too much of that and you end up sounding like you're writing porn. When in doubt, drop a few adjectives.
- Unrelated fanservice mentions. If the hot bits aren't related to the example, they don't belong in the example.
- Pornographic writing. If you're writing porn, it should be somewhere other than the wiki. Keep it Family Friendly.
- Titillation links. Tell, don't show. We don't need screen shots to illustrate NSFW fanservice. If a reader is really curious, they can go look it up on Google. (See also Weblinks Are Not Examples.)
- Pedo gushing. We don't need to describe children sexually. This should be cut immediately. We're not interested in hosting pedophilia fantasies. Period. If a work contains children having sex, even if portrayed negatively, report it as a potential violation of The Content Policy using the "Report Page" button◊ in the sidebar.
- Talking about actors instead of characters. An actor is not the character they play. When you're writing an example about a work, refer to the character, not the actor. This applies to non-sexual references, but too often it's tropers writing about how they find certain actors hot. That doesn't fit in character examples.
- Thinking a page with a Not Safe for Work subject is license to be lewd. Even when we discuss porn, we are about just stating the facts.
- Fanfic Recs for underage sex. We will not host any recommendation for fics that have explicit sex involving people apparently or actually younger than 16. Period. We categorically do not recommend fics with sex in which at least one participant:
- This applies even if all parties are underage.
No Prudishness:
- Don't cutlist or gut pages just because they're about sexual topics. Sex exists. It's used in media a lot. You'll just need to cope with that fact. Relationships, fanservice, and sexual activity all fall into their own tropes as a result.
- Don't be a Bluenose Bowdlerizer. We're not looking to censor all sex off the wiki. If the sex and sexuality is an honest part of the work and relevant to the example, it belongs there.
- The wiki is not rated G. We aren't sanitizing the wiki for small children. Sex and sexuality are part of media and we aren't going to ignore them. This wiki is Family Friendly, not Unsupervised Small Child Friendly. This isn't an excuse to make work pages dirtier than the work itself, as the above No Lewdness section makes clear, but neither is it an excuse to make those pages cleaner than the work itself.
For further explanations, please read this thread
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jan 6th 2024 at 3:54:01 AM
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It may need a bit of clean-up, but we shouldn't remove the backstory of it being a "censored version" of a game allegedly containing child pornography, since that is the entire reason for the game's notoriety. (Also the fact that the "original version" is almost certainly an Urban Legend created by the game's maker for controversy.)
Alien Abduction Role Play might also need cleanup; the CVR concluded to "keep but clean".
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
How sweet it is
Wicks for the cut Omujo Omutsu Joshi will need to be skimmed for anything skeevy. I did find two examples on trope pages that were completely safe (for Bland-Name Product and Character Tic), so they just got the wick to the work page removed.
Infinite Ideas, Zero Good.
Yeah until someone comes up with a more objective rewrite, I think that having no League of Legends examples would be preferable to that giant one-handed wall.
Edited by greatpikminfan on Sep 23rd 2022 at 6:08:55 AM
I write stupid crap about naked people.
MaDitto
So I found this entry in Characters.Maken Ki Protagonists in Kodama Himegimi's folder:
- Hot Goddess: Let us count the ways: She's got bedroom eyes, hips to spare, a bubble butt, and she's definitely got LEGS! It's the reason her fanclub, Usui, and even her own uncle can't tear their eyes away from her scorching hot bod.
While she is portrayed as a Ms. Fanservice (the manga being an ecchi series and all), this entry feels way too lecherous and one-handed, plus it doesn't explain the "Goddess" part at all.
YAWK YAWK YAWK YAWK
i looked up art of her and her butt seems like a pretty standard anime butt. which is to say, oversized but not notably so compared to other characters. i think that was written by someone with a crush.
I'd either cut that or rewrite it to make it sound less pervy and to explain how she's a goddess.
Edited by ReynTime250 on Sep 25th 2022 at 4:41:50 PM
Kio's Adventure was just voted "keep and clean". It doesn't seem like it requires a lot of cleaning, though.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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Agreed; it has more issues with ZCEs than anything else.
[[Willy's Chocolate Experience The Unknown]
I found this example from a trivia page of The Flash (2023) where I find it unnecessary to detailed a nude scene from the tie in comic. Here's a highlighted detail that I'm talking about:
- Distanced from Current Events: DC shared a variant cover of a tie-in prequel comic, illustrated by director Andrés Muschietti himself, featuring a naked Barry Allen with Ezra Miller's likeness getting into the Flash suit, with his bare chest and butt partially visible. Following the accusations that Miller groomed minors, DC pulled it from circulation.
[[Willy's Chocolate Experience The Unknown]
Can someone please look at my post? Thank you and sorry for bumping.
“What is that? It's The Unknown!”
The bolded part isn't needed. You can just cut that.
[[Willy's Chocolate Experience The Unknown]
Ok, I will. Thank you.
Found in BigLittleBrother.Anime And Manga:
- My Dress-Up Darling: The Inui sisters. Sajuna is a second-year high schooler, yet is very short and has a loli body type that makes her look almost like an elementary school student. Her younger sister Shinju, on the other hand, is still a middle-schooler, yet she's much taller and more physically developed, to the point she's taller the already taller-than-average high schooler Marin and could feasibly pass off as Sajuna's Absurdly Youthful Mother were it not for her clothing choice.
Edit: Done.
Edited by badtothebaritone on Oct 8th 2022 at 2:20:42 PM
the Retromancer
I believe we've established multiple times that, unless it's a direct quote, using it is a ban-level inappropriate, so any rephrase would be fine.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
low-poly Shinri
Found this on The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero and Trails to Azure
- A story about four policemen in a corrupt, wealthy city and their pet wolf chasing after their loli mascot.
As Amonimus stated above, We cannot the l-word unless it’s a direct quotation. When I brought the above laconic to the Laconic Improvement Thread the loli part wasn’t changed. Any possible replacement for it.
Edited by Ayumi-chan on Oct 8th 2022 at 9:46:20 PM
She/Her | Currently cleaning Char Clone
This isn't paper
Replace it with "girl" or "young", whichever sounds better to you.
low-poly Shinri
Choose Mysterious Waif since Ke A is a young girl with mysterious powers and is quite important in the Crossbell Arc.
He/him
There have been concerns about lewd and lolicon works being on the Iyashikei page.
I’m bringing this topic here, since it doesn’t warrant its own thread
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16651606910A28082000&page=1#6
Peeks from Under Rocks
Found this on Metal Heart
- Animal Motifs: Nova is a loli that acts catlike.
It dates back to the page creation as of 2012 - thoughts on a rewrite? Or should I just cut the "L" word and comment out as ZCE?
The page does have an Elegant Gothic Lolita (ZCE) entry for another character, so it might have been meant in reference to that style, but I don't know the work.
It's a ZCE regardless. Cut it.
I wanna be a cowboy, baby
might i suggest making a loli cleanup thread?
Stan GaruKaru for clear skin
the Retromancer
What would be the purpose and which of it can't be done or was already explained here?
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Tendies Stories should be checked for the presence of fetishistic examples, which we don't want.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
To bring it back up, the League of Legends entries for Ms. Fanservice were all rather gushy, and given how the trope is supposed to work, it really shouldn't apply to that many characters.
So would it be best to just cut them all and leave an edit reason saying as much, while suggesting future editors just focus on specific appearance tropes?