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Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#11526: Aug 18th 2023 at 7:02:20 PM

I meant this part.

  • Yes, I think all the quotes I didn't mention are cuttable, even if I think your descriptions of some of them are overly harsh. And I have no opposition to finding more positive replacements, either, provided they don't go to the other extreme of "humans' worst flaw is how endearingly clumsy they are".

Yeah, sorry I strawmanned you, sorry. I still mantain what I said about the concept of being human though.

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ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#11527: Aug 19th 2023 at 4:58:46 AM

[up]x12 (#11515): School Grade Hacking rec looks good! [tup]

Edited by ShaiPa on Aug 19th 2023 at 6:59:03 AM

bpants98 Since: Aug, 2018
#11528: Aug 19th 2023 at 6:41:11 AM

OK, I think I might add it.

RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#11529: Aug 19th 2023 at 7:30:37 AM

[up]Chiming in to say I like your suggestion.


Bumping.

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#11530: Aug 19th 2023 at 7:30:54 AM

Two things I want to discuss.

  1. Bumping this post in case it was missed.
  2. The page quote for Sold His Soul for a Donut was changed unilaterally. Thoughts?

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
EarthTraveler from Undisclosed Location Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: In denial
andrewthetroper from ...mislim, iz Srbije Since: May, 2022
#11532: Aug 19th 2023 at 8:16:34 AM

[tup] new

The pessimist sees a dark tunnel, the optimist sees a light, the realist sees two lights and the engineer sees three idiots.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#11534: Aug 19th 2023 at 9:52:09 AM

[up](x4) I prefer the current for Sold His Soul for a Donut. I also like your suggestion.

Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Amateur Veteran
#11535: Aug 19th 2023 at 3:34:17 PM

I'm not a fan of the current quote on Weird West — it's kind of vague and doesn't really illustrate the trope very well. I think that either of these two from the trope's Quotes page would be a good replacement:

It seems unlikely that we'll ever understand the high strangeness which seems to affect many properties across the west and southwest states of the USA. Whatever unknown force is responsible for this activity, it seems content in showing only glimpses of its power, yet completely unwilling to offer any explanation for its actions. And perhaps, when all is said and done, we are just not supposed to know.

Rootin', tootin', toil n' shootin'
Fire burn and cowboy bootin'
Eye of newt and spicy beans,
Toe of frog and denim jeans,
Whiskey, grits, n' demon spittle
tossed into my iron griddle
With the tannin' of our hides,
Somethin' wicked this way rides
Humorous poem by Tumblr user omnybus

Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#11536: Aug 19th 2023 at 9:37:27 PM

I agree with replacing it, though both of those are fairly long, and I'm surprised at what isn't on the quotes page:

An old cowboy went riding out, one dark and windy day
Upon a ridge he rested, as he went along his way
When all at once, a mighty herd of red-eyed cows he saw -
Plowing through the ragged skies, and up the cloudy draw...
Ghost Riders in the Sky

The Revolution Will Not Be Tropeable
Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Amateur Veteran
#11537: Aug 19th 2023 at 10:14:59 PM

^I disagree that either of the two I suggested is particularly long, but I do also think that "Ghost Riders in the Sky" is also a good source for a page quote just on its own merits.

ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#11538: Aug 20th 2023 at 5:32:43 AM

Vote for Ghost Riders in the Sky quote (though I agree that the other recommended quotes were not too long)

andrewthetroper from ...mislim, iz Srbije Since: May, 2022
#11539: Aug 20th 2023 at 8:52:54 AM

[tup] Ghost Riders

The pessimist sees a dark tunnel, the optimist sees a light, the realist sees two lights and the engineer sees three idiots.
RandomTroper123 She / Her from I'll let you guess... (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
She / Her
#11540: Aug 20th 2023 at 9:27:15 AM

I don't think any of the recommended quotes are too long. Either way, the Ghost Riders in the Sky one has my vote.

ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#11541: Aug 20th 2023 at 3:11:01 PM

The current quote for Refuse to Rescue the Disliked isn't clear on either the "refuse" part or the "dislike" part.

What about either this from the Quote page:

Hol Horse: Polnareff! Don't leave me here, please!
Jean-Pierre Polnareff: Oh, shut up. Did you forget about shooting my friend, Avdol? Now why in the hell should I save you? You're on your own pal!

Or this more succinct one from Batman Begins:

"I won't kill you. But I don't have to save you."
Batman, Batman Begins

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
Theriocephalus Amateur Veteran from gimme a map and a moment and I can tell you Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Amateur Veteran
#11543: Aug 21st 2023 at 4:16:23 PM

Given that opinion seems to be essentially in consensus, I've updated the quote on Weird West.

themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#11544: Aug 22nd 2023 at 10:53:03 AM

Back in July 2021, I Am Not Spock's quote:

"It was Captain Kirk playing T J Hooker, not William Shatner the actor. You're just thinking he's taken a month off and come down to Earth and said 'I want to be a cop for a bit'."
Eddie Izzard, Unrepeatable

...was deleted by Inky 100 with the edit reason:

There's already a "Quotes" page for the trope.

IMO an invalid deletion since page quotes are common.

Later, in January 2022, Anddrix added this quote:

How many times have I told you not to call me "Urkel?!" My name is Jaleel White! Urkel was a character I played when I was a child!

My question is, since the first removal wasn't really valid (AFAIK there wasn't discussion), which quote is better/should be kept?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:53:12 PM

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badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
ShaiPa Since: Aug, 2013
#11546: Aug 22nd 2023 at 1:20:45 PM

Even though the procedure was off, I think the second quote is better.

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#11547: Aug 23rd 2023 at 10:00:00 AM

I'm not really a fan of the current quote in Monster.Call Of Duty. strikes me more as New Age Speech than complete monster.

Replace with the old one.->"This man Makarov is fighting his own war and he has no rules, no boundaries. He doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of ideals. He trades blood for money."

General Shepard on Vladimir Makarov, Modern Warfare 2]]

Edited by miraculous on Aug 23rd 2023 at 10:03:35 AM

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#11548: Aug 23rd 2023 at 10:01:48 AM

Uh, the old one you're suggesting is the quote that's still on the page

miraculous Goku Black (Apprentice)
Goku Black
#11549: Aug 23rd 2023 at 10:02:35 AM

whoops. Uh. That's weird did it get changed recently.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#11550: Aug 23rd 2023 at 10:04:18 AM

Looks like it got changed back in June


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