Fixing zero context examples

Found one ZCE in Heel–Face Brainwashing. I was about to remove the last sentence since it crosswick a trope with its own example but that makes it even more ZCE.

• This is done to Foxy Loxy at the end of Chicken Little, for extra Broken Aesop-ness.

How do I explain this and how this second trope applies? I wonder who made this so that I can pm them why can't they write their own Broken Aesop example.

Edited by Bubblepig on Sep 24th 2022 at 8:56:48 AM

“What is that? It's The Unknown!”

Since there's gonna be a new game for Valkyrie Profile, Valkyrie Elysium, I decided to take a look at the Character pages and it isn't pretty.

Folder->Lenneth Valkyrie

• A God Is You

Folder->Hrist Valkyrie

• Paint It Black

Folder->Loki

• Deceptive Disciple: To Odin. (How exactly?)

Folder->Heimdall

• BFS

, You can just comment that out.

I'm sorry. I just want to point out that Anime & Manga should be checked a little deeply. I was just cleaning something else, but I saw a lot of examples that were just the name of a character and nothing else. I hid what I could see immediatly, but there are a lot there.

Ok will do, thanks.

“What is that? It's The Unknown!”

Do you all feel this example from Characters.Bonnies Bakery is zero-context? For the record, the original isn't spoiler-tagged since the page is Administrivia.Spoilers Off. I also think it has no context.

I would say yes, but only barely. It doesn't say how the characters have them (was it seen, mentioned, etc), or what it was being used for. The spoiler only has the latter for one of them.

It has the common issue of not stating what "this" is. If it's reworded to include that part, it'll work.

All Fun And Games Until Someone Loses An Eye has no content additions since 2013 and only one valid example, cut?

The things in my dreams wish they could chase me!

yeah thats a stub. i'd cut list it

I agree with cutting it as it doesn't have enough tropes.

ComicBook.PS 238 appears to have a few Zero-Context Examples, although I don't have the time to fix it at the moment.

Myspeld Rökband has a ton of on-page ZCEs. In fact, a quick glance and that seems to be most examples.

Actually, how would context be provided here?

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I think the only real context you need for that is how the names are supposed to be spelled.

Uck, it's one of those Title Tropes again. I feel like most of them should just be indices, but this is different since so many of the bands are fictional...

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I just found this page Black Adventures which seems to just be a horrible collection of just the trope name and nothing more, just comments that the trope applies without saying how it applies, and spoilered trope names.

I have seen recently that a lot of character pages falls into this category. Where most of the examples must be hidden. Is there a rule for character pages on how many tropes should there be? Or just the normal three? As I have seen many character pages with more than three examples, but they name over 20 characters, so there is a lot of black space.

I swear, fan-made webcomics are especially prone to being ZCE-fests.

Shredded a ton in Webcomic.Antihero For Hire. Also I'm sure this one is misused (though I didn't delete it, only commented it out with the dual-percentages)

* Large Ham: Shadehawk has a definite melodramatic streak: hence the Badass Longcoat, Sunglasses at Night, and love for dramatic entrances, once even involving a dry ice machine. — I don't think that's what Large Ham means?

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Webcomic.Heroes Unite - If I comment out the on-page ZCE(s), the page would be tropeless

Webcomic.The Jupiter Palladium - Ditto

Webcomic.Irregular Elis - "Luk River loves so much his daughter Elis."... Is this salvageable?

Man... Those pages are the perfect example of fake context. They seem full, a lot of tropes and almost all of them have at least a sentence... And yet you don't know anything about the work after reading it all.

I may be radical, but I think that such pages are not salvagable. If there is no context, it is almost a there not being a page, and should be cut.

This is an edit made to the page My Hero Academia - Class 1-A:

• Child Soldier: All of Class 1-A become this after the War arc. To the point, where they are are now battle-hardened veterans. The level of adult-like maturity and seriousness that's shown on each of their faces as a result of having to cope with the trauma from that war amplifies this.

Is the edit an example of a Zero-Context Example?

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.

I don't think everything past the first sentence is relevant to the trope, the only important part if they are school students in official armed forces. I'd question if being a superhero in an effectively a counter-terrorist operation counts as being a soldier though and I forgot how are they treated.

Meaning yeah it looks a bit insufficient to me, and any use of "is this" is a sign of poor example.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 3rd 2022 at 10:15:49 PM

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In my opinion, it's at best a partial-context example, so I'd hide it.

Here's another edit from the My Hero Academia - Class 1-A page:

• https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InnocenceLost : After the Paranormal Liberation War, watching thousands of heroes, civilians and villains die, including their teacher Midnight, along with the villains escaping from jail, AND finding out that All for One was targeting Midoriya and used Aoyoma as The Mole, whatever joy or peace they had is pretty much gone. While they still are hopeful to make hero society better, the amount of trauma they've endured has forced them to mature way too fast.

This example also seems like a partial context example, since it doesn't fully explain how Class 1A changed from being innocent to who they are in the present.

Edited by PS16 on Oct 4th 2022 at 10:41:30 AM

Naïve Newcomer is an apprentice in English.

When cleaning up zero-context examples, please don't break the links to the trope names. This affects wick cleaning and wick checks, and it does not help anything.

I'd hide it, I guess.

RE: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13226024250A77804400&page=155#comment-3870

I'd say yes, since their use of superpowers is typically sanctioned for figures akin to SWAT, or the Berets.

Since they're basically high-school kids, they would probably qualify.