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So. Personal opinions on the main wiki aren't allowed, be they gushing or bashing. Now, bashing gets tolerated even less than gushing, and that makes sense; it leads to more flamewars.

But that doesn't mean we have to live with all the gushing either. This thread can serve as a center for keeping it in check. One function might be to alert people to pages that are really heavy in gushing, to the point that it's not just a quick fix and will need some assistance.

delayedboom she/her Since: Sep, 2021 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#801: Apr 8th 2022 at 9:55:45 AM

[up] I agree that it's too gushy.

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KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#802: Apr 9th 2022 at 2:52:24 AM

This is in the description for VideoGame.Painkiller:

For a while, Painkiller owned the unique distinction of being THE MOST METAL GAME EVER, finally being overtaken by Brütal Legend, which was then overtaken by Doom (2016).

This seems gushy to me, but I'm not entirely sure what this means.

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MisterApes-a-lot Since: Mar, 2018
#803: Apr 9th 2022 at 8:52:27 AM

[up] A lot of the description is very gushy and should probably be rewritten, but that especially can be taken out, partially because it doesn't really mean anything since that's not an official title/ranking.

KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#804: Apr 10th 2022 at 5:45:23 AM

[up] I tried to take out as much of the gushing (and bashing) as possible.

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#805: Apr 18th 2022 at 2:27:04 PM

In the description of The Ballad of the N-Word, does this sound kinda gushy?

...Created by the mad genius named Liam Bilsky...

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jogarz Since: Jun, 2016
#806: Apr 18th 2022 at 8:59:26 PM

[up]Sounds gushy to me. From reading the whole description on the page, I wouldn't be surprised if the creator himself wrote it.

EarthTraveler from Undisclosed Location Since: Mar, 2022 Relationship Status: In denial
#807: Apr 22nd 2022 at 7:13:59 AM

I have a couple things that might be a little on the gushy side:

First, from the Web Animation folder of Ms. Fanservice:

  • Joanna Dark from Perfect Kirby is unbearably sexy with large breasts, hot lips, shiny hair, strong legs, voluptuous arms, firm butt, beautiful eyes, great abs, soft voice, pretty much everything you could love in a woman. Although she doesn't have much screen time in the regular episodes, she does appear in the shorts more often and appears in bikinis and less clothing a lot. Even that's nothing compared to pictures on the (now defunct) website, showing her in a revealing red hot bikini. Creator Pikanjo is very good at drawing beautiful women in general, as pretty much every female in his cartoons could qualify, even the extras. Joanna is breathtakingly hot even among them.

Second, this line from the description of lonelygirl15,

The show's greatest strength is possibly the high level of Character Development it features, which is usually portrayed realistically.

Thoughts?

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#808: Apr 22nd 2022 at 7:18:31 AM

[up]Yeesh. That first one was definitely written with one hand.

The second one also has no meaning outside of the troper gushing.

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#809: Apr 22nd 2022 at 7:24:21 AM

[up][up] Yeah the first one's pretty gross. It could probably have been run by the P5 lewdness cleanup too. Agree with [up] on both fronts.

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#810: Apr 23rd 2022 at 12:06:04 AM

In Angel Densetsu's description:

It has more Trope Tropes than Tropes.

This really feels like a relic of older days where gushing about how "troperiffic" a work is in the description was more common. Can I remove this?

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
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#811: Apr 24th 2022 at 9:22:56 AM

[up] Yeah, cut that one out-of-place sentence.

Series/Extras has a paragraph that feels a little gushy:

Packed a massive array of celebrity guests into its twelve episodes, and in fact the (officially untitled) episodes have often been referred to by names such as "Kate Winslet" or "Ben Stiller". Perhaps more impressively, the show has been extremely successful in getting actors to play versions of themselves who are incredibly conceited, or vicious, or vain, or stupid, or otherwise horrible human beings.

I would change it to something like:

It had so many celebrity guests during its twelve episodes that the (officially untitled) episodes are often referred to by who was guest-starring. They were often playing versions of themselves, but a very conceited, vain or stupid way.

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#812: Apr 30th 2022 at 12:51:31 PM

Can someone more familiar with Johnny Depp reword this entry to be less... well, "gushy" is putting it lightly?

  • Doing It for the Art: Story of his life. He never just "plays a role," he looks at it from all angles and creates someone never seen before in film out out of bits and pieces of Crazy Is Cool. His buddy Burton wants to re-imagine Frankenstein? Meet that awkward wallflower from the back of the class who'd never raise his hand to anyone, let alone his voice. Want him to play Hunter S. Thompson? He'll move into the man's house and honestly become his best friend so he can do it perfectly! Soulless money-worshippers want to make a Merchandise-Driven movie based on a theme park ride - and have a sex symbol as a plain 'ol Pirate? Not a chance in hell. He'll be the first rock-star pirate and you will love it whether you like it or not!

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#813: Apr 30th 2022 at 11:31:38 PM

As is, that whole entry should be cut. There's not a single line about Depp prioritizing art over profit, and that's what that trope is about.

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#814: May 3rd 2022 at 9:37:39 PM

In Limyaael's Fantasy Rants:

  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Of a sort. When she describes how she gets frustrated at the books she reads, they're incredibly vivid metaphors. They range from the simple ("Book, meet wall") to the vivid (she's described how she'll brutally maim a book on several occasions).

This feels like the entry is gushing about her choice of words when bashing books she dislikes. Also, the "Of a sort" part makes me think that this is a "Playing With a YMMV entry", which isn't allowed (the source is textual blog posts and I can't see how Visual Effects of Awesome can fit flowery descriptions and prose).

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DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
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#815: May 4th 2022 at 5:44:31 AM

[up]Agree that it should go.

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KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#816: May 4th 2022 at 7:25:57 AM

This is the first sentence of the description for VideoGame.Tai Fu Wrath Of The Tiger. Would this be considered gushing?

Back in 1999, a somewhat less-known company known as DreamWorks Interactive would produce one of the era's unsung legends—an epic kung-fu tale of a solitary warrior named T'ai Fu.

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Reymma RJ Savoy from Edinburgh Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
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#817: May 4th 2022 at 11:58:32 AM

[up] It could be rewritten as "Back in 1999, a then little-known company called Dream Works Interactive produced a kung-fu epic of a solitary warrior named T'ai Fu."

Stories don't tell us monsters exist; we knew that already. They show us that monsters can be trademarked and milked for years.
nanakiro Since: Feb, 2011
#818: May 7th 2022 at 1:02:55 PM

From Sports Night:

While the structure of the episodes were similar, Sports Night was written with wit and intelligence, and presented a number of non-cliché plot problems for the audience to think about. Even cliché plot problems — as when Jeremy dates a porn star in a Hooker with a Heart of Gold plot — were presented with true feeling for the characters and a deft touch that never felt cloying or aged.

harryhenry It's either real or it's a dream Since: Jan, 2012
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#819: May 11th 2022 at 9:55:24 PM

[up] That can be easily cut, since it adds little to the overall description.

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#820: May 13th 2022 at 3:23:34 AM

Does this entry on YMMV.Animorphs read like a "badge of honour" to anyone else?

Anvilicious: The final arc of Animorphs makes its War Is Hell message very clear, to the point where that Aesop was the entire point of the final book. When some readers complained that the ending wasn't "cool" enough, Applegate took them to task by saying that the whole point of the books was the war isn't something to venerate or find fun—it's something that tears families apart, kills innocents, and destroys lives forever. In it, Jake had gotten PTSD from his experiences, Rachel was dead, Tobias had shut himself off from the world, and while Marco and Cassie were better off, neither were really happy. What makes this particularly effective is that K.A. Applegate deliberately didn't have a grand, glorious final battle with the Animorphs finally triumphing—Rachel's death was done with a quick blow, the Yeerks surrender and peace is declared through negotiation, and Jake's PTSD results in his choosing to kill nearly 18,000 defenseless Yeerks.

In particular, I'm struggling to think of how the part I bolded (under the spoiler tag) is relevant.

Rhino8888 Since: Mar, 2020
#821: May 15th 2022 at 1:39:54 PM

This is the image caption for Bambi II:

  • “A DTV Disney sequel that is actually pretty good? What madness is this?!”
Not only does this sound pretty opinionated and smug, it’s also misleading, as it’s not like this is the only well-liked DTV Disney sequel out there, and looking at the YMMV page, this movie seems more of a Contested Sequel anyways.

Rhino8888 Since: Mar, 2020
#823: May 15th 2022 at 2:03:01 PM

Do I just replace it with the tagline in the poster? Or something else?

Edit: I’ll just put the tagline

Edited by Rhino8888 on May 15th 2022 at 11:23:55 AM

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#824: May 15th 2022 at 4:14:27 PM

The tagline's kinda redundant cuz it's on the poster right above it. It can honestly go captionless.

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#825: May 15th 2022 at 11:36:39 PM

Found this odd bit of gushing that I bolded in Fanfic.My Brave Pony Starfleet Magic:

This sentence didn't age well.

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