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  • UltimaThule: Angry Joe's "Transformers 2 Review: Joe & Fans vs. The Critics". It's not just that he misses the point on a lot of criticisms he points out. It's not just that when he says that Michael Bay was "trying to please everybody," he fails to acknowledge what trying to please everyone usually results in. It's not just that he outright insults everyone who didn't enjoy Revenge of the Fallen, making us look like humorless snobs (I for one can, in fact, enjoy mindless thrill movies but I just didn't like RotF; though I don't go so far as to call people idiots for liking it). Joe forgets that Opinion Myopia goes both ways; in insulting people who are blind to others' opinions, he only makes himself look bad, and he automatically assumes that the viewers completely agree with him. Add to that the fact that he plays the flimsy "If you didn't like this movie you're a sissy!" card throughout, displaying an overly macho attitude that detracts from his credibility. I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that only "real men" are capable of enjoying anything. Our star producer, ladies and gentlemen: a hypocritical Jerkass with a messiah complex.
  • DudeL: Angry Joe's "Top 32 Reasons Why Fable III Sucks!". Oh God... I know Fable III deserves its your mileage may vary status and it would have been okay if he just did a rational, fact-based negative review with some humorous anger. But no, he had to go on a twenty-five minutes rant where he makes the game sound like the nadir of all that ever was. While he does point out some legitimate flaws like the game's short length and the fact that you need the exact same DLC as someone to play co-op with them, most of the flaws he complains about are small, subjective, or simply things he didn't look into more. He complains about the loading screens between areas (not every studio has the tech to reduce the amount of loading, and the loading screens aren't even that long), he calls melee combat pointless because enemies block your attacks (they don't block 100% of the time and he forgets you can charge up your attack for an unblockable one), he says that the co-op is flawed because, while it's up to par with what Fable 2 deserved, it isn't up to par with what Fable 3 deserves, he doesn't like the expression system because he would prefer to have an actual conversation with the npcs (not every game needs Dialogue Trees, Joe) and because he thinks the fart and dance expressions are silly (it's a humorous game, Joe! Do you not get that those silly expressions are supposed to be silly?), he doesn't like the customization options because he thinks they are limited i.e. he can't get the exact style of facial hair he wants, and Jesus Christ it goes on.
  • DevNameless: For me, the biggest issue I ever had with Joe was his reaction to Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 and especially the roster. While it seems Harsher in Hindsight now that the game is pretty well established to be pretty solid, I don't particularly agree with the insistence that the new characters (especially the ones on the Marvel side) are characters who shouldn't have been included since nobody asked, since not only are oddball picks a good way to interest people in characters they may not have known about, the series has made a lot of choices that wouldn't be considered mainliners in the past (Such as Shuma-Gorath, who is both my favorite MvC character and my favorite villain in Marvel). The hate against Rocket Raccoon is especially notable since this the portrayal of Rocket in the game was absolutely glorious and got me interested in the character long before Guardians of The Galaxy hit the MCU. I can excuse the "Don't buy this game. Force Capcom to release these characters as DLC" thing, because jokes about Capcom business practices were pretty in vogue at the time of release, and the new features to really make the game differ from the vanilla game like Heroes and Heralds hadn't recieved as much focus pre-release, but the critique of the roster just felt unwarranted and spiteful.
  • Awesomekid42: For the most part, I really enjoyed Joe's review of the Godzilla video game for PS4. But there was a part of the review that rubbed me the wrong way. During one of his criticisms about the online modes, he shown a battle between him and another player, apparently named David, with David having way higher stats, and dominating Joe in the fight to show how unbalanced the online battles could be. Fair enough. But throughout the battle, Joe was frequently saying sarcastic compliments and condescending remarks about his opponent, as if he was humoring a try-hard despite not even knowing him. It was needlessly harsh, and made Joe look like a dick.
  • Catmuto: Angry Joe is a hit-and-miss for me, overall. Some of his complaints about things I can agree with, others I find he's overreacting about things. But the point when he went way over the line and lost me, was in his Top 10 Worst Games of 2010 list and he put Final Fantasy XIII at 2nd place. Now, if he doesn't like XIII that is fine with me, everyone has their opinion. But his opinion is beyond what I would call justified Angry-Joe-Behavior. He says he doesn't play RPGs much, he never played a Final Fantasy game before and never will because one game is definitely showing that all the previous games, and any coming ones from the series will suck major balls.
    He even admits that he didn't finish the game, which is a huge pet peeve of mine. If you don't like a game, fine, I don't like my share of (generally well-liked) games myself. But you do not have the right to say the entire game is shit, when you haven't played the entire game. I can even understand XIII being a very derisive game to begin the Final Fantasy games with, it definitely has flaws. But what Angry Joe did was basically whine over how the game apparently wasn't action-y enough for him and took too long to start - it's called an RPG, Angry Joe, they tend to take their time to build up the world, characters and stories, so you know what you're getting into. That was one of the last nails I needed to stop watching Angry Joe entirely; that was way over the line for me, pal.
  • Raygunguy: In my opinon, the Halo: ODST review was Angry Joe's Dethroning Moment. The first half of it is repeating the one complaint (it's too short for the price) over and over again. In fact, he admits that it's his ONLY problem with the game. Then, he tries to demonize Microsoft for not giving him a pre-release copy (despite having no reason to) and portrays them (via a strawman) trying to force him to give the game a positive review.
    What really sinks this though is the several extended sequences bashing reviews for liking the game despite him saying the price was the only problem. He treats his opinion like religious dogma and belittles people for not agreeing with him. This is not helped by the fact he goes straight into Fan Hater territory by more or less accusing the positive reviewers of being sell-outs.
  • Dr Zulu 2010: Angry Joe can be hit or miss for me. But his rant about Nintendo getting ad revenue being outrageous is a huge miss for me. As someone else said about it above, Nintendo is in their own right to get a percentage in money for their own games and copyrights. Is it a bad business decision? Surely. But it's legally in their rights to do those things. And Angry Joe's response just makes him as greedy by removing his Mario Party 10 stream. It's not like you lose all your money; they take a bit of money of it. Also, haven't you heard about Nintendo's partner system? Before you open your mouth, learn to do the research.
    • Just Here To Comment: I agree wholeheartedly. Removing the video was an extreme overreaction to the fact that Nintendo will make money from the ad revenue. Regardless of whether Nintendo does make money from the ad revenue, he will still make money with all the people who watch his videos and who watch his past videos. It's very unlikely he will lose a large sum of money from having one video where the money is split. Also, the fact that him saying it's his last Nintendo video is not much of a threat since he has very rarely done any Nintendo videos in the past.
  • Vexer: For me, it was Joe's review of Resident Evil: the Final Chapter, now I'm fine with him disliking a film that I personally enjoyed, what I'm NOT OK with is Joe saying that anyone who likes the film has "horrible taste", that's a really stupid thing to say that makes him come off as very immature and intolerant of other people's opinion (at least when it comes to movies). I've noticed it's something of a habit with him lately, as he also did something similar in his Ghostbusters review (for both the game and the film), but this time it was especially glaring, hopefully Joe does not pull that crap again.
  • Who Needs A Mango: I used to be a huge fan of Angry Joe, but I've been alienated by his general reviewing attitude lately and this came to a head in his review of Mass Effect: Andromeda; if you can call it a review, it's so casual and skewed (other than Delrith trying to point out facts about the game for them to be quickly dismissed). It starts with an obnoxiously long gag, said gag being a joke that got old before the game even came out. Next comes Joe's overly harsh view on the game, making it clear he's not going to give it a chance due to his Nostalgia Filter - by claiming that Pathfinder Ryder can't hope to be 1/4 of the man or woman Commander Shepard was, despite both of them having staggering accomplishments that render such mean-spirited comparisons baffling. Or his example of "childish delivery" being one of Liam's lines - you know, the most divisive character in the game, just applied to the entire thing for some reason. Then he moved on to make Blatant Lies, like stating that Ryder can never take things seriously (shown to be entirely untrue in the first level of the game and onwards), despite the fact that if a player chooses too many casual options, they will be called out on it. And lastly, his accusation of "Fallout 4 Syndrome", essentially stating that different conversation options or plot choices all amount to the same thing - and, big surprise, his chosen example was cherry-picked and heavily skewed in his favor. This travesty of a review made me not want to touch any of his material ever again.
  • Butter: "Angry Review: Risen (The Worst RPG on Xbox 360?)". What do you get when a Caustic Critic meets a Cult Classic? Not a good review apparently. Large parts of the video are dominated by Joe's strange decision to review the Xbox 360 port of a PC game. Joe spends large parts of the video complaining about graphics, interface and performance issue that do not exist in the PC version. While it's perfectly acceptable to criticise a port, it's still a bad decision to review a port without having played the original. What makes it worse is that Joe doesn't aknowledge that the version he played is a port at all in the review with the review's title even implying that he thinks the game is a Xbox 360 exclusive. As a result, watching the video is a bizarre experience, like watching someone play the Atari 2600 port of Pac-Man convinced it's the original release. He also calls the story boring and the characters unmemorable without ever explaining why he thinks so, brings up two quests that are completely unrelated to his criticisms just to do unfunny sketches based on them and complains about having to save often and about the game not having quest markers.
  • JHD 0919: Honestly, after contemplating about this for months after the review in question was released, I've finally come to a decision regarding my thoughts on this matter. As much as I hate to say it, I really don't think Angry Joe has lived up to his name more than in his Madden 22 review...and that's not a good thing. This was the video that made me realize that the Angry Joe character is no longer a character, but has now become the actual Joe himself. Now, to be fair, his criticisms of the game itself are perfectly fine - in fact, I agree with him on that front. The problem is in how he delivers these criticisms. To say that he was a maliciously evil dick throughout the video would be an understatement - every time he raised his voice I genuinely feared he would reach his arms through my computer screen and choke me to death if I so much as thought about voicing even the tiniest defense of the game. Speaking of which, his overall attitude towards people who unironically like the game (and yes, Joe, they do exist, believe it or not) was beyond disgusting. Yes, the vast majority of people hate modern-day Madden, yes, I do agree that the NFL needs to drop EA, and yes, I find it baffling as to how the games still sell year after year...but the thing is, there's a legitimately valid reason as to why they still sell, and that's because there are people out there who legitimately enjoy playing Madden and want to see more from EA year after year. I may not agree with their reasons, but their reasons are valid, and you, Joe, just proceed to completely ignore them because 90% of sports gamers hate EA and their scummy business practices.note  The only good thing I can say about this emotionally driven mess is that Joe did not use the R word to refer to people who like modern-day Madden, but if you ask me, he might as well have, because it would have been the cherry on top of a maliciously evil, emotionally-charged, insanely bloated "review" that ultimately made me lose faith in what was once one of my favorite YouTube channels.
  • Darksteel: For me it's Joe's unbelievably unprofessional and incredibly half-assed and lazy review of The Last of Us Part II, I was already skeptical and wary about how Joe was going to cover the game after he'd done a really bad video talking about so-called "spoilers" from the game "leaked" on 4-Chan (which unsurprisingly turned out to be fake)and after he'd already reported on the leaks on the game's plot and did an entire video whining about what happened to Joel which made it clear he was already going into the game with a negative attitude and unfortunately I was proven right as the review is full of stupid and annoying whiny and angsty rants that reek of Critical Research Failure (Joe ended up missing plot points due to his baffling decision to stream the game for his first playthrough and he actually talked over cutscenes several times)and seemingly refusing to give the game a chance and completely missing the point of the game, that combined with his painfully unfunny attempts at humor(I.E. asking if the game "hated men" or some stupid shit like that)results in the single worst Angry Review he's ever done and made me lose a considerable amount of respect for him as a result. Then it was made even worse by him putting the game at #2 on his worst games of 2020 list despite it getting a higher score then several FAR worse games on that list(putting it at #1 on the dissapointing list would've made WAY more sense), this is the first time where I got the feeling he did a video more for clickbait then anything else and that he wasn't being totally honest with himself, the video as a whole feels like nothing more then lame cheap pandering to the same group of idiot trolls that review-bombed the game on Metacritic.
    • emilethetemplar: Can't say I'm surprised to read this. I stopped watching Joe a long time ago but remember stumbling upon a clip of him screaming like a child about the game and claiming that people who didn't understood the backlash were slow. Well, I sure regret how slow I was to realize that Channel Awesome leftover had the emotional maturity of a spoiled brat.
  • ani12: I know the game is divisive, though I want to try it out for myself once I get a PS5, but Joe's review of 'Forspoken' has insulting portrayals of one of the game's writers, having one being acted out at several points in the video as if they have some sort of mental problem, and eating crayons. I don't care what you think of the game, acting this petty and unprofessional about it is more than out of line.
  • hittheassassin: For me, it's not his Angry Reviews but rather his attitude during this year's game events in 2023. One example that a lot of people have called him out for is his reaction to Marvel's Spider-Man 2 not having co-op, where he says that it killed a lot of his enthusiasm for the game, and it shows during the 2023 PlayStation Showcase where he does nothing but complain while ignoring the actual gameplay for what it is. A more personal and even more recent gripe for me is Joe's reaction to the new Persona games announced during the Xbox Showcase. He mutes both trailers not because of copyright reasons but because he hates the music. I don't expect him to be enthusiastic about either game since he makes it clear that Persona isn't his cup of tea, but can he at least be a better sport about it and not be so petty as to mute the video?

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