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It was agreed that Monster.Live Action TV sub-page could use some re-writes and changes (better context, Example Indentation). So far, we've got Highlander and Star Trek TNG. Link for reference. And thank you!

• The TV series of Highlander had quite a few evil immortals.
  • Early villain Felicia Martins appears at first to be a Damsel in Distress, a young Immortal on run from the run from the brutal, obsessed Claude Deveraux. It is revealed that Martins is far older than she claims and Deveraux is hunting her because Martins murdered his wife and their adopted baby daughter. This is her MO: she ingratiates herself into the lives of her victims and murders everything they love, making it so they're off their game and she can easily take their heads. She attempts to murder hero Duncan Macleod's loved ones after she takes Deveraux's head and is last seen vowing to return and murder who Duncan loves after he spares her.
  • Kalas, the Big Bad of the third season is an ancient Immortal who was previously a monk who helped his teacher run a sanctuary on holy ground for Immortals. Kalas, however, used the sanctuary to murder Immortals by ambushing them as they left. After Macleod exposed him and his teacher banished him forever, Kalas vowed revenge. He later attempted to murder a young singer after only suspecting Macleod was involved with her in the 1920s, and when he returned in the 90s, he systematically laid out a web to destroy everyone close to Macleod after murdering his old teacher, Brother Paul. Kalas shows no hesitation in torturing and murdering innocent people, destroying the live of anyone remotely associated with Macleod. At the end, he is willing to reveal the secrets of Immortals at large to world and throw everything into chaos if Macleod doesn't offer his head.
  • Kern of the episode "Line of Fire" is described by his watcher as an 'animal' who rapes, kills and steals as he will. Kern in the past was a scout for American forces who loves killing Native Americans. He earned Macleod's enmity when he helped slaughter the Sioux village Macleod was living with and presented Duncan with the scalps he had taken. Kern has no remorse in taking an innocent young woman and baby hostage to gain and advantage and happily describes the crimes he has committed over the centuries when confronted.
  • Ernst Daimler is the only Immortal seen who's a former Nazi. A firm believer in fascism, Daimler sought to help 'purge' all lower races in World War 2 and ordered the slaughter of hundreds of innocent people, as well as wounded prisoners, until he was stopped by a young boy who stabbed him in the back. Thinking he was dead, the boy and his cousin wrapped Daimler in chains and threw him into the Seine where he remained for decades. In the present, Daimler leads a white supremacist movement and finds the little boy who stabbed him, now a kindly old priest. Daimler gleefully guns him down after terrifying him off holy ground, and then attempts to murder a pregnant woman who tried to stop him before Macleod intervenes and takes Daimler's head.
  • Kronos, an Immortal whose legacy of death dates to the Bronze Age. Kronos was the leader of the Four Horsemen a band of Immortals who led armies to Rape, Pillage, and Burn across continents. Kronos was the most sadistic of all of them, slaughtering the innocent and raping who he desired, including a slave girl for no other reason than his sworn brother Methos had taken a liking to her. In the present, Kronos recruits Methos, now The Atoner, back into a scheme to reunite the Horsemen and create a plague to destroy all of humanity, viewing himself as the end of time itself.

• Star Trek: The Next Generation:
  • Data's brother Lore is a thoroughly unsympathetic android who kills his creator, reprograms his brother to follow his every command, and threatens to set teenage Wesley on fire. He summoned the Crystalline Entity to his creator's colony when the other colonists petitioned Noong to deactivate him out of fear that he would turn on them, and since then, he's been on quest to wipe out all organic life from the universe. If he ever shows affection, it's just to manipulate Data into collaborating. He also tried to make the Borg an even greater threat to The Federation than they already were. Given everything else we saw of his true nature, it's obvious that he mostly did it for his own sick amusement.
  • Kivas Fajo, the villain from "The Most Toys". A Collector of the Strange who wants to add Data, the only known android in the galaxy, to his collection. To do this, he poisons the water supply of an inhabited planet so he can capture him. He treats people and sentient beings like property. Then he talks very matter-of-factly about how he'd like to try out a particularly cruel Death Ray called a Varon-T Disruptor — illegal in The Federation because of how slowly and painfully it destroys the body from the inside out. He later does use it on his girlfriend, who is really more of a broken, codependent slave. As far as Star Trek's villains of the week go, he's one of the worst.

edited 3rd Apr '13 7:12:42 PM by XFllo

Done.

Requesting change to The Conversion Bureau: Not Alone:

Move Author Tract entry to YMMV.

The YMMV subpage isn't locked; you could do that part yourself.

Also, Author Tract isn't a YMMV trope.

On Mondegreen, I was going to add an example from the film "I Give It a Year", but the page is locked. In the romantic-comedy, the main couple Nat and Josh argue over misheard song lyrics. Nat thinks the lyrics from "Sweet Dreams Are Made of This" go "I travelled the world in generic jeans" instead of "I travelled the world and the seven seas", much to Josh's chagrin. She also thinks the line from "We Built This City" goes "we built this city on the wrong damn road". Josh brings up the lyrics from "Tiny Dancer", which Nat thinks goes "hold me close and tie me down sir". I would appreciate it if a moderator could add this example to the page.

Added. Thank you.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

I think we should change Gunpei Yokoi's entry on Fallen Creator from saying this:

to

I love PDP so maybe I'm biased, but it was the last series he created for Nintendo so I figure it deserves a mention.

edited 4th Apr '13 1:23:05 PM by Midna

The Bible

• Under protagonist centered morality
  • Not completely though

->"Do you Israelites think you are more important to me than the Ethiopians?" asks the Lord. "I brought you out of Egypt, but have I not done as much for other nations, too? I brought the Philistines from Crete and led the Arameans out of Kir." —>Amos 9:7

• Otherwise good Judean King Josiah interrupted Pharaoh Neco while Pharaoh was on a mission from God and was defeated in battle by Neco in 2 Kings 29.

• Under shout out the bit about Sumerian mythology should be followed by

part to add bolded.

• Under the The Stars Are Going Out "In the apocalypse" should be changed to "In the apocalypse of John". Apocalypse is just a word for revelation, it is not a singular event.

edit: -> this will format correctly when done on the page even thought it looks out of place here.

edited 4th Apr '13 4:01:07 PM by Cider

Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack

I noticed that Locked Pages and Permanent Red Link Club are now both locked, so can someone add the latter to the former's page?

It's there already. Huh?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

For the Complete Monster Film page, there seems to be a consensus to cut Captain Poison from Blood Diamond for feeling remorse.

Also on the entry for Mola Ram from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, his Thuggee Cult should be removed for being a group.

It's mentioned there, not listed there.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Bren Tenkage needs adding to the Let's Play index.

Also, please add this example to The Inheritance Cycle, as part of a TRS crosswicking effort:

• Last Starfighter: By the last book, Eragon is the last sane, free Dragon Rider left after Brom is killed by Durza, Murtagh is enslaved by Galbatorix, who mind controls him into killing Oromis and Glaedr.

edited 5th Apr '13 2:05:24 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

@5160, 5163: Oh, right. Did that.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

DTH

Another request for Monster.Live Action TV, Bones. Please cut Gormogon. For the record, if any fan of the show sees this post, the examples that stay might need some re-vamping. The entry should be like this:

• Bones:
  • Howard Epps. It's not known exactly how many women he murdered, but we know of six. He manipulated Bones and her True Companions into stopping his execution, and then escaped prison by starting a fire and killing a fire-fighter, dressing in the man's uniform, and walking out, only to continue his twisted little mind games with Bones. He shows up in her apartment, tries to kill her, and jumps from the balcony, killing himself by letting go of Booth's hand.
  • The Gravedigger is a Complete Monster simply because of the way he (or she, as it would turn out) dispatches victims: burying them alive. And we learn that the motive amounts to "because I can".

Link to Complete Monster discussion. Thanks!

edited 5th Apr '13 10:19:06 AM by XFllo

Done.

Please make Fallout New Vegas redirect to Fallout: New Vegas It makes navigation between sub-articles difficult, since there is no "(i)Main" button in them.

There is a sidebar and a dropdown list at the top of the page listing the subpages. Plus, we don't want further Main/ redirects.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Final Fantasy VII

• Non-Standard Skill Learning: The game averts this at the start, granting characters new Limit Breaks through repeated combat, but to teach a given character their level 4 Limit Break, you'll need a special item. There's also the Enemy Skill materia; see Blue Mages.

The Vampire Diaries Main Characters needs The Pollyana changed to The Pollyanna.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

, Done.

Double Standard needs Asian Gal with White Guy changed to Mighty Whitey and Mellow Yellow and Me Love You Long Time to Asian Hooker Stereotype.

Also, please move this discussion over here.

edited 6th Apr '13 8:35:51 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Done.