- Yeah, that's more Evils Pitchfork...

Maybe try Sinfest?

Satan◊ from Animaniacs? Could use a quality upgrade, but it's obviously a Big Red Devil and I like how the pitchfork is front and centre.

Erm... this trope is about evil characters who use tridents/pitchforks. Examples don't have to literally involve Satan.

I'm not going to stop anyone from replacing the image if anyone thinks it's necessary (I wasn't the one who added it; I didn't check who did either). I just wanted to point out that the image that was chosen is still an example.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 10th 2022 at 6:12:31 AM

- Well, I was in error about my proposed name then.

I would've wanted Evils Pitchfork instead of Devil's Pitchfork then.

Well, obviously evil goes with Satan and pitchforks are associated with evil because of Satan so I don't see the problem.

It ain’t that deep, but it shows the codifier. Just how Prongs of Poseidon’s wielder doesn’t literally have to be Poseidon.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 10th 2022 at 7:37:38 AM

Speaking of POP, should we change its Laconic now? And its Analysis and such too?

Edited by Malady on May 10th 2022 at 6:14:57 AM

I'd rather move Sandbox.Prongs Of Poseidon into place before changing the subpages of Main.Prongs Of Poseidon, and ideally we'd move Sandbox.Prongs Of Poseidon into place at the same time as Sandbox.Devils Pitchfork (and we'd transplant the redirects I made for that trope to point to it; I made them as well as Main.Devils Pitchfork into redirects to Prongs of Poseidon so mod intervention isn't needed to edit them).

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 10th 2022 at 7:47:48 AM

Expanded the Sandbox.Prongs Of Poseidon description some.

So these tropes are just for actual weapon wielders, right? Because I had been thinking of The Devil Wears Prada's film poster (stiletto heel that ends in a pitchfork) but that's just devil's pitchfork imagery.

Edited by Yindee on May 11th 2022 at 10:24:23 AM

Also, that would be a duplicate of the image on Film.The Devil Wears Prada.

I think they are just asking if it would be an example. But I think it is flexible enough to count.

Sandbox.Devils Pitchfork already has an image and I'm not sure if it's good enough or not.

Edited by Amonimus on May 12th 2022 at 7:09:36 PM

I think The Devil Wears Prada counts. It's using the pitchfork to evoke Satan.

I feel like we should focus less on the image and more on getting the descriptions into a state where they can be moved into Main/, followed by cleaning up the wicks, because I'd prefer if this thread didn't get derailed by discussion regarding the fact that Ganondorf isn't Satan despite still being an example of a trope about evil trident wielders. Image Pickin could still be used while wick cleanup is taking place after the split is complete.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 12th 2022 at 12:21:17 PM

So, I don't see anything wrong with the descriptions of Sandbox.Prongs Of Poseidon and Sandbox.Devils Pitchfork, so I'm going to move them to Main.Prongs Of Poseidon and Main.Devils Pitchfork in three days if nobody objects. Alternatively, they could be moved now if anyone chimes in saying they think the descriptions are fine and if the image for the latter is the only thing being objected to, and image discussion could be deferred to Image Pickin.

Edit: For the record, I mean I'll transplant the sandboxes in three days if nobody objects to the descriptions. I still don't think this is the right place to discuss image changes, so I'd still rather defer that discussion to Image Pickin.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 14th 2022 at 9:33:31 AM

Alright so if Satanic imagery/references that involve the pitchfork count then I can rustle up a couple more just from digging through google. Most are just quotes referring to devils carrying pitchforks though (like not wanting to end up on the end of the devil's pitchfork), but I think one is referring to some sort of b-movie involving a satanic pitchfork dude.

I should probably clarify that when I said I was prioritizing the descriptions with the plan to move the sandboxes to Main/, I wasn't saying that image changes can't be done at all before the move. My reason for prioritizing the descriptions is partially because the descriptions and examples are more important than images and page quotes, and partially because images for trope pages are subject to change to a greater extent than descriptions (plus they're easier to change, since Image Pickin changes tend to go through more quickly and easily than Trope Description Improvement Drive changes), hence why I referenced Image Pickin.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 13th 2022 at 11:54:09 AM

Alright since Devil's is the new trope, I tried to page through a bunch of google results in hopes of finding more examples. Tedious and nigh fruitless work, but eh. Is what it is.

To avoid people accidentally checking an already checked section, it'd probs be good for people to say which namespaces they've looked through so others can know they don't need to

for example, Evil Counterpart wicks are

Edited by amathieu13 on May 16th 2022 at 1:11:16 PM

Usually we just make sandboxes for that; it's easier to help us keep track.

Poseidon only has 650 wicks. We're just moving the Devil-s, right? No need to Google things?

Or are there not enough examples?

Edited by Malady on May 16th 2022 at 10:16:53 AM

We're also completely removing examples that don't have have anything to do with the sea (Prongs of Poseidon) or evil (Devil's Pitchfork) instead of moving them.

Double posting because I made Sandbox.Prongs Of Poseidon Wick Cleaning. I'll add a link to the opening post.