Fixing zero context examples

These examples read as repetitive because they don't say much about what the school looks like, why ghouls are going to school at all and so on.

True, but in many cases even that will be similar. Most cases have students to be a Monster Mash and the school to be the typical Haunted House.

Allthough the most detailed description does can help in some cases.

The Broken Saints character sheet is exclusively made up of zero-context examples. If there's anyone that knows the work that could add some context and uncomment the examples, that would be much appreciated.

Isn't the usual procedure with 100% ZCE pages is to cut them and start again from scratch rather than leave what's essentially a blank page?

I usually start by looking at the linked trope pages to see if there's a description there. It's very common for people to think the trope description only has to go on the trope page, not the work page.

Also, it's a good idea to check for trope pages which link to the work page and can be cross-wicked. (Though this is a lot harder to do with character pages—you can look at what links to the main page, but most of those won't be character tropes.)

edited 14th Jan '17 12:23:26 PM by Xtifr

So, I'm currently cleaning up some wicks (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=14844579690A99308900&page=1#1) and I see some Zero Context Examples in some work's page. I comment them out and leave the comment that's in the header of this thread on the page. What would you guys suggest I do after that? Just leave it there, or bring it up in this thread? (For reference, the specific page is Literature.Favor Of Ares.)

I just haven't dealt with ZC Es in a long time, so I kind of forgot.

Ea Cycle has a bunch of Zero Context Examples. I myself would fix them but I'm not familiar with the work itself.

Hello, Attorney! is loaded with ZCEs, but I don't know how to provide decent context, and if I just comment out all the entries there really isn't much of a trope page left.

Allie Beckstrom was all ZC Es (and a stub description). I was able to add context for most of them from the corresponding trope pages. However, I still had to comment some out that I didn't find sufficient context for, and the context is still fairly weak on a number of them.

Eek. I just discovered Visible Silence, and the Webcomics section is basically all weblinks (and there are a number of ZC Es in other sections as well). Not really sure what to do with that one—aside from discussed and/or subverted examples (e.g., where "..." turns out to be something actually observed by the other characters rather than simply silence), it doesn't seem like there's much to say. I'm not really sure why it's a trope rather than a Useful Notes page.

Here are a few pages that have ZCE that I'm aware of:

Dual Hearts: It has a few tropes with descriptions, but it has quite a lot of ZC Es.

The Mysteries of Alfred Hedgehog: Same deal, a few tropes with discussion, but a of tropes that just have the names of characters and nothing else.

Morenatsu: The main page itself isn't bad, but the character page has a lot of ZC Es that either need deleting or someone to add information if they fit

Fully-Dressed Cartoon Animal is positively plagued with zero-context examples.

edited 6th Feb '17 5:06:01 AM by Morgenthaler

Just did a cleanup of DokiDoki! Precure - Pretty Cure. Commented out a lot of ZC Es, and a lot of the remaining ones could still use significantly more and/or clearer context.

I just discovered this practice and am kind of troubled by it. Yes, Zero Context Examples are bad form, but are they really so heinous they should be stricken from the page altogether? Making the Zero Context Example only visible in the page source makes it incredibly less likely to be fixed by someone visiting the page. Perhaps there's a symbol we could use to denote a ZCE or something?

edited 17th Feb '17 4:46:04 PM by Ryonne

I was looking at the page for GoLion, and I've counted at least nine blank tropes, and a few that are barely descriptive (i.e Guess, Amue's main dress, Amue).

Anndd Mirai Robo Daltanious is in the same boat. Most of the barely descripters don't even have periods!

edited 21st Feb '17 7:30:24 AM by Crossover-Enthusiast

Freedom City Play By Post PQRS and Earth 14 needs a severe ZCE cleaning or ZCE commenting out.

The Voice with an Internet Connection example section seems infested with ZCEs.

What context is needed for Deadpan Snarker examples? I've come across a lot of:

• Deadpan Snarker: Alice, Bob, and Charlie. David has his moments.

edited 17th Mar '17 12:50:34 PM by Gosicrystal

Dropped a comment-out bomb on Sekaikei Genre. If anyone has better context for the examples, feel free to readd them. I also don't know what to do with the Clover example, as I'm unfamiliar with it and the entry doesn't really make it clear how it fits the Sadistic Choice that's at the core of the trope. (It mentions a "similarity" to Chobits, which I axed because the conflict in question was based around the nature of the relationship, not the world.)

Also, I should note that after I cluster-bombed the page, we're left with only two purely straight examples (not counting the one above). Does this require bringing up in the Crash Rescue thread?

edited 19th Mar '17 8:29:54 PM by Ramidel

Back in 2013 a user named 103pmaL added some non-sense examples to some work pages, most of which that I believe were ZCEs. Here's what I've found...

Drake & Josh:

• Crossover: Drake & Josh had a crossover with Zoey 101 and Unfabulous in which a hurricane strikes the shows' respective towns - San Diego, Malibu and Santa Barbara. The three-part special was originally scheduled to air in May 2006, but due to the massive tornado outbreak happening at that time, it ultimately didn't air until October of that year.
• Zonk: In Peruvian Puff Pepper, Megan orders the eponymous condiment for her salsa which she will enter in a salsa-making contest where Drake and Josh are one of her rival competitors. This pepper "ensures" her victory in the contest. The brothers manage to steal the pepper from her, much to her anger for being unable to retrieve it from her denying brothers. When the brothers had used the pepper for their salsa and won the contest, Megan tricks them to reveal the "secret ingredient" of their salsa. It is then revealed that the pepper had adverse side effects and is illegal, thus disqualifying the brothers' salsa. Since Megan is in second-place, she gets the first prize plasma TV instead.
• Directed by Cast Member (in Trivia): Drake Bell directed the first part of Really Big Shrimp, while Josh Peck directed the episode The Storm (part one of a hurricane-themed crossover with Zoey 101 and Unfabulous).

Zoey 101:

• Real Song Theme Tune: Jamie Lynn sings the theme song, titled "Follow Me".

iCarly

• "Do It Yourself" Theme Tune: Starting with the episode "iWill Date Freddie", Miranda, aka Carly, sings the theme tune.
• Replaced the Theme Tune: Avril Lavigne and Drake Bell sang the theme song, titled "Leave It All To Me" — that was until the episode "iRock with Drake Parker" in which Carly sang Avril's vocals at the end of the episode. Then, a version of "Leave It All To Me" by Miranda Cosgrove and Drake Bell became the top-downloaded song on iTunes for the week, and coincidentally, the Avril Lavigne version was dropped starting with "iWill Date Freddie". Promptly, this ended Nickelodeon's aversion of Disney Channel's tradition of Do It Yourself Theme Tunes.
• Directed by Cast Member (in Trivia): Only once — Jerry Trainor directs the "iApril's Fools" episode.

And that's not all; I think 103pmaL also added ZCEs to other articles; go here and look up the history of those pages.

edited 21st Mar '17 5:12:44 PM by AmourMitts

^ I'm not seeing what the problem with these examples are. If they've been up for four years, there's likely never been an issue.

None of those are ZCEs. The only one that's questionable is the one for Zonk because it never mentions what the "zonk" prize is, or even if the second prize is a zonk.

Ray Bradbury Theater is literally nothing but zero context examples.

Cutlisted both it and the YMMV. EDIT: Dewicking complete.

edited 25th Mar '17 6:53:28 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

Wait, did you actually remove wicks that could have fleshed out the page so it could be cutlisted? That's the exact opposite of what we're trying to do here.