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The Butterfly Villain is going to be named "The Monarch''.And we're totally going to make The Venture Bros. jokes.
- That or "Papillon", and then we're going to make Busou Renkin jokes.
- Yes and no. Le Papillon in French while in English and Korean dubs he is called Hawk Moth.
Chat Noir's name is Felix.Because a) it's a common cat name and b) it's ironic, considering the meaning of the word.
- Confirmed. The French language version of the show page gives his name as Felix.
The mime villain will defeat Ladybug badly at some point.Considering his seemingly-broken shadow powers, he may cause our heroine to need very urgent rescuing.
- Jossed. He doesn't do much better than the rest.
The final version of the show (CGI notwithstanding) was what they were really planning to do all along.The creators were just saying all that stuff about the show originally being planned to be dark/edgy and all serious/"mature" just so they could please the (especially older) anime fans and reassure them that this show is still worth their time; same thing with the "Toei might make a 2D anime version themselves" claim.
Hawk Moth has a Miraculous and a KwamiThe show's opening sequence shows four kwamis. There's Tikki and Plagg and an unknown pink and green kwami. If you freeze the opening at just the right moment you see the pink kwami heading towards something that looks exactly like Hawk Moth's "Butterfly Pin".
- CONFIRMED! The pink kwami in the opening credits is indeed Hawk-Moth's Miraculous.
There will be a Master of Illusion akuma.During his/her appearance, an accident will cause Ladybug and/or Cat Noir's identity to be revealed to the other, but by the end, they just assume it was the spell of the Villain of the Week.
- Confirmed and Jossed. Volpina is a Master of Illusion villain, but this scenario is not present.
The Green "Lucky Charm" introduced in "The Gamer" is a Miraculous and contains a KwamiAgain, in the show's opening a green Kwami can be seen and it heads towards something that looks suspiciously close to the green "Lucky Charm".
- Jossed: It's just a lucky bracelet. The green Miraculous and its owner have been revealed in Birth of Ladybug part 1
Hawk Moth is himself an Akuma.With the ability to create other Akumas given by their Kwami, almost entirely controlled by them due to being emotionally empty.
In a bit of irony, Chloe will not be Akuma-ized.With a character like her, wouldn't it have happened by now if it were true?
- Alternately, her Akuma's effect will be to make Chloe gentle, kind, and considerate. Makes no sense, but it'd be funny.
- Unfortunately, both jossed; Chloe becomes the Akuma Anti-Bug
- Alternately, her Akuma's effect will be to make Chloe gentle, kind, and considerate. Makes no sense, but it'd be funny.
The green Kwami seen in the opening represents a four-leaf clover.Based on the two known Kwamis being themed around luck, it would make sense that the others may be as well. Combine that with the Kwami's green color, and the four-leaf clover comes to mind as a possibility.
- Jossed: It represents a turtle
Villain of the Week formula will only last one season.It will end with Hawk Moth's defeat in season's final.
Hawk Moth does not/cannot discern his victims' identities.Who his victims are serves no purpose in his search for negativity, and when someone is akumatized, he determines the source of the negativity and gives them a new name.
- Jossed: He knows who Ivan is during the second origins episode.
Lila's last name is either Cagliostro or Balsamo.As a homage to the infamous Count Alessandro di Cagliostro, born Guiseppe Balsamo, a Sicilian Phony Psychic and Snake Oil Salesman who traveled across Europe, struck it big in Paris, then he was arrested and exiled.
- Jossed. Her official last name is Rossi.
- Jossed. We don't see anything like that.
The Butterfly villain is related to Ladybug.Specifically, he's her grandfather.
- She inherited her ladybug earrings from her grandmother, but her grandfather hasn't been mentioned yet.
- His symbol is a Butterfly of Death and Rebirth. He's gone a little crazy after the death of his wife. He wants to steal Ladybug's earrings, and with their Good Luck powers and his own powers of Rebirth, he wants to resurrect his dead wife, and have both of them be 'reborn' together. (Bonus tragedy if he doesn't realize Ladybug is his own granddaughter.)
- Origins has jossed the "inherited from grandmother" aspect of this theory.
Hawk Moth will use an Akuma on at least one of the protagonists.
Chat Blanc will be Chat Noir's akuma personality.Expanding to the WMG above. This is a popular theory that's been circulating around fanon, already generated fanart. This troper didn't come up with it but added it for archive purposes. It's also often coupled with the WMG below.
Hawk Moth is Adrien's father.It seems apparent at this point (ep. 2), considering their very similar body shape (especially the same large eyes).
- They also seem to have the same voice actor. Plus, his father's current design seems to show some similarites to Hawk Moth's earlier design in the 2d Ladybug PV. Being both men in white
- You are not the only one who feels this way.◊
- Sorry for the natter and not OT but do you have the original source and more fanart related to this?
- Here. It's not the original source -seems that's been terminated- but you can reblog from this at least.
- Sorry for the natter and not OT but do you have the original source and more fanart related to this?
- They also have very similar facial structures. Plus their personalities have definite similarities such as the fact that they both seem to like making others do their work.
- Possibly Jossed: Gabriel is seen scolding Adrien for attempting to go to school while Stone Heart is still running around.
- Then again the pendant that Hawk Moth has and seems to use to transform has a picture of a woman who seems to look remarkably like Adrien's Mother who has "mysteriously disappeared".
- "Jackady", implies more strongly than ever that Gabriel is Hawk Moth:
- Gabriel is paying so much attention to the Miraculous of both heroes. He even reaches for Ladybug's earrings at some point. When Chat Noir interrupts the exchange between him and Ladybug, he gets very irritated.
- He looks mysteriously back at a large picture of his wife before the next Hawk Moth scene and he asks Adrien about his ring, stating that he didn't remember him wearing one.
- When the Villain of the Week says that he is going to get Gabriel Agreste, Hawkmoth laments that "It's a risky plan, but inspired" implying that the villain's actions are endangering him somehow. When the villain manages to tear down Gabriel Agreste's door, Hawk Moth is angrier than usual and asks him what the hell he thinks he is doing.
- And then when the Villain of the Week catches him, he hypnotizes him into believing that he is a butterfly, a "Papillon", which is Hawk-Moth's French name. Seriously, the writers aren't even being subtle at this point.
- Probably the biggest is that there was no ending rant from Hawk Moth in the episode. Makes sense, since he was out of commission after Gabriel got captured and hypnotized. Either the animators want it to be obvious or it's a red herring playing off of the fans' theories to make a plot twist even more shocking.
- Possible Meaningful Name: The agreste is the French name for the Grayling butterfly.
- Counterpoint: Gabriel and Hawk Moth are often seen within minutes of each other ("The Bubbler," "Jackady," "Origins"), and the Agreste mansion is right by the Eiffel Tower (specifically, Adrien's bedroom window faces the base). When Hawk Moth releases an akuma, it always flies over a cityscape with the Eiffel Tower in the distance. Unless Hawk Moth's powers come with some sort of teleportation, it doesn't make sense logistically.
- If Volpina's illusion of Hawk Moth was accurate, teleportation is one of his powers.
- Guys, listen to the Hawk Moth's voice in Origins Part 1, before he transforms for the first time. It is the exact same voice as Gabriel Agreste. It is literally identical. Yeah, this theory has been confirmed.
- If Hawk Moth is indeed Gabriel, Master Wu will figure this out or at least suspect once Marinette tells him where she got the book he's been looking for.
Hawk Moth/Papillion is not Gabriel Agreste but rather a former romantic rival who never lost his love for Adrien's mother.
- And the rival hides his desire to get revenge on Gabriel for the disappearance of his love. He's perfectly fine with removing Gabriel from the picture (possibly even trading him for his wife) and keeping Adrien around but has no qualms about eliminating the boy if he gets in the way. Bonus shock value if this former rival is someone Adrien considers an Honorary Uncle.
- If Gabriel is aware of his former rival's feelings towards him (but not his supervillain activities), the extra security is to make sure that Adrien is never alone with his "uncle" long enough for things to go south.
Hawk Moth will be an Arc VillainAccording to the opening, there are at least five other kwamis besides Plagg and Tikki. If the pink-purple one is indeed Hawk Moth's, then his unmasking and defeat will set up for one of the other four kwamis' users take his place as Big Bad.
- The other Kwamis potentially being used by Big Bads seems unlikely at present, due to Master Fu possessing all but one of the other unaccounted-for Miraculous. That having been said, there IS one unaccounted for besides the Butterfly Brooch.
- As of "Volpina", the missing peacock miraculous belongs to Gabriel Agreste, and seems to have previously belonged to Adrien's mother. Since Hawk Moth has not yet been defeated or even unmasked, he is bound to stay for at least one more season.
- The other Kwamis potentially being used by Big Bads seems unlikely at present, due to Master Fu possessing all but one of the other unaccounted-for Miraculous. That having been said, there IS one unaccounted for besides the Butterfly Brooch.
Hawk Moth is Mr. KubdelWe all expect it to be Mr. Agreste, but there's someone else who has access to research concerning the Miraculous.
Hawk Moth will undergo a Heel–Face Turn.In the opening, a green kwami and a mauve-ish kwami appear alongside Tikki and Plagg, and it is widely believed that the butterfly-shaped brooch and it's mauve kwami is Hawk Moth's Miraculous. There is a rumor floating around that the green kwami is working with a yet-to-be-seen character named Master Fu, who is likely intended to be a kind of veteran hero/mentor to Ladybug and Chat Noir. Why would the heroes' kwamis and the villain's be seen together...unless they'll work together in the future?
- Jossed in regards to Season 1. The reason Nooroo and Wayzz are in the opening appears to be simply because they're the only kwami besides Tikki and Plagg that were shown and named this season.
Hawk Moth's akuma supply is limited.Hence why he restricts himself to one victim per day.
- I would also think that due to his powers coming from a Miraculous, it's a one-time-per-day thing. Then again, there was Antibug, where he used two (although one had been used the previous day off-screen). Unless he fed his kwami very quickly.
- This makes a lot of sense if we take the akumas to be the same as Ladybug's Lucky Charm and Chat Noir's Cataclysm. Including the five-minute rule. As for the time he made two akumas on the same episode, well, we have seen Ladybug and Chat use their abilities twice on the same day, so it could be a similar case for him.
Hawk Moth is one of Chloe's relatives.We don't know much about Hawk Moth, but from his outfit and the few details we can see of his lair, he seems to be a fairly affluent individual. The Bourgeois family has been shown as very well-off compared to most of the rest of the cast (besides perhaps the Agreste family), and it would be an interesting story element given how often Chloe seems to act as a catalyst for people becoming akumatized. (Note: given Chloe's idolization of Ladybug, it seems unlikely that she's purposefully catalyzing these transformations, even if this guess is proven correct.) While it can't be Chloe's father (the events of Rogercop clearly show them in different locations during the same period of time), who's to say she doesn't have a creepy uncle? Or even an estranged older brother?
If Hawk Moth's akuma caught someone who was happy or in a good mindset, they would become a superhero.This was hinted in Evillustrator, where Nathanael was caught in a moment where he was thinking about both his frustration of Chloe and his crush on Marinette, and both were intensified for his akuma self, the latter of which angered Hawk Moth.
- Possibly confirmed. Nooroo's exposition seems to suggest that Hawk Moth's use of his Miraculous is a corruption of its normal intent, which likely means it was meant to operate on positive emotions, not negative ones.
Hawk Moth's powers can be employed in reverse.Rather than bestow/add to negative emotions, the white butterflies can absorb and trap a person's stress, sorrow and/or anger. Basically, be a benevolent Emotion Eater.
Hawk Moth can intercept Ladybug and Chat Noir's calls.Hawk Moth is misusing a Miraculous that is supposed to be on LB and CN's side, right? So he should be able to listen in when they phone each other with her yoyo and his staff.
Hawk Moth is targeting people close to Marinette and Adrien, either knowingly or unknowingly.While we know that the protagonists save akuma victims not shown in detail on the show (The Magician), it's interesting that a staggering number of akuma can be traced back to people Marinette and Adrien know in real life. Their classmates (all of them!), schoolmates (Stormy Weather), classmates' families (Pharaoh, Rogercop, Mime, Kung Food), to people they just happen to be in the same area as (Animan, Guitar Villain, Simon Says). Especially egregious in that Marinette's uncle comes to Paris for, what, two or three days? and is akumatized the day of his arrival. It's possible that Hawk Moth (maybe via his kwami) can "sense" where Tikki and Plagg are, even if he cannot immediately discern their holders' identities, and sends out akuma to target people close to them to easily draw them out. (Of course, the Doylist answers to this are "Plot, duh" and "It's easier to care about an akuma victim if they're someone our heroes/the audience already know.")
Hawk Moth's akuma will never work on Ladybug and Cat Noir.Because Incorruptible Pure Pureness, that's why. While being brainwashed by an akuma victim is fair game (ask Cat Noir), gaining powers from Hawk Moth requires consent that one is giving in to The Corruption, and, well, we can't have the heroes of a kid's show doing that.
Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth and he is a huge comic book nerd.He went to pursue a career in fashion because he secretly loves comic book villian costumes and wanted to create some of his own. Sadly he found himself only desgining for supermodels, which had nothing super about them. All of them were spoiled, stupid little stick figures with poofy lips who think only about themselves. He finally found solace as Hawk Moth creating the names and costumes for the god-villians he always dreamt of.
Hawk Moth has a tragic backstory.Miraculous holders become their innermost selves: Marinette is confident as Ladybug and Adrien is jovial as Chat Noir. Hawk Moth, whoever he is in mundane life, must have his fullest personality burst to the surface with his mask on as well. Along with the persona of a Card-Carrying Villain, Hawk Moth has a tendency to sound sympathetic to his victims misfortunes, especially in the French dub. Perhaps akumatizing is not only to further his mysterious goal, but to vicariously lash out through the Villain of the Week?
- If Hawk Moth's secret identity is Gabriel Agreste, his backstory could take inspiration from the early life of his namesake, Coco Chanel, which included poverty and Parental Abandonment.
Hawk Moth's akumas are not true akumas.Akumas are comparable to The Heartless, so I propose a dynamic similar to naturally occurring Pureblood Heartless vs. Magitek-made Emblem Heartless from Kingdom Hearts. A) It has yet to be clarified whether or not "akuma" is the name of a white butterfly or a corrupted one. Since the name is Japanese for devil, it's most likely the latter. B) Miraculous heroes have probably always battled akumas, so the creatures must have been around for much longer than when Hawk Moth started using the butterfly brooch for evil. C) The civilians' negativity serves as the tinder for the akumas, but Hawk Moth's own negativity is the spark. They are a mix of two darknesses, and therefore an artificial concoction.
Cat Noir/Adrien will be Hawk Moth's Morality Chain.Only if, y'know, he really is Gabriel Agreste. It mostly depends on what path the writers want to take for the target audience. Do they want to be simplistic by keeping the Big Bad a human-shaped obstacle for the heroes to defeat, or be optimistic and make him redeemable?
Hawk Moth will choose between potential victims at once.Realistically speaking, more than one person can experience negative emotions at the same time, even from the same event. When Hawk Moth has the opportunity to pick one person to akumatize over someone else, the choice will be based in personal issues and give the audience a hint to his secret identity.
Akumatized villains can dispel the dark powerThere are several reasons for why this has yet to happen: Hawk Moth specifically targets those in a fragile state of mind and emotion, victims don't understand what is happening to them to properly resist, and they enjoy the power that comes with the transformation. But if it came to pass that Marinette or Adrien was corrupted by Hawk Moth, they manage Fighting from the Inside, then finally forcing the akuma out through Heroic Willpower, and it will be so awesome!
Hawk Moth is not Gabriel Agreste, but rather, is a brother or another relative of his.While it is fairly apparent that Hawk Moth has some sort of connection to Gabriel Agreste due to the numerous similarities between them, there are a few key pieces of evidence that make at least this troper doubtful that they are one and the same. The first piece of evidence against the theory would be Hawk Moth's eye color, which is a much lighter blue than Gabriel's eyes are. (Admittedly, Ladybug's eyes become a slightly lighter shade of blue when she's in hero mode, so this could just be due to the kwami having that effect on whomever uses them. However, I wouldn't have noticed that Ladybug's eye color changed at all had it not been pointed out to me numerous times, so at least the change in less pronounced with her). Hawk Moth's skin tone appears to be much lighter than Gabriel's as well. Their face shapes don't appear to be exactly the same shape either, though that could be an illusion created by Hawk Moth's mask. Physicality aside, there's also the fact that Gabriel's appearances in Simon Says would not match up with Hawk Moth's, timing wise- several of the clips we get of Hawk Moth are at points where Gabriel is presumably preoccupied, and Hawk Moth can't be two places at once. All said, Gabriel obviously has some sort of connection to the miraculous in general, so it seems unwise to discount him as an entirely innocent party in all this. Given that Hawk Moth bears a strong to Gabriel, if not a perfect one, they easily look as though they could be siblings. Perhaps Gabriel's got a brother whom he has a strained relationship with- maybe they were part of a love triangle involving both Agreste brothers and Mrs. Agreste, for instance, or something along those lines. Whatever the reason for it, perhaps Mr. Agreste's brother resents both Gabriel and Cat Noir enough that he wouldn't mind using either of them as collateral damage to further his own schemes.
Hawkmoth's Heel–Face TurnHawkmoth is doing the wrong thing for the right reason, and his Arc will be resolved in the first two parter of season 2, at which point he'll join the winning team as the Zordon figure, trying to discipline Ladybug and Cat Noir into great heroes to fight the forces of a new big bad in Ladybug in Shanghai.
Hawk Moth has Villain Teleportation.Going by the majority view of "Hawk Moth is really Gabriel Agreste", this would explain how the guy could be on TV one minute, then almost immediately back in his lair — and in costume on top of it — afterward in the episode "Simon Says". Not to mention Volpina's spot-on illusion of him being a strong implication of this as well.
Hawk Moth’s akuma victims will reappear as heroes.During a season finale, a powerful enemy arises. If an akuma, it is one too powerful for Hawk Moth to control. When Ladybug and Chat Noir are driven into a corner by their opponent, Hawk Moth uses his powers properly and benevolently when they respond to all past supervillains’ desire to help their heroes and transforms them again.
Hawk Moth is Mrs. Agreste.Originally, she was the butterfly Miraculous, while her husband was the peacock Miraculous. At some point, though, she was presumed lost during a battle. To save her life, Nooroo used their powers on herself, as an Emergency Transformation. Unfortunately, however, this was corrupted by the akuma (or whatever) they were fighting, turning her into an evil copy of Gabriel, and causing (of course) Laser-Guided Amnesia. She keeps a picture of who she once was; while she doesn't know who the woman in the picture is, she can't bring herself to get rid of it. Meanwhile, the loss devastated Gabriel, causing him to hang up the brooch and completely changing his personality. Shortly, however, he was forced into a final fight, to protect Adrien from a "dark Miraculous"; during the course of this fight, he realised who Hawk Moth really was. At the end, Hawk found that "he" couldn't finish Gabriel off, and merely left; Gabriel, after coming out of shock, decided to do everything he could to protect his son. He distanced himself in hopes that Hawk wouldn't see his son as his weak point on the chance that "he" figured out who the peacock Miraculous was, and set up all those defenses as a backup measure. Considering this, the climactic battle will involve Gabriel coming out of retirement as the peacock Miraculous, and teaming up with Ladybug & Noir against Hawk. In the end, Ladybug will use her Lucky Charm... and, to her surprise, get a picture of the Agreste family. Gabriel will finally put two and two together, and the three of them will find a way to restore Hawk's memories; this will involve both Gabriel and Adrien revealing their identities (and Marinette revealing hers, either by being awkward around Adrien, or by telling him after the battle), and Hawk eventually regaining her memories. Marinette will use her World-Healing Wave on Hawk, removing the corruption and turning her back into the butterfly Miraculous. [This ties into the similar theory below, that the Agreste parents were a Miraculous Battle Couple before Mrs. Agreste disappeared.]
Trusting Hawk Moth with a Miraculous is the mistake Master Fu alluded to in the Origins Episode.When Wayzz questioned Master Fu's choices of holders for Ladybug's earrings and Cat Noir's ring, his main concern was the ring since Master Fu entrusted it to Gabriel Agreste's son and Gabriel is Hawk Moth.
- Sorry to be a party pooper but I have to object. When Hawk Moth is first seen talking to Nooroo in the first Origins Episode he claims that he "found" Nooroo. Master Fu even claims that he thought that the Butterfly Miraculous "was lost forever". These claims indicate that if Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth that he wasn't given the Miraculous by Master Fu, he found it on his own. In addition, if Wayzz and Master Fu know the Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth then why are they keeping this vital information from the heroes? After all the two sent out the the Ladybug and Black Cat Miraculous to stop Hawk Moth. So if Master Fu and Wayzz intend to stop Hawk Moth it makes no sense for them to know who Hawk Moth is and drag out the plot by not telling the heroes this key information.
- Then Master Fu left the Miraculous where he expected someone else to find it. He eventually figured out his intended target didn't get it but didn't find out who got it.
Hawk Moth is Gabriel Agreste's akumatized form.He was actually the first victim of the real Hawk Moth, and is being used as a patsy to hide the real mastermind's misdeeds.
Ladybug will be the first hero to find out Hawk Moth's Secret Identity.She'll be so conflicted about her crush's father being the villain. Afraid of Adrien's reaction, she won't tell Cat Noir and Master Fu. She'll also start avoiding Adrien out of fear he's with his Dad. She'll assume that's the reason Adrien has never been Akumatized.
Hawk Moth is Gabriel Agreste's alternate personality.Gabriel Agreste is displayed as being a calm and collected face (some would even call it "cold") obsessing over his work and goes to great lengths to keep Adrien busy and under-control, afraid that something could happen to him otherwise. Hawk Moth on the other hand is an egomaniacal, power hungry menace that corrupts others regardless of who they are (from little children to adults), sending them out to cause destruction and devastation in his quest for power. While it is possible that Gabriel's cool demeanor is just a face he puts on for the public, it is equally as likely that they are in fact two different personas entirely. In "Simon Says" and "Volpina", it is made pretty clear that Gabriel knows about the miraculouses, possessing an ancient book about the miraculouses, possibly possessing the peacock miraculous, recognizing the cat miraculous on Adrien's finger in its powered-down state, etc. This is most revealing in the Christmas special, where he spends much of his time staring at the portrait of his missing wife, then being the first Christmas he has without her. When he is told that his son has gone missing, he goes to great lengths to find Adrien and bring him home, calling the police and contacting all of his school mates. Meanwhile, Hawk Moth creates a supervillain that just happens to be involved with Adrien somehow and does not see any problem. If Gabriel was fully aware of his Hawk Moth-ways, he probably would hold-off his evil schemes and focus all of his energy on finding Adrien. It is clear that one of the few things that he loves more than anything is his son, and when he saw Adrien's ring, he was shocked to see it. If Gabriel was Hawk Moth in full awareness, then someone like Gabriel would try and confiscate it from Adrien directly under some kind of ruse without ricking harm to his son, yet it isn't ever brought up and Hawk Moth does his usual "create a supervillain to draw them out" plan as always. In "Simon Says", the villain he creates desires revenge against Gabriel for humiliating him. Hawk Moth believes it to be "risky", but he goes along with it with no clear sense of worry for his own safety. Hawk Moth and Gabriel are never seen actively doing anything independent of each other, Gabriel by himself during the Hawk Moth's scenes. Because of this, I believe that while they both share knowledge on common things, it is possible that the mental split causes the two to act on with no awareness of each other, one blacking out as the other takes over.
Hawk Moth is being mind-controlledTies into the "Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth" theory. A new character has been confirmed for Season 3 named Le Paon and she holds the peacock miraculous, is a supervillain, and will become Hawk Moth's boss. The main idea that would hold this theory together would be if the peacock miraculous can be used to hypnotize/brainwash somebody. True, Hawk Moth appears to be acting alone but if he is Gabriel Agreste then the plan falls short. Gabriel Agreste cannot use the Ladybug earrings because he does not have piercings. In addition, in the episode "Simon Says" when Cat Noir shouts at Gabriel to "do what I tell you" it makes Gabriel react. This implies that Gabriel is very familiar with somebody angrily giving him orders. And since Gabriel has the peacock miraculous it would mean that the only way for Le Paon to ever show up is if Gabriel hands it over. "But wait!" I hear you say. "Sure this proves that if Gabriel is Hawk Moth then he is taking orders, but what proves that he's brainwashed?" Well, Hawk Moth acts like he trying to take the miraculous for himself without referring to anybody. And if Gabriel Agreste is a brainwashed Hawk Moth then it opens the door to the possibility of a redemption, so Adrien doesn't lose his father.
Hawk Moth targets Adrien's class so much because he's aware of Chloe's reputation for hurting people around her.He knows that where Chloe Bourgeois goes, misery will soon follow (and, since she's the mayor's daughter, this will not change in the near future), so the easiest way to find victims is for him to keep tabs on Chloe and then send akumas to the people she tears down. The fact that Adrien is also in her class is practically a non-issue, so long as Hawk Moth never sends akumas after his (probably) son.
If Hawk Moth is Gabriel, then his Control Freak tendencies extend from a case of Even Evil Has Loved OnesGiven that Hawk Moth's MO is going after people after they've been hurt emotionally and Gabriel is very much an Overprotective Dad, if he is indeed Hawk Moth, he probably doesn't want unintentionally akumatize his own son, hence his attempts to control Adrien's life is an effort to try to protect Adrien from his own plans.
Marinette will find circumstancial evidence pointing to Gabriel being Hawk MothThe evidence convinces her enough that Ladybug will publicly expose Gabriel, tarnishing his reputation. Then it turns out he wasn't Hawk Moth after all and he gets akumatized thanks to Marinette.
Theorizing on the owners of the other kwamis.The opening implies that the titular Ladybug and Chat Noir are not the only miraculous individuals as along with Tikki and Plagg we see green and light purplish kwamis but no idea of who they could belong to. The Other Wiki has currently dubbed them as the green and butterfly kwamis and on closer inspection we see what is currently seen as a turtle shell and wings respectively. But who possesses these two transformable companions? Is it someone of the cast we have already come to know and if that is the case are they going to Marinette and Adrien's level or newbies? Or perhaps a new member of the cast will arrive and be a holder of one?
- As of Season 1 finale, besides Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat, the following information is available:
The butterfly kwami is called Nooroo, and his miraculous is currently being used by Hawk Moth.
The turtle kwami is called Wayzz, and his miraculous belongs to Master Fu; Fu doesn't transform anymore, but wears the bracelet and has Wayzz around.
Of the other known miraculouses the fox and the bee ones are kept by Master Fu, and the peacock one is kept by Gabriel Agreste; the associated kwami lie dormant within and haven't been shown yet.
- As of 2016, the appearances for the bee, fox, and peacock kwamis (as well as names for the latter two-Trixx and Duusu, respectively) have been revealed. It's also been revealed the Alya will be getting the fox miraculous and Chloe will be getting the bee one in season 2, and that the peacock hero will be seen in season 3.
Hawk Moth’s Miraculous belonged to Mrs. AgresteThis theory combines with the one saying Adrien’s father is Hawk Moth. Adrien’s mother was a heroine and wielder of the butterfly Miraculous from her teenage years into parenthood. Gabriel was either her partner, or just an incredibly understanding husband. One day, she died while on a mission, or disappeared and left her Miraculous brooch and its kwami behind. Gabriel and the kwami, heartbroken, decided to team up and bring back the woman they both love, either to revive her or find her by collecting the other Miraculouses.
- The only part wrong with this is the fact that, as Origins shows, Nooroo does not want to be used for evil, but has no choice but to obey Hawk Moth. Otherwise, good theory.
- Tying into this is the second Miraculous that Gabriel keeps in his safe. Perhaps he used to use that one while Battle Couple-ing with his wife, then respecced as Hawk Moth because that powerset could be better applied to villainy? Think about it, the male fashion designer with the peacock Miraculous is pretty damn fitting.
All possible Miraculouses and their symbolismBy what the opening shows Ladybug and Chat Noir are not alone in their adventures as we see the green and Butterfly kwami flying along with Tikki and Plagg as they reach their Miraclouses along with a few other colors. In the center of the display is of course the spotted insect and black cat's rings of the ear and finger variety belonging to our masked crime-fighting duo. From classic myth we know between the two of them it's a parralel to good luck and bad luck. But where do the others fit in on possibility? Miraculouses in the opening we don't already know:
- Purple/Butterfly Miraculous: This one is theorized to be owned by Hawk Moth due to how their motif is winged insects. The Other Wiki says if Hawk Moth owns this it's probably in the form of a bowtie but to me it looks like a pin. It is also mentioned that the butterfly is a symbol of of transformation, this makes sense because just like a caterpillar emerges as a butterfly Hawk Moth uses his akumas to transform people into villains.(It also seems like a bit of a stretch but I did look up what moths mean and some factors they are associated with include determination, concealment, attraction, shadows, and psychic awareness. So far we have seen the main villain of the show as an individual determined to steal the heroes Miraculouses by attracting someone to become a villain he controls to go through Paris while remaining in that dark room of a lair.)
- Green Miraculous: So far rumors are going around that this kwami resembles a turtle in some factors and might belong to a character yet to be revealed known as Master Fu. The destination this fourth and currently final kwami goes to is a bracelet which the animatic for the opening has looking like an Ouroboros, a serpentlike or dragon reptile swallowing its own tail. On the turtle perspective the symbolism can stand for patience, longevity, and protection. If the Ouroboros design in the draft has any importance then it's an eternal cycle, maybe like how every few years the Miraculouses get new owners.
- Blue Miraculous-Currently we have yet to see a kwami associated with this section of the Miraculous stand but in its place is what resembles some type of seashell or hand fan.
- Looking at the opening in better details has it look similar to a peacock. Peacocks can be associated with glory, refinement, and incorruptibility, as well as vision (akin to the eye-shaped spots of a peacock's feathers).
- Yellow Miraculous: Similar to the Blue Miraculous we have yet to see an associated kwami. I also can't exactly make out what it's supposed to be. If the animatic is used for a bit of possibility even though it's placed on the opposite side of the display it seems to be a yellow ring with what looks to be a bird head(?)
- The Yellow Miraculous looks like a golden haircomb (the kind you wear on your hair as a decoration). You can see it a bit more clearly if you pause the video just as the box is about to close completely◊.
- The Korean airing of the Birth of Ladybug Part 1 gives us an even better view and it is, indeed, a golden haircomb and it seems to have a bee/wasp motif.
- If this is indeed a bee/wasp they are known for productivity and community. Perhaps how the character page has Chloé's Animal Motif listed as a bee should be kept in mind.
- As of October 2016, CONFIRMED
- The Yellow Miraculous looks like a golden haircomb (the kind you wear on your hair as a decoration). You can see it a bit more clearly if you pause the video just as the box is about to close completely◊.
- Orange Miraculous: The final piece of the display. Just like blue and yellow we don't know what the associated kwami is and not only that, perspective and angle makes it so we can't really get any idea on what the jewelry piece could be. Once again, if we go by the details the animatic show us then this Miraculous is also a ring but with a lion head on it. Given their status as King of the Animals lions are associated with authority, passion, and courage.
- Given the better view given in the Birth of Ladybug Part 1, it seems to look more like a fox tail. There is rumored to be a character called Volpina, so it could be theirs.
- The name "Volpina" does sound similar to the Latin term for foxes. If we are to hold onto this information then this individual if we are to see them is bound to have details of cleverness and adaptability.
- Since "Volpina" has been revealed to be an akuma, and her "miraculous" was clearly shown to be a store-bought piece of jewelry, it's probably safe to assume the real thing is still in Master Fu's possession for now (he was shown to have it in Origins). Whether a real user of that miraculous would look similar to Volpina is not clear, but it does indeed resemble a fox tail, as shown in Gabriel's book.
- Given the better view given in the Birth of Ladybug Part 1, it seems to look more like a fox tail. There is rumored to be a character called Volpina, so it could be theirs.
- Brown Miraculous: Another ring, looks like a bear head. Bears can be associated with power, benevolence, and motherhood.
- Black and White Miraculous: These are earrings and given their stripes all I can think is "zebra". Zebras are associated with being social and the ability to blend into their surroundings.
- Gray Miraculous: Another ring,looks like a bull head. Bulls are said to be strong and helpful.
- Red Miraculous: Another set of earrings but can't get an ideal species out of it.
The missing blue Miraculous belonged to Adrien's mother.She used to be a superheroine, but something went down related to it and she went missing. Gabriel is well aware of this, which is why he takes great measures to keep Adrien sheltered and has a notably surprised reaction when he recognizes his son's ring.
- WMG version 1: Assuming Gabriel is Hawk Moth, perhaps he used to be her partner (using Nooroo and the butterfly Miraculous), and is trying to get his hands on LB and CN's Miraculous in order to find/avenge her.
- WMG version 2: Assuming Gabriel isn't Hawk Moth, he's just a well-meaning but kind of terrible dad who has no idea how to reach out to his son and explain his mother's disappearance to him.
- Possibly confirmed. As of Volpina, the blue peacock miraculous has been shown stored in a secret safe in the Agreste mansion, located behind the portrait of Adrien's mother. Near the miraculous is a photo of her. This could imply that it belonged to her before she disappeared. Which version is more accurate is not yet clear, but Adrien has seen the miraculous (and possibly identified it using the book he took out of the safe), with Gabriel remaining unaware of this for now.
- Related to the above, Gabriel is Hawkmoth, but wasn't involved with the miraculous prior to Adrien's mother's disappearance. She was the "wrong choice" that Master Fu made, and after she died/abandoned her duties as a miraculous holder this drove Gabriel to learn about the miraculous and seek out the butterfly one. (Why the peacock one didn't work for him is unclear, but possibly it he left it alone out of respect for her.) If he was previously a miraculous holder, the exposition that Nooroo gave to him at the beginning of Ladybug and Cat Noir (Origins – Part 1) seems ludicrous, even invoking As You Know.
Lila will redeem herself...and eventually become the superheroine Volpina. Perhaps she'll have realized the error of her ways and eventually befriend our main characters. I have no justifications beside the fact that they put way too much into this character for her to just be a oneshot villain.
- While redemption is still entirely possible, her becoming the real Volpina seems to have been Jossed: as of October 2016, it's been confirmed that Alya will get the Fox Miraculous in Season 2.
Tikki and Plagg have a Fusion Dance.According to the Origins two-parter, the power of the ladybug and the black cat can be combined into Godlike might. Perhaps "combine" can be taken literally? Most likely, a fusion of the two kwamis will be the ultimate symbol of a creation-destruction cycle: The Phoenix, or the Chinese equivalent, the Fenghuang.
- Alternatively, Tikki and Plagg are a Literal Split Personality of an original kwami.
The pin in Mr. Agreste's safe is not a miraculous.Clearly Gabriel is hiding something huge, but if the jewel really is the peacock miraculous, a kwami would most likely realize it, even lazy, gluttonous Plagg. Also, if Gabriel really is Hawkmoth, why didn't the peacock miraculous work for him too?
- Even Plagg? He ignored the book and paid no attention to Adrien asking why the book would place Hawk Moth among heroes?
The Peacock Miraculous technically has both peacock and peahen forms depending the gender of the wearer.Because if you did not already know the fancy-tailed peacocks are all boys while there are also plainer colored female versions. Or perhaps there is just a peacock form and if the wearer is a girl then they are probably thought to be a boy to the public which could aid in the identity staying a bit more secret.
Gabriel Agreste is Hawkmoth, and Mrs. Agreste was the owner of the Peacock Miraculous.They knew the last generation of Ladybug and Cat and fought with them. Everyone but the turtle and butterfly Miraculous users died in some calamity. Gabriel demanded the god-like power of Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculous to bring Mrs. Agreste back to life, but this was taboo, so Master Fu hid the remaining Miraculous away from Gabriel. This is how Hawkmoth knew about Adrien and Marinette's Miraculous, and their combined power, from the beginning. How would he know about their god-like power if he'd never seen either of them before? This is also why Mrs. Agreste 'disappeared'. She really died, but her cause of death being the same as Peacock's would arouse suspicion, so he had to pretend she disappeared. Its also possible she died as Peacock in a way that destroyed her body. Finally, he created an Akuma that seems suspiciously similar to the theme of a known Miraculous. A fox-themed hero with a necklace. This indicates that he's likely taken inspiration from a possible former ally.
Gabriel Agreste is the Peacock Miraculous holder.The most common theory is that Mrs. Agreste used it before she disappeared, there are potential subtle bits of evidence to the contrary. 1. Despite the Peacock Girl trope, it is the male peafowl that have the vibrant colours and feathers the pin depicts. 2. Gabriel displays the symbolic temperament of a peacock by being well-dressed (famous fashion designer,) proud (would sooner face a dangerous villain than sully his honour,) and family-oriented (protective of Adrien to a destructive degree.) 3. In the family portrait in the mansion's dining room, Gabriel is wearing shades of blue. Not as solid as the other points perhaps, but it's something.
Kwamis can briefly adopted a human disguise.Because classic anime hijinks.
More Miraculous holders will appear in Season 2.Thoughtsnote on who could get what and why:
- Chloe has been noted to have a bee motif, so it would bee appropriate if she were to get the hair comb - assuming she undergoes serious Character Development, that is. As she is now, she'd bee an absolute disaster.
- This meta makes a good case for fox-wielder Alya and well as turtle-wielder Nino. Basically, the Miraculous trigger Character Development in people that need it — klutzy insecure Marinette is given the spirit of creation, allowing her to step up and showcase her responsible leader side, while composed rich kid Adrien is given the spirit of destruction, allowing him to let loose and run a little wild. Nino's youthful energy and anti-authoritarian thread make him a good match for the wisdom and protection of the turtle miraculous, while Alya's drive for truth and justice at all costs could be balanced by a miraculous bearing the powers of secrets and illusions. Having said that, Chloe could fit the bee miraculous, as they're all about diligence and teamwork, something Chloe seriously needs to learn.
- As of October 2016, Fox!Alya has been confirmed by the creators.
- Nino has been speculated to bee in line for the turtle Miraculous, presumably due to his protective qualities.note And because, well, he's a major character. The problem with this is, what would happen to Master Fu after he gave the bracelet up? Would he die right then?
- Another well-known theory for Nino is that he will get the peacock Miraculous, in part due to his design, which includes a blue shirt with an eye logo. Protection is also a symbol of the peacock, and Nino can be considered a visionary, being talented as a DJ and having enthusiasm for the short film he's directing in "Horrificator".
- A lot of people like to give Nathanaël the fox or peacock Miraculous, partially because he's a fan favorite and partially because he's already shown a desire to be a superhero - he even designed a persona! Granted, it was in the context of daydreaming about Marinette, but still. He was also probably the least evil akuma (until he felt betrayed), promising not to go after the girl responsible for his transformation simply because Marinette asked him not to.
- The problem with anyone getting the peacock Miraculous is, of course, how? It's locked up in Gabriel's safe, so unless Master Fu is secretly a cat burglar, it's doubtful that anyone's going to get it any time soon.
- Alternatively, going off the "Miraculouses respond to the Character Development people need" theory, Julika seems like a plausible fit for the Peacock Miraculous, considering that the entire reason she got akumatized was because she felt invisible and unnoticed.
- Lila could also undergo Character Development and earn the fox Miraculous. She got quite a bit of characterization for a one-shot villain, and it would make Volpina quite ironic.
- This one seems to have been Jossed: Alya will be getting the Fox Miraculous, so this particular one seems unlikely.
- Sabrina might be a possible owner for the moth Miraculous after Hawk Moth is defeated. Her outfit has a lot of purple, she already wears a bow tie — the form of the moth Miraculous when it's transformed — and she lines up with the butterfly/moth's theme of transformation, as she could learn to be more confident and make new friends outside of Chloé. Additionally, she and Nooroo have a lot in common personality-wise, so they could make a good team together.
Kwamis CAN rebel against their masters.If the Miraculouses are not meant to be used for evil, maybe the jewels have something of a failsafe? Of course for it to work, the kwami would have to possess the will to reject the holder, which adds a layer of substance to Nooroo's enslavement. Then again, it all leads back to the mystery of just what exactly the kwamis are and the extant of their personal power.
- If that's true, Nooroo's revolt will take place during a Near Villain Victory moment.
Power-Up Food guesses for Outer Kwamis.
- grape juice
- flower petals
- nuts esp. pistachios
- Bee Kwami
- eggs esp. hardboiled
Adrien has interacted with kwamis before.Even if Adrien was bored and stifled with his lifestyle pre-Chat Noir, his reaction to the sudden manifestation of a bug-eyed sprite was unbelievably casual. If it is true that Adrien's parents are or were heroes themselves as widely theorized, then it is conceivable that he grew up privy to their secret identities and kwamies. Unfortunately, when Mrs. Agreste disappeared via an incident related to the Miraculouses, Gabriel decided it was too dangerous for Adrien to know about his lineage any longer. He had all his son's memories of magic suppressed, either by his own powers or with another's help (maybe even Master Fu.) Despite the Laser-Guided Amnesia, Adrien still knew what Plagg was on a subconscious level, explaining the lack of fright during their first encounter, and a natural affinity with Cat Noir's powers.
The Outer Miraculouses correspond to the five Chinese elements.Since the Ladybug earrings and the Black Cat ring are obviously Yin and Yang...
- The Fox pendant is dynamic Fire
- The Bee comb is empathic Earth
- The Turtle bracelet is strong Metal
- The Peacock pin is wise Water
- The Butterfly brooch is generous Wood
Kwamis can sense the presence of other kwamis when they use their powers, but not when they are dormant and nearby.Nooroo told hawkmoth that the Ladybug and Cat Noir miraculous had been lost ... while they were actually nearby in Paris. Also, if kwamis could feel each other's presence, Plagg and Tikki would have noticed each other by now.
- Alternitively, kwamis do sense each other's presence but can choose to to not reveal it to their masters. Nooroo kept the location of Plagg and Tikki secret in an act of defiance against being misused, and Plagg and Tikki don't reveal each other's presence out of respect of Marinette's and Adrien's secrecy.
- What’s more, if the above theory about the Miraculouses being the Chinese elements is true, The Medic goes beyond symbolism of the animal. Earth associates with nourishment of soil and stability of land. It’s the Team Mom of the five elements, for which healing would be the spot-on Personality Powers.
The Miraculous Peacock hero's weapon is a Flechette Storm.Bonus if they actually look like Feather Flechettes. The knives are either limitless or go up to between 150 to 200, the maximum number of feathers in an adult peacock's train.
Specific Miraculouses go to people with specific traits,Traits the corresponding animals are associated with. For example, the peacock would traditionally mesh well with creators of beauty, e.g. artists and poets, and the bee would go to someone with a strong influence on the populace, like nobility or civil servants.
Ladybug's earrings and Cat Noir's ring are meant to be physically combined.The two earrings fit inside the shank of the ring to create one jewel, like a Dismantled MacGuffin. Besides, if Hawk Moth eventually took the Heroes' Miraculouses, we will be spared watching the Narm of the threatening villain being this close to victory while wearing ladybug-printed earrings.
The powers of the Peacock Miraculous are vision-based.The design on a peacock's feathers are reminiscent of eyes, making the bird a common symbol for insight. A most likely candidate is seeing the future, and applying it as Combat Clairvoyance. Other power tropes include X-Ray Vision, True Sight, and Seeing Through Another's Eyes.
The real power of the Fox Miraculous is transformation.Besides casting illusions, Shapeshifting is a magic closely associated with the Kitsune, which, if Volpina is anything to go on, is the primary inspiration for the fox superhero.
The Miraculouses are Mani Jewels.According to the contents of Mr. Agreste's safe, Tibet is going to be part of the answer to several mysteries. In Tibetan Buddhism, there are objects similar to the Miraculouses: the mysterious Mani. It is unclear what the Mani are exactly, but certain traditions describe them as relics with divine magic. If this has a grain of truth, the Ladybug and Black Cat Miraculouses could be dismantled pieces of the wish-granting Chintamani, the Eastern equivalent to the Philosopher's Stone.
The transformation phrase for who turns into Bee-themed Miraculous user to turning is the following:
- French: Transform, me!
- Korean: Transform, Bee!
- English: "[Bee-looking Kwami's name], Buzz On!"
Evil Miraculouses and/or Kwamis exist.They are the jewels seen in the animatic but not used in the cartoon; The Ouroboros armband in particular seems malevolent. Either the power of the jewel could not be safely controlled, or the respective kwami pulled a Face–Heel Turn and corrupted their chosen wielder.
- The Miraculouses don't have any sentinence to be able to be good or evil by themselves. Only the Kwamis. If Evil Kwamis exist, one of them will be found by a wielder who'll use his/her power for good in contrast to how Hawk Moth uses Nooroo's power for evil.
Ladybug's earrings and Cat Noir's ring are the only Miraculouses with timers.To balance out the surplus of power. The outer jewels must still have some sort of limit to how much magic is used in one stage, but there is no involuntary detransformation.
There are Miraculouses for each animal of the Chinese Zodiac.Decorating the chest owned by Master Fu for holding Miraculouses, there are twelve gold buttons, each having a Chinese symbol. From the sides that can be seen and translated so far, each button appears to list an animal from the Chinese zodiac, like rat, tiger, and monkey. Also, Jeremy Zag revealed in an interview that the chest has more than one floor. Chinese Zodiac-themed Miraculouses could very likely be meant to be stored in another floor or more that we have yet to see.
Aurore (AKA Stormy Weather) will become a Miraculous user on the side of goodAs of the end of Season One, nearly every single student in Adrien and Marinette's class has been akumatized. In the episode "Reflekta", there is a brief scene in which another class is having their picture taking. This class included Mireille and Aurore. By making a member of that class into a Miraculous User, the second season can begin focusing on students from that class as potential future villains. In addition, Aurore appeared to be the only one who even noticed the Akuma butterfly flying toward her, let alone the only one who tried to fight one off. This is foreshadowing that there's more to her than meets the eye.
The Miraculous transformation can alter a person's physical appearance.Aside from the current fashion, a Miraculous wielder's costume depends on what they think a hero would look like. So, the effect is that they become the ideal version of themselves, both in costume and in body. Of course, neither Ladybug nor Cat Noir are especially insecure about their looks; Marinette is more inside-oriented, and Adrien at least messes up his hair to symbolize the desire to live more wild and freely. However, if Gabriel Agreste is Hawk Moth, this concept explains how his villainous alter ego is taller, more muscular, paler and has better teeth.
Adrien and Marinette's Identities
The more Adrian and Marinette get to know each other, the more risk they have of being discovered.
- Eventually, Adrian or Marinette will end up getting caught in a lie and their identity will be revealed. And of course the only way that could happen is if one of them knows the other personally, so it won't take much work to figure out that identity.
The cycle of unrequited love is a result of Chat Noir's and Ladybug's bad/good luck powers.Chat Noir is infatuated with Ladybug, but his bad luck makes it so that he can't recognize her without her costume, making her more inaccessible. Marinette is infatuated with this blonde guy at school - but his bad luck makes it so that he doesn't recognize her out of costume and just considers her annoying.note Her luck powers, however, compensate by making him infatuated with her in-costume - even if she's too besotted with the blonde guy at school to take notice. Basically, it's a cycle...sort of.
Adrien and Marinette will learn of each other's identities and get together.Seriously, they might as well have a big sign over them saying "FOREGONE CONCLUSION".
- Not so much as you might think, all things considered they wouldn't actually make a good couple, Adrien is in love with Marinette's serious and no nonsense ladybug persona, he seems to like her for being presumably a more experienced hero, he's in love with an invented identity. On the flipside, Marinette is in love with Adrien, because he's a nice guy who is mature and polite; however, Adrien only lets his real personality out when acting as Cat Noir, with the mature and polite identity, being fake, so she, like him, is in love with an invented identity. If both of them realize that the object of their affections is simply a mask to deal with matters of circumstance, won't the become disillusioned with the world around them?
Not everything about their identities will be revealed to Marinette and Adrien in one go.Specifically, Marinette will figure out that Adrien is Cat Noir and/or Adrien will figure out Marinette is Ladybug, but they won't tell the other that they know. This dynamic will of course keep things fresh for a new season.
Cat Noir figured out Ladybug's identity in "Evillustrator"
- In the episode proper, he gets annoyed when Ladybug leaves him on protection duty since the person he's protecting is Chloe, and assigns him then to follow "Marinette" while she goes on a date with the titular villain. During said date Marinette gets Cat Noir and her out of a box with a Ladybug-like idea and shows no fear, which Adrien comments on the next day before class. He also asks Marinette what she thinks of Cat Noir and is surprised when she tells him that he is more awesome than Cat several times. Adrien also pats her shoulder, which is a step up from her Gibberish of Love in his presence. Bad luck or not, Adrien may have simply put the pieces together with Something Only They Would Say, Ladybug's appearance, and Marinette showing off that she is a Badass Normal.
- Adrien has also revealed that while he wants to know Ladybug's identity, he wants to respect her wishes for the Mutual Masquerade and thus doesn't know how to bring up the subject. The only solution for him is to get to know Marinette outside of Ladybug form, and convince her to loosen up.
- In subsequent episodes, Adrien goes out of his way to spend time with Marinette; in "Kung Food" he volunteers as a translator for her uncle, tells off Chloe for being a Politically Incorrect Villain, and in "The Gamer" suggests that they practice for the competition at her house. In the latter episode he drops his Stepford Smiler demeanor around her and admits that he doesn't think he's as cool as she is and pulls her out of the Gamer's line of fire the way Cat did in "Stormy Weather" and in Cat guise assures her that Adrien is safe.
The Gorilla knows Adrien is Chat Noir.Still waters run deep, and you don't get anymore still than his type.
Jagged Stone suspects that Marinette is Ladybug. At least in the French version, he's supposed to be American, and American comic books codified certain superhero tropes that are in full play on this show. When Chloe and Sabrina were LARPing Ladybug and Chat Noir in "Antibug", he's the only one to point out that "Ladybug"'s hair is the wrong length and color (when Adrien seems to initially buy it in "Lady Wifi"). Not to mention that he's worked extensively with both Ladybug and Marinette in "Guitar Villain" and "Pixelator"; in the latter she even brings him to her school as Ladybug.
Both Marinette and Adrien will get a Secret Keeper in Season 2Most obvious would be Alya becoming Marinette's Secret Keeper and Nino becoming Adrien's, resulting in the two of them covering for the heroes' absences. An interesting variation to the theme would be Nino becoming Marinette's Secret Keeper and Alya Adrien's which would also require them to make excuses to their best friends. A final possibility would be Alya discovering bot Marinette's and Adrien's secret identity resulting in hijinks while she tries to polish Ladybug's opinion of Cat Noir and improve Adrien's feelings for Marinette.
Without knowing, Adrien is/was training to be a superhero.This is all banking on the theory that Mr. and Mrs. Agreste were secretly Miraculous holders, but, seriously, the boy does fencing, karate, and is almost fluent in the language most associated with the Miraculous? There has got to be more to read into here.
Adrien has Mixed Ancestry.The fact that he's a Dark-Skinned Blond makes this troper suspicious. It would probably be from Gabriel's side of the family, as they both have an olive undertone Mrs. Agreste lacks.
Someone will figure out their identities from the fact Marinette and Adrien are the only kids at school that have never been akumatized.It'll start with the character deciding to ask Marinette when her turn comes.
No one recognizes Adrien or Marinette because the miraculouses affect people's ability to recognize them.Our two heroes are incapable of recognizing one another but they recognize akumatized victims fairly easily so being a full-powered miraculous wielder must have additional benefits in comparison to one merely bestowed abilities.
There will be a significant amount of time between when Marinette or Adrien figure out the other's identity and when the reverse happens.Specifically, there will be anywhere between 10 minutes and 6 episodes between when one knows and when both know. The writers would be insane not to milk out the "knows his/her identity" drama but doing it for too long would get old quickly.
There were several instances where Parisian security cameras recorded Marinette and Adrien transforming/de-transforming.But considering their young age and the importance of keeping their identity secret, the government decided to put Ladybug and Chat Noir's identity under "Secret Défense"/Official Secrecy, which means anyone who tries to reveal their identity could face a severe prison sentence.
- We've seen them transform several times in the Metro, and it's pretty much impossible to have a spot in the Parisian Metro that isn't camera'd. (Over 9500 cameras.)
If a Season 2 is made, there will be an episode about the November 2015 Paris terrorist attacks.Given the nature of this show however, it's extremely unlikely, plus, even then, it would still be Too Soon.
- I was more thinking that they'd put a situation in the show that, although it's not like the Paris attacks, would seem like a serious situation for Ladybug and Cat Noir. Most likely, I think there should be an episode about loss or (the most likely situation), there can be an episode with a new, strong villain who is a serious threat to Paris. Eventually, he defeats Ladybug and Chat Noir, causing them to loose their powers, which reveals Adrien and Marinette's superhero identities to each other, and Marinette and Adrien have to work together to get their powers back.
- The Darkblade episode had a few noteworthy coincidences with the tragedy. A group dressed in black, motivated by rage at a French politician and by a belief in how things should be ruled, storm an event featuring an American rock musician. This episode first aired in South Korea a half week after the attacks. The parallels were so noticeable so soon after, that it could only be a big coincidence or an intentional episode selection meant as a tribute.
Someone will learn Ladybug's secret in second season.That "I have a secret that no one know yet" line sounds too suspicious.
- Alya seems like the most likely choice, considering how much she and Ladybug are interacting via Alya's blog. Considering that Alya will also be getting a Miraculous in Season 2, they might even end up being mutual Secret Keepers.
There will be a Gaia's Avenger akuma villain.It's a very common motivation for destruction.
There will be an episode or two involving the multiverse.And among the universes will include an alternate Adrien named Felix, and an Akuma!Marinette.
- Or, combining the two ideas, Felix will be the one to get Akumatized.
Gabriel Agreste's crazy overprotectiveness will be explored.Picture this for an episode plot: Adrien is going to model in a fashion show for his father's newest line when an akuma strikes on the other side of Paris. After brief consideration, he decides to skip the show. There will be many more just like it, right? After LB and CN win the day, Adrien returns, fully expecting no-one to have cared about his absence. However, he sees that Gabriel is freaking out and has called a small squadron of police officers to go on a manhunt for Adrien. At the sight of his son, Gabriel runs to his side and tells Adrien how worried he was, even though he was only gone for just over an hour. Adrien isn't sure how to feel, seeing Gabriel in this new light.
- Partially jossed. It was explored but during a Christmas Episode where Adrien runs away and thinks his father won't care. It has nothing to do with a missed show or an akuma attack.
Chloé will have a Jerkass Realization.Specifically, it will dawn on the Alpha Bitch just how much Being Evil Sucks. It will happen something like this: Chloé announces that she will be throwing a party, most likely for her birthday, and starts tempting her classmates to jump through hoops for an invitation. Naturally, she ignores everyone's complaints about being baited like dogs, until Adrien, who's already having a bad day, is finally pushed to the brink and essentially tells his semi-friend to get over herself. At the party, Chloé is shocked to find that, aside from Sabrina and her father's employees, NO-ONE shows up. At first, she decides that she didn't want the riffraff at her party anyway, but she eventually gets sick of hearing nothing but "Whatever you want, Chloé." and starts thinking that maybe it's better to be around real people rather than sycophants. All this will be the first step on her road to Character Development.
- Or she might get confronted by someone who's an even bigger Alpha Bitch than she is, only in a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing way. This girl shows up at school and at first, Chloe thinks the world of her, even if she's got the odd habit of treating her "inferiors" well...until the new girl goes on a date with Adrien, that eventually spins into several dates. Furious that someone would steal her Adrien, Chloe does some digging and discovers that the new girl is blackmailing Adrien, stumbling upon them having an argument that makes what she's doing clear without giving away what her dirt is (as it would probably be him being Chat Noir). Chloe tries to get help but no one believes her since Chloe has been her normal self and the new girl has been treating everyone sweetly. Desperate, Chloe ends up going to Marinette who only believes her for Adrien's sake and makes that clear. Chloe ends up gaining respect for Marinette and even has the beginning of a Heel Realization about her constant fawning over Adrien since it's becoming quite clear that he's not interested in her romantically.
- Or, she gets a Miraculous (like the bee) and after the first few times she slowly realizes the Akumas are all people she annoyed/insulted earlier. It may take a bit, but she will soon realize almost everything with the akumas is her fault, or at least she contributes heavily and that will cause her Heel–Face Turn . After all, fighting classmates personally and watching them detransform is different from cheering Ladybug on from afar.
Gabriel has a Inferiority Superiority ComplexIn the fine tradition of Uptown Girl, Gabriel grew up poor and his wife came from Old Money. Feeling self-conscious about his humble origins in comparison, Gabriel strived to become the wealthy, sophisticated man he considered worthy of his then-girlfriend. Clearly, he succeeded and became the Self-Made Man he is today. Sadly, now that his love is not around to remind him how she couldn’t give a flapdoodle how powerful, important or rich her husband is, Gabriel’s psychological need to be the "best" version of himself is getting worse.
Many events from season 1 will get more attention in next seasonAlya dating Nino, Marinette becoming class president, Adrien's lucky bracelet he got from Marinette...all these were used only once on purpose, since season 1 tried to have as little continuity as possible, since all countries aired episodes in different order.
Lila will become a recurring villainLila's notably the only akuma victim who doesn't show a single drop of remorse for her actions, so maybe she'll join up with Hawk Moth in taking down Ladybug. A henchman who actually works in the field (instead of purely Orcus on His Throne like Hawk Moth) could spice things up next season (plus she could get a redemption arc ala Zuko).
- It would be interesting to see an accomplice to Hawkmoth who willingly accepts the power the Akuma gives them. These individuals probably wouldn't become Brainwashed and Crazy. She'd also work in secret for a while, using her mirage powers but never being so obvious as when she was Akumatised, allowing for her to maintain a public life.
- If Lila not does Heel–Face Turn, she will takes Hawk Moth's Big Bad position.
Lila wanted to become AkumaShe's real goal was to get Ladybug and Cat Noir's Miraculous. But not for Hawk Moth.
- Her lie was the part of the plan.
Season 2 will have a more linear narrativeSeason 1 was great at worldbuilding and establishing the character dynamics, but its back five episodes drew on way too many plot threads that would have to be resolved in a linear fashion next season.
Nathalie and Mrs. Agreste were friends.The disappearance of Adrien's mother greatly effected her husband and son's lives for the worse. Why not assistant Nathalie as well, depending on how long she has been in the Agrestes' employment. It would give new meaning to her name, Sancoeur, meaning "heartless." Is an aloof disposition her natural state, or has she just lost the person who was her heart?
Chloé dyes her hair.So she can undergo a Expository Hairstyle Change during or after a Heel–Face Turn.
Sabrina will get some real friends.While there was an attempt to get her away from Chloé in "Evillustrator," all Sabrina did was try to make Marinette her new leader. So an alternate route will eventually be explored: Sabrina enters a group without Chloe for an assignment, (probably Rose and Juleka, to invoke Blonde, Brunette, Redhead,) and she will be rendered unable to choose a temporary Chloé. Sabrina discovers new interests and the joy of friendship on equal footing. Even if she returns to Chloé's side in the end — because without her, the Alpha Bitch will have no-one at all — Status Quo Is God will still be averted, because she goes back with a mind of her own, and, hopefully, a nicer outfit.
One of Hawk Moth's villains will turn against him.While most of Hawk Moth's victims never or don't come close to getting the Miraculouses, one of the new ones may just succeed and try to take them for him/herself. This could lead to Hawk Moth going into the open, or a backfire on whatever villain that may be.
Rose is a Grade Skipper.I don't know how the French collège curriculum works, but Rose's design and innocence make her seem younger than her classmates.
Félix Agreste will make an appearance...sort of.In an expository flashback, we will see a teen Gabriel Agreste, who will be a dead ringer for Félix. As a possible bonus, if the theory that Gabriel was holder of the peacock miraculous is true, his costume will take cues from the original Chat Noir.
Lila is the daughter of a supervillain.What's more perfect to surprise a Consummate Liar than finding out she said an Accidental Truth? Only her true lineage is much nastier than her fake one. Seeing superheroes have returned to the world, one of Lila's parents, who is another Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, will decide to come out of retirement, dust off their Wrong Context Magic, and go head to head with Ladybug and Chat Noir. Even if Lila has some fun being Daddy's Little Villain when first learning of her parent's secret identity, she soon realizes that he or she wants to hurt people For the Evulz, something she is NOT okay with. Lila breaks her ties with her villainous ancestry, pulls a Heel–Face Turn, and teams up with the heroes to stop her mother or father. Potentially, this can be the redemption that proves Lila worthy of the real fox Miraculous.
- Or her ancestor really did posses the fox Miraculous at some point. It could be why she was so interested in the book, and why she seemed to really snap when Ladybug said she was lying about it.
Lila's parents are freshly divorced.While her being the daughter of diplomats and constantly moving around already serve as a Freudian Excuse for a need to be the centre of attention, there is also the chance that Lila rarely got enough attention from her parents because they were always too busy fighting with each other until finally splitting up. Since this sounds like a potential Wounded Gazelle Gambit, Lila could admit to her family's dysfunction in a moment of weakness, but her classmates just think she is Crying Wolf and refuse to show sympathy. This will also cause yet another Lila/Volpina divide among the fans: those who feel sorry for Lila's situation, and those who believe she got what she deserved.
The basis for Chloé's crush on Adrien.We have no idea why or for how long Chloé's mother has been out of the picture, but say that it's been much longer than the four or five years since Adrien's mother disappeared, around kindergarten or grade school. As a little girl who had everything in life besides a mother figure, Chloé quickly latched onto the sweet, beautiful mother of her friend Adrien. So much so that she declared her intentions to grow up and marry Adrien so his mother would become hers. Being the Spoiled Brat she is, Chloé immaturely holds onto her childhood dream even though the true object of her desire has vanished.
There will be an Unfortunate Item Swap.According to Word of God, Gabriel Agreste has a line of accessories that resemble the Miraculouses. Someone (likely either Chloé for the bee comb or Lila for the fox pendant) will inadvertently switch one of said pieces of jewelry for a real Miraculous.
Juleka has musical talent.Her concept art wears a guitar case anyway.
Lila will replace Chloé as resident Alpha Bitch.Whether or not Lila deliberately usurps her, or Chloé is knocked off her high horse and gains some humbling Character Development, then Lila takes her place in the power vacuum.
- In her concept art, Lila has sunglasses similar to Chloé's on her head. Perhaps Lila will start wearing them as a symbolic crown, while Chloé gives her own up?
Felix was Adrien's predecessor.Thomas Astruc has said he wants to bring Felix back at some point, and having him appear in an episode as an ex-Cat Noir would be a neat way of fitting him in while also being able to explore the downside of Cat Noir's powers, which the show hasn't really done.
- He's Master Fu's mistake. He used his powers for evil until his time's Ladybug defeated him or Plagg revolted once he ran out of stinky cheese. Now he wants to find out the current Cat Noir's identity so he can reclaim the ring.
Lila is of Mixed Ancestry.While confirmed to be of Italian nationality, she probably has some Maltese in her blood. One of the roots of her name is the common Arabic name "Layla" at least.
Master Fu will eventually Ascend to a Higher Plane of Existence.Given that turtles have lifespans lasting over a century, and are therefore a symbol of longevity, being keeper of the Turtle bracelet is likely the reason Fu has lived for 180+ years. Deciding to pass on his Miraculous to another goes hand in hand with deciding that his time has come. To keep it from being too depressing, Fu will probably act as a Spirit Advisor on occasion.
Only one of Lila's parents is a diplomat.The other has a different career that also drags them around the globe, like an anthropologist or a downplayed example of Adventurer Archaeologist.
There will be a comedic Power Incontinence episode.Ladybug and Cat Noir's powers (and those of other heroes if they have been chosen by then) will hit a spike and undergo a kind of puberty/rite of passage, but the luck magic will bleed into their alter egos; Marinette becomes a living good luck charm, and Adrien becomes The Jinx to himself and those around him.
- Alternatively they're already this, but being so near to eachother since getting the powers has caused it to balance out and noone has noticed.
Villains from a past generation will appear.New baddies have to take the stage after Hawk Moth's defeat, preferably ones that can pose an even bigger threat. If Adrien's parents were Miraculous Heroes, the prospective new villain would be from their Rogues Gallery, and is at least a major reason for why they were always so overprotective of their son.
- That generation's Hawk Moth is a good guy like the one from Gabriel's book.
Master Fu's Mistake.It wasn't that someone given a Miraculous turned out to be a lapse in judgement on the guardian's part, but that the intended recipient was a poor decision. As usual, Fu placed the Miraculous where his chosen one would find it, but it was picked up by another, likely someone close to the intended. However it turned out that his choice was The Chosen Zero and would have been easily corrupted by the power, and The Unchosen One was a better decision all along.
- I'm going to have to take you back a step here. This scenario seems like a rather fortunate mistake given the good turnout that you have presented, but Master Fu was very clear in the Origins Episode when he said that this mistake is one he wouldn't want repeated. If there is anything that could logically be said about this scenario it is very best-case and this kind of turnout is something worth hoping for if he got it wrong and is nothing to be ashamed of given the payoff.
If Chloé gets a Miraculous, she will undergo a deconstruction of Ascended Fanboy.Evidenced by her hardcore LARPing and delusions of invincibility, Chloé would leap at the chance to fight evil at Ladybug’s side. However, her dream come true becomes too much to handle when a combination of petty reasons (dislike of the costume or powers) and inability to keep up with the physical and emotional taxation pushes her to call it quits after a handful of missions. If she keeps the jewel, this will eventually be reconstructed when the situation is dire enough to convince Chloé to realize her obligation and makes a greater effort this time.
- Along the lines of this theory, it's possible that she'll try to make Sabrina her sidekick. Of course, since Sabrina doesn't have a Miraculous, she's completely unable to keep up, eventually causing her to abandon Chloé. This could be one of the things that triggers Chloé to finally pull herself back into the fight.
- She'll probably try to buy a Miraculous for Sabrina.
- Chloé will finally learn she's not so loved as she thinks. Not knowing it's her, Ladybug and/or Cat Noir will say how likely it's her fault the Monster of the Week got akumatized and bring up other occasions it was her fault. Also, her own kwami will have a headache trying to be The Conscience for her like Tikki is for Marinette.
Marinette committed some slight against Chloé in the past.Chloé is generally insufferable to everyone around her, but it's clear that she consciously tries to torment Marinette. It is possible that the time they first came into contact around four years ago, Marinette innocently did or said something that angered Chloé enough to declare vengeance, and she has never realized. Of course, it's still Chloé's fault for being petty enough to hold the grudge for this long, but if Marinette learns of what happened and has the humility to apologize for it, it could be the start of the girls mending their fences.
Each miraculous can act as a fail-safe to another miraculous.The miraculous have a rock-paper-scissors thing going on out of the ones Fu has collected, so should someone go rogue (i.e. Papillion) there is someone who can beat them, and the miraculous that can purify corrupt akumas is the ladybug. Furthermore, should Ladybug have ended up misusing her powers Chat Noir would have been able to disarm her by using cataclysm on lucky charm. Then there's a miraculous that can beat him and so on until it comes back to Papillion.
Shambhala will be featured.Tibet is going to eventually be featured, and it's unlikely that a chance to go to the holy kingdom of Tibeten myths will be passed over.
There will be a "What Do They Fear?" Episode.A psychologist, possibly the school shrink, has their professional opinion ignored, is akumatized, and the resulting villain traps people with hidden issues and fears is a world of their worst nightmare. The only way out, naturally, is to Face Your Fears.
- This is a good way to reveal information about Adrien's mother, and at least hint to or at most divulge Freudian Excuses for characters like Chloé and Lila.
André Bourgeois will lose his position as mayor.Not only is the man implied to be a Sleazy Politician, the events of "Rogercop" show that he doesn't shy away from abusing his power. Granted, he'll probably get to keep the hotel, but it will cause Chloé to lose the connections that let her get away with so many offences. Depending on how much he's found out to have embezzled, he might lose even the hotel. Either way, it'll probably make him vulnerable to akumatization.
A key part of Chloé's redemption arc will be a reunion with her Missing Mom.Mrs. Bourgeois has been absent ever since essentially abandoning Chloé at a young age, but she makes an unexpected appearance in an episode with the declaration of wanting to reconnect. Unfortunately, this is all revealed to be a ruse: Her mother was and still is an egotistic Gold Digger who married André in the first place because, like with their daughter, he has always catered to her every whim, and she's back to exploit money, political influence or publicity. Even if she has some maternal love for Chloé, it's not enough to make the woman want to change her ways. Chloé will be struck with the painful realization that her mother is precisely what she is in danger of becoming, so she rips the bi-atch a new one for being so selfish and manipulative, and starts taking the steps to ensure she never falls so low.
- Alternatively, Chloé will be overcome with hurt upon realizing the kind of woman her mother is and breaks down crying. If Marinette can be witness to this, it would turn her perception of Chloé right on its head.
If Mrs. Agreste returns, she and Gabriel will eventually have a second child.What few details that have been released say the Agrestes are/were Happily Married, and it is heavily implied that hypothetical Gabirel-as-Hawkmoth's motivation is his wife's return. Besides, how amazing would Adrien would be as a big brother?
Master Fu has descendants.Wielding a Miraculous doesn't appear to carry a vow of celibacy, given an important plot line in the show, so a man pushing his 200s can easily have some great-grandkids. One of them will become a villain.
Lila comes from a rich, or possibly aristocratic family.How else could a middle schooler just pop into a jeweller's and buy a specific necklace, especially as said jewel is from a line of accessories created by posh designer, Gabriel Agreste? The only trait verging on a hint to aristocracy however, is that Lila has a Hime Cut, a symbol for upper-class girls in anime, and this is a heavily anime-inspired show.
Agreste is a Nom de Mom.Tying to the theory that Gabriel and his missing wife were a case of Uptown Girl while courting, Gabriel was from a much lower class than his wife and among the concessions marrying her required, taking her family name was one of them.
As a young Battle Couple, Gabriel and his wife were the reverse of LB and CN.It's a common aspect within the "The Agrestes are in previous Miraculous holder generation" theory: Gabriel was in love with his classmate, while the future Mrs. Agreste was head over heels for her superhero partner.
- If the above "Nom de Mom" theory and the Uptown Girl theory are true, it's probably even for the same reason as LB and CN's interactions. Adrien's future mom was the girl with everything except someone who cared for her for her and her partner provided that in the same way LB does for CN while Gabriel kept getting tongue-tied around Miss Perfect.
Cat Noir was fighting the mind control in Dark Cupid.During the mind control, he talks in the exact same manner the entire time, except for when Dark Cupid offers to help him destroy Ladybug. For a moment, he drops to his normal manner of speaking to briefly say no, before going back to speaking like he was before and accepting the offer. Also, when he's fighting Ladybug alone, he says things that if you swap one word, would sound like a long drawn out confession of love. Like switching "loath" with love in "I loathe you".
One episode will feature a genie.Plagg's reply in the Origins Episode when Adrien assumed him to be one shows that they exist in the series. The troubles caused by the wishes will make Adrien realize Plagg's right about being better than genies.
Season 2 will start where "Volpina" ended.The first episode will start with Marinette still recovering from the shock that Master Fu not only knows she's Ladybug but also is the one who gave her the earrings.
Ladybug will develop a crush on Cat Noir, and Adrien develops a crush on Marinette, but they still don't know each other's identities.The annoying Love Square is taken to the next level!
In the series finale, Hawkmoth will get his hands on Ladybug's and Chat Noir's miraculouses...And he will toss off the Butterfly miraculous as being inferior to the powers of creation and destruction. Marinette will find the discarded miraculous and proceed to give a speech about how she and Chat Noir didn't win the day because of their powers, but because of teamwork. She will then put on Hawkmoth's miraculous and re-akumatize all the previous akuma victims, asking them all to help capture Ladybug and Chat Noir's miraculouses from Hawkmoth. Cue epic fight scene with cameos galore.
- If it happens, Alia will become Majestia instead of resuming her Lady Wifi form.
Gabriel Agreste was born and raised in a rural area.The surname already suggests it. One episode will reveal that Gabriel left for the big city to pursue his dream of becoming a fashion designer and estranged himself from his family because they didn't agree with his ambitions.
Chloé will obtain the Bee Miraculous completely by accident.It looks like just an ordinary hair comb, so it's possible it could fall into her possession by mistake. Alternatively, Master Fu might mistake her for a nice person after seeing her do one nice thing, whether it was by accident or not.
The Mayor will remarry.Chloé will be so upset that her "wicked" stepmother refuses to spoil her.
Someone will call Chloé out on how most akumatized victims are her fault.She'll not only deny responsibility but also bring up those that weren't her fault like Mr. Pigeon and bring up those who became vulnerable for losing competitions. She'll ask whose fault those were: the losers themselves for not accepting defeat or their adversaries for winning. She'll sarcastically ask if people should stop holding competitions out of fear Hawk Moth will akumatize everyone who loses.
- This will lead to an uneasy Jerkass Has a Point moment before Sabrina calls her out by asking one simple question: "So how was it my fault you decided I was invisible and I got upset that my friend would reject my apology?". As Chloe sputters, trying to pass off blame, the rest of the class will be emboldened to call her out about mistreating them, some incidents causing akumas and others just causing her and ultimately someone, possibly Alya, will suggest that a club for people who were akumatized because of Chloe be formed and when Chloe wails that she'll sic her daddy on them, Adrien, for the first time, will properly call her out, telling her he's sick of her treating everyone who isn't him this way and that they can't be friends anymore. When she wails about why, he replies "Because my friend Chloe is better than this; it's a shame she's forgotten that."