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They Changed It Now It Sucks: Music
Call me a relic, call me what you will
Say I'm old-fashioned, say I'm over the hill
Today's music ain't got the same soul
I like that old time rock and roll.
Bob Seger, "Old Time Rock & Roll"

Note: This article lists examples which take place within fandoms; not TV Tropes' opinion as to whether a change is for the worse. TV Tropes doesn't have opinions. The focus is on over-reaction about minor changes.
  • This will happen just about any time that a band changes its lead vocalist.
  • There will be members of any fan base who react this way to a band's new album. Double if it's a New Sound Album.
  • This audience reaction can also occur when the image of an artist changes, even if the music is mostly the same. This is common when an innocent teen pop star sexualises their image as they 'mature', which can alienate a lot of fans that liked them for who they were up to that point. This has happened with Britney Spears, Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera, Miley Cyrus and many others.
  • This can happen to any independent artist or band who signs to a major record label and then changes their sound to be more mainstream.
  • Bob Dylan: The Ur Example in popular music. Acoustic to Electric with Bringin' it All Back Home. As The Other Wiki will tell you, this was Serious Business. Please note: this is They Changed It, Now It Sucks that warrants a (fairly long and extremely well-sourced) article on The Other Wiki. His 1979 conversion to Christianity and the resulting Slow Train Coming album led to a similar backlash.
  • In a deleted scene from "The Beatles Anthology" documentary, the surviving Beatles(Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr) reunite and reminisce about the first time they met their idol Elvis Presley in 1965. George said he met him again backstage at one of his concerts in the early 70s when he was in his full white cape and jumpsuit wearing glory. While he was awestruck again he didn't like the female backup singers and horn section he now performed with on tour. George said he wished he would have told Elvis: "Just get your jeans on, get your guitar and sing 'That's All Right Mama' and bugger all that other crap!"
    • Ironic considering George Harrison was notorious as someone who wanted to leave his past as a Beatle behind and if a Beatles fan told him he should go reunite with the other Beatles, go back to wearing suits and moptop hair and sing "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" again Harrison would have responded with a "F—k off!"
  • Angels & Airwaves was pretty much doomed to this from the beginning. The band was formed by Blink182 frontman Tom Delonge soon after Blink's breakup, and it was meant to be his next big project. Disgruntled Blink fans, still angry about the beloved band breaking up, formed a pretty sizable Hatedom once they realized that Angels & Airwaves wasn't Blink 182 2.0.
  • The Human League began as a very dark synth band whose songs rarely featured any instrumentation but stark synths and vocals. After the band's second album came out, the band's singer Phil Oakey wanted to play pop music but Martyn Ware did not want to, he fired him kicked him out. Ian Craig Marsh followed him and they formed Heaven 17. To replace the members that left, Oakey and Wright got two female students, Susan Ann Sulley and Joanne Catherall to replace them. This did not go down well with their fans. Whilst the album Dare, the first to be released with the new line up, was not stylistically very different from their old work with the exception of the singles Love Action and Open Your Heart, the band had built up a huge fanbase from their earlier line up and the backlash towards the girls was quite aggressive. It should be noted that the single I Don't Depend On You, released in 1979 before their first album under the pseudonym "The Men" sounds exactly like the sort of thing the band would go on to produce in their second line up two years later, which means there is no pleasing some people.
  • When Nightwish lead vocalist, Tarja Turunen, left the group, she was replaced by Anette Olzon. While the band remains very successful, their more vocal fans are insisting that that Anette sucks and that Nightwish should get Tarja back. Other fans believe the band's style started to change into a more euro-pop genre since Century Child. Averted since Olzon left the band and Floor Jansen joined in. Virtually all the fanbase skeaqued in delight at the news.
  • Theatreof Tragedy changed from a pioneering gothic metal band on their first few albums into full-blown Europop with Musique and Assembly. Many fans were not happy, to say the least. Then they got rid of lead singer Liv Kristine, who went on to form her own band, Leaves Eyes, which is actually pretty good.
  • Bone Thugs-n-Harmony: Just about every new release gets complaints.
  • David Bowie frequently had to put up with this trope, since he changed his sound so often over the years, but the loudest cries came when 1983's mainstream-radio friendly Let's Dance arrived.
  • Ayumi Hamasaki: Everything after the 2001 magnum opus 'I am...' gets flak from fans, and even when returning to composers/arrangers she used in the 1998-2001 period (as in the case with 2010 single, MOON), her music is still Ruined FOREVER!!!
  • Electric Light Orchestra: Discovery
  • Jewel, many times, but the biggest one would have to be 0304, which was mainstream electropop. Previously, she garnered success with folk music and her debut Pieces of You. It absolutely ALIENATED fans.
  • Kanye West. 808s and Heartbreak. "Why is Kanye West using auto-tune and making R&B music now?"
  • Linkin Park's two later albums, Minutes to Midnight and A Thousand Suns. Interestingly enough, at least one song on their album seems to directly address this, with it being the most obvious at lines like "...'Cause even a blueprint is a gift and a curse, 'cause once you got a theory of how the thing works, everybody wants the next thing to be just like the first." And telling them to "start catching up motherfucker"
  • Pink Floyd: It's not clear when exactly it happened. Perjaps when Roger Waters' departure, leaving the band to become a more bloated version of Dave Gilmour's solo work.
  • Radiohead's Kid A and Amnesiac got this because they switched to an electronic sound. Nevermind Amnesiac had some Alt Rock songs, Hail to the Thief was mostly tunes that wouldn't be out of place on OK Computer and Kid A and Amnesiac were critically acclaimed. Some vastly prefer their older, guitar-rock based material, and find their post-OK Computer output to be too obtuse and lacking in resonance to find enjoyment in, much to the chagrin of "true fans".
  • The Decemberists: The Crane Wife ("Progressive Rock? Where are the sea shanties?") then again on Hazards of Love ("Power chords? Wait, what?")
  • Tori Amos, especially her recent albums The Beekeeper, American Doll Posse, Abnormally Attracted to Sin and Midwinter Graces. But then came Night of Hunters, which changed her into a full-blown classical music composer and artist.
  • Village People The Renaissance Album
  • Napalm Death: Harmony Corruption onwards, when they started to take on death metal influences (and later industrial and black metal).
  • Some people don't like live recordings, because they feel that it "ruins" the songs that they love so much. On the flip side, though, people who do like live recordings generally don't want them to sound too much like the studio versions.
  • Neil Young: Trans, to the point that Geffen Records sued Neil Young for not sounding like Neil Young.
  • Many Modest Mouse fans complain that this happened to the band upon the release of Good News for People who Like Bad News, perhaps because it featured radio-friendly material like "Float On".
  • Queen's 1979-1982 period comes to mind. Freddie Mercury grew a moustache, the band released a disco single ("Another One Bites The Dust") followed by an even more disco-influenced album (Hot Space), incorporated synthesizers into the band after a "No Synths!" tradition in the studio, and in many ways alienated their hard rock fanbase, especially in America. Queen stopped touring in North America after 1982 as a result, and would not have a major hit in America again until "Bohemian Rhapsody" was rereleased and used in the movie, Wayne's World in 1992 after Freddie's death. It's important to note that the band was never against synthesisers, they just didn't need to use them because they could make their sound effects themselves and wanted to advertise that fact. Brian May said the lack of synths in the 70's had a lot to do with how awful synths sounded at the time. They relaxed the restriction in the 80's because by then synthesizer technology had advanced to where they could actually use them musically instead of just making loud squealy noises. They remained huge in the rest of the world throughout the eighties and up to Freddie's death. The backlash was entirely in the US. "Another One Bites the Dust" is not generally classified as Disco in the rest of the world either.
  • My Chemical Romance when they dropped their post-hardcore vibe and penchant for truly macabre lyrics and favour of a Rock Opera with a more mainstream feel for The Black Parade. The album was a hit, new fans emerged, and the fanbase was divided. Gerard Way's hair is Serious Business. "He cut it/dyed it/bleached it/trimmed it/parted it differently/hasn't dyed his roots, now he SUCKS!"
  • Liz Phair: Pretty much every post-Exile in Guyville album, but 2003's blatantly, unapologetically commercial Liz Phair especially alienated her established fanbase.
  • Metallica's self-titled album was a shift from thrash metal to a style reminiscent of more traditional heavy metal with a bit of hard rock influence. Cue the bitching. Some might say the band started derailing from the thrash metal genre on ...And Justice For All, a relatively over-produced, almost progressive-like album. To this day you'll more than likely run into someone saying "Cliff Burton Died, Now They Suck" just about anywhere you go. Still others say the band began to stray from their thrash metal roots as early as Master of Puppets. Then came Load, Reload and St. Anger, which effectively drowned the band into a Dork Age.
  • Cradle of Filth, when they switched over from black metal to... some other kind of metal.
  • Cryptopsy: The Unspoken King. The less said about that album, the better.
  • Faces of countless fans were red with rage when they heard Morbid Angel's new album Illud Divinum Insanus for the first time. In their eyes, Morbid Angel had gone from being one of the best and most influential Death Metal bands of all time to being a cheap Rob Zombie / Marilyn Manson ripoff.
  • Holy Grail had attracted no small amount of buzz with their debut EP, which created a lot of anticipation for their full-length and had them poised to become a major player in the traditional metal revival scene. Then their full-length hit and instantly attracted a ton of negative attention thanks to decidedly inferior rerecordings of the EP songs, excessive instrumental wank in place of riffs that one could sink their teeth into, and most of all, the fairly frequent presence of poorly-performed harsh vocals that would have been more at home on an All That Remains album. Fans of the EP were NOT happy.
  • The Mountain Goats post-Tallahassee, according to some.
  • Even The Beatles came in for this; their change of style and approach in their later albums (particularly Sgt. Pepper onwards) gradually isolated the fans of their earlier, more traditional 'pop love-ballads' approach. This was pretty Paul McCartney's reaction to the changes Phil Spector make to Let It Be, particularly in the case of "The Long and Winding Road."
  • Avenged Sevenfold's self-titled release has been seen by some as a drastic change in their nature of playing. Some might also consider City Of Evil inferior as well, because it was the first album to not feature M. Shadows' screamish style featured on their previous releases. This often happens whenever the band members change their appearances. The most recent case being with M Shadows having grown out his hair. Largely averted with Zacky Vengeance, though - who is known to change his appearance quite regularly - other then when he decided to remove his snakebite piercings. A good portion of the fanbase is less-than-pleased with Arin Ilejay being their replacement drummer - even though, for obvious reasons, Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan is unable to return to the band.
  • Coldplay when they changed from the more subdued, guitarry music/piano from Parachutes and A Rush of Blood to the Head to the stadium rock/pop ala U2 or Simple Minds in Viva La Vida.
  • Oasis had this from many people on the release of their album 'Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants', despite the demand for change from much of the music press following their previous album Be Here Now, when Oasis did vary their sound the press hounded them for it. Many Oasis fans see 'Giants' (as well as Be Here Now) as misunderstood and unfairly maligned records, especially with tracks such as 'Go Let It Out' and the fan favourite 'Gas Panic!'.
  • When Weezer released Pinkerton, it was blasted by critics and listeners alike for being darker than The Blue Album. Then after shifting back to more upbeat songs, Pinkerton became a fan favorite and the band was criticized for changing their style back.
  • When the survivng members of Sublime found a new singer/frontman/lead guitarist, a certain portion of their fanbase might as well have made this their rallying cry.
  • Judas Priest: Even though Tim Owens moving from tribute band frontman to actual Judas Priest frontman was exciting enough to lead to a film Very Loosely Based on a True Story, he just couldn't replace Rob Halford, so they finally brought him back. Many fans also revolted at the release of the 1986 "synthpop" album Turbo, even though that's a very enjoyable album and - some would argue - one of Priest's best. More importantly, videos based on the Turbo songs got massive airplay on MTV, and Priest (and heavy metal in general) started to attract a lot of female fans, even to the point where there seemed to be as many girls as there were boys at their concerts. It's when Priest tried to make up for this that they arguably started to go off the rails: they worked hard to establish themselves as a purely "thrash" band like Metallica, in the process sacrificing a lot of the eclecticism that had made them popular among all music fans and not just metal ones.
  • When Matt Chalk quit Psycroptic, fans were quite worried, as his very unique and distinctive brand of harsh vocals were one of the band's trademarks. Surprisingly, however, the first album with Jason Pepiatt, his successor, was actually rather well-received, and Pepiatt was noted for doing a surprisingly good job. Then Ob(Servant) was released, and the shit hit the fan. Not only had Jason Pepiatt's vocals completely changed into something more out of the Jamey Jasta playbook, but Joe Haley's trademark winding riffs had been dialed down in favor of dime-a-dozen standard modern death metal riffing that could have come from a thousand other bands. Psycroptic lost a lot of fans with that album. Their album The Inherited Repression, however, has won back some fans with its groovier, more unique sound. That being said, Jason's vocals still sounded Jasta-like.
  • When Iced Earth's Matt Barlow quit so he could focus on his career as a police officer, band leader and guitarist John Schafer opted not to find a similar baritone vocalist and instead hired the tenor Tim "Ripper" Owens, who was already a replacement scrappy for Judas Priest. The fans were not pleased despite Owens being a very skilled vocalist in his own right simply because he wasn't Matt Barlow. Europeans were especially volatile.
  • Miley Cyrus' Can't Be Tamed. Some didn't enjoy her darker image and the overusage of "electro-pop-ish" technology. Her album Bangerz. Even more so as parents to Hannah Montana fans expressed disgust over her present image, and to top it all off, her performance at the 2013 MTV Video Music Awards.
  • Morning Musume: Happens every time a new generation of girls is brought in. Or after every new song released post-"Golden Era".
  • Animal Collective has Merriweather Post Pavilion.
  • MGMT's Congratulations. Well, it's not even necessarily that different from Oracular Spectacular, it just isn't 45 minutes of Electric Feel, which seemed to displease some.
  • Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend" single was decidedly more influenced by pop music than her previous punk rock-y efforts. If one visited the official YouTube upload for said video after its release, you would find nothing but a river of flames, most having to do with how she "sold out". Fans were starting to like her "girly punk" image, she releases the extremely mainstream "What The Hell".
  • Flyleaf's second album. The first was vaguely Christian, if not unnoticeably Christian. The newest one, while not confirmed to be, has a more Christian overtone. There's also the calmer tone of it, fitting the theme of the album in sharp contract to the first album which was full of guitars, drums, and screaming.
  • Taylor Swift is the undisputed Country Music Queen of this trope. Her first album was surprisingly mature in content, especially given her young age. The second, however, switched to a "teen country-pop" format with songs that wouldn't sound out of place on a Miley Cyrus or Jonas Brothers album. Needless to say, this has caused quite the Broken Base to form; one half (mostly the younger half) loves the change in tone. "Soulless Sell-Out" is one of the nicer things they have to say about her, and made worse in that, because she writes most of her own songs, she can't even blame Executive Meddling for it. She has "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together", unapologetically a pop song. Even though it has REALLY done well on the charts being her first song to hit the number 1 spot on the Billboard Hot 100, broken Lady Gaga's record of the most fastest-selling digital single and Ke$ha's record on the Hot Digital Songs chart, it is often criticized.
  • A small, but vocal section of Dream Theater's fanbase believes that nothing the band wrote after "Images and Words" has any merit. Not just inferior, but totally worthless. This is a problem because "Images" was their second album...out of eleven. This is probably because, unlike the Progressive Metal sound that comprises the bulk of their career, their first two albums were more along the lines of heavy Progressive Rock, often having an uplifting Yes-like feel as opposed to the Darker and Edgier Metallica worship of later years. This Tone Shift can be traced to original keyboardist Kevin Moore's disillusionment and departure from the band immediately after Awake's recording—another case of "He Left, Now They Suck." They hit this audience reaction trope much harder with Train of Thought: the increased focus on a darker metal feel alienated fans who preferred the aforementioned Yes-like feel.
  • Fans of King Crimson shouted this when the band went from prog rock to new wave in the early 1980s. In fact, this has been a constant problem the band has faced; for example, during the Islands era, someone wrote "Play the old tunes - the new ones are crap" on the band's tour van.
  • Shiny Toy Guns' New Sound Album Season of Poison.
  • Apoptygma Berzerk, when they genre shifted to emotronic/rocktronica.
  • This happened to Jean Michel Jarre with the release of about half of his albums. The first and hardest time was when he released Magnetic Fields because his early fans complained that it sounded nothing like Oxygène and Equinoxe. Next time was Zoolook which chased away some more early fans with separate tracks with individual titles. For those who got to like Zoolook as much as his earlier albums, Rendez-vous wasn't experimental and spectacular enough anymore. And so forth. He did sort of go back to the roots in the mid-90s, but then came Metamorphoses with none of Jarre's classic sounds, with no part numbers, with separate tracks, and with lyrics. Even die-hard fans became skeptical upon the releases of Sessions 2000 and Geometry of Love and outright disliked Téo & Téa. Some also say his concerts aren't as good anymore as the huge-scale outdoor shows for six-to-seven-digit crowds which he played in the 80s and 90s. Others in turn, mostly the early fans who bought Oxygène as 12" vinyl in 1976 or 1977, feel he shouldn't even have started to play these big shows because they don't do the overall feel of Oxygène and Equinoxe justice.
  • 90s trip-hop group Sneaker Pimps. Any video of theirs on YouTube is invariably seasoned with comments about how much the band sucked after the original vocalist left and comments in response about how this first group of people just can't "understand" the music now. Bonus points if one of the two most "thumbed-up" comments for the video includes some variation of "What does it matter, can't we just all enjoy the music?"
  • They Might Be Giants, known for a decade as a two-man group with simplistic orchestration (including heavy reliance on drum machines and other fake instruments) blossomed into a full band for 1994's "John Henry." Initially, fans boycotted their shows to protest the change. Obviously this had no effect, as TMBG has been a four or five-man group ever since.
  • Some of Bon Jovi's fans have criticized their more recent country-rock albums because they preferred their older heavy-metal sound.
  • The Red Hot Chili Peppers have faced this accusation ever since "Under The Bridge" was recorded. Hiring a Heavy Metal-style player in ex-Janes Addiction guitarist Dave Navarro for their One Hot Minute album didn't help, and abandoning their traditional funk-based Hard Rock sound for a Lighter and Softer prog-oriented Alt-Rock one definitely didn't help, either.
  • Kings Of Leon post Only By The Night (some say post-Because Of The Times), again, bonus points if there is someone "who loves old and new" and "just wants everyone to calm down".
  • Social Distortion has many fans thinking this as of Hard Times and Nrsery Rhymes. Especially with the more bluesy-sounding songs like Can't Take it With You.
  • A song about this: "Van Halen" by Nerf Herder, where the narrator gives up on his favorite band after Sammy Hagar replaced David Lee Roth. This references how a lot of former Van Halen fans very vocally did not like what they referred to as "Van Hagar".
  • The Beach Boys with Pet Sounds. Despite its critical acclaim, a good chunk of the band's main audience, who were mainly exposed to the sun, surf and girls imagery of their earlier work, didn't know what to make of the orchestrations and introspective lyrics when it was first released. By the same token, the concept could just as easily apply to fans who did not take to the Beach Boys' music regardless of quality without Brian Wilson's involvement or his studio experimentations.
  • Muse doesn't suffer too much from its fans, but when the trailer for their upcoming album The Second Law was released, it immediately got this treatment from people who didn't appreciate the Dubstep in its second half.
  • Given that the band spent the first half of their career in a perpetual state of We're Still Relevant, Dammit, Christian rockers Skillet were bound to get this, starting out as a Grunge band with their Self Titled debut, then adopting a Lighter and Softer Electronica sound (Hey You, I Love Your Soul, Invincible), only to then go in a Darker and Edgier Heavy Metal direction (Alien Youth, Collide). Ironically enough, it was after the band found a stable sound with said Collide album that they received the most "It Sucks" furor, due to 1) sacrificing their gospelicious, openly Christian lyrics and image with vague, secular crossover allegories and macho rock star personas, and 2) having their sound and songwriting become increasingly commercialized and formulaic on their follow-ups Comatose and Awake. Both of these, of course, coinciding with their switch from Ardent to Atlantic Records. Selling Out? Executive Meddling? Take your pick.
  • Cobra Starship's Night Shades. It is absolutely more poppy than While the City Sleeps, We Rule the Streets, Viva la Cobra! and Hot Mess.
  • Owl City is getting this from any of his material released after Shooting Star, which have less thought-provoking lyrics that Owl City always had and the fact it is mostly pop instead of his signature electropop. However, they often forget that Adam Young, who is Owl City, has experimented with lots of other genres.
  • No Doubt had Rock Steady, which ditched their previous ska punk sound for a more commercial pop sound. Needless to say, it didn't fare well with fans.
  • Jethro Tull had to put up with it starting with their second album. The band's first album, This Was, was almost entirely blues-rock with a couple tracks being straight-up blues. Stand Up, their second album, had only a couple blues-rock tracks with the rest being closer to the prog-rock sound that most people are familiar with. TCINIS was avoided with Songs from the Wood, which added folk elements to their music. No such luck with A, where not only was the entire band replaced (save frontman Ian Anderson and guitarist Martin Barre), but they changed to an electronic sound. Fans returned to the band with The Broadsword and The Beast (in fact it is the band's highest-grossing album in Germany), but the shit really hit the fan with Under Wraps, which was even more electronic than A and even utilized a drum machine. Tull never fully recovered and has never come close to their success from the 70's.
  • The Strokes latest single One Way Trigger, which has dropped the garage band sound in favour of a driving '80's synthesiser riff and a falsetto vocal is dividing their fanbase like nobody's business.
  • Happens a lot in heavy metal. Music/Metallica is the most famous example, starting with the Black Album. However, it is far more common in the underground genres, especially black metal, which often seems to have a fanbase full of "Stop Having Fun" Guys."
  • Sade's last 2 album are a significant Tone Shift from the previous records. In the beginning they had a sophistipop, quiet storm, contemporary jazz, and adult contemporary soul tone and style with a little bit of Caribbean rhythm thrown in. But their last 2 albums were more of a morose dreary sounding R&B sound which put a few fans off from them who misses the more organic sound they had. Some even complain about the lack of smooth mellow saxophone solos from Mathewman.
  • Referenced and parodied by Spinal Tap. They're also involved in a truly shining example: Spinal Tap is actually composed of actors Christopher Guest, Michael Mc Kean, and Harry Shearer. The movie they appeared in, mocking both the "rockumentary" and metal bands in general, was popular enough (and the actors musically talented enough) that they defictionalized the band and performed live as "Spinal Tap" on tour. So far so good. Guest, McKean and Shearer reunited as folk music group The Folksmen for the movie A Mighty Wind. And, during one tour, as a cute little joke, The Folksmen opened for Spinal Tap. Enough Tap fans in New York didn't get the joke that Guest, McKean and Shearer are possibly the only people ever to have been booed off stage in favor of themselves.
  • Go to any drum & bugle corps discussion group. You'll see endless threads on how the activity has been ruined by everything from unfamiliar music, asymmetrical drills, and sideline percussion (all commonplace since The Eighties) to B-flat bugles (as opposed to the traditional G bugles), amplification, and live narration during performances (more recent developments). As a matter of fact, in 1971, t-shirts were made showing a tombstone engraved with the words "The Day Drum Corps Died" to protest concept shows by the Cavaliers (circus), Madison Scouts ("Alice in Wonderland"), and the Garfield Cadets (The American Revolution).
  • Maroon Five's "Overexposed" album, which is much more pop-oriented than their previous albums.
  • O.A.R. fans yelled this upon the release of Stories of a Stranger. And then it just worsened with All Sides and then King.
  • Finnish metal band Turisas' fourth album, Turisas2013, was met with...mixed reactions. A number of fans have been complaining about how it 'doesn't sound the same', with one guy sending a Tweet to violinist Olli Vänskä about how Turisas are no longer a folk metal band, prompting Vänskä to respond with a fantastically bitchy Tweet of his own: "How can we be folk metal when we weren't folk metal to begin with?"
  • When Cassadee Pope left pop punk band Hey Monday and later went on to do country music after winning on The Voice, many fans were absolutely outraged.
  • In 1999, The Aquabats! abruptly transitioned from the predominant brass-heavy ska sound of their first two albums into a Devo-influenced keyboard-driven rock/New Wave sound. During the early 2000s, the band's trumpet players departed the group, completely removing their once characteristic horn section from their music. This ultimately sharply divided The Aquabats' fanbase; although there are many fans who prefer the band's newer sound, especially following the popularity of The Aquabats! Super Show!, many older fans continue to voice a vehement dislike of their newer synthpop-influenced albums, even going so far as to start petitions urging the band to bring back their horn section.
  • A band identified (however loosely) with Progressive Rock like Yes, Genesis, The Moody Blues, Pink Floyd (at least in the David Gilmour-led period), Emerson, Lake & Palmer and their offshoots or Supertramp, who switches or veers more towards a "pop" style, or a Supergroup of "prog" musicians who choose to create commercial material like Asia or GTR at some point can get bad press (especially in prog-rock circles) simply for adopting a more mainstream style, no matter how good or consistent the band's works are or how much heart, soul or effort they put into it. Evidently the music has no validity unless a little Epic Rocking or Concept Albums are involved (or at least some Mellotron).
  • Then there's The Doors after the death of Jim Morrison. Other Voices was not very successful, and the band itself denies that it and Full Circle even exist.

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