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22nd Jun '16 7:51:24 AM FlakyPorcupine
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* Music/{{Kreator}} got hit with this big time when they started to deviate away from ThrashMetal. Even when they returned to it, a lot of it viewed it as much softer than ''Pleasure to Kill''. ''Phantom Antichrist'', on the other hand, seems to be getting a lot of positive remarks.
21st Jun '16 4:09:33 AM gewunomox
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* The Human League began as a very dark synth band whose songs rarely featured any instrumentation but stark synths and vocals. After the band's second album came out, the band's singer Phil Oakey wanted to play pop music but Martyn Ware did not want to, he fired him kicked him out. Ian Craig Marsh followed him and they formed Heaven 17. To replace the members that left, Oakey and Wright got two female students, Susan Ann Sulley and Joanne Catherall to replace them. This did not go down well with their fans. Whilst the album ''Dare'', the first to be released with the new line up, was not stylistically very different from their old work with the exception of the singles Love Action and Open Your Heart, the band had built up a huge fanbase from their earlier line up and the backlash towards the girls was quite aggressive. It should be noted that the single I Don't Depend On You, released in 1979 before their first album under the pseudonym "The Men" sounds exactly like the sort of thing the band would go on to produce in their second line up two years later, which means there is no pleasing some people. And then there were the accusations of Human League's having "sold out" when they released their mid-'80s R&B-flavored album ''Human'', produced by the American team of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Even though the single "I'm Only Human" achieved major chart success in the U.S., a LOT of Human League fans were dismayed that they seemed to stray so far away from their New Wave base, even though their music was still heavily synthesized pop and not really that different from what their contemporaries were putting out at the time (cf. ABC's singles "Be Near Me" and "When Smokey Sings", the {{Duran Duran}} album ''Notorious'', etc.).

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* The Human League began as a very dark synth band whose songs rarely featured any instrumentation but stark synths and vocals. After the band's second album came out, the band's singer Phil Oakey wanted to play pop music but Martyn Ware did not want to, he fired him kicked him out. Ian Craig Marsh followed him and they formed Heaven 17. To replace the members that left, Oakey and Wright got two female students, Susan Ann Sulley and Joanne Catherall to replace them. This did not go down well with their fans. Whilst the album ''Dare'', the first to be released with the new line up, was not stylistically very different from their old work with the exception of the singles Love Action and Open Your Heart, the band had built up a huge fanbase from their earlier line up and the backlash towards the girls was quite aggressive. It should be noted that the single I Don't Depend On You, released in 1979 before their first album under the pseudonym "The Men" sounds exactly like the sort of thing the band would go on to produce in their second line up two years later, which means there is no pleasing some people. And then there were the accusations of Human League's having "sold out" when they released their mid-'80s R&B-flavored album ''Human'', produced by the American team of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. Even though the single "I'm Only Human" achieved major chart success in the U.S., a LOT of Human League fans were dismayed that they seemed to stray so far away from their New Wave base, even though their music was still heavily synthesized pop and not really that different from what their contemporaries were putting out at the time (cf. ABC's singles "Be Near Me" and "When Smokey Sings", the {{Duran Duran}} Music/DuranDuran album ''Notorious'', etc.).
17th Jun '16 12:53:20 AM gewunomox
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* Music/AngelsAndAirwaves was pretty much doomed to this from the beginning. The band was formed by Blink182 frontman Tom Delonge soon after Blink's breakup, and it was meant to be his next big project. Disgruntled Blink fans, still angry about the beloved band breaking up, formed a pretty sizable {{Hatedom}} once they realized that Music/AngelsAndAirwaves wasn't Blink 182 2.0.

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* Music/AngelsAndAirwaves was pretty much doomed to this from the beginning. The band was formed by Blink182 Music/Blink182 frontman Tom Delonge soon after Blink's breakup, and it was meant to be his next big project. Disgruntled Blink fans, still angry about the beloved band breaking up, formed a pretty sizable {{Hatedom}} once they realized that Music/AngelsAndAirwaves wasn't Blink 182 2.0.
9th Jun '16 3:17:27 AM gewunomox
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* Faces of countless fans were red with rage when they heard Morbid Angel's new album Illud Divinum Insanus for the first time. In their eyes, MorbidAngel had gone from being one of the best and most influential DeathMetal bands of all time to being a cheap Music/RobZombie / Music/MarilynManson ripoff.

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* Faces of countless fans were red with rage when they heard Morbid Angel's Music/MorbidAngel's new album Illud Divinum Insanus for the first time. In their eyes, MorbidAngel Morbid Angel had gone from being one of the best and most influential DeathMetal bands of all time to being a cheap Music/RobZombie / Music/MarilynManson ripoff.
24th May '16 6:02:03 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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* O.A.R. fans dislike the band's releases post-''Stories of a Stranger'' for adopting a mainstream power-pop-rock sound in the vein of Music/TheGooGooDolls or Music/TheScript, never mind that these albums keep hints of the band's signature style of roots-reggaeish-jam-rock and that they were also doing this on fan-favorite ''In Between Now & Then''. It wasn't really until ''The Rockville LP'' that those hints of the band's past were truly stripped away in favor of modern-day folk-pop-rock.

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* O.A.R. fans dislike the band's releases post-''Stories of a Stranger'' for adopting a mainstream power-pop-rock sound in the vein of Music/TheGooGooDolls or Music/TheScript, never mind that these albums keep pop rock sound, although it keeps hints of the band's signature style of roots-reggaeish-jam-rock and that they were also doing this on fan-favorite ''In Between Now & Then''. reggae-jam-rock. It wasn't really until ''The Rockville LP'' that those hints of the band's past were truly stripped away in favor of modern-day folk-pop-rock.away.
23rd May '16 11:09:47 PM HawkbitAlpha
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* Silverchair, like Skillet, also began as a {{Grunge}} band, then, after their first two albums, turned to more baroque and art rock-based music with ''Neon Ballroom''. Not helping, frontman Daniel Johns also started an R&B solo career after the band went on hiatus.
7th May '16 1:16:47 AM Miso
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** That said, a number of older fans still use this as a rally cry whenever the band does something they don't like or changes something even slightly. Even things the Triumvirate cannot control aren't exempt: playing Tom Sawyer a bit slower live because they can't keep up with its original tempo, Neil Peart going from three drum solos to two, and Geddy Lee losing quite a bit of his higher register due to age are only a few of their complaints. Never mind that attempting full-speed Tom Sawyer, three drum solos, or hitting high notes from 40 years ago all cause them physical pain.
24th Apr '16 12:08:32 AM aye_amber
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* Given that the band spent the first half of their career in a perpetual state of WereStillRelevantDammit, {{Christian rock}}ers Music/{{Skillet}} were bound to get this, starting out as a {{Grunge}} band with their {{Self Titled|Album}} debut, then adopting a LighterAndSofter {{Electronica}} sound (''Hey You, I Love Your Soul'', ''Invincible''), only to then go in a DarkerAndEdgier HeavyMetal direction (''Alien Youth'', ''Collide''). Ironically enough, it was after the band found a stable sound with said ''Collide'' album that they received the most "ItSucks" furor, due to 1) sacrificing their gospelicious, openly Christian lyrics and image with vague, secular crossover allegories and macho rock star personas, and 2) having their sound and songwriting become increasingly commercialized and formulaic on their follow-ups ''Comatose'' and ''Awake''. Both of these, of course, coinciding with their switch from Ardent to AtlanticRecords. [[SellOut Selling Out]]? ExecutiveMeddling? Take your pick.

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* Given that the band spent the first half of their career in a perpetual state of WereStillRelevantDammit, {{Christian rock}}ers Music/{{Skillet}} were bound to get this, starting out as a {{Grunge}} band with their {{Self Titled|Album}} debut, then adopting a LighterAndSofter {{Electronica}} [[ElectronicMusic Electronica]] sound (''Hey You, I Love Your Soul'', ''Invincible''), only to then go in a DarkerAndEdgier HeavyMetal direction (''Alien Youth'', ''Collide''). Ironically enough, it was after the band found a stable sound with said ''Collide'' album that they received the most "ItSucks" furor, due to 1) sacrificing their gospelicious, openly Christian lyrics and image with vague, secular crossover allegories and macho rock star personas, and 2) having their sound and songwriting become increasingly commercialized and formulaic on their follow-ups ''Comatose'' and ''Awake''. Both of these, of course, coinciding with their switch from Ardent to AtlanticRecords. [[SellOut Selling Out]]? ExecutiveMeddling? Take your pick.
14th Jan '16 10:02:33 AM JTRager
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* Music/TheOcean had this happen when they released Heliocentric and Anthropocentric, two much lighter progressive metal albums compared to their older music that was far more sludge, hardcore, and doom influenced.
31st Dec '15 7:50:00 PM Prfnoff
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* A band identified (however loosely) with ProgressiveRock like Music/{{Yes}}, Music/{{Genesis}}, Music/TheMoodyBlues, Music/PinkFloyd (at least in the David Gilmour-led period), EmersonLakeAndPalmer and their offshoots or Music/{{Supertramp}}, who switches or veers more towards a "pop" style, or a {{Supergroup}} of "prog" musicians who choose to create commercial material like Music/{{Asia}} or GTR at some point can get bad press (especially in prog-rock circles) simply for adopting a more mainstream style, no matter how good or consistent the band's works are or how much heart, soul or effort they put into it. Evidently the music has no validity unless a little EpicRocking or [[ConceptAlbum Concept Albums]] are involved (or at least some Mellotron).

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* A band identified (however loosely) with ProgressiveRock like Music/{{Yes}}, Music/{{Genesis}}, Music/TheMoodyBlues, Music/PinkFloyd (at least in the David Gilmour-led period), EmersonLakeAndPalmer Music/EmersonLakeAndPalmer and their offshoots or Music/{{Supertramp}}, who switches or veers more towards a "pop" style, or a {{Supergroup}} of "prog" musicians who choose to create commercial material like Music/{{Asia}} or GTR at some point can get bad press (especially in prog-rock circles) simply for adopting a more mainstream style, no matter how good or consistent the band's works are or how much heart, soul or effort they put into it. Evidently the music has no validity unless a little EpicRocking or [[ConceptAlbum Concept Albums]] are involved (or at least some Mellotron).



* Cat Stevens followed up four albums of folk-rock and pop-rock with the classic rock influenced ''Foreigner'', an album [[NewSoundAlbum vastly different from the others in sound]] and omitting producer Paul Samwell-Smith, whom Stevens replaced, and Alun Davies, his backup guitarist. Critics and listeners were not pleased, even though it peaked at #3 on the ''Billboard'' Top 200, and his style came back with ''Buddha and the Chocolate Box'', which brought back both Davies and Samwell-Smith, the latter assisting Stevens in that album's production, and most of his fanbase. Not many of the fans stayed, however, for the synth-pop-based ''Numbers''. He managed to regain the fanbase again with ''Izitso'', an album that, while it peaked at #7 and therefore lower than ''Foreigner'', was quite successful in its own right, but ''Back to Earth'' brought the end of his career because of this (although why he quit the rock scene was coupled more with his conversion to Islam).

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* Cat Stevens Music/CatStevens followed up four albums of folk-rock and pop-rock with the classic rock influenced ''Foreigner'', an album [[NewSoundAlbum vastly different from the others in sound]] and omitting producer Paul Samwell-Smith, whom Stevens replaced, and Alun Davies, his backup guitarist. Critics and listeners were not pleased, even though it peaked at #3 on the ''Billboard'' Top 200, and his style came back with ''Buddha and the Chocolate Box'', which brought back both Davies and Samwell-Smith, the latter assisting Stevens in that album's production, and most of his fanbase. Not many of the fans stayed, however, for the synth-pop-based ''Numbers''. He managed to regain the fanbase again with ''Izitso'', an album that, while it peaked at #7 and therefore lower than ''Foreigner'', was quite successful in its own right, but ''Back to Earth'' brought the end of his career because of this (although why he quit the rock scene was coupled more with his conversion to Islam).
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