Even Nerds Have Standards
OK, now you've crossed over into the realm of supernerds, whereby even regular nerds steal your lunch money and throw rocks at you.This is the notion that Nerd interests can be tiered, and that what's on the lower tiers can make other nerds glad they aren't that nerdy. Sometimes expressed in the form of "You're the kind of nerd that other nerds would beat up and steal your lunch money". Often when Nerds Love Tough Schoolwork, the regular nerds will mock those nerds. This can also stem from the idea that Nerds Are Virgins doesn't apply to moderate or light nerds. The more nerdy you are, the more You Need to Get Laid. In Real Life, this can lead to Broken Bases accusing the other side of being more nerdy, but we don't need to note that here. Besides, articulation of such arguments tends to be nerdier than either side. A Sub-Trope of Everyone Has Standards. Compare with Acceptable Hobby Targets, Hypocritical Fandom, Boomerang Bigot, Stop Being Stereotypical.
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Film - Animated
- In Shrek the Third, even the school nerds pick on class loser Arthur.
Film - Live-Action
- Roger Ebert described the title character of Napoleon Dynamite as "the kind of nerd other nerds avoid."
- Welcome To The Dollhouse: Dawn "Weiner Dog" Weiner sees some kids beat up some nerdy kid. She goes over to him, asking if he's okay. His response: "Get away from me, Weiner Dog!"
- In Ted, even the kid getting beat up tells John to get lost.
- When Douglas Adams revealed that the question which produced the Ultimate Answer (42) was What do you get if you multiply six by nine?, somebody pointed out that the math actually did add up... if you use base 13. Adams responded, "I may be a sad individual, but I don't make jokes in base 13."
- Stanley Howler from the Discworld book Going Postal is so obsessed with his pin collection, even the other pin collectors in Ankh-Morpork think he's "a bit weird about pins". Then Moist von Lipwig invents the postage stamp, and Stanley proceeds to obsess over those, inventing stamp collecting (and becoming incredibly dismissive about people who are "still" collecting pins).
- In the Johnny Maxwell Trilogy Johnny and his friends are pals because they don't fit into any of the school cliques, even the uncool ones. Wobbler in particular is described as "He wanted to be a nerd, but they wouldn't let him join", and Johnny reckons trainspotters are cooler than Yo-less.
Live Action TV
- Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf is practically an Extraverted Nerd except for the fact that he's in his mid-20s/early 30s, but is the first member of the team to throw out insults comparing his crew members negatively to various nerds. Even getting his negativity drained by an Emohawk and turning him into Ace Rimmer doesn't stop him from proclaiming Dwayne Dibbley (Cat with all his "Coolness" drained out of him) to be "so geeky he couldn't even get into a science fiction convention".
- Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
- When Buffy fails to get on the cheerleading squad early in Season 1, her mother suggests that she join the yearbook staff. Buffy responds, "Have you seen the people that work on the yearbook? Nerds pick on them."
- Xander's interactions with Andrew Wells.
- Some of the Krelboyne kids in Malcolm in the Middle.
Dabney: I know you think I'm a mama's boy.Malcolm: No, Dabney, the mama's boys are getting together and laughing at you. With their mothers!
- From Two of a Kind:
Mary Kate: Dad, you know those kids who blow their nose and then spend just a little too much time looking at it in the tissue?Kevin: Yeah...Mary Kate: Well, even THEY won't talk to Ethan!
- The Big Bang Theory: When Sheldon and his arch-nemesis have to settle a dispute with a basketball match, since sports are the one thing that neither of them have an overwhelming advantage in. Their performance is so pathetic that even their nerdy friends are disgusted.
Leonard: You remember all those horrible things the jocks used to do to us in highschool? ... I get it.Howard: (sighs, nodding)
- Cisco Ramon, the Gadgeteer Genius from The Flash (2014) had no friends in high school as he was apparently such a nerd that 'even the nerds hated [him]'. It's no wonder that he was so happy to get a job working for Harrison Wells at STAR Labs, since he was finally in an environment where nerdiness and genius was actually celebrated.
- In the "Invertebrates" episode of QI, this was the reaction to the teams learning about the Worm-Charming Festival (which failed to charm any worms):
Alan Davies: At least when you go trainspotting there are trains!Johnny Vegas: That's the best thing - The trainspotters are sitting on a hill going "Losers! Get a life!"
- DM of the Rings had a roleplaying specific version in strip #10.
Even more reviled than a typical roleplayer is a roleplayer who insists on roleplaying. When the dorks need to feel superior, this is the guy they denounce as a dork. Honestly. The only person worse than him is the DM himself.
- In this Ctrl+Alt+Del strip, Ethan said that Lucas had "crossed over into the realm of supernerds, whereby even regular nerds steal your lunch money and throw rocks at you" over his excitement on having discovered the A Song of Ice and Fire CCG.note
- The hierarchy is referenced in this page of Weregeek.
- Despite this one instance though the comic in general averts this showing all forms of Geek as people out to have harmless fun (who also may or may not be monsters of some kind).
- Dork Tower has a running joke about furries being the absolute bottom rung of the gaming community.
Ken: The geeks beat you up in school when the jocks were finished with you, didn't they...
- And then there's...
Matt: The math club developed a special 'take a number' system just for me!
- In one strip, Matt imagines strangling and screaming at an overexcited roleplayer who can't stop telling strangers everything about his character, because it makes normal people think all roleplayers are freaks like him.
- A variation in Mac Hall here. It claims when nerds arrive at a con, each one finds someone even worse than themselves in order to feel better about themselves.
- In Furthia High, Bruce calls Kale and Campy nerds for chatting online while reciting poetry, while talking about how his LARPing is much cooler than what they'll be doing. This is intended as Hypocritical Humor.
- Penny Arcade: Gabe, one of the original Two Gamers on a Couch, is not happy about his son LARPing.
- In Berserk Abridged, Guts, who is a Zack Cosplayer, thinks LARPing is too nerdy for him.
- A common joke in SF Debris reviews.
- The Nostalgia Chick, who portrays herself as an obsessively geeky shut-in, delights in mocking squealing fangirls and people who write bad fanfiction.
- Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation describes EVE Online players as "the nerds who are to nerds what nerds are to normal people", with an appropriate series of illustrations.
- Another time he mentioned he wasn't as into a franchise as others and said, "This is where the big nerds get to pick on me" with an illustration of a hulking figure with big coke-bottle glasses and nerdy incisors picking him up.
- The "Geek Hierarchy" chart by Lore Sjöberg, originally published at the Brunching Shuttlecocks humour site.
- commodoreHUSTLE includes this delightful exchange:
Graham: They're LARPers. It's like what Jer does with the dice and the bits of paper, except that the people Jer hangs out with look down on these guys.
- The Cracked series After Hours is entirely about four geeks who sit around a diner discussing pop culture as Serious Business. Nevertheless one of them, Daniel O'Brien, is even geekier than the others and tends to get a lot of looks of mixed confusion/scorn/pity when he says something particularly nerdy. It's Self-Deprecation, of course, Dan is the show's writer.
- Potter Puppet Pals puts it pretty bluntly.
Ron: Even I look down on you, Neville. Me.
- The Angry Video Game Nerd thinks this way of sports nerds, as revealed in the Atari Sports episode.
- And even more so towards the titular character of the game Lester The Unlikely.
- In Doppelgänger, nerds form an entire clique. Even they consider Victor too nerdy to join them.
The nerds won't even tolerate me!Ironic, yes, but still it really hurts.
- Seanbaby once posted an old Nintendo Power letter on his website, in which a group of college students discussed how they spent Spring Break playing Gameboy... and the editor's response was "You know, Gameboys also work outside." Seanbaby couldn't let the chance pass:
"When a guy whose hobbies include 'play-by-post games' looks up from his Dungeonmaster's Guide and tells you you're a geek, you know you're finished. You might as well knock your own lunch tray out of your hands and save us all the time."
- The Simpsons visit Ikea:
Lisa: (picks up a pencil holder) Ooh, I want to get the krünk.
Marge: Mmmm, you don't want something that overshadows the pencils. (holds up another pencil caddy) How about this pöpli?
Lisa: Mom, no! Everyone at school picks on the pöpli kids - even I do. (under breath) Just hate them so much.
Nelson: Stamp collection? Ha ha!Lisa: The few. The proud. The geeky.
- And when Bart accidentally revealed that he has a stamp collection, even Lisa laughed at him.
- Family Guy: Meg, the outcast and loser member of the Griffin family, refuses to date Neil Goldman, an equally geeky outcast of a classmate of Meg's whom Meg finds annoying and a clueless loser. Apparently, the butt-ugly Meg — forever wanting to have sex with desirable football hunks and other desirable young men — doesn't believe in "beggars can't be choosers."
- Not everyone blames Meg for this, since her "butt-ugliness" is largely an Informed Deformity, unlike Neil's.
- In a case of this with some uncomfortable implications, the entire family and the show treats Meg as if she is some kind of unlovable, disgusting loser, even when all of them are terribly damaged people who engage in regular, horribly abusive Comedic Sociopathy. For example, Meg is a bit overweight. Peter is morbidly obese. Guess which gets far uglier comments about their weight. While its fans enjoy it thanks to the Rule of Funny, it makes many detractors uncomfortable with Meg and the show's relationship with her.
- On Phineas and Ferb, even Baljeet considers Irving to be a nerd.
- In The Fairly Oddparents younger Cosmo, who is apparently the biggest loser in his school, gets beat up by every clique group, even the nerds.
- And Luther.
- South Park
- In the episode "Return of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers", the kids are playing like they are characters in The Lord of the Rings, but Cartman then makes fun of kids who are playing like they are in Harry Potter.
- There are a few episodes in which the kids are playing out a fantasy and look down on the Star Trek kids.
- In the end of the Danny Phantom episode "Lucky in Love", the nerd calls Danny, Tucker, and Sam "losers".
- In the early season, Tucker himself hates being called a "nerd" and "Techno-Geek". In one episode, he has gotten sick of it, but by the end he started to like being a "Techno-Geek".
- In the Rocko's Modern Life episode "Canned", Rocko passes two comic book geeks, one of which is gushing about how he thinks the "elf wenches" in his favorite fantasy comic are way hotter than real women. The other geek responds "Wow... you're an idiot."
- Total Drama inverts this—according to his online bio, the reason Cody thinks of himself as cool is because he hangs out with a bunch of friends even geekier than he is.
- In The Looney Tunes Show, there's a flashback to everyone's high school days, and we find out that even Pete Puma and Marvin Martian, established losers in this particular continuity, refused to sit with Daffy.
- This is a common theme in Codename: Kids Next Door where nerds have superhuman powers that set them apart from other kids. (Like turning into zombies if you steal from them.) In any case, nerds are quick to compete with other nerds over their talents, like in one scene where a nerd calls another one dumb when he doesn't know that he can't catch cooties from his sister.
- In the The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy episode "Wish Bones", when Billy's dad Harold finds the wishing skull he wishes he could live his high school years again because he believed he was one of the popular kids, he approaches the jocks and the cheerleaders who beat him up, he then tries the bullies with the same result, then he attempts to befriend some nerds but even they beat him up and stuff him into the garbage can just like everyone else.
- In Static Shock, Virgil remembers villain Speedwarp as the nerd who all the other nerds at science camp would pick on.