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openWhat's with the Ambiguous Start of Darkness?
Somebody made a TLP called Ambiguous Start of Darkness. I wanted to suggest an example, so I googled "tv tropes ambiguous start of darkness" and got a page called Sandbox.Ambiguous Start Of Darkness but no sign of the TLP. What's with that?
Edited by UnicorndanceopenScapegoat Creator question
For Scapegoat Creator, does it have to explain how the bashing of them is, at least partially, unfair or unfounded? It sounds like it's just complaining otherwise.
openQuestionable editor
OnBuckHill is making pages for works that don't exist, the most recent example being Rabbitopia.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/el.php?findfor=OnBuckHill
Edited by lalalei2001openA More In-Depth Guide to Creating Redirects?
Is there a more in-depth guide to creating redirects for work pages than the tutorial written on Creating New Redirects? I'm going to sound a bit dense here, but the technical language on the page is giving me trouble. (Specifically: I am trying to create a redirect from the published English-language title of a manga to the work's page, which was set up under the transliteration of the manga's Japanese title.)
openRebeccaSpark
Would a mod check Rebecca Spark? They're a new troper with no edits to their name, except a stub TLP draft for a work. Said TLP draft has 3 hats within a day.
open Looking out windows
Is there a trope for a character looking out a window. Usually to emphasise their sadness or loneliness?
openThe Island Of Doctor Moreau RP Web Original
there is this dead roleplaying group on Gaia online called The Island Of Doctor Moreau (Io DM) that ran from August 2005 to June 2007.
The main idea behind the setting is a modern version of the classic H.G. Wells' story, though instead of animals being surgically altered into humans, people (usually unwilling victims) are brought or tricked onto the island and genetically altered through a series of injections over several months to become animal/human hybrids. The Dr. Moreau of the island is one Dr. Nicholas Moreau, a descendent of the Dr. Moreau of literary fame. And the only difference between the setting for the story and the real world, other than the existence of the island and the "science" on it, is that the classic book was never written. The island is fairly-sized but small enough to not be on most notations. It is about twenty miles across at the widest points. Most of it is covered by deep jungle, though areas have been clear-cut for the village (the collection of duplexes the subjects live in) and the labs (which are surrounded by a high-voltage electric fence. The labs are built into the side of a dormant volcano that is in the center of the island. Sandy beaches are on the west side of the island, a rockier ledge on the east. There is a network of caves within the island itself. There is also a freshwater river system through the island and a large lake near the village.
On the island itself, the whole system is highly monitored - think Big Brother. There are hidden cameras in all of the subjects' duplexes and all over the island. Each subject is inserted with a microchip in the back of their necks that tracks their location on the island and allows them to be "buzzed" unconscious in the event of a bad fight or in order to administer them their follow up injections. Even the staff of the island is not allowed communication off the island, and a couple of staff members have even been turned into subjects due to misbehavior. Thus far, there have been no successful escape attempts.
But, all in all, the subjects are usually treated well, despite the kidnapping and being turned into an animal-creature. They are each assigned a duplex and have free reign over the island (with the exception of the labs, which are sectioned off by an electric fence). There is a cafeteria, entertainment room with movies and video games, sunny beaches, and deep tropical jungles. However, more than one lab tech has a cruel streak (it takes a certain kind of person to be picked to work for the labs) and use the subjects for some less than ethical psychological tests.
I thought you could make a media page of it
link to the roleplay site https://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/breedable-changing-pets/iodm-farewell-22537-changes-22561/t.9279157/ I set up a media page for you https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Roleplay/TheIslandOfDoctorMoreauRP
openAwesome page?
Ok this is something that really f*cking irks me; WHY is there no "Awesome" category listed in the Create New option for editing media pages when there IS an "Awesome" category for almost every media page?!
openNamespace
Just for Fun./The Archive Of Bellicose Lexicon Entities has a period in the namespace, but it automatically redirects to JustForFun.The Archive Of Bellicose Lexicon Entities and can't be edited. Is this a glitch? People Letting All Trope Titles Exist Relishably redirects to this page.
Edited by costanton11openForgot to Add Media Sources
For three of my video examples, I forgot to add the media source. Is there a way to fix that without having to take it down and re-upload?
openProblematic Troper
There's that title again...
This time, it's Owah. I first noticed them when they created this glorious page and its equally amazing character page, and though they've edited like crazy today, they've not responded to any PM's I've sent about issues. They seem to have a ZCE problem specifically, taking the Talking Tom And Friends pages into account and these other edits. Granted, a good lot of their edits are pretty decent, but the pattern concerns me, as does their apparent disregard for my P Ms— it's possible they did read them, since they did fix one problem I had and put the page on an index, but they never fixed the ZCE problem, and instead just made the character's page.
openPotential edit war Anime
Troper AbsoluteSword reverted one of the changes I made to Laid-Back Camp. While this could be sorted in discussions or private message, I noticed that said troper has a history of edit warring and grammatical issues, hence my wondering if any additional action might be required.
openRelated to Locked Page
I know that locked pages (those which can't be edited) are usually as such for a good reason, but is it possible to mention said work in a trope's page (trope displayed in said work of course) safely? I thought I should have asked before doing anything, just in case.
openTeen Titans Go Vs Teen Titans
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/sdcc-world-premiere-teen-titans-go-vs-teen-titans
Hello there. I was wondering if a page for "Teen Titans Go Vs Teen Titans" could be made. There's a trailer and a confirmed date.
Edited by jessicadicicco610openPage cut a little hastily. Web Original
The page WebAnimation.Other Friendship Is Magic Fan Vids has recently been cut with the edit reason "Per thread, low quality and has several ZCEs."
However, said thread barely discuss the page, and Fighteer's one answer wasn't leaning toward a cut.
I remember reading this page, and I don't think it was so bad that it needed to be cut outright, unlike a lot of stubs. Maybe it needed a clean-up, but nothing more.
Also, the cut was done halfway, since all the subpages remain.
What do you think? Should it be restored?
open Which is It? Videogame
I have a question: Is it possible for a boss to be That One Boss and an Anti-Climax Boss at the same time?
The subject is both the aforementioned examples concerning the dual boss battle against Klaus and Crymaria in chapter 15 of Valkyria Chronicles 4. The YMMV page lists them as That One Boss, yet the Anti Climax Boss example (which I added) includes a link to YT video proving they can both be taken out laughably easy in only 1-turn.
So which trope actually applies?
openBorderline Edit War on Andrzej Sapkowski Literature
The trope section of Creator.Andrzej Sapkowski is in large parts dedicated to bashing the author for various grievances that seem mostly to revolve around the author's negative commentary resp. legal battles regarding various adaptations of his works, and the author supposedly generally being an avaricious hypocrite (source: TV Tropes).
While the entire page could certainly need a big clean-up, an almost-Edit War has lately ignited over the following example of Disowned Adaptation:
- The Hexer movie. Sapkowski euphemistically expressed his negative opinion about the film: "I can answer only with a single word, an obscene, albeit a short one". What he carefully "forgets" to mention nowadays is the big pile of money he so eagerly took for selling the rights for adaptation and then started slandering the production the moment he realized there will be no second tranche of money. While the film is a disaster, Sapkowski is doing his best over the years to pretend he didn't help make it in such form in the first place.
Recently troper Revolutionary_Jack removed the last sentence of the entry, with the, in my opinion very reasonable, edit reason that
The deletion was restored (with a slight expansion regarding the author's "messy and utterly pointless copyright battle") by Dratewka. I myself got then involved by cutting everything after Sapkowski's statement on the movie, on the grounds of it not actually belonging there in the first place.
Dratewka has again reverted the example, the only change being a further expansion in form of a lengthy note, the point of which seems to be the argument that the author is to be blamed for the movie being bad. Edit reason:
Courtesy link to the edit history.
I'd be glad for other tropers or a mod to weigh in.
Edited by LordGroopenUnreleased Work Speculation Cleanup
Hi, guys. There seems to be a problem on the Unreleased Work Speculation Cleanup thread. A troper called Spurious Vulture has expressed concerns about the recent approach regarding the addition of tropes for future works.
Can someone please look into this or is it unnecessary at this point? Thanks.
Edited by gjjones
Remade for the Export: This is the reason why the 2020 remake exists, as Square Enix wants to introduce the game to western players as a completely new title.
This isnt true! The translation of the original SNES game is not only already out but the remake had nothing to do with western Players at all.
EDIT:So its more clear. I'm sorry that I didnt make clear that I was fact checking by doing this post. But the Trails of Mana is not only the Remake, its the name of the original SNES game as it was released on the Mana Collection on Nintendo Switch. Of what I am certain, 255% sure without a doubt is that its disqualified from being Remade for the Export.
Edited by AegisP