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#1: Feb 25th 2024 at 6:53:21 AM

This page was cut by the 5P circa 2012 for being "Ecchi with pedophilia". We do not cut Ecchi series solely because they're Ecchi series, and unless "Lolis with huge tits" counts as pedophilia, and unless there are naked lolis in there that I missed, there's no pedopandering present here. I therefore propose the page's restoration - whether it's just the manga, just the OVAs, or both.

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#2: Feb 25th 2024 at 2:27:16 PM

Wikipedia page on the manga is here

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#3: Feb 26th 2024 at 10:32:10 AM

IIRC one of the major points against it was that there's a character who does look very young but is one of the most well-endowed in the show. Bennett the Sage (as his lech character Suave) reviewed the anime a few years ago in lieu of anyone watching the actual show.

Edited by Willbyr on Feb 26th 2024 at 12:32:37 PM

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#4: Feb 26th 2024 at 11:13:39 AM

The anime is just a 2-episode OVA, Eiken is about 140 chapters long.

It's a gag manga with heartwarming tone about a loser boy accidentally joining an all-female club where everyone is wacky (Chinese assassin? Personal mecha robot?) and he has a "bad luck" of running into Gag Boobs (it's the image at World of Buxom) or underwear like every two minutes.

Everyone seems to be about 14-16. The only member of the club who does look like a child, Kyoko, interesting is the only one to not have perverted slapstick on her introduction, and the Wikia doesn't have images of it, so the series is worth analyzing in full.

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#5: Feb 26th 2024 at 12:05:54 PM

[up][up]oh yeah, Komoe— iirc she was in 6th grade but had the largest rack out of the female cast. there's at least one typically "loli" shaped character too but iirc she doesn't get sexualized... or much screentime at all. iunno abt the manga though.

i Do remember watching the OVA, and i distinctly remember a lot of sexual innuendo, mostly in pseudo-Erotic Eating (Kirika (purple-haired girl) is always shown eating some kind of phallic-shaped snack (though it's less 'actually' eating and more sucking), one of the 'challenges' in the 2nd half of the show involves chocolate bananas, which get eaten in really lurid ways)... among other things.

there may be some things i'm misremembering but tbh I don't wanna watch this again (those are hours and braincells i'm not getting back...) im gonna abstain for now but i hope this provides some input.

Edited by worldwidewoomy on Feb 26th 2024 at 2:12:11 PM

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#6: Feb 28th 2024 at 3:59:06 AM

    De-merits (I skip a lot minor ones) 
Chapter 1:
  • Densuke crashes into Chiharu's chest, hands upfront
  • Densuke crashes into Chiharu's chest + pantyshot
  • Chiharu's pantyshot
  • Komoe trying to talk to Densuke with her triangular breasts but runs away
  • Continuous pantyshot with Kirika
  • Densuke crashes into Chiharu's chest, hands upfront

Vol 1:

  • Densuke accidentally finds Chiharu undressing in the classroom
  • Chiharu in rather tight sport uniform
  • Densuke gets beat up by bouncing breasts
  • Densuke mistakes Komoe for a waterbed
  • Pantyshots
  • Densuke having a wild Imagine Shot with Lin and Chiharu
  • Kirika and Densuke crawl through vent and see students below changing uniform
  • Chiharu in a swimsuit, which is somehow less detailed than her regular underwear

Vol 2:

Vol 3:

  • Teacher repeatedly falling on Densuke, then Teacher breaks the public shower, Densuke comes in to check and ends up in a very suggestive position
  • Kyoko develops a skirt-flipping robot, then her own skirt gets stolen
  • Lin's upskirt
  • Lin's upskirt
  • Teacher in maid costume shaking up some yogurt soda and the bottle breaks
  • Kirika in a bath

Vol 4:

  • Teacher trying to cook, the stove just explodes, and Densuke has to avoid looking at her while she's naked. And she falls on top of him.
  • Chiharu swims in a pool and looses her swimsuit
  • Kyoko gets soaked in cooking wine and trips, the Teacher slaps herself in the rear as punishment. Densuke seems to got drunk and sees the remaining scenes more suggestive (as suggestive?) than they appear.
  • Yuriko's underwear
  • Densuke slipping a washtub on Komoe
  • Densuke imagines his Christmas present as Chiharu being naked, but it ends up hand-knitted mittens.
  • Teacher tries to do festival games and gets her kimono ruined every time. Densuke tries to grab Chiharu's hand, but grabs her panties.
  • Densuke has a nightmare of Chiharu naked. Then another nightmare of Teacher "checking him down there".

Vol 5:

  • Snow games with Densuke having wild imagination whenever someone hugs him
  • Densuke falls into a pit trap, then naked Teacher falls also
  • Lin and Densuke get on a deserted island, and they naked hug to stay warm in rather suggestive manner
  • Hot Sptings Episode with groping
  • Densuke getting sandwitched between Yuriko and Chiharu
  • Densuke helps Kirika shopping by checking her get dressed
  • Densuke tries part-time job at tutoring center and his colleague's Dangerously Short Skirt may as well not be there.

Vol 6:

  • Chiharu's handing breasts.
  • Suggestive-looking picnic eating
  • Chiharu at water park
  • Miharu's buttshot
  • Yuriko interrogates Densuke and somehow loses panties in the process
  • Theme park date, with bouncing
  • PE exam
  • Konoha (12 yo 7th grader) comes to deliver Densuke food and gets into same inappropriate gags as the other cast.
  • Densuke visits Miharu's house, and she progressively loses clothes by accident
  • Densuke, Miharu and Chiharu going to public bath

Vol 7:

  • Densuke and Miharu sleeping in the same room, then she rolls over, and it becomes an uncomfortable sleep in the same bed
  • Pantyshots
  • Komoe and Yuriko visiting sick Densuke, spill rice porridge soup literally everyone and lick it up
  • Lin's upskirts
  • Teacher and Densuke going to the bath together, and she falls on him
  • Teacher and Densuke sleeping in the same room and her kimono gets untied

Vol 8:

  • Beach Episode
  • Densuke and Chiharu doing a shooting game at the festival really close together
  • Mikito coming to Densuke's house in rather open summer dress, then undresses because it's hot
  • Teacher nearly drowns at pool and Densuke pulls her away, and she loses swimsuit in the process
  • Yuriko teases (actually molesting) Densuke on a train. Then Densuke gets shoved into Chiharu because the train gets too cramped.
  • New semester year, so everyone gets into their signature gags as a recap
  • Evil student council disassemble the club, literally, while Teacher and Komoe are changing
  • Densuke takes bandage-wrapped Hikaru to the infirmary and inspects her

Vol 9:

  • Densuke gets kidnapped into BDSM setup by an actress
  • An agent tries to seduce Densuke
  • Wrestling tournament
  • Densuke at public bath
  • Densuke helps to pick cloths

Vol 10:

  • Hikaru getting drenched
  • Kyoko, Komoe, Yuriko and Teacher getting drunk
  • Miharu picks toys from the top shelves, exposed, then falls and exposed. A few times.
  • Hot springs
  • Densuke and Chiharu sharing a room, and a bed
  • Yuriko confronts Densuke at hot springs and doesn't care if they're naked
  • Kirika tries to keep Densuke warm, naked

Vol 11:

  • Date with Miharu, with her panties being visible most of the time
  • Densuke prevents Yuriko from jumping off a bridge. Turns out she was experimenting in getting his attention (dafaq?) and sits on his face
  • Mikito trying to seduce Densuke
  • Sensual picnic eating and Mikito tries that thing of pouring sake on her laps
  • Lin and Densuke get kidnapped by actual terrorists, and he sees her rear the entire time they go through the vent. (Lin dodging bullets and crushing a tank like cardboard makes me question what even is this setting)
  • Everyone does breast-measuring, Kyoko gets jealous and tries to grow hers with a vacuum machine
  • Chiharu gets spilled by a bucket

Vol 12:

  • Hikaru and Yuriko doing sports at the forest wrong
  • Hikaru gets spilled by a bucket
  • Miharu's panties
  • Date with Hikaru with Densuke's imagination not being okay. Hikaru gets bitten by a snake in the butt and Densuke sucks the poison out.
  • Chou gets spilled by a bucket, so she and Densuke take a bath together
  • Wrestling match

Vol 13:

  • Teacher takes Densuke to a restaurant, trips twice, gets drunk and takes him to a love hotel
  • Drunk Teacher (she's like 32 year old virgin??) actually going with "let's climb the adulthood together". Densuke even fights back and almost fails, but she falls asleep from alcohol
  • Beach Episode. Group hug because the sand is hot, and Kirika makes Densuke apply sunscreen.
  • Densuke accompanies a foreigner with poor clothing sense
  • Densuke and Chiharu picks up shells on a beach with him staring at her behind
  • Densuke and Yuriko go through a horror tunnel and Yuriko decides to be naked as a tease since he can't see
  • Tsubaki (2nd year middle school) asks Densuke to be a reference for love confession and tries different things, including undressing
  • Hikaru gets stuck in a fire hydrant hose
  • Kyoko invents a tube for firefighters to get out of buildings, and the club experiments. Each of them loses more clothes than the last.

Vol 14:

  • Densuke meets his favorite gravure idol and accidentally gropes her several times. They fall into a river, and she turns out to be Chiharu's mom
  • Densuke and Kirika fall into ocean and take a shower together
  • Yuriko tries a maid uniform for a festival and it doesn't fit
  • Upskirts
  • Upskirts
  • Miharu takes shower at Densuke's place because she got disowned by her father and loses her towel
  • Miharu stays overnight and Densuke stares at wrong places

Vol 15:

  • Komoe gets stuck in a jump rope
  • Densuke helps another foreigner, and she behaves at a hotel like she's home
  • Christmas with short Santa costumes
  • Densuke's wild Imagine Spot when asked about Chiharu's "beautiful side"
  • Densuke tutors Hikaru, and she slips onto him several times
  • Tsubaki takes Densuke on a pretend date with more accidental fanservice
  • Chou invites Densuke home and accidentally sits on his face

The remaining volumes aren't translated, but I don't expect major differenes

It was run in Weekly Shounen Champion (Beastars, Baki the Grappler)

It's a school Slice of Life comedy with leaning to romance and occasional drama, with a formula of the club trying to do normal activities, Densuke getting to learn about designated not-harem member's personal issues and getting into hijinks.

The club is mostly in the first year (~15), but Komoe is apparently 11.

Student's having breasts times larger than their head size is weird, but whatever. It seems the author can't come up with anything funnier than Comedic Underwear Exposure and Male Gaze, though it can go for heartwarming when it really wants to.

It seems to have some sort of standard that the older someone is, the more suggestive the jokes are (the Teacher and Densuke keeps getting into Not What It Looks Like). Nudity isn't explicit, but the older cast runs into definite sexual humor.

Based on:

  • The MC says he's an Chivalrous Pervert, but he's still a chronic groper and either imagines or tries to see girls naked, and typically does, even if accidentally.
  • The cast may as well not wear clothes, as shots regularly focus on underwear or often on the lack of it, and skirts just don't follow gravity.
  • Even the younger cast gets into inappropriate underwear gags
I'm quite hesitant to get this restored.

Have not seen the OVA yet.

Edited by Amonimus on Feb 28th 2024 at 3:00:19 PM

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#7: Mar 3rd 2024 at 8:42:12 PM

I'd say most of this is not what we're looking for. Panty Shot, Boob-Based Gag, and Male Gaze aren't this forum's problem...

...but Komoe and Kyoko getting used for that is. If the joke was just that Komoe was a big-breasted elementary schooler I could see it pass (Sailor Moon had a nine-year-old with "talent" comparable to Makoto), but an elementary schooler being actively used for fanservice is a lot sketchier, and then there's Kyoko on top of that, and it hits too many red flags for me.

Edited by Ramidel on Mar 3rd 2024 at 7:46:05 AM

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#8: Mar 3rd 2024 at 8:53:14 PM

Yeah, I gotta concur with the previous decision to cut for using underage kids for sexual humor and fanservice.

Edited by StarSword on Mar 3rd 2024 at 11:53:42 AM

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#9: Mar 4th 2024 at 12:18:38 AM

alright, i bit the bullet and (re)watched the OVA... yall owe me a pint of ben & jerry's

     notes so far (this ended up longer than i thought) 

Part 1:

  • even the background girls have jiggle physics. it's a minor demerit, but... hoo boy.
  • gratuitous ass-shot of Chiharu's Kuma print panties, and before we learn her actual name no less. and of course Densuke lands both palms flat on her tiddies...
  • the first we see of Kirika is her titties bouncing in the wind as she flies in riding on Kyoko's mech. Basically everyone's gazongas move like they're inflated with helium, but it's best demonstrated in this shot, where Kirika's standing still and somehow they're still moving
  • Kirika makes a big deal out of said groping, congratulating him on it along with "having no redeemable face or body!" Chiharu's in this club too apparently and she's the most important member! and then she (Kirika) sits on his head to force him to sign the club contract.
  • the opening title has. a Lot of gratuitous panty shots from most of the main female class, including Komoe without her tights on in one shot. also a minor demerit kind of, but still something to note.
  • blonde China-girl (Miss Grace, apparently) gets an ass shot before we see her face. and she and Densuke are in the middle of a sultry-sounding "fortune-telling" ritual. we hear the dialogue before we see the actual ritual, and it's full of suggestive lines, like Densuke pleading that it's his first time (even though he invited her). the ritual itself involves them both on all fours, with Densuke crawling towards her with a rose in his mouth (???). he drops the rose before he gets close to her, which apparently leads to an "ominous" fortune (mainly that "an opposing character will appear and take someone important from you")
    • "you're always embarrassed by my fortune telling!" gee i wonder why
  • Densuke's friends (Those Two Guys for all intents and purposes) invite him to peek into the infirmary window while the girls are getting their physicals done. it's made known that Chiharu's assets get bigger and bigger every physical.
  • Kirika introduces herself by dropping tit-first onto Densuke's head
  • Komoe reaching for a strainer, cue upskirt angles complete with panties colored to be visible under her tights.
  • Another upskirt while they (Densuke, the (unnamed) teacher, and Komoe) reach for this strainer, this time from the teacher. also Kirika walks by twice with phallic-looking snacks in her mouth, a banana and a sausage respectively)
  • while they're eating cold noodles, Kirika grills him about seeing Chiharu's bare tiddies
  • every time you hear Komoe say she's doing her best, she's doing something stupid that makes her chest and skirt bounce like crazy. this time she's intensely grating ginger
  • Teacher slips on a banana peel; cue ass shot of her as she falls on top of Komoe, Densuke groping Komoe while he tries to catch them both, slow motion upskirt and underboob shot of both of them as they all fall, all in slow-mo with soft classical music. the resulting wipeout has both girls' underwear exposed and covered in suggestively spilled noodles. yeah...
    • worth noting that 1.) Kirika is laying open-legged in this scene but is censored by a conveniently-placed cup, implying she's going commando, and 2.) Komoe is also given small little nipple indents in her clothes.
  • Chiharu's been avoiding Densuke since the physical exam day. he goes to apologize while she's out chilling watermelons in the fountain (which is what Kirika told him, turns out she told Chiharu that Densuke would be waiting for her there). they play in the fountain for a bit (complete with Chiharu upskirt shot in the water's reflection, the camera even pans down so we can see the "goods" again during a standstill moment)
  • Chiharu's sister Yuriko (vaguely "high school" age) introduces herself by pussy-attacking Densuke in the mouth. Detailed panty shot of her on top of him, and then she teases him about how "i bet my butt feels better than my sister's!" and about the physical peeping. Yuriko then unhooks her sister's bra somehow and then squeezes her in front of him to mess with him even more (in case you're wondering, Yuriko is an A-cup compared to her sister's F-cups.)
  • Densuke slips on a conveniently placed banana peel in front of the girls. somehow Chiharu's panties are down, meaning he gets a FULL FRONTAL VIEW OF THE GOODS (censored obviously). unsurprisingly she runs off crying and Yuriko muses that she maybe went too far (you think?)
  • Kirika appears from the shadows, sucking on a banana as usual. Densuke sulks in the fountain and wipes his face off with something... you'll never guess what it is. go on guess!note  and then Kirika does the tit drop thing again while suggesting Densuke enter the games to buy Chiharu a present with the prize money! what games? The 58th Zashono Academy Ultra Game, of course!
  • two more relatively minor demerits:
    • one eyecatch card is of Chiharu sitting with her skirt completely up and her ass facing the world. thankfully she has on underwear.
    • Each of the hosts wear a stupid table skirt and has her name printed on the back of her panties. Yes, they flaunt this to the camera
  • Kirika with the 2-for-1 special (using Densuke's head as a breast rest again and nibbling on another phallic-looking snack. this time it's a chocolate banana)
  • Stage one: Bungee jumping from a ridiculous height, demonstrated with a nameless student flailing around in the air 'completely' exposed. why is the cord tied between her crotch? hell, it looks like it's directly attached to her panties
  • Kirika with the 3-for-1 special this time (sausage on a stick, booby headrest, AND sitting on Densuke's head again)
  • Komoe's bungee-jumping for the Eiken team. i will leave it at that. (she lands directly on her boobs, that had to hurt.)
  • Kirika with another chocolate banana snack, this time the tip is dipped so that it kind of looks like the head of a dick. as usual she spends more time throating the thing then actually eating it. then she suddenly gets *real* clingy with Densuke (who is somehow still standing despite being at least a head shorter than her), then Yuriko pussy-attacks him AGAIN as soon as he's freed, and this time she's going commando!
  • Stage two: the infamous yogurt slide, where the team *must* stay connected as they reach the bottom of the slide. his team consists of Chiharu, himself, Yuriko, and the green-haired (and honestly useless) teacher
  • Chiharu is freaked out by heights, and clings onto Densuke. cue Imagine Spot of a naked Chiharu bound with measuring tape, and Densuke wondering if they got bigger. Yuriko gets jealous, apparently, and grabs his hands to get him to feel her up. she even makes him reach down there and threatens to "make him mine!"
  • the yogurt slide scene itself is... hoo boy. Teacher's tights start sliding off, Yuriko is somehow ass-up facing Densuke, somehow he's got one hand up her shirt and one foot between Chiharu's chest, Yuriko's somehow got his fingers in her mouth (and is enjoying it), his toes end up snapping Chiharu's bra and end up in her mouth (which she does not enjoy), complete with one nipple covered by a stray yogurt splash... they win, but at what cost (Chiharu runs off crying again) and of course the yogurt looks like she's covered in a certain male bodily fluid.
  • mysterious American dude comes to comfort Chiharu...
  • credits art basically confirms that Kirika is going commando 24/7. Bare ass jumpscare

Part 2:

  • we open on a banana peel. i wonder if it'll come up again
  • the "recap" consists of mainly the sexy scenes, including the whole yogurt race thing.
  • Kirika does the booby head thing again, and Komoe's bouncing around fiddling with a slippery, long snack. Komoe trips on that banana peel from earlier and somehow lands tit-slapping Densuke (yeah idk either)
  • Stage three: the school swimwear stage. Yes that is its name, yes everyone is in (girls') school swimsuits, including Densuke
  • The hosts with their stupid table skirts and ass prints return, this challenge involves pairs of two wading across the swimming pool while keeping a ball up with only their face or body
  • Kyoko is also in a school swimsuit, thankfully we barely see anything of her (and instead Komoe somehow bouncing obnoxiously hard from just kicking the pool water)
  • More of Kirika and her Erotic Eating (literally just sucking the banana)
  • Mysterious American dude is actually the returning champion of this event, complete with a team of clumsy looking girls in swimsuits and a maid's apron.
  • Densuke is teamed with Yuriko this time, even does the arm between breasts thing with him...
  • Mysterious American dude is named Shima, he participates in these games every year and came back from studying abroad just to compete (Yuriko doesn't recognize him), also it's revealed that Shima's partner is (gasp!) Chiharu!
  • Shima forcefully kisses Chiharu, with only the ball separating their lips. Yuriko decides to copy them and the race begins. Shima decides to "pick up the pace" by getting closer and more forward with Chiharu, this ends up moving their ball between their cleavage. Meanwhile Yuriko spends less time getting to the finish with the ball and more time planting her face between Densuke's legs
  • Semifinals has everyone change into proper bathing suits (mostly bikinis), cue more of Komoe being Komoe... oh hi, Kirika
  • This time the challenge is an obstacle race, and the first obstacle is... chocolate bananas that the racers must carry in their mouth while they swim to the next goal. one of Shima's maids is first to the bananas, tries to eat it (in a rather lewd way)... but can't, and comments that she can "normally handle this size..." Miss Grace shows her how it's done and effortlessly throats the whole thing. "The Eiken club seems to be used to this!"
  • Densuke somehow ends up wiping himself with Chiharu's panties again
  • Second obstacle involves inflating a balloon, Komoe's at the very back... and then she "does her best" again and rapidly inflates the thing, Eiken club is leading again "with 111cm Boobie Power!" someone get this girl a breast reduction
  • Third obstacle is a simple pool float race... only this time the pool is full of eels. Teacher is the victim this time, and now they're in last again. This time she tags Kyoko
  • Meanwhile Densuke is sulking the entire event and Yuriko goes to cheer him up. Somehow she ends up out of her swimsuit and pressing the girls on Densuke again, pressing the top of her swimsuit into Densuke's hands along with her sister's underwear... and she's still naked, and the soft classical music returns again. She asks him to make her his one and only, which of course sets him off. And meanwhile Kyoko blasts past the finish line in her mech, having regained the lead
  • Somehow Densuke slipping on a peel again doesn't end in fanservice, and him doubting that he can win the finals seems to be the "ominous" event that Grace foretold
  • Final stage: the infamous yogurt slide, now with coconut chocolate! this time they're teams of two (one male, one female) on banana boats, and it's Densuke up against Shima! Chiharu does the booby press again and this time Densuke fantasizes that they grew between the second stage.
  • Somehow he ends up on top of Chiharu, hands on titty and all... somehow Chiharu ends up on top of him, ass in face and all... and her bikini top falls off, all while Shima's trying to sabotage him. i will be frank, the "coconut chocolate pudding" looks like shit bukkake.
  • Chiharu lets go and ends up flying off, Densuke grabs both boobs to try and save her... and in the end, everyone is eliminated and the club gets hot springs tickets as an award for effort. Of course our two lovebirds end up in a bath together (they swear they read the sign), and Chiharu decides that being close to Densuke is the best birthday present at all. Somehow they don't do anything lewd, and Yuriko laments that she wants in on that action
  • Kyoko is mostly spared from the creepshots (even though she's also shown in the hotsprings in just a towel), roll credits.

final verdict: Old 5P was right I want this gone

ETA: as an aside, i glanced the wikia since someone else linked it, and apparently the author went and confirmed that one of Chiharu's many siblings (the five year old, manga only) will grow up to look just like her, badonkers and all. i feel slimy just reading that.

Edited by worldwidewoomy on Mar 4th 2024 at 4:52:49 AM

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#10: Mar 4th 2024 at 12:52:36 AM

Meaning, it's like if that copypasta "transfer student shows up one day with even bigger bonkhonagahoogs, humungous hungolomghnonoloughongous!" was real and was the entire premise. At least the manga has an overaching story, but you have to puzzle it from the heystack of sexual humor, sometimes involving minors.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 4th 2024 at 12:44:51 PM

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#11: Mar 4th 2024 at 1:26:15 AM

Judging by the fact that this seems to be 95% fanservice (which is the very vague impression I've always had of the OVA), yeah, I say keep cut.

Even ignoring the age of the characters (since that's a separate issue), most of it seems to be boob jokes and panty shots and all kinds of fanservice in between with varying levels of consent. It comes across as very NSFW and a case of a borderline hentai series in my opinion.

Fun fact: The manga ran in a shounen magazine, meaning it was aimed at teenage boys. Do with that information what you will.

Also, looking at the Japanese Wiki, here's some brief clarification on a couple of the ages:

  • Komoe is apparently in elementary/primary school, in her 6th year, so she'd be 11~12.
  • Kyouko and Yuriko are both in their 2nd year of middle school, so they'd be around 14.
  • Konoha is in her 1st year of middle school, so she'd be 12~13.

Edited by Zazie122 on Mar 4th 2024 at 10:27:16 PM

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#12: Mar 4th 2024 at 1:45:54 AM

...What was the overarching story again? And I swear I know a certain type of teenagers that are interested in reading that book since you mentioned that it was in a shounen magazine.

Edited by Siegfried1337 on Mar 4th 2024 at 3:46:15 AM

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#13: Mar 4th 2024 at 1:56:54 AM

The harem type plot of the club each making romance progress with MC, as if he'd pick anyone but the main girl.

There are also mini-arcs like club getting disbanned for being unruly and they had to bring it back, or several chapters spent at mountain resort.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 4th 2024 at 12:57:18 PM

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#14: Mar 4th 2024 at 3:51:31 AM

...Damn. Now I consider myself fortunate I never watched or read this perverted, depraved piece of garbage. lol

Absolutely keep cut.

Edited by JHD0919 on Mar 4th 2024 at 7:01:43 AM

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#16: Mar 4th 2024 at 7:58:00 AM

While I'm not against keeping the cut, I'm going to protest Zazie122's reasoning "even ignoring the age of the characters." We don't cut something just for being endless fanservice, NSFW, or "borderline hentai." The reason we're keeping it cut is because they're including elementary and middle schoolers in the sex comedy.

Just saying this in case this discussion is referenced in the future.

Edited by Ramidel on Mar 4th 2024 at 6:58:57 AM

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#17: Mar 4th 2024 at 8:00:21 AM

That's right, "almost entirely fetishistic" and "pedo-pandering" are the red flags as far as the content policy is concerned, we should be focusing if these are crossed or not.

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#18: Mar 4th 2024 at 10:31:46 AM

I am 100% in favor of this thing remaining gone.

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#19: Mar 4th 2024 at 11:51:59 AM

Yeah, cut it but only because of the middle-schoolers. Being pure skeevy fanservice is not against our rules

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#22: Mar 4th 2024 at 1:24:38 PM

Yikes. Keep it cut then.

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Zazie122 from New Zealand Since: Jul, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#23: Mar 4th 2024 at 9:55:01 PM

~@Ramidel: The only reason I said that is because to me, the issue of the content itself and the issue of underage characters being involved are, in my mind, separate. But I realise I worded it incorrectly for the sake of this argument. I did mean "it's still an issue, but even if someone were to focus solely on the content" — not that underage characters in sexual situations aren't an issue.

Either way, it's my mistake for misunderstanding things (in regards to the content policy), so I do apologise for that.

Edited by Zazie122 on Mar 5th 2024 at 6:56:35 AM

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#24: Mar 5th 2024 at 12:21:55 AM

[up]No, you worded it correctly, and the issues of "underage content" and "pornographic content" are separate. But skeevy fanservice does not make a work pornographic.

Zazie122 from New Zealand Since: Jul, 2017 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#25: Mar 5th 2024 at 12:28:10 AM

Indeed. I think I'm just being way too safe with my judgements on content, actually. So as weird as it sounds, thank you for pointing it out to me. Sometimes I'm... not that good at knowing where lines are drawn when it comes to what's allowed with pornography VS NSFW/ecchi content.

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