Fact Checking Thread

It's certainly not the first time I've seen someone claiming a fairly well-liked TV-related thing was the subject of a Conspiracy Theory (see also my comments elsewhere about Harvest of Shame). I'll work on it.

Edit: After some thought, I'm wondering if it's still an example of the trope without the conspiratorial bit about the newspapers. Should I just cut it?

Edited by lee4hmz on Jul 11th 2022 at 2:36:16 PM

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Does anyone here have easy access to The Rise of Skywalker? We've heard that the tweet◊ that started the "live slug reaction" meme was a lie, but we never bothered watching that movie so we can't confirm one way or the other.

(In this case all it would mean is changing "pointed out" to "claimed" in the memes entry, since it still became a meme even if the tweet was a lie.)

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Some of the subpages for Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers (2022) like the trivia, YMMV, and headscratchers are mentioning the so-called "Pluto cut" where Pluto was apparently the villain, and treating it like a fact, even though AFAIK there's no evidence of that cut being real outside of a 4chan comment. (None of the filmmakers have ever mentioned it; in fact, there was an interview where the director mentioned the villain being Charlie Brown originally.) Should we remove all the references to it?

I'd say yes, as right now it's unproven.

Trivia.Total Drama seems to have a lot of unsourced information and I've seen fans offsite raise an eyebrow at it, mostly a lot of the rumored cut plot lines that don't seem to have a concrete source, like Noah originally being Heather's sidekick. Do any other TD fans know where such claims originated?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

It's not true, a guy hugs Klaud two shots before the lesbian kiss. I changed the example on the memes page.

Edited by rjd1922 on Jul 17th 2022 at 12:58:27 PM

Keet cleanup

I posted about this earlier, but got no response, so I'll ask again. Master of Disguise has this entry:

• The main character in Mind of the Master is one of these. You get to pick one of three disguises at the beginning and each of them affects gameplay differently.

I could not find evidence of the game's existence.

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Anyone know ComicBook.Monicas Gang?

https://tvtropes.org/Br/TurmaDaMonica says that Bug-a-Booo, a.k.a Penadinho, references a Film.Ghost, but would they really be referencing Film.Ghost 1990?

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I do, loved them as a kid! If it's the Penadinho comic I'm thinking of, it would indeed be the 1990 film. A big part of Monica's Gang humor is references and parodies of classics, I remember a Bug a Boo comic in particular that had a Whole-Plot Reference to Ghost called "Ghóusti".

Edited by good-morning on Jul 23rd 2022 at 1:31:29 PM

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- Well, it seems like the example's actually about him complaining about being compared to that ghost, but since the reference was made, I changed, and therefore cleaned, the wick in that way.

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If anyone wants to find that exact comic, apparently the English page's example went on

TheyChangedItNowItSucks.Comic Books:

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I'll admit I don't remember that particular comic though. I'm also don't know if the mention of the spin-off manga is valid, as as far as I know it was mostly pretty successful, but that's more relative.

Edited by good-morning on Jul 24th 2022 at 5:32:04 AM

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The main page for The Grapes Of Wrath says twice that characters mispronounce Rosasharn as Rose of Sharon. However, my own interpretation, the character page, and some quick googling all say that the opposite is the case (Her actual name is Rose of Sharon, which people pronounce as Rosasharn.)

Can anyone confirm the correct reading?

Got a copy of the text. Removing link because it might not be in the public domain? Narration calls her "Rose of Sharon", so I assume that's the correct name?

Edited by Malady on Jul 24th 2022 at 6:47:46 AM

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From YMMV.Predator

"Parody Displacement: The design of the titular alien is based on Adjudant Booba from Dengeki Sentai Changeman, yet odds are that if you were to show someone a picture of the latter, they'd assume it's either based on or ripping off the former - even Super Sentai itself seems to agree with this, since it's homaged the Predator several times."

I see people making the comparison but wasn't able to find definitive evidence.

I also don't see the similarity, personally but that's beside the point.

Edited by Hellboy33 on Jul 26th 2022 at 8:18:50 AM

Can this be removed from Accidentally-Correct Writing?

In the manual of Wario Ware, Inc.: Mega Microgame$! , Wario eats a "healthy" breakfast of tons of bacon washed down with bacon grease, However, if the movie Fat Head is correct, then fats, especially animal fats, provide needed fuel instead of making you fat . Indeed, Tom Naughton ate a high-fat diet which involved plenty of bacon and other foods cooked in fat, the result being that he could program into the night without getting tired. There is no excuse for Wario's "healthy" cup of sugar that has only a dash of coffee, though.

It's true that fats aren't inherently unhealthy, but this seems to be deliberately ignoring the "in moderation" factor. Pointedly, Naughton's "high fat" diet, as depicted in the film, still amounted to less than 2,000 calories a day.

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Yeah, that's not "accidentally correct", it's just incorrect.

I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.

to cutting that entry.

Yeah, cut that.

This is on Lip Lock:

• Besides the normal edits to the dialog necessary for timing, the North American dub of Ranma ½ used a video editing system (WordFit)^note Which used in nearly every other dub by The Ocean Group, as well as a few cartoons like Stone Protectors to tweak the mouth-flaps.

While I can't find many reliable sources about WordFit, everywhere else says it was a system that edited the audio to match the lip flaps, not the other way around.

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EDIT: No idea why I included the Fist of the North Star example here, as it has nothing to do with my question.

Edited by rjd1922 on Aug 13th 2022 at 1:36:58 PM

Keet cleanup

I was considering adding an Artistic License – Geography (or physics, I don’t know what this goes into) entry for The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker since the game takes place on the mountaintops of Hyrule after it was flooded yet neither subzero temperatures nor a lack oxygen seem to be an issue. I’m not terribly savvy on this sort of thing and want to make sure I’m correct so if the entire world was flooded up to the mountaintops would you still have to deal with the issues that come with extremely high altitudes?

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?

Actually, flooding the entire place would cause the atmosphere to be displaced upwards and with it both temperature and air pressure zones. That depends on whether Hyrule is a planet or a singular place on a much larger planet, though, and whether it was actually "flooded" or instead sank below the waves. I don't know Zelda sufficiently to tell which is the case, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

We'd say that the way it happens relies too much on magic (the Great Sea is a layer of water above a layer of air that just barely preserves the ruins of Hyrule) for real-world geography or physics to come into it at all.

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It's just the Golden Goddesses did it and thus disqualifies for Artistic License – Geography.

Kirby is awesome.

On Trenchcoat Brigade, I just now noticed a claim that the angel Castiel from Supernatural was originally meant to be John Constantine - a completely baffling assertion that also completely flies in the face of everything I've seen elsewhere about how the character was planned to have only a short role before being killed off before fans latched onto him. Is there, like, any evidence for this at all?

Edited by nrjxll on Aug 12th 2022 at 9:42:41 AM

Cass obviously wasn't meant to literally be Constantine despite what the example says, but it's possible that he was meant to be a character in the vein of Constantine, which is what Trenchcoat Brigade describes.

Edited by bwburke94 on Aug 12th 2022 at 11:34:45 AM

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